Never Live It Down Cleanup

• "A Canterlot Wedding" (Season 2 finale):
  • Fans will not let Twilight's friends, her brother Shining Armor, and Celestia calling out and ditching her after the accusation scene, with a throwaway apology from Applejack afterwards. This is despite "Cadance" having an alibi for her suspicious behavior, and Twilight being a jerk about it even before she had a reason to be suspicious, had no proof for her claims, and admitted she was wrongly paranoid. Many exaggerate it as them cutting off ties with Twilight when they were simply leaving her out of the wedding, which would’ve been harmless if not for the unforeseeable Changeling invasion. This also ignores that Shining Armor was implied to be brainwashed by "Cadance", and Twilight's friends not knowing of or seeing what the audience and Twilight's saw, and "Cadance" making offscreen efforts to win Twilight's friends' trust.
• The 2014 Equestria Girls Holiday Special has easily inspired more fan works on it than any other My Little Pony comic book, albeit not for the reasons the creators wanted. Many a fan work has been created about this one issue of the comic, and the characters involved in the story have become indelibly linked to its events in the Equestria Girls fandom.
  • The Human Cutie Mark Crusaders will never live down their cyberbullying of Sunset Shimmer. The comic's resolution was a Once Done, Never Forgotten moment — the Human CMC fully own up to and apologize for creating Anon-A-Miss and framing Sunset for it over what amounts to petty jealousy. It was also mentioned that the CMC could never fully take it back, since they couldn't magically delete everything everyone had posted, and they received six months of detention for it. Meanwhile, the fandom saw the Human CMC as being more Easily Forgiven than their pony selves despite being more antagonistic, despite that detention possibly being the harshest punishment any redeemed villain has received in the franchise. So both the canon and fanon pull this trope; the fandom just double-downs on it by making their punishments in fan fiction even more severe.
  • Some fans won't let the rest of the Rainbooms live down turning on Sunset Shimmer when she was framed for being Anon-A-Miss, even though the Rainbooms did try to defend Sunset before doing so and ultimately hear her out. Many fics, be they Fix Fics or Betrayal Fics, paint the Rainbooms as being awful people for not believing Sunset, despite having good reasons for not trusting Sunset (as some of these fics even point out). There appeared to be solid evidence against her — yes, the impostor account seems obvious to the older half of the fandom, but Sunset's "devious manipulation skills" in the first movie were just as obvious, and was a major source of mockery towards Sunset before she became a beloved Breakout Character.
  • Sunset Shimmer herself has become known quite a bit for this issue, despite being the victim and forgiving the Human CMC at the end of the story. To see some Fix Fics or Betrayal Fics tell it, Sunset will never get over being framed for being Anon-A-Miss by the Human CMC or for her friends betraying her. Even though Sunset truly was innocent in the cyberbullying, her reputation still had a long way to go before she was accepted by the rest of Canterlot High School, and Sunset openly admits she can see why people think it was her. Yet to hear some fanfics tell it, Sunset is incredulous that her friends wouldn't believe her (even though the Rainbooms did defend Sunset at first until evidence pointed towards her), demonizing the Rainbooms while sanctifying Sunset. Some fics even have Sunset be Driven to Suicide by the accusation, in spite of the fact that she ends the comic in a good place with the Rainbooms. Even fan works that don't revolve around the Anon-A-Miss story have been known to bring it up.

While genres of fanworks exist about them, we don't see fan character exaggeration (their friends unfairly abandoning them, vilification of the human CMC) outside that niche, as fans ignore these moments and portray them normally otherwise. They moved past this starting the next FIM Season and EG movie.

• Some fans will never forget Twilight going behind her friends' backs and attempting to steal Queen Novo's Pearl of Transformation. Never mind the whole plot of the movie up to then was to drive her to that Moment of Weakness, or that Novo and her entire race have forgiven Twilight and view her as a hero for the ultimate outcome of her actions next they meet.
• Some people are never going to let poor Twilight live down her scolding of the Cutie Mark Crusaders in "Marks for Effort" after Cozy Glow intentionally failed her test. Never mind that she amended the mistake not long after.

Again, we don't see character exaggeration over it (Twilight regularly betraying friendship or unfairly accusing/punishing others), there isn't even the niche of the prior examples.

• Twilight acting Lawful Stupid and refusing to use her magic to help her friends in an issue dealing with buffalo in the Wild West, despite her never acting this way in the show. Even later comics where she's back to normal, which came off as deliberate attempts to atone, are used as examples of how the creators don't care about consistency.

This is Fanon Discontinuity to the point absolutely no fan content, even accusation for fix fics, incorporate or acknowledge this. It only comes up as mockery or calling out the comics as opposed to treating it as a "real" aspect of Twilight's character. This seems the exact opposite of NLID.

