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  • Accidental Innuendo: In the behind-the-scene live for the Phoenix Games video, Fred comments during the Disney princess cosplayers' cameo shot that technical tools needed to shoot their videos appeared onscreennote . One of the sentences he used to describe the situation was "on voit la gueuse", literally "the ballast can be seen" (referring to a heavy object which serves to stabilize cameras or projectors lights). However, this is obscure technical terminology and "gueuse" has a very different meaning in common French, making him sounds like he said "the wench can be seen" to comment a scene featuring four women onscreen, one of them (a cosplayer dressed as the mermaid version of Ariel) being very scantily dressed.
  • Alternate Aesop Interpretation: The Tomb Raider: Search for the Mysterious Green Dollar video is obviously a very caustic satire of YouTube's monetization policies, including Laurent Croft's rant at the end of the video, but this speech may also work as a denunciation of Political Overcorrectness, a phenomenon which actually was criticized by Fred in other videos and in interviews.
  • Aluminum Christmas Trees:
    • In the Glen A. Larson series' special, Seb shows Fred an episode of Heil Honey I'm Home!, to the bafflement of the latter. A couple hours after the episode's upload, Fred posted a tweet clarifying that yes, Heil Honey I'm Home! was a real series. Many comments were in the vein of "It looked so absurd I was sure it was a joke the JdG team created for the episode." The context of the scene in the episode (Seb browsed an alternate universe version of Netflix, and chose the show after name dropping fictional series which titles were puns based on real ones) probably didn't help.
    • In the Silver Surfer (1990) review during the Comics' Videogame Part 2 video, the "Japanese" gamer Fred invites to finish the game angrily answers, in perfect French, that he's a Frenchman named "François Lebreton". While it looks like a fake name to emphasize he may look Asian but he's a full Frenchman (it would translate as "Frenchman The Briton"), this actually is the actor's real name.
  • Anvilicious: The Code Bleu narrative is pretty unambiguous about how important hospitals are, how they should never be treated like any other business or focus on making money rather than curing patients. However, with the constant complaints about French hospitals being understaffed and undersupplied, it can't be understated.
  • Award Snub: One of the many people not even nominated for the Web Comedy Awards in 2014.
  • Awesome Music: Many different kinds of music are used during his episodes, which always leads to commenters asking "What is the music from this part from?" Fortunately, nowadays, the music shows up in the credits.
  • Bizarro Episode: The two-part Takeshi's Challenge episode features a different opening, an opening narration in Fred's... approximate Japanesenote  that has nothing to do with the game in the first part, a frantic pacing, out-of-nowhere references and a very wacky tone, in line with the game itself.
  • Broken Base:
    • The Mid-Review Sketch Show aspect in many of his later episodes. A portion of fans find them boring and distracting, another portion finds them funny and think they give the videos personality. Fred personally prefers to add skits so as to break monotony.
    • The Better than a Bare Bulb nature of a lot of the jokes; is it funny and meta, or is it just cheap and repetitive way of pretending subversiveness?
  • Common Knowledge:
    • Plenty of viewers believe that Sorina is Japanese because she played the role of several Asian characters in some episodes, and her most memorable roles are Japanese women. In reality, Sorina is French with Cambodian origins.
    • Contrary to the meme originating from the videos, Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet isn't supposed to be a bald eagle: the first mention of her (in Comics #1) explicitely tells she shouldn't be confused with one.
  • Crosses the Line Twice:
    • "Those drawings are as bad as my little sister's.' And my little sister is DEAD! I KILLED her because her drawings SUCKED!"
    • Seb as the Joker cutting someone's fingers off... and replacing them with sausages. The victim later finds himself unable to resist eating his new 'fingers' because they are simply too delicious.
