So Bad It's Horrible Cleanup

I made a few small adjustments to the Universal writeup above, mostly just changing a few words and removing redundancies.

Part of me wants to throw in a joke about the game being better as an advertisement for Disney World, but I feel like people wouldn't approve of that. :P

Edit: Reposting since it's a new page

Edited by JankyKong on Apr 21st 2024 at 5:33:05 AM

• Smash 'N' Survive is a PS3 Digital Exclusive vehicular combat game consider who those played the worst in the genre. A threadbare game Smash 'N' Survive is poorly made. Ugly low res graphics, bland visuals, level design that's unfinished with meaningless traps , a soundtrack of only two rock songs, broken technical issues with lighting and audio and the worst, an option menu that has little to change anything . Gameplay barely functions, with the driving unwielding, cars with unpolished hit collition and hitboxes, different cars with minimun differences, non-functioning AI that barely attack and missing pathfindings, low weapon damage that drag the matches, a useless mission system where all missions are the same, and an unskippable crash camera after a car destruction slowing things in a crawl. It doesn't have basic info like speed stats, or damage visuals on cars for visual feedback. A game barely anything with less then an hour of content that couldn't do it right, Smash 'N' Survive is a broken shll meant for the scrapyard before it went public. Tactical Bacon Production reviewed it for their Twisted Metal clone videos, and proclaimed it the worst in the genre.

Thoughts on the write-up?

That was very hard to read. If this is a valid entry, it needs to be rewritten with decent grammar and punctuation.

• Smash 'N' Survive is a PS3 vehicular combat game seen as one of the worst in the genre. Poorly made, the game is plagued with low res graphics, bland level design with broken hazards, gamebreaking technical issues in lighting and audio, a lacking soundtrack of only two songs, and an option menu with little option to change things. Gameplay feels awful, with sluggish driving, broken collision and hitboxes, buggy AI that either doesn't function or input reads, lacks basic displays including speed stats on cars or damage indicators on enemies, and lethargic pacing with low damage and an unskippable cinematic for every destruction. A game with less than an hour of content that doesn't even do that right, Smash 'N' Survive is a broken car wreck meant for the scrapyard before it even starts. Tactical Bacon Production reviewed it for their Twisted Metal clone videos, and claimed it as the ugliest and worst game in vehicular combat.

Much better?

Edited by TheImmortalAngelNewton on Apr 24th 2024 at 9:19:15 PM

Perhaps the entry you wrote seems good enough unless there are errors which if so you should fix. Can't say which ones but to put it plainly I believe it looks good.

Edited by Echidna on Apr 24th 2024 at 11:47:45 AM

Poorly made, the game is plague with low res graphics

Should be plagued.

and an option menu with little options to change things.

Should be option.

broken collition and hitboxes,

Should be collision.

A game with less then an hour of content that doesn't even do that much right,

Should be than.

and claimed as the ugliest and worst game in vehicular combat.

Should be an "it" between "claimed" and "as".

I have a proposal for the Seventh Generation folder on Horrible.Video Games.

• Crash Boom Bang! is one of the only games in the Crash Bandicoot series to be developed by a Japanese developer, in this case being Dimps, and is widely remembered by Crash fans as being one of the worst in the series. The plot is very barebones, with multiple parts of the Viscount's plan in attaining the Super Big Power Crystal making rather little sense when put together, and the trek getting there is even worse. The game attempts to be a Mario Party clone by having the players roll a die and move before playing a minigame, but there are two underlying problems. One, the minigames are incredibly unresponsive, mostly relying on touch controls that tend to react about a second later than when they're inputted, causing numerous instances of Fake Difficulty. Second, and more infamously, the gameplay is entirely unnecessary, as regardless of whether or not the player or the CPUs end up winning, the story will progress as normal, meaning it's entirely possible to complete the game without putting in a single input, as text boxes automatically close by themselves after 30 seconds without input. Boom Bang! is frustrating when playing normally, and pointless when letting the game progress in any fashion, leading to it being ruthlessly slammed by critics and audiences alike and being considered a black mark on the greater Crash series.

Yes, I've heard awful things about Crash Boom Bang!, so it's a good candidate.

