Is this an example?

I mean, it's not Skewed Priorities if we don't know if there's anything more serious happening

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From Back to the Outback:

• Misplaced Wildlife: Downplayed. Pretty Boy notes that they are not in Tasmania when they encounter Tasmanian devils (a species that in the past could be found throughout Australia, but now are only found on the island state), prompting their leader, Dave, to explain that they were passing through the area on holiday.

I don't think this counts, since Tasmanian devils had been reintroduced back to mainland Australia, but what do you guys think of that?

Edited by Filip04 on May 9th 2024 at 7:51:20 PM

I mean, that movie came out a year before the article. At the time, they were misplaced, unless the reintroduction was already in progress.

Edited by WarJay77 on May 9th 2024 at 1:51:56 PM

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#31572: I think the gong thing as cited by Canuck Mc Duck 1 in #31575 should be added to the the Maus example to clarify the nature of the gong.

Edited by SamCurt on May 9th 2024 at 11:00:04 AM

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I agree with this

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Reposting from the previous page:

In the second episode of the SHUFFLE! anime adaptation, Rin briefly encounters Primula at the local arcade and gives her a head pat after realizing he doesn't have enough change for the crane game. Then, Primula glomps him and follows him home. Does this fit under Affectionate Gesture to the Head and The Glomp?

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I would say so.

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I think it would fit both, but it’s more of a glomp since headpats are pretty common.

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Bumping from previous page: Should I delete Trapped by Mountain Lions from Civil War (2006)? It was a separate event from Annihilation and it was not acknowledged by the characters in the Civil War with a couple of comics showing that the heroes didn't know what was going on and the "example" is way too complain-y.

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Yes, it should be cut.

But it would help, in the future, to actually post the full text of the example here so we don't have to go searching for it on the YMMV page in general.

Edited by ArthurEld on May 9th 2024 at 7:25:13 AM

Got a question if either of these (kind of similar) examples would qualify as Two-Faced, because the visible disfigurement is on the comparably minor side.

• In The Long Goodbye Terry Lennox took a mortar to the face during World War II and got extensive plastic surgery. As described by the protagonist, "The right side of my new friend's face was frozen and whitish and seamed with thin, fine scars. The skin had a glossy look along with the scars.)

The other example is not discussed in the movie, ''The Most Dangerous Game, but in real life, the actor playing General Zaroff, Leslie Banks had a similar injury during World War I, leaving half of his face scarred and partially paralyzed, giving him an oddly asymmetrical look. And when he would play villains, as was the case here, he'd make sure the camera caught that side of his face.

Edited by Hodor2 on May 9th 2024 at 8:18:42 AM

The Long Goodbye example definitely doens't count. Two-Faced states that it's for villains, as a subtrope of Evil Scars.

Lennox is kind of a cad, but he's not a villain and his scars are more of a curoisity piece, a metaphor for his more serious mental trauma, rather than anything treated as a horrible disfigurement.

The other one I'm not familiar with so I can't really weigh in.

I'm not entirely sure, but in my opinion, a trait inherent to the actor shouln't count as a trope unless it's addressed within the work.

I have a question pertaining to the Super Mario World cartoon episode "The Night Before Cave Christmas":

At one point in the episode, there is a scene where King Koopa and Oogtar are fighting over a christmas present that the former claims is meant for Bully. However when Oogtar opens is, he discovers that it contains a Bob-Omb and hands it back to King Koopa just before it explodes. So my question is, does this count as an example of Somebody Set Up Us the Bomb? The reason I'm asking is because there really is not much of an explanation (let alone, reason) as to why King Koopa would even give a Bob-Omb to one of his Koopalings in the first place, and the fact that he even outright says "you're not supposed to go off until christmas morning" to the Bob-Omb doesn't really help matters.

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I can understand the removal of my edits for Revealing Continuity Lapse, but I’m sure a few of these examples can stay.

• Battle for BFDI: In "SOS: (Save Our Show)", the Announcer Speaker Box calls out how Gelatin has never been eliminated in BFDI history, but later in BFDIA's continuation, "Taste the Sweetness", Gelatin actually does get eliminated, so before his departure, he asks for the Puffball Speaker Box to keep his elimination a secret from the Announcer, as he finds him scary.

