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MOD NOTE: TROPES BLANKET-BANNED FROM HAVING VIDEO EXAMPLES:


It's been discussed a lot at the Video Uploading thread that a lot of poor videos are slipping through the cracks, and that a clean-up effort is necessary if we are to combat the problem.

Common issues are:

  • Videos spoiling major events from a work
  • Videos not actually fitting the trope they're attached to
  • Videos in which the important part doesn't happen until halfway through, with the length being ultimately pointless
  • Videos that use the entire work, breaking copyright; this can be done either with one video showcasing an entire short video, or multiple videos that add up to using the entire work in piecemeal.
  • Videos lacking the proper media source, or any media source at all.
  • General quality problems, like audio issues or artifacting.

So, we've got our work cut out for us; but this is at least a place to discuss problems and come to solutions.

Some helpful links:

Please take video moderation requests to this thread.

Edited by Berrenta on Sep 3rd 2023 at 7:13:45 AM

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#2576: Sep 27th 2023 at 5:29:58 AM

The only video example for Appliance Defenestration does not have something thrown out a window.

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#2577: Sep 27th 2023 at 4:39:59 PM

[up] The "Parks and Recreation" one?

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#2578: Sep 28th 2023 at 4:36:50 AM

Yep.

Update: Video is now rejected.

Edited by Berrenta on Oct 3rd 2023 at 9:54:57 AM

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#2579: Sep 30th 2023 at 4:34:32 AM

"Blame Canada" and "What Would Brian Boitano Do?" (both from South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut) have a Movieclips watermark.

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AacornSoup Editor from Pennsylvania Since: Jan, 2019
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#2580: Oct 13th 2023 at 5:28:44 AM

The clip from Jaws showing Quint's introduction is listed as having Great White Hunter for the primary trope and Nails on a Chalkboard as a secondary trope; furthermore, this clip is visible on the Video Examples page for "Great White Hunter" but for some reason it's not on the Video Examples page for "Nails On A Chalkboard", despite the latter trope being what makes the scene one of the film's most iconic (not to mention being part of Quint's Establishing Character Moment), and the former being a secondary (at best) part of the scene (Quint's Great White Hunter tendencies are better shown in the scenes on the Orca).

In my honest opinion, the clip showing Quint's introduction scene should have "Nails on a Chalkboard" as the primary trope, and "Great White Hunter", "Father Neptune", and "Establishing Character Moment" as secondary tropes.

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CaptainTedium Since: Oct, 2012
#2581: Oct 13th 2023 at 7:41:04 AM

A video example error I reported earlier was ignored, so I'm reporting the issue again, this time with what I hope is more clarity to ensure the problem is corrected.

I created a page for the comic book tie-in to the Justice League cartoon's Justice League Unlimited era and saw that there was a Video Examples page for Justice League Unlimited, which need to have their sources corrected to plain old Justice League, as the Unlimited seasons were essentially just extensions of the regular Justice League cartoon and the Western Animation wick for Justice League Unlimited redirects to that very page.

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#2582: Oct 13th 2023 at 7:59:39 AM

~Captain Tedium This isn't the thread to ask for those fixes so that's why they weren't done. You need to go to this thread and wait for a mod or engineer to process it. Make sure you give enough information so that they know what needs to be changed and how.

Edited by MacronNotes on Oct 13th 2023 at 12:15:54 PM

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#2584: Oct 17th 2023 at 5:10:40 PM

"Dark Lords Army" in Keystone Army is redundant with the page image. Is this worth a look or is it fine?

If we should pull, the voiceover can be a caption, as there's no caption for the page image at the moment.

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#2585: Oct 17th 2023 at 6:01:06 PM

I don't think image/video duplication is a problem. A video will always have more content than an image, and an image is front and center on the page whereas a video may eventually be buried.

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#2586: Oct 21st 2023 at 1:48:02 PM

Bound and Gagged has a video example when it's not supposed to. Might wanna take care of that.