Any other thoughts, or is it good to add?

I'm up, fitting game and amazing write-up.

Looks good to me as well, yeah

Now that I read it, I think it's good; I would just change "one of the worst" to "the worst".

Apparently Velma Season 2 wasn't much better than the first season.

That seems to be the story, yeah. The most charitable thing I've seen about it is that Velma is just slightly less of a Jerkass in it. Otherwise it seems it's just as unpleasant as the first season was and ends on a ridiculously stupid plot twist that has to be seen to be believed. I'd like to hear other opinions before we do anything else, though.

Unrelated, but I noticed an odd edit on the Animated Film: Standalone Examples page where someone changed the word "soulless" on the Bands on the Run entry to "worthless", which I honestly wouldn't have thought much about if not for the given edit reason: "Don't call a movie soulless ever again."

Was this troper somehow offended by the use of the word "soulless" in this context? I don't get it.

I don't see the point of that word change either way, especially on a subpage for SBIH.

Talking about the way SBIH examples are usually worded: One of the reasons I sent WTH, Casting Agency? to the TRS that ultimately led to it being renamed Questionable Casting was how many SBIH entries used the overly whiny term of "wasted talent" whenever a big name actor or voice actor worked on a bad thing (or, as I said in the original TRS opener, "How could our supreme deity Rob Paulsen do such awful things like voicing both Bubsy and Coconut Fred?"

I think those entries should be rewritten to remove such language. I already asked about this in the "removing bashing, complaining and other negativity from the wiki" thread a few weeks ago, but they all ignored my request.

Edited by PhantomDusclops92 on Apr 28th 2024 at 12:01:07 PM

I don't think that's a 1:1 comparison because Questionable Casting is in Main/ and YMMV, while So Bad, It's Horrible is Darth and Flame Bait, as well as inherently related to complaints about works.

Not a mod statement and I'm not saying we can't tone down the wording like that if there ends up being agreement that it's necessary; just saying SBIH isn't quite in the same boat as things that are allowed on YMMV pages.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 28th 2024 at 6:04:38 AM

Velma (or at least its first season; there isn't a RT scores for the second yet) is currently at 39% for critics—certainly not good, but still far from outright horrible. Audience score is still very low, but given the show's status as a culture war hotspot, I'm rather reluctant to accept those scores as the true majority consensus.

I did find this entry on Velma's page that does imply that the general audience didn't really hate it:

• Opinion Myopia: The series being overwhelmingly panned by fans and the online animation community led some to assume that the show’s massive debut numbers were the result of Bile Fascination or AstroTurf. While that may be true to some extent, the online animation fandom is a much smaller demographic than general adult audiences. The large marketing push and being helmed by a well known comedic actress is more likely the reason for the show’s rating success than any form of Bile Fascination or AstroTurf.

I was trying to re-edit it to not entirely dismiss the hate watching claims. I wasn't sure how the general public (people with lives outside the internet basically) viewed it.

Velma’s certainly despised by far-right types, but even a lot of left-of-center people hated Velma too, and the second season seems to have been received even worse than the first. Still, at this point, I’d say wait to see if they renew Velma for a third season like I wrote for its current ban from the horrible page.

I mean, yeah I'm on the left and I despise the show not for political reasons but because it's just poorly written and unpleasant, and butchers one of my favorite franchises. Works like these do get caught in a culture clash but sometimes they really are just actually bad.

I'm thinking about removing Happily Never After from the SBIH entry. The film has a 4.5/10 on IMDb, and some of the actual reviews are 5/10s saying the film had good potential, but fell short in some areas. Others called it a guilty pleasure. And it doesn't sound like they're trolls or just saying that stuff just for the heck of it.

Not everything has to be on the level of Shrek, or Pixar, or even DreamWorks Animation. Besides, there are far worse animated films out there.

Well, how about this? We're definitely keeping the sequel under SBIH.

Edited by SpaceProtagonist on Apr 29th 2024 at 6:18:25 AM

Interestingly, it has a 6% on Rotten Tomatoes; which ties it with The Emoji Movie for the lowest of any theatrically-released animated film.

Edited by FernandoLemon on Apr 29th 2024 at 7:01:49 AM