• In Bob's Burgers, when Tammy first debuted in "Bad Tina," her hair was brown, but in later episodes, her hair is blonde. This is then explained in "Sit Me Baby One More Time" that it reveals that she dyes her hair and that blonde isn't her natural color. As she had to wear a purple headband to hide her "dirty roots" in that episode.

There pretty much the same as this Adventure Time example.

• The Adventure Time episode "Jake the Dog" shows Simon's skeleton wearing the Ice Crown, well after Finn took it from him. This is later explained in "Crossover", as Prismo takes the crown from this episode and places it on Simon's head right before the Mushroom Bomb explodes, thereby destroying it and ending its influence on the Farmworld universe.

I removed them because they don't fit the requirement of "reveals something about the universe or is used to make things surreal". They're just errors that turn out to not be. (The Adventure Time one would indeed also be misuse, I just hadn't seen it last night)

I launched the trope so I'm very well aware of what makes a valid example for it.

Edited by WarJay77 on May 10th 2024 at 8:25:56 AM

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From Strawman Has a Point in YMMV.All In The Family:

• Archie is supposed to be in the wrong for laying into David for being a draft dodger, but he has a right to be angry because David is technically a fugitive from justice and everyone hid this from him while the guy was eating Christmas dinner at his house. He also makes the more or less valid point that there are plenty of people who are afraid to go off to war, believe killing is wrong, or just plain don't believe in it, but go off to fight it, anyways (or get a non-combat posting, or even do some other form of government service). It's hard to see why David should get a free pass just because he has 'convictions.' Mike tries to counter that the war is morally wrong, but Archie tells him that that is irrelevant. This might be harder to understand for modern viewers who were born after the draft was removed.
  • Archie's view is even more understandable when you remember not only did he serve in World War II, but he was drafted as well.

...Is this truly a majority opinion? I feel most people are sympathetic to draft dodgers. YMMV requires fandom consensus and I don't think this sentiment is as widely agreed as the entry acts it is.

Draft Dodging has always been controversial, but especially during The Vietnam War, which both when it was active and in hindsight was unpopular and harmed more than it ever did good. Archie Bunker also is usually supposed to be a straw man that is called out by the narrative. It does seem shitty that David basically hid out at the Bunker's place without telling them, but also it wasn’t for Archie to complain about him not joining a war where he would more than likely die for nothing.

The entry also seems like more like Values Dissonance at the end, and with an extra bulletin justifying Archie’s hostility.

Edited by CanuckMcDuck1 on May 10th 2024 at 10:38:04 AM

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yeah i agree, that fits Values Dissonance a lot better

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I haven't watched the movie, but the way you've described it fits better Hypocrite than Depraved Homosexual. To quote the latter page:

I don't see it in your description of the character. He just has an attractive attendee and doesn't mind his underlings using prostitutes, but he doesn't even do it himself.

If a show replaces someone with another actor for comedy purposes, without explaining the switch, does that count as lampshading The Other Darrin?

(Which is normally trivia, but can be played with and tagged as [[invoked]] if it becomes part of the work)

If so, does it still count when it's done for comedy in what's essentially a funny documentary?

Football series Welcome to Wrexham has an episode where one of the club's key employees goes on holiday for a week and everything goes wrong.

As he's on holiday, there's no camera crew with him. So when people start phoning him, his end of the conversation is done as a dramatic reconstruction. That reconstruction aspect is humorously acknowledged in captions, but the comedy comes from also replacing him & his partner with actors (Hollywood Beauty Standards, Walking Shirtless Scene) for all of those scenes, which is done without comment.

Is it The Other Darrin? Is there a better trope for it?

Edited by Mrph1 on May 11th 2024 at 5:23:24 PM

Obvious Stunt Double?

Possibly - I did look at that one, but it seemed that it might need stunts or action scenes?

This example was added to Viler New Villain.

• The Shrek franchise has Death, whom being a far cry to the Laughably Evil yet still threatening villains of past films, is by far the darkest villain in the entire franchise and has absolutely little to no comedic moments whatsoever.

Should this really count? While Death is a Knight of Cerebus when compared to the other villains, he is more of a personal threat to Puss and he's not evil so much as he is infuriated with Puss for wasting his 8 lives under the arrogant belief that he's immortal. Once Puss proves that he's no longer that same cat, Death lets him go to live out his life.

Edited by Mattman_the_Storyteller on May 11th 2024 at 9:40:35 AM

Bump.

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