Is this really an aversion of Naked People Are Funny?
- Averted in Star Trek: Voyager when Q2 removes Seven of Nine's clothes and is disappointed by her lack of response. He does appear to be impressed by the rest of her though.
Not sure if this example from Literature.Spice And Wolf is notable enough to count.
- Creator Provincialism: Averted. The series takes place in a fictional medieval setting, and there's hardly any signs of anything especially Japanese in culture, architecture, or naming convention. If not for the completely fictitious country and place names, it could be mistaken for an entirely European creation.
Edited by Oratel on May 5th 2024 at 4:19:00 AM
~ ♪ I know I’m playing with your heart / And I could treat you better but I’m not that smart ♪ ~Bringing up the following example from Our Ladies:
- Moody Trailer Cover Song: Averted. The trailer makes use of a cover by Eddi Reader of In a Big Country but takes the song in a much more joyful and hopeful direction rather than making it moody or morose.
Found this on Trivia.Sunset Boulevard:
- Career Resurrection: Averted. Gloria Swanson's film career was not revitalized by the film. She was disappointed to see that all the parts she was offered subsequently were watered down versions of Norma Desmond. Ultimately she retired completely from films, making only sporadic appearances, notably in Airport 1975.
You can’t avert Trivia, so cut it,
Just made a server on discord.Come join me.I brought this up before, but didn't get a response. Franchise.Back To The Future has a whole folder full of averted tropes:
- All Guitars Are Stratocasters:
- Marty plays a Gibson ES-335 at the Enchantment Under The Sea Dance. Unfortunately, this guitar was first made in 1958, three years after the year Marty has traveled to. (Note this is not Marty's guitar which he plays in 1985, it's the guitar he borrows from the Starlighters.)
- Also averted with Marty's yellow Erlewine Chiquita guitar at the beginning of the movie, and the black Ibanez 440-RS1 he plays at his band's audition.
- Meanwhile, in the Future…: Once Marty goes to a time period, the movie stays there with him, and doesn't show any changes he's made to the timeline until Marty sees them for himself.
- Mentor Occupational Hazard: Defied. Given his position as Marty's mentor, one might expect Doc won't survive the trilogy. Instead, Marty takes the combination of the ability to time travel and his friend's demise (once by terrorists and once by Buford Tannen) as incitement to go after him and make sure he remains alive, usually exercising his own cunning and courage in the process.
- No New Fashions in the Future: Although the clothes Doc Brown gives to Marty in Part II look almost exactly like his regular clothes, except that it's electronic and automatically adjusts its size. Doc also mentions that it's become a fad among young people in 2015 to wear their pockets inside-out, and suggests that Marty do so in order to blend in.
- One-Steve Limit: There are three guys named "Joey" in the trilogy: Marty's uncle, one of Biff's cronies (nicknamed Skinhead), and the bartender's assistant in Part III.
- Politically Correct History:
- In Part I, Lou quips, "A colored mayor? That'll be the day" when Goldie Wilson muses after Marty tells Goldie that he will be mayor in 1985.
- After locking Marty in the trunk, one of Biff's gang calls one of the Starlighters a "spook", which is a largely forgotten racial epithet for a black person. In kind, the band members respond by calling the bully "peckerwood", which is likewise a largely-forgotten racial slur for a white person.
- In Part 3, one of the old timers sees Marty in his hideous outfit and says "Must'a got that shirt off'n a dead Chinee."
- Retroactive Preparation: Apparently, this does not work in this movie's universe. If it did, after Marty got stuck in 1955, his future self would have popped in with some plutonium, easy-peasy, problem solved. Ditto 1885 and a gallon of gas.
- San Dimas Time: "If only I had more time... wait a minute, I have all the time I want; I've got a time machine!" Marty then proceeds to screw it up by giving himself only a few extra minutes, thus allowing him to make it back to the mall parking lot just in time to see Doc get shot. Justified in that he hadn't counted on the starter for the DeLorean failing. Again.
- Teleportation: The Delorean will take you to any time but always to the same place. This is deliberate, as the writers wanted to avoid a clichéd story about a modern person going to a famous historical setting ("Arthurian England" was named in the DVD). As a result, Marty always hangs in and around Hill Valley, California, has no involvement beyond local history events, and the third part was set in 1885 largely because it was the oldest plausible time for Hill Valley, the Tannens and the McFlys to exist.
- This approach is thrown out in the cartoon series, however, which introduces a new Delorean that can travel both in time and space. Cue episodes set in The American Civil War, Ancient Grome, the Salem Witch Trials, etc.
- What Year Is This?: Marty looks at newspapers instead. And of course, the DeLorean has a bright digital display that tells you exactly when you are.
- You Already Changed the Past:
- Although Doc's letter at the end of Part 2 sort of plays this trope straight (the only part of the Trilogy to do so), though Rule of Cool applies for obvious reasons. This is debatable however, as since the letter arrives after the DeLorean gets struck by lightning, it could be argued that the Western Union guy wasn't there at all until the ripple effect kicked in; alternatively, since Doc took The Slow Path to send that letter, the ripple effect kicked in a long time ago, the viewer just doesn't get to see it. The Western Union guy is the only instance of a character being present (and on-screen) for an altered event rather than simply having or, in Marty's case, being a ripple-affected artifact that's been temporally displaced.
