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This is the sticky thread for questions related to the namespacing of works. As in, "which is the right namespace for this work?"

Ideally, questions already answered are covered on the Namespace Map. If you know a namespacing issue has already been resolved, but it is not yet documented on the Map, please update the Map.

If you want to suggest a new namespace, don't post here, but in Suggesting New Namespaces instead.

    Original OP: 
I busy myself with moving works off of Main/ and I've encountered a number of cases where I can't decide to which namespace something should go. Some of these questions may have been asked before, but there seems to be no general reference point for namespace issues. Maybe this could become a sticky thread for all media-namespace related questions?

For easier reference, I've numbered my questions:

  • #1: Where do animated films go? They seem to be distributed rather inconsistenly over Film/ (Puss In Boots, Whats Opera Doc), WesternAnimation/ (Disneys Anne Frank, Snow White), Anime/ (Princess Mononoke) and Disney/ (Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs, Der Fuehrers Face).
  • #2: There are a few songs which have their own pages ("Pirate Jenny"). Where do they go – to Music/ or to Literature/ ?
  • #3: Where do composers go – to Music/ , or are they to be treated like other creators, which hitherto stay on Main/ ?
  • #4: Where do Talk Shows, Game Shows and News Broadcasts go? I guess you could call these formats Live-Action TV but they're not really "TV series", as in Series/.
  • #5: Am I right in assuming that Puppet Shows go to Series/ ?
  • #6: What about “hybrid shows”, i.e. segment shows that incorporate both live action and animation? (e.g. Die Sendung Mit Der Maus)
  • #7: Where to put picture books? I am thinking of books like Der Struwwelpeter and Max and Moritz — books that are really not complete without their illustrations. They are not (yet) ComicBook/s, but to sort them under Literature/ feels a little unsatisfactory too.
  • #8: The rule is to put works into the namespace of their original medium. However, once in a while there is a work which is little known in its original medium, and almost exclusively known by its adaptation. I’m thinking of Das Boot, for example: there's a novel, but it is almost exclusively known by the Petersen movie.
  • #9: Should One Book Authors who are invariably tied to a single work be treated as a creator or a work page rather?— Currently, we have Samuel Pepys and Herodotus, but shouldn't these pages be at Literature/The Diary of Samuel Pepys and Literature/The Histories rather?
  • #10: There are cases where I’m unsure whether to use the English or the original title. Is there are hard rule that determines whether Der Ring Des Nibelungen goes to Theatre/Der Ring des Nibelungen or Theatre/The Ring of the Nibelung? Even Wikipedia uses the original title.

I'd be grateful for input.

Edited by SeptimusHeap on Nov 9th 2023 at 8:15:08 PM

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#1851: Apr 3rd 2024 at 5:40:05 AM

Bumping this since I still stand by everything I said there, and the discussion about it almost immediately stalled.

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#1852: Apr 3rd 2024 at 5:44:35 AM

[up] I propose "Namespacing works" or "Which namespace this belongs to?"

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#1854: Apr 10th 2024 at 9:29:16 AM

Hollering for this thread to be renamed per Amonimus' suggestion

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#1855: Apr 10th 2024 at 9:40:45 AM

Title changed with grammatical corrections made.

Edit: Made a smaller change by changing "this" to "this work" to clarify the thread's purpose.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 10th 2024 at 12:32:19 PM

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#1856: Apr 10th 2024 at 7:45:25 PM

Where should we move LetsPlay.The Hohenzollern Empire?

It's an After-Action Report. Should we move it to the Fanfic namespace?

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#1858: Apr 13th 2024 at 10:26:28 AM

I've been working on a sandbox for a game #No_Case_Should_Remain_Unsolved. At 40+ tropes, I think the page is ready to go live, but I'm not sure whether I should put it in Video Game or Visual Novel namespace. The developer's site lists it as a Visual Novel and it's tagged as one on Steam, but can it be considered one by our rules? I've never played visual novels before and the definition on the Visual Novel page is kinda confusing. Help?

(If you wanna know what the game is like, here's the link to the playthrough I've been using)

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#1859: Apr 13th 2024 at 12:08:41 PM

[up][up]Fanfic is probably the closest fit.

[up]The screenshots look a lot like what I'd consider to be Visual Novel gameplay. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and calls itself a duck...

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#1860: Apr 13th 2024 at 6:14:34 PM

Thanks Normal. I'll get to the switch to Fanfic.The Hohenzollern Empire hopefully tomorrow.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Apr 14th 2024 at 8:09:49 AM

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#1861: Apr 14th 2024 at 12:27:38 AM

[up][up] Then that's what I'll go with. Thanks!

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#1862: Apr 14th 2024 at 1:08:56 PM

I am on mobile, RN. Can someone else move The Hohenzollern Empire to Fanfic.The Hohenzollern Empire due to technical limitations?

[down] Noted.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Apr 14th 2024 at 7:42:14 AM

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