• Strawberry Sunrise's very first appearance in the show was to proudly express her dislike of apples in front of Applejack. She even insults Applejack when she demands an apology from Strawberry Sunrise.
  "Oh, I'm sorry... that you actually bite into those tasteless, mealyworm-filled things. Ohhh."
  • What's worse, the whole point to her character was to establish that "having an 'honest opinion' doesn't mean you can go around expressing it and not risk upsetting others", something that Applejack was guilty of in the first place, and which she admitted. Yet fans like to depict her as a rude jerk overall who gets 'deserved' punishments from the morally correct Applejack.

Can't be a fan exaggeration as it's the ONLY time she had characterization in the show, being a generic background character with no notable personalty otherwise.

Rogue and Gambit: Antarctica. Neither character will ever live that down. Captured in Antarctica, Gambit was put on trial and it was revealed that he was hired by Mister Sinister to get the Marauders together and lead them into the Morlock Tunnels without knowing what they were there for. That was the extent of his involvement, but every character (and many writers) treat this as an unforgivable sin. As part of said "trial," Rogue was forced to kiss him, and absorbed his memories of the incident, as well as the nearly suicidal self-loathing and guilt he was feeling over it at the time. Later, during the escape, Rogue drops Gambit onto the arctic tundra and leaves him there to face Uncertain Doom. This was the point where their relationship drama leapt from Can't Have Sex, Ever to a mutual Love-Hate Relationship, and it has never fully recovered. I don't think this is the first thing most fans associate with the characters

Magneto: This one is a combination of Characterization Marches On and Status Quo Is God. Chris Claremont reimagined Magneto as a Well-Intentioned Extremist who invoked a lot of Villain Has a Point moments to make him a richer, more tragic character. However, the rest of Marvel wants him to be a Card-Carrying Villain only a step above his original characterization. As such, most people will bring up the time he tore the Adamantium out of Wolverine's body, the time he infiltrated the mansion and started setting up concentration camps for Muggles (that version of him revealed as an impostor immediately once the storyline finished), or any number of other instances where he jumped off the slippery slope. Since Magneto is supposed to be the "villain" of the X-Men stories, many writers will do whatever it takes to make audiences root against him, even though that isn't what made him a compelling antagonist in the first place. He's actually been an honest-to-goodness team member for many years now, and even before that, he hadn't been their Big Bad in decades. To hear many fans talk about him, his portrayal in The '60s is how he is to this day. Can NLIT apply to a decade of portrayals? I thought it was one specific moment.

Stacy is that girl who would have lived had Spidey not been incompetent, or was it the fall that killed her as Goblin called out in the same issue. Either way, Gwen Stacy is a saintly martyr, Peter's one true love who was Too Good for This Sinful Earth, and since The Night Gwen Stacy Died is the one story she appears in that is widely reprinted as a standalone, despite the fact that she barely appears in it and isn't even the most significant female character in the story (Mary Jane Watson is), it's all people are likely to know her for. Hell, some fanfic rewrites of the mythos tend to introduce her with the explicit intent of killing her off. It probably doesn't help that every new adaptation changes her personality and character completely, from becoming a tough punk-rock bad girl, to a nerd with a temper and occasional snark tendency, to Mary Jane with Jane Foster's science smarts. The only tying factor between every character is romantic feelings towards Peter (some more than others), and being a Daddy's Girl of a Reasonable Authority Figure police Captain.note Newer fans unfortunately remember her for Sins' Past which revealed that she cheated on Peter with Norman Osborn of all people (which was later retconned to have been an illusion by Mysterio) and that poor MJ has been unfairly burdened with the guilt of not measuring up to her. This is arguably out of date. Spider-Gwen is very popular, especially after Into the Spiderverse.

Spider-Man himself will never live down the entire One More Day storyline where he sold his marriage to Mephisto to save his aunt (who was okay with dying, and, let's face it, doesn't have too many years left anyway) even with the One-Above-All's objection - who is, you know, the Marvel equivalent of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent Judeo-Christian God, no matter what editorial says. Even with the Retcon that Mary Jane actually agreed to that deal, many fans still not convinced and perceived that as an Ass Pull due to the dialogue of what she said to Mephisto is completely different. The Secret Wars series The Amazing Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows seems to exist to appeal to people that really didn't like the change. One More Day is absolutely not the first thing anyone thinks of when they hear of Spider-Man.

One More Day also had this effect on the person most responsible, Joe Quesada, who was Marvel's Editor-in-Chief at the time. While he'd always been known for some fairly controversial views about how the Marvel Universe should be run, he was in general considered a massive improvement over his predecessor Bob Harras, who had infamously exacerbated Marvel's legendary mismanagement in the '90s. Then he mandated this story be done, and suddenly his name was a byword for an overbearing higher-up with too much creative control and goodwill for him dried up (though it is not actually true that he was the only one pulling for the retcon). He built up a reputation as a man who was in the comics business to make everything how it was when he was a kid and/or vent personal issues. Can creators get NLID?