- The 1955 Doc averts this. He specifically sends Marty back to a point after 1985 Doc has left the letter with Western Union. As can be seen in Part III, they didn't do anything about it, which allowed for normal 70+ year delivery: "and the Western Union guy lost the bet!''
Are any of these allowed? For one thing several of the examples don't refer to the franchise as a whole.
Can Trivia be played with at all? Fanwork Ban has a playing with page.
"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”I cutlisted it.
Sorry for the double post, but any thoughts on the Back to the Future entries I posted?
About those Back to the Future examples. I find them all questionable except for a few:
- Mentor Occupational Hazard: I do think this is a correct example, although averted and defied tropes are lightly different.
- San Dimas Time: This is probably the only legitiamate averted example in that whole folder, bonus points for being lampshaded and (tried) to be defied in universe.
- Affectionate Parody:
- It's clear that Jello loves the series he's making fun of, aside from a few criticisms. The sole exceptions are Adventure Time, Kingdom Hearts, and RWBY.
- With Adventure Time, Jello finds that Finn, Jake, and Princess Bubblegum are unsympathetic leads, the humor is awkward and stupid, the excessive Toilet Humor is annoying, the show doesn't conclude character arcs, and it focuses too much on romantic subplots. Jello much rather prefers the stories of the tertiary cast over the main story.
- With Kingdom Hearts, Jello believes that the series' infamous Kudzu Plot makes it basically impossible to understand, the fact that the characters seem to pull sudden plot developments out of nowhere makes it annoying, and that the Ho Yay implications between multiple characters (Sora and Riku especially) are impossible to ignore. To prove the first point, Jello replaces the word "darkness" with the word "bees" throughout the video, saying that it makes just as much sense as the actual plot.
- With RWBY, Jello finds that the show has too many plotlines that go nowhere. Jello argues that the show has too many characters and no idea what to do with any of them (especially singling out Blake as being bland and uninteresting). Jello saves most of his main criticisms for the plot, saying it takes forever for the main plot to start, tries to paint Ozpin as morally grey and fails at it, and doesn't do sufficient world building for a world that really needs it. He feels the pacing of the first three volumes is flawed such that it's best to view them all as one long season, and he then says to avoid volumes 4 and 5 altogether as they are garbage.
- It's clear that Jello loves the series he's making fun of, aside from a few criticisms. The sole exceptions are Adventure Time, Kingdom Hearts, and RWBY.
Given the series is primarily affectionate, would it be a notable aversion to list the unaffectionate ones?
Yes, I think that's fine.
~Adept removed all aversions from Most Writers Are Adults. Is it omnipresent enough to list aversions, like works actually written by children or teenagers?
Keet cleanupOn PlayingWith.Did You Just Have Sex, it lists under "Averted" — "Bob doesn't exist" and "Sex doesn't exist", which I find a bit odd.
For every low there is a high.Read the trope description. Most Writers Are Adults is not about "Works that are written by adults" (which is not a trope), but that fictional kids act way too maturely for their age because the adult writers can't get into a child's headspace, so they write children almost the same way they'd write adults. Most of the "aversions" listed was basically "kids acting like regular kids, instead of miniature adults" (also not a trope).
Edited by Adept on Jun 22nd 2022 at 11:08:23 PM
Are all on-page aversions of Incredibly Obvious Bug just Spy Cam? I just deleted one that was like "averted since the bug is actually well-hidden".
Edited by antenna_ears on Dec 18th 2021 at 2:14:59 AM
From Prom Is for Straight Kids, found while dewicking Schoolgirllesbians
- Averted in The Owl House episode "Enchanting Grom Fright", where nobody bats an eye at there being a gay couple in the background at Hexside's prom equivalent. Amity and Luz also attend together, though Luz was under the impression that they were simply going as friends.
I'm not sure if this aversion belongs on the page or not
My troper wallDoesn’t seem like a notable aversion, so I’d say cut.
back lolAmour Le Fou removed aversions from Animal Gender-Bender, but I think these are notable since male calico cats are listed on the page as straight examples.
- Averted in Case Closed where the rarity of a male calico cat becomes a major plot point.
- Averted in Haruhi Suzumiya with the cat Shamisen: he's a male calico because of his XXY chromosomes, and the rarity of such a cat is commented on by the characters when they find him.
- Averted in this story from Not Always Hopeless. A shopper needs an anniversary card for a same-sex couple, so the one with two brightly-colored peacocks is perfect. (Justified as the sales clerk majored in ornithology.)
Does this example from Marry Me (Bobby Crosby) count as a notable aversion?:
- I Drank What: Averted when the characters ask what they're drinking before they consume it. It turns out to be blood. They drink it anyway. Turns out that they had already drank it before, due to Parker is training for a vampire marathon.
Maybe?
Puberty Superpower lists aversions in which infants or young children have superpowers. I don't think those are notable.
Keet cleanupDoes the following example from Digimon: A Seraphic Tale look like it counts as a notable aversion?:
- Hollywood Autism: Averted with Yun. Her autism does present some problems, but for the most part she's fairly well written, and the author does her best to portray her as a fairly normal little girl with strengths, weaknesses, flaws, hobbies, and good qualities.
New York Is Only Manhattan has a huge number of aversions. Is this a trope that qualifies for listing aversions, or does it need clean up?
New York Is Only Manhattan should be merged with Big Applesauce
Kirby is awesome.Lineage Comes from the Father has a lot of aversions and inversions. Are they notable?
Bringing up the following examples from Spinetinglers: