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This thread is for any factual claim on the site that seems questionable and lacks a proper citation, either due to not having one at all or citing a source that seems unreliable. These could be claims about behind the scenes goings on from Trivia pages, or about historical or scientific facts on Useful Notes pages. If you find a claim that you consider questionable, take it here and we'll try to find a source for it.

Edited by TheMountainKing on Sep 11th 2020 at 3:44:00 PM

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#826: Dec 7th 2023 at 1:45:14 PM

wrong thread

Edited by SoyValdo7 on Dec 7th 2023 at 4:03:47 AM

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#827: Dec 8th 2023 at 9:38:12 AM

El Chavo Animado has two examples contradicting eachother.

The Spared by the Adaptation example says that one episode had its ending altered from the original live-action series so that Quico's cat doesn't die and just ends up on a wheelchair. But earlier on the same page, under Bowdlerise, it's said that the "cat on a wheelchair" scene was an alternative ending made exclusively for the show's English dub and the original Mexican version had the dead cat. Now, which one is the true version?

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#828: Dec 9th 2023 at 4:47:02 AM

[up] Given that those examples have a much bigger problem between them, it turns out the best option is to cut them both.

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#829: Dec 12th 2023 at 3:25:11 PM

Creator.Rough Draft Studios says that the Japanese studio Orange is a division/label of the company. However, I can't find any sources for this claim, including on both studios' websites.

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#830: Dec 15th 2023 at 1:04:19 PM

This tidbit on Misaimed Marketing:

  • In the early 2000s, someone at American Greetings got the wise idea of spinning off Grumpy Bear from the Care Bears into his own line of clothes. While the idea itself isn't wrong given Grumpy's popularity with the Care Bears fandom, the execution was off by several miles- American Greetings was for some reason convinced that Grumpy Bear's fans are goths and all the merchandise released under the line were tacky goth colored dark red and navy blue on black with gothic font peppered everywhere. This went as far as the downloadable wallpapers on the American Greetings website. And to keep the merch from falling into the hands of regular fans and to prevent Moral Guardians from coming after them, the spinoff was never advertised widely- which led to the misconception that the then-holder of the rights to the franchise, Play Along Toys, did not want two blue-colored bears and cancelled Grumpy in favor of Bedtime Bear. Thankfully, this was corrected by the mid-2000s, when the Care Bears: Adventures in Care-a-Lot reboot came around.

Is this even true? I tried looking up stuff about the supposed "Care Bears Grumpy goth spinoff line" and "care bears grumpy goth clothing line" and found absolutely nothing. Moreover, this is not mentioned on the Care Bears fandom wiki or on the Wikipedia page for the series.

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#831: Dec 15th 2023 at 1:16:53 PM

From Creator.Stephen King (emphasis added) —

King's entire family has a literary streak, with his older son Joe Hill having authored several well-received works of horror and suspense, including a few collaborations with his father. His other son Owen is primarily a writer of literary short stories, although he too collaborated with Stephen to write Sleeping Beauties. His wife Tabitha King is an established author in her own right, whose novels couple elegant, poetic prose with unflinchingly realistic subject matter. Even Naomi King, a Unitarian minister who largely avoids the family's literary limelight, has an award-winning sermon to their credit.

Correct pronoun? I did a quick internet search and didn't see any mention, including on what I think is Naomi's YouTube channel. (I suppose it's also possible that the sentence is attributing Naomi's writing to the family's credit, I guess, though that isn't something I've ever seen before and sounds somewhat diminishing.)

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#832: Dec 15th 2023 at 2:13:45 PM

[up][up]Not just that, but Misaimed Marketing is itself in TRS and is being reworked into Misaimed Merchandising and so may not fit in the new trope.

Edited by Nen_desharu on Dec 15th 2023 at 5:14:00 AM

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#833: Dec 15th 2023 at 2:48:19 PM

[up][up]To quote a Twitter feed identified as belonging to Naomi King:

Rev. Naomi King (they/them)
@revnaomi
Unitarian Universalist teacher, justice-seeker, wheelchair user, yoga teacher, Queer and Genderqueer, and lover of life!


Naomi King is also specifically noted on The Other Wiki (via their father's page), and on their own page on the Stephen King Wiki, as being a Unitarian Universalist minister, and identifies their partner as a woman. These details match the given identity of the Twitter feed user. On top of that, I can't find anything indicating this Twitter user isn't King's child, so for now I'd stick with "they" as their preferred pronoun.

