There are multiple work pages for fanfics that exhibit several problems. These issues tend to be glossed over and go unfixed for long periods of time. While this problem is also present with works pages for official works and not just fan-made content, it tends to get glossed over more with fanfics due to them appealing to a smaller niche compared to the wider audiences that official works have. Many of these issues include:
- Zero-Context Examples
- Grammar, ranging from spelling to punctuation
- Namespace, which is often used as FanFic, not the more appropriate Fanfic
Edited by ssjSega on Jan 25th 2020 at 10:37:37 AM
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Pages In Accidentally Miscapitalised Namespaces
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thread whenever I add to the to-do list?
No, you can just add them.
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Okay, I added Shadow Of The Valley to the cutlist. Since everything was transfered to a Sandbox, I'm going to see if we can just re-create the tropes page with the correct namespace and without the ZC Es since the Sandbox zeroed out most of them and I added context to the ones that I could.
I think I've hit my limit on dealing with this— Ryanasaurus0077 was Auto-Erotic Troping dozens of unwritten fics for his Ryanasaurus0077s Pretty Cure Fanseries and Ryans Official Cureverse. After it came up on ATT and a mod pushed, he sent a handful of them to the cutlist. I cutlisted... a lot more, as did another troper. I think now they're down to the ones that actually exist, but even those talk about stuff yet-to-be-written mixed in with what has been.
In looking at those remaining pages, there's the aforementioned problem, along with writing about them as if they were actual TV shows instead of fanfiction, ex. referring to voice actors he "cast" in roles, music, hypothetical translations... Since they're all in the Pretty Cure fandom I know nothing about, there are probably things I can't discern since I don't know what's original vs. fan invented. I don't know if it's worth someone else tagging in to help, or just let it go since the lack of crosswicking makes it unlikely they'll get stumbled upon. Thoughts?
I don't know either how many other fanfic namespace pages have these same issues of pretending they aren't about fanfiction, troping what's only in the author's head, etc.?
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As far as I am concerned, we are not a fanon wiki and should not trope or make note of non-existent attributes for fan works - in this case, production information.
Don't quote me on that, though, since there doesn't seem to be an official ruling on this sort of stuff.
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Oh, I once ran into the very same issue. The main work page was in Fanfic/ namespace and it had a character sheet attached, listing actual real actors. It bothered the hell out of me, and I mentioned it in some cleanup project or ATT, though I don't think anyone commented on it and I never went back to the page. Now I can't remember what page it was. :-(
But such material should be forbidden. At least in my opinion. Because we are here to document and write about stories that actually exist. Not about some fantasy casting that didn't happen
Well, fantasy casting is possible, but that's under the Hypothetical Casting trope and even then, that's in an officially published story and the author has to be explicit about the fact of what actor is portraying the character.
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I suppose if the author actually lists the (voice) actors they would want to depict the characters, we could list it as an example of Hypothetical Casting or Comic-Book Fantasy Casting on the main page. But we absolutely shouldn't list voice actors on the characters page if there isn't any voice acting.
Edited by Serac on Apr 12th 2020 at 2:55:41 PM
The meat of the matter, to me, is that oftentimes the author is using the work page as the only place where they have done said "casting", so the work page is less a documentation of the work and the author's comments, and more of a scratchpad for the author themselves.
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So then we can just say that such examples need a source and delete unsourced entries.
Seasons of Miracles has a lot of Word of God comments from the author about stuff that will happen later. It appears to be a Dead Fic. Should this be deleted?
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Those shouldn't be there even for a non-dead fic, so yeah, delete them
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Here's the latest bad article that the Bi The Way cleanup has found: Fanfic.The Red Crown Around Your Door. It has a ton of first-person writing.
Removed 1st person.
Found a Code Geass fanfic and a BlazBlue fanfic, Zero Requiem and Aura of the Azure, that has the namespace issue in which it shows as FanFic, not Fanfic. Also in Zero Requiem's case, some ZCEs.
Also, Friendly Foreign Exchange Student Spider-Man! has the same namespace problem.
Edited by ssjSega on Jun 20th 2020 at 1:32:24 AM
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Second Chances needs a look. It's got ZCE's and relies heavily on spoiler tags.
Edit: Found one that not only has not much tropes, but is also unindexed and has a very short description: Outside-Context Problem (not to be confused with a trope by that name).
Edited by Berrenta on Mar 2nd 2021 at 3:30:17 AM
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Did some clean up on Second Chances- commented out most of the zero-context examples that I saw and tried to fix the excessive spoiler-tagging.
Guppy Love has it's share of ZCE's and some bad examples. I have already brought stuff from it on numerous threads.
Edited by Delibirda on Jun 13th 2021 at 8:13:45 PM
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I've noticed that the fanfic sections of some trope pages attract general examples, and I'm not entirely sure if they should go or not. For example, Furry Reminder has general examples for My Little Pony and Good Omens.
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Yeah, those should probably be cut unless they spite specific examples. They can be moved to Fanon pages.
I actually launched an entirely new item, Alternate Self Shipping, because ScrewYourself.Fan Works was full of general examples referring to fandom trends.
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I removed the two general fanfic examples on Furry Reminder.
Guppy Love has this:
- Foregone Conclusion: With a title like Guppy Love, it’s quite clear that Applejack’s crush on Rarity wasn’t meant to be.
Well, I saw in the comments that some peeps didn’t realize this until chapter 6. Plus, I knew neither of the words involved in the pun until I read it, as a non-native speaker of English. I believe it is a safe cut.
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It's more Fridge Brilliance, or maybe Genius Bonus. I've never heard that term either.
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Where do we go to report miscapitalized namespaces (Fan Fic instead of Fanfic) and get them fixed? I found a whole bunch of them on the "related" page
of The Lost Lenore.
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