Trope Idea Sounding Board

#8520: That reminds me of another death-related trope idea of mine, Searching Among the Fallen.

Edited by Prfnoff on May 4th 2024 at 1:46:21 AM

After watching The Fall Guy (2024), the Film Within a Film of "Metalstorm" is intentionally absurd but the money and production value is also intended to reflect absurd big budget blockbusters. It's not really Stylistic Suck because that is about imitating an amateurish style, maybe there is a missing companion trope about characters making something that people think will just suck but turns out quite professional and polished, even if ridiculous at its core. Maybe called "Well Made Garbage."

Other examples I can think of is "Philbert" from Bojack Horseman, where what we as the audience see appears nonsensical (a Film Noir with a Private Detective that gradually becomes a race to stop the apocalypse) but apparently turned out better than anyone expected.

Sounds a lot like Rule of Cool.

I wanted to know your opinions on a "Fantasy Horror" concept. As the name implies, it's taking the classic tropes and settings of Fantasy and highlighting their scary aspects. I got the idea for this after feeling we needed a Fantasy RPG/Survival Horror hybrid.

One issue I found by myself is that the two genres are already so closely linked that works that contain Fantasy and Horror in a 50/50 split would probably too rare (for now).
For example, a lot of Fantasy in general has at least one scary moment, even if "scaring the audience" isn't their main purpose. So they might not be counted as Fantasy Horror just because they have one scene that's horror.
Viceversa, a lot (but not all) of Horror also features fantastical or supernatural elements, even if they don't qualify as Fantasy. For example, Dracula is obviously Horror and Urban Fantasy, but is that enough to make it count as Fantasy Horror?

Is there potential to this trope?

Edited by TMH-Sir-Iron-Vomit on May 5th 2024 at 4:51:06 PM

Maybe you're thinking of Dark Fantasy?

Is there an index for bilingualism/multilingualism tropes yet?

Language Tropes has multiple "Bilingual X" tropes.

Would an index dedicated to multilingualism be just Language Tropes but The Same, But Less?

Edited by AquaEclipse on May 7th 2024 at 1:46:18 AM

I don't think so, since most tropes there only involve one language.

After watching The New Batman Adventures E23 "Beware the Creeper", I'm surprised no oner has made "Honey! I'm Home!" into a trope, documenting everytime someone announces their prescence with it.

And no one ever will, due to the No New Stock Phrases policy.

Didn't know about that rule, but I've seen enough LargeHams say it to warrent at least a thought.

Is there a trope for Daddy's Home? I think that would be a pretty common thing to see in movies and TV where the kid or kids all converge to their father when he comes home. That probably fits the rule against stock phrases too though.

As for the one about kids being or acting like adults, I think of another primary example being Peanuts: adults barely being mentioned while reduced just to muffled voices and kids basically being framed as living totally independent lives where adult themes creak into both the humor and the storytelling. That's Peanuts in a nutshell really—no pun intended: an allegory for the absurdities and pitfalls of life in general.

Look at the work page for the latter.

I have an idea for a trope similar to Early-Installment Weirdness, except applied to a creator's repertoire rather than within a specific work.

The trope could be called Formative Forays.

After all, creators often experiment with various genres before finding a genre they excel at.

We have Creator's Oddball, which I think serves the same purpose. It mentions being a creators early work as a common reason.

He Also Did is the more broad version that might cover other examples.

Edited by IronAnimation on May 7th 2024 at 12:49:12 PM

Creator's Oddball is not as specific as Formative Forays.

More specific doesn't mean it's a different thing.

Yeah, refer to The Same, but More Specific

Edited by Informer on May 8th 2024 at 8:50:32 AM

Fair.

Has anyone suggested a trope before to do with how the music in a series or by a certain creator changes as it goes on? I was thinking of calling it Music Evolution or Soundtrack Evolution. Basically Art Evolution but with music. Most examples would be video games, but it can apply to other types of media as well. I would try to make it a new trope on the launch pad, but I've never used it before and I don't have enough examples.

If such a trope does exist or is on the launch pad already, please let me know because I couldn't find it before.

Have failed to find a trope when by magic or skill an object is disassembled into its components.

I haven't seen this around, so curious if it's already a trope and i just couldn't find it but I feel like it deserves it

Artificial Sun - Stars, either small scale or full size, created through artificial means, usually as a display of a civilization's power and (when small sized) often used as power generators

Normally you'd check for that in Trope Finder, but I also didn't see any. Off the top of my head I can only think of Secret Wars (2015) where The Human Torch is suspended around Battleworld by Doom to act as it's sun, but I'm sure there are plenty in sci-fi literature.

Also, unrelated idea: I was looking through This Is Your Index on Drugs and Pharmacology Tropes and I couldn't find anything specifically about a person getting intoxicated off of medicine. I saw several examples of accidentally getting high off of them in Intoxication Ensues, but I feel like this is distinct enough to be it's own example (and would also include intentional examples).

Edited by SparkyYoungUpstart on May 10th 2024 at 9:03:49 AM

[1] You'd probably be able to find lots of examples from games that got a remake or Updated Re Release, like the soundtracks for all the other Persona 3 versions (Portable, FES, and RELOAD) have slightly different soundtracks with RELOAD being exclusively remixes of the original soundtrack if I'm not mistaken.