Quesada and later writers also tried to do this to the Breakout Character of the Spider-Man series: Mary Jane Watson by trying to downplay or shuttle her out of spotlight and/or constantly having characters in page repeatedly talk about why they shouldn't be together. MJ is also characterized by the few defenders of the Post-OMD Status-quo as the flighty girl who strings Peter along and keeps rejecting his marriage proposals. In actual fact she only did it oncenote which she did so in a very shallow manner albeit a later scene has her giving a sympathetic reason that she didn't tell Peter (her parents are divorced and she wasn't encouraged by the failed marriage of her friends Betty Brant and Ned Leeds) and then she and Peter broke up perfunctorily (ordered by editor Marv Wolfman to shake up a status-quo) and she was Put on a Bus making a few token appearances until returning to the supporting cast where she revealed that she knew Peter was Spider-Man all along, starting a character arc that led to her marriage. In this period, she was Peter's confidant and friend (albeit a friend with whom she still dated and shared kisses with when he needed it), the first person Peter confessed his guilt about letting Uncle Ben die to while Peter was in a dead-end relationship with the Black Cat (who loved Spider-Man but hated Peter). Seems unrelated.

Surprisingly, the one thing everybody does let her (Scarlet Witch) live down is the time she violated Wonder Man during her Face–Heel Turn in West Coast Avengers. Keep in mind this was over a decade before she destroyed the Avengers or depowered most of the mutant population, but no one ever brings it up when discussing Wanda's horrible actions. Should we be pointing out when people do let things go?

The time that Doctor Doom was defeated by Squirrel Girl, when the ultimate scheming badass of the Marvel Universe got owned by someone who was essentially a joke—-GAK! SILENCE TROPER! IT WAS A DOOMBOT. A DOOMBOOOOOOOOOOOT!! Natter.

The "Marcus Immortus" storyline for Carol Danvers from The Avengers #200 note . The fan backlash to this ensured that neither Marvel Comics nor the character would ever live it down, and it remains one of the biggest elements of her backstory to this day. Avengers Annual #10 (itself best known today only as "the one where Rogue had her first appearance") allowed Carol to deliver a well-deserved What the Hell, Hero? speech to the assembled Avengers for their nonchalant attitudes towards what had happened to her,note as well as undoing the whole thing by having Marcus Immortus die within a week of returning to Limbo, after which Carol spent the rest of the year tinkering with his machinery to send herself back to Earth. Also seems out of date, as Carol Danvers had had a resurgence in the 2000s.

George Tuska will always be remembered for giving the Iron Man armor a nose. Another creator one.

Sharon Carter, who had a long and storied history as a major figure in Captain America's mythos as well as becoming director of SHIELD for a time, is mostly remembered for being the woman who killed Captain America. She was brainwashed, and later led the charge to bring him back to life, neither fact is as well remembered. Entry seems unsure of itself. Personally, I don't agree. If anything, I'd say she'll never live down the "replacement goldfish" jokes.

Writer Kaare Andrews will probably never live down writing the revelation in Spider-Man: Reign that Peter poisoned Mary Jane with his radioactive sperm. Creator.

Rick Remender's Uncanny Avengers (and to some extent Remender himself) never really recovered from the infamous "M-Word Speech" in issue 5, where Havok seemingly advocates that mutants totally assimilate into human society in order to be accepted. This was not, in fact, the intent of the scene, but the awkward wording of the speech broke the Aesop. Reviewers lit up Remender for seemingly not realizing the real-life implications of the speech, and Remender did himself no favors by telling one such critic to "drown in hobo piss" on Twitter. Ultimately, Uncanny Avengers became yet another work of fiction better known for controversy than content. Remender would win back some fans by making Sam Wilson Captain America and taking a number of potshots at racism while he was at it, most notably retconning the infamous story where the Sam was revealed to have formerly been a pimp and drug dealer, often considered the single most racist thing published by Marvel, into Fake Memories implanted by the Red Skull. Remender left Marvel to focus on his own projects the following year; it's presently unknown what if any role the controversy played in this decision. Creator.'

Howard Chaykin regards his Star Wars comics as a combination of this and Old Shame. Chaykin: I'm on record everywhere regarding this – I'd like to think that had I known it was going to be that big a deal, I would have done a better job. That work will haunt me to my grave, diminishing the value of the actually good and true work I've produced in the past forty odd years. I figure my NYT obit will read "HOWARD CHAYKIN DIES; FUCKED UP STAR WARS COMICS – AND REALLY NOW, WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE HE DID, RIGHT?" Creator, ZCE.