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#835: Dec 18th 2023 at 2:01:08 PM

From Anime.Kaginado:

  • Not-So-Imaginary Friend: Nishizono's younger sister Midori is depicted as an Imaginary Friend. In episode 7, when asked where Midori is, Nishizono claims that Midori has been standing next to her the entire time. Since the others don't see her, they are creeped out by this. Despite this, Riki actually counts Midori as one of the ten girls he had sex with. She actually makes her first appearance in episode 22, but none of the characters are shown to react to her unlike with all the other candidates.

Or maybe it's Nishizono pretending to be Midori? I watched the whole show in a marathon earlier today, and I think Nishizono faking it could help explain why she didn't get any sort of reaction.

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#836: Dec 18th 2023 at 5:35:29 PM

Edit: I was wrong on this. Please ignore.

Edited by Ayumi-chan on Mar 3rd 2024 at 2:49:37 AM

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#838: Dec 29th 2023 at 10:58:35 AM

On WarpThatAesop.Western Animation, an example about Popeye has a nattery subbullet claiming that spinach being Popeye's Power-Up Food is actually a stealth reference to a bunch of old sayings and beliefs around drugs ("Spinach" being used as a slang term to talk about marijuana, sailors being associated to hemp, and urban legends about weed turning people in superhuman berserkers).

I can't find any proof on this stuff.

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#839: Dec 30th 2023 at 4:14:10 AM

On Vaporware.Video Games:

  • The Ubisoft title Skull & Bones was initially announced back in 2013, as an expansion pack for Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag. Since then, it's undergone several iterations, and a decade later, they still plan on releasing it ... sometime.

...Well, according to my Xbox Series S, Skull and Bones is available for pre-order now and will release on February 13th, 2024. Cut or reword?

Edited by Riolugirl on Dec 30th 2023 at 12:15:19 PM

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#840: Dec 30th 2023 at 4:18:38 AM

[up]Reword now, and then cut on release.

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#841: Dec 30th 2023 at 4:31:52 AM

[up]Problem is, there aren't any examples on the page with release dates, and the same can be said for Saved from Development Hell. I would've just moved it there otherwise.

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#842: Dec 30th 2023 at 9:58:09 AM

This is on AscendedMeme.Video Games (bolded part by me):

  • In the Sinnoh games, it is very common for players to form a party using their starter, Staraptor, Luxray, Lucario, Togekiss, the evolution for the gift Eevee, and Bibarel. In the animated short Bidoof's Big Stand, at the 4:20 mark it shows that the focus trainer's team uses these exact Pokémon (sans Staraptor and Bibarel is unevolved).

Last time I checked the "meme Sinnoh team" was formed by Infernape, Staraptor, Luxray, Lucario, Garchomp and Floatzel. (not to mention that Togekiss and Eevee would be available only in Platinum and the remakes...)

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#843: Dec 30th 2023 at 10:11:32 AM

I guess it does sort of depend on who you ask. I've seen both team variations floating around.

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#844: Dec 30th 2023 at 1:42:42 PM

[up](x6) Also find this doubtful. After a cursory look using Google Books, I found a few books on marijuana that claim that "spinach" is/was slang for marijuana and that Popeye's spinach is a stealth marijuana reference, but they never had good sources to back those claims up. One of the more interesting (but still unsourced) claims is that Harry J. Anslinger, head of the U.S. Treasury Department's Federal Bureau of Narcotics thought Popeye eating spinach was actually a reference to marijuana use (which the author calls a "delusion") and that prompted Julia Lee And Her Boyfriends to make fun of his claims in "The Spinach Song".

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#845: Jan 1st 2024 at 1:43:34 AM

Disregard; I realise now that this may be the wrong thread for what I want to accomplish.

Edited by Riolugirl on Jan 1st 2024 at 11:16:03 AM

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#846: Jan 6th 2024 at 4:29:13 AM

Did Caroline Kepnes' You come out during 2015 or 2014?

Wikipedia says 2014, but other sources say 2015

Should I just change the retronym to the author instead?

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Jan 6th 2024 at 8:31:23 PM

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#847: Jan 6th 2024 at 4:36:33 AM

I see only 2014, not sure what "other sources" say 2015 aside reprints.

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#848: Jan 6th 2024 at 4:40:09 AM

[up] I guess the title and work description on TVT is wrong then. Sigh, move time.

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#849: Jan 6th 2024 at 4:45:40 AM

Though, honestly I'll just move via author's name. Far more people know it by author than publishing year.

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Jan 6th 2024 at 8:45:58 PM

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#850: Jan 10th 2024 at 1:33:16 AM

Found this on Honkai: Star Rail—Jarilo-VI

Is it true that Cheetahs are fragile? Because I know nothing about Cheetahs (besides they are fast) and I want to be sure.

Edited by Ayumi-chan on Jan 10th 2024 at 5:33:59 PM

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