      Marius: It's at the same time painful... and delicious... [eats one of the sausages]
    • Most of the things Papy Grenier does or says. At one point, he shoots one of his grandkids to see if people react like in the N64 Goldeneye videogame when they're shot and seems genuinely surprised that it's not the case. Then he tells the other kids to search some bandage to tend the wound. He also tried to convince his daughter to abort and wants to tell the story to the grandchildren, may have killed and buried a child in his backyard, keeps the skull of someone on him (thinking it was his father's), and, in general, he revels in abusing Videogame Cruelty Potential For the Evulz.
    • In his Civilization Let's Plays, he once again abuses the Videogame Cruelty Potential For the Evulz. And while as Napoleon he at least showed Pragmatic Villainy from time to time; as Catherine de Medicis, he doesn't.
    • His The Guild narrative Let's Play stars a dynasty of merchants scheming and murdering their way into power in ways that wouldn't be out of place in Game of Thrones. All of it is played for laughs.
    • At the end of the first review of games adapted from comic books, Duckman and the Eagle of the Night end up maiming a class of fourth graders playing laser tags, thinking they are the Big Bad's henchmen. They're not, and even the Big Bad is apalled by their needless brutality!
    • The second comic book episode starts with Barbara Magret saying she wants to help with capturing supervillains, and Magret telling her "Tu peux toujours courir." It's a common French expression to express a blunt refusal, but it also literally means "You can always run." It doesn't seem like much until you realize he says that to his wheelchaired daughter.
    • The World of Tanks commercial at the beginning of the Bad Boys 2 - Enter the Matrix episode includes this gem:
      Seb: Create an account and subscribe. It's as easy as invading Poland!
    • In "Games and Metal", Seb parodies the Scarily Competent Tracker trope by being able to discover how many people were in the area (and how long ago they left) by tasting a puddle of vomit.
    • In the Fort Boyard episode, Fred reacts to a hideously racist (Dummied Out) cutscene in Fort Boyard : La Légende featuring an Asian man, by mentioning other China-related clichés and stereotypes the cutscene forgot to mention.
    • In the end of the Ghostbusters episode, the form taken by their version of Gozer is Hitler dressed as a Japanese schoolgirl. Since the Mid-Review Sketch of the episode is a very faithful pastiche of the first movie, the context is identical: their Gozer took this form because it was a comforting character from a protagonist's childhood...
    • In one of the commercials specials, Fred explains he misheard the theme song of the Pom'Pot applesauce as a song about Pol Pot. Cue a Pol Pot-themed parody of said ad. It's unclear if the singing is from Sorina (who is of Cambodian origin).
      Pol Pot the despot
      Pol Pot, handsfree
      Pol Pot, upside-down
      Pol Pot, underwater
    • The Kerbal Space Program videos take place in the Toulouse-Matabiau space center, "formerly AZF". AZF was a chemical factory built in the French city of Toulouse that exploded in late 2001. Highly appropriate for a setting where rockets explode every five minutes, less appropriate in polite society.
    • In Castlevania, Belmont is Dracula's neighbor and slaughters Dracula's guests slasher movie-style because the party is too noisy. In the end, it's revealed Alucard deliberatedly engineered this situation to make sure Belmont would snap and murder Dracula. Then Belmont kills Alucard then politely but firmly asks Dracula to lower the volume of the music... after everyone else is dead. Dracula refuses.
  • Gateway Series: His original intention for making the show, because he wanted to introduce more people to AVGN and the kind. So far, it seems like he's succeeded as long as the French are concerned.
  • Genius Bonus:
    • In the Enter the Matrix episode, Seb (as the boss of Infogrames) says to Fred!Neo that they "plan to invade politics very soon". Behind him on the screen, you can see footage of Bruno Bonnell, the real life former CEO of Infogrames, who became a parliament member for Emmanuel Macron’s party La République en Marche in 2017.
    • In the Mission: Impossible episode, French videogame journalist Julien Chièze plays his own role, in a sketch based on a review for the game he really wrote at the time. In the context of the review sketch he's solely addressed as the pen name he used to wrote the article ("Gollum"), while end credits acknowledge him under his real name without mentionning it's the same person. The joke "it's the real reviewer who plays his own role" is impossible to get by viewers who aren't very well versed in gaming-related French press.
    • In the Cyberpunk 2077 Papy Grenier, to the uninitiated the replacing of Johnny Silverhand by Johnny Hallyday sounds as a gag based on similar first names (Johnny Hallyday is commonly referred as just "Johnny" in France), but both characters are more similar than this, for reasons never mentioned in the parody but which would be known by actual Cyberpunk 2077 players. Like Silverhand, Hallyday is a long dead famous rockstar (he died in 2017; the episode has been released in 2021, but Papy Grenier is supposed to be set in the future).
  • Ensemble Dark Horse:
    • Several recurring characters started as one-off characters for short jokes that proved popular.
      • Jean-Michel Bruitages started in the Excalibur 2555 video as a man making a weird sound as the death scream of a scorpion, then only reappeared as a Chekhov's Gag in the Young Indiana Jones video. However, both appearances proved popular and he became a recurring character who speaks in faux-japanese.
      • David Goodenough was a gag character based on the name of a man who really worked on X-Perts, but his very memeable first appearance granted him an instant following.
    • The builder in the Resident Evil movies video was an One-Scene Wonder, but endeared through his great acting and costume.
  • Growing the Beard: Fred has commented that the series really gained an identity and quality of its own with the Dark Castle review, where he let go of the obvious influence from the AVGN.
  • Harsher in Hindsight:
    • Sort of. In the Raid 2020 review, the Joueur du Grenier makes fun of the game's catchphrase ("Winner fight drugs") by showing a photograph of Lance Armstrong while saying "except him". Armstrong was stripped of his winning titles on the Tour de France (because of doping and after a very long suspicion) a few weeks after the release of the video. It should be noted that, while Armstrong was proved of doping himself after the video was released, almost everyone took for granted that it was the case.
    • In the Star Wars episode in December 2015, there's a joke about a resistance soldier with the code-name Charlie − "Charlie! Where are you? We've lost Charlie!"note  Willy Gauchet, the actor who played Charlie, passed away a few months later at the age of 24 (an In Memoriam was included at the end of the Matrix episode).
    • The Tomb Raider episode:
      • The video mocked Youtube's monetization policy and was immediately followed by the Duke Nukem Forever episode, which behind-the-scene production was marked by a lot of issues with Youtube.note 
      • One gag was swear words being bleeped out, which at the time of the video production (it was released on the end of June 2021) was just part of the satire against Youtube being overly zealous against sensitive content. One year and a half later, the Youtube algorithm was changed to look for swear words, which became a reason for demonetization.
    • In the aforementioned Duke Nukem Forever episode (already in the initial, much less censored version), Fred lampshades thrice that he censored himself to make sure the video wouldn't be demonetized.note  Turns out it wasn't enough at all to fit Youtube's guidelines.
  • He Panned It, Now He Sucks!:
    • His "vrac" game on Garfield has him saying how much he hates Garfield (although it was his Grenier persona, his real self just doesn't care about Garfield) got a lot of backslash. He even spent most of his first Tomb Raider LP setting the record straight.
    • Some people felt that his post-Genesis Sonic bashing (including using the expression "shitty friends" for every character that are not Sonic or Dr. Robotnik/Eggman) in his "2D to 3D" episode, his second video game adaptions special and the second part of the 11th Anniversy episode was really not warranted. And it didn't help that he also bashed Sonic SatAM (by calling Sally Sonic's "furry girlfriend from a comic-con" and calling the other characters pointless).
    • Let's just say that Fred and Seb calling the Metal Gear games "B-movies" during their Gamescom debrief didn't bode well with the fans.
    • Dismissing Tekken in his Star Wars episode didn't side well with the series' fans.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • Two related to the My Little Pony parody "Battle for Pony Land" sequence in the girls' cartoons special:
      • The fake trailer was made before the season finale of the fourth season of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic that does show a war between ponies.
      • The sequence ends with Fred finding a girl in his bed, which is the proof he dreamed the whole trailer. In the episode's behind-the-scenes comment on Twitch, Fred explains he met Sorina because she showed him a "Battle for Ponyland" fanart poster she made. In summary: a sequence ending with a self-deprecating joke about Fred being single directly resulted in him meeting his future wife.
    • Early in his career, Fred made a self-parody special episode (not uploaded on the official channel) where he continuously gave genuine praise to Aladdin (Virgin Games) while keeping his usual angry tone and actingnote . In 2019, Aladdin was reviewed in a regular Jeux en Vrac episode.
    • The review of Asterix and the Great Rescue starts with a parody of the usual opening of the Asterix books and animated adaptation, with the Gauls' village replaced by Fred's face and the Roman forts replaced by (then) current-gen consoles. This video is one of the first of the channel and has been released while Fred and Seb lived in Southwestern France. A few years later, they moved to live in Fougères, a town located in North-East of Brittany, so in the approximate area where Asterix's village was supposed to be foundnote .
    • In an episode, JdG jokingly asks "Did I tell you about NordVPN?", in reference to the many French YouTubers who were sponsored by NordVPN in 2019 and would begin their videos with advertising it. Several episodes later, Fred actually does make a NordVPN advertisement, in the form of a Product as Superhero story. It is, however, played even more tongue-in-cheek than his other intro ads as if Fred wants to communicate how he finds it ridiculous.
    • In the Mortal Kombat episode, while reviewing Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero, Fred goes into a rant and angrily criticizes several aspects of the game, notably that the player character (Sub-Zero) is less agile than Fred was in real life at the time he was overweight, while an actor playing Sub-Zero himself stares at Fred with a baffled expression (It Makes Sense in Context). Said actor is Ironquest, a French videomaker who has a Youtube channel focusing on diets and strength training. One year later, not only Fred was the guest of an Ironquest's video, but said video's subject was Fred's weight loss.
    • In the earlier videos, JdG had the running gag of wanting recent video game consoles at the time, namely the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and Wii. In the second part of the 11 Years Special episode, he reviews his first game from The Seventh Generation of Console Video Games as a retro one: Sonic the Hedgehog (2006), even lampshading that the Xbox 360 was already 15 years old.
    • In the Cyberpunk 2077 episode, Papy Grenier's comment compairing the omnipresence of porn ads in Night City to browsing Youtube became even more ironic when this exact scene caused the video to be flagged as Mature by Youtube, because the ads were uncensored.note 
    • The Dungeons & Dragons special episode (mostly based on the 2000 and 2005 films) reviews them as being So Bad, It's Good, and the third one is even worse. Fred concludes the episode by commenting a trailer for the then-upcomingnote  Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves, pointing out it just looks like an average adventure-comedy mix, and him hoping it could be "a good surprise" anyway is immediately followed by Seb playing the Sarcasm Mode sound effect featured earlier in the episode. Months later, Fred and Seb dubbed minor characters in the French version of this very movie (the reanimated dead in the cemetery scene). Also, Fred tweeted that the movie really was a good surprise.
      Fred: Dungeons & Dragons was really good, I didn't expect to have such a good time. Pacing is great. There's staging ideas. There's really funny characters (especially one) and a lot of gags which made the audience truly laugh.
    • The first RPG-themed video has The Grim Reaper telling Fred he'll die before the end of the year. It was released in early 2012, before Fred noticeable weight's loss and persona change, which themselves resulted in the meme about the real (fat) Fred being replaced by a thinner actor. An actual joke from an earlier episode unintentionally contains a clue supporting the "fake JDG" theory, predicting Fred disappearance approximatively at the time he logically would according to the meme.
    • In the Christmas Specials special episode, Fred concludes the introduction of his review of The Star Wars Holiday Special by stating that "if you're a dumbass, you've watched all nine [Star Wars films]". At the time, there were only eight canon films (the prelogy, the original trilogy, The Force Awakens, and Rogue One; The Last Jedi was released less than a week before the videonote ), the ninth being the Holiday Special, which receives a very negative review. Fred himself hated the Star Wars third trilogy; in the behind-the-scene comment for the video, he pointed out his sentence also qualifies if you change the context to a conversation about the three canon trilogies.
  • It's Short, So It Sucks!: Another complaint he talked about is that if his Jeux en Vrac (a short review of a game he doesn't have time on his regular review) only takes 3 minutes to talk it's gonna be a 3 minutes video since the whole point of it was that the main channel got him stuck in a format and Bazar du Grenier is for video not limited by that.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • David Goodenough.note 
    • The fake JdG.note 
    • Jeu à patounes (patounes' game).note 
    • "Did I tell you about NordVPN?"note 
    • On vit vraiment dans une saucisse.note 
    • Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet is a bald eagle.note 
  • Misblamed: In "Wii Games for Girls", some viewers felt Laëtitia Neveux's acting (cast as a Gender-Bent Alternate Universe version of Fred) was off. In the behind-the-scene comment of the episode, Fred addressed the controversy by pointing out he painstakingly controlled and approved the tone, pitch, and pacing of each of her lines, to make sure she exactly sounds like the JdG if he were a woman. Due to this constant supervision, Fred explicitely tells that if she's actually acting bad, it means that he is the sole responsible.
  • Never Live It Down: JdG is sometimes seen as the stereotypical "angry reviewer" who makes cliché "the game designers were on drugs" jokes. He did a couple of drug-related jokes in his early episodes, but he quickly dismissed these type of gags later on.
  • One-Scene Wonder: The Excalibur 2555 A.D had very mixed reception when it was first released. However, the best part was generally agreed to be Jean-Michel Bruitage vocalizing the death scream of a scorpion (it was also his first appearance).
  • Spiritual Successor: The story parts in "Games and Metal" are very similar to Brütal Legend, since they're about an epic journey set in a world mixing Heroic Fantasy and Heavy Metal, with music being an integral part of fights, and encounters with Black Metal and Hair Metal-based antagonists.
  • Squick:
    • In the AB Productions themed special, Fred explains the origin of Club Dorothée: AB Productions' CEO was bedridden for several months after he caught hepatitis after eating a pizza with a mussels topping, and without much else to do beside binge-watching TV, he discovered Dorothée (future animator of the eponymous show), and the rest is history. After grimacing at the mere concept of a mussels pizza, Fred points out that one way of catching hepatitis is to eat feces.
    • "Games and Metal" has a gag where Seb acts as a tracker by tasting a puddle of vomit.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks!:
    • The Zelda-themed Papy Grenier received a lot of criticisms from fans since instead of old Papy Grenier telling a story, it is a fake news report broadcasted on television in which Fred barely appears outside of the segments with Papy Grenier. Fred said that he wanted to try something different and avoid stock jokes since the Zelda games have already been parodied to death. In several behind-the-scene live videos, Fred confessed the negative reception of the episode made him very reluctant to play with the key elements of the Joueur du Grenier formula.
    • In the Hogwarts' Legacy Papy Grenier episode, Papy's grandson isn't dubbed by Fred sped-up voice like usual but by an AI child voice-over, which has been heavily criticized by watchers. In the behind-the-scenes live comment video, Fred acknowledges he feels half of the character lines sound off, and he won't use the same tool in future Papy Grenier episodes.
  • They Copied It, So It Sucks!:
    • When his first videos appeared, many viewers accused him of being an AVGN knockoff. It didn't help he copied a bit too much of Rolfe's trademarks... but now