Edited by DancouMaryuu on Oct 21st 2023 at 2:48:41 AM

Does anyone else here actually know Fighbird beyond the "Is this a pigeon?" meme?
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#2587: Oct 21st 2023 at 2:13:42 PM

[up][up] Good to know because I plan on tossing up part of the Bludgeoning Angel Dokuro-chan OP as a video example for Lacerating Love Language when I launch it despite the page image being a still from it evil grin

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#2588: Oct 26th 2023 at 6:22:28 AM

Wait are they allowed to put stuff from Super Mario Bros. Wonder on here yet?

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#2589: Oct 31st 2023 at 8:51:36 AM

The game's been out for a week so it's fine.

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#2590: Nov 3rd 2023 at 3:56:19 AM

The "Jaundice" video for Bystander Syndrome is 11 seconds long and has two issues with it.

The clip consists of a YT reactor giving a voice over that states the heroes sit around and do nothing while a girl is bullied in front of them, and how they do nothing to stop the bullying of Jaune either. However, the YT reactor has cut the scenes so badly, it no longer visually demonstrates the trope in action, so we're just being told the trope is in play rather than witnessing it for ourselves.

The other problem is that the YT reactor is wrong about Jaune being an example of the trope because the heroes do try to intervene, but Jaune won't let them. The whole arc is about Jaune learning to ask for help and accepting it when it's offered.

So, we have a bit a weird situation going on with this upload. If it was a video of the uncut scene directly from the episode, it would indeed show the heroes sitting around watching the girl being bullied and not intervening and it would only be 23 seconds long. Instead of doing this, someone's uploaded a badly cut YT reactor's voice over. It just seems like a weird decision to make.

Should this video remain or be removed? If I knew how, I'd make a replacement video clip myself of the uncut scene to swap in, but I just don't know how to do that.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Nov 3rd 2023 at 11:41:57 AM

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
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#2591: Nov 3rd 2023 at 9:50:11 AM

I mean, does it matter how correct the reviewer is here? They're discussing the trope as it pertains to RWBY. Right or wrong, the actual trope is still at least being touched upon.

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#2592: Nov 3rd 2023 at 10:31:47 AM

The reactor is talking about two events. One event is the trope (the girl being bullied). One event is misuse of the trope (Jaune being bullied). That's why it would have been much easier to just upload the uncut scene from the episode than a fan comment that's half right and half wrong.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Nov 3rd 2023 at 5:38:12 PM

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#2593: Nov 3rd 2023 at 10:40:25 AM

But like I said, does context matter if the point is the reviewer discussing the trope?

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#2594: Nov 3rd 2023 at 10:41:09 AM

So, it's okay to blur together use and misuse of a trope?

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#2595: Nov 3rd 2023 at 10:44:29 AM

I mean, it's not misuse from the standpoint of "the reviewer is discussing the concept". It's only misuse if you know the context of RWBY, and even then it's less "misuse" and more "an inaccurate explanation of events".

If others agree it's a problem I can go and reject the video, but I approved it with this mentality — that the trope is coming from the reviewer's discussion of the events depicted, not the actual series itself.

Edited by WarJay77 on Nov 3rd 2023 at 1:45:01 PM

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#2596: Nov 3rd 2023 at 10:49:41 AM

Okay, that's fair enough. I guess that's the same idea as using images from works that don't necessarily portray the trope if you know the context of the show in question, but which do a good enough job of visualising what the trope is trying to say when taken in isolation?

Edited by Wyldchyld on Nov 3rd 2023 at 5:50:59 PM

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
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#2597: Nov 3rd 2023 at 12:25:11 PM

"The effects of Doctor Who" (Doctor Who & Room 101, Special Effect Failure) is windowboxed.

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Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#2598: Nov 3rd 2023 at 1:09:27 PM

I can take down the video if that helps.[up][up][up]

WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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SparkPlugTheTroper from here to there (Captain) Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
#2600: Nov 3rd 2023 at 3:57:10 PM

So does this forum cover video examples in an incorrect namespace?

I migrated Llan-ar-goll-en from Western Animation/ to Series/, but haven't taken care of the video examples which are still in the former namespace. Could somebody get going on that?


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