- Broken Base: And how!
- First we have the fans who only like Eden Fire and consider everything the band released afterward too soft.
- Then we have have the part which gave up on the band when Roland left.
- And then, a huge chunk of loyal fans disappeared when Richard left to start his own band after being unsatisfied with the band's new direction.
- Then there are those who actually prefer the band's new sound.
- They Changed It, Now It Sucks!: They've been accused of this as early as Only Inhuman, although We Rule the Night further cemented this trope when it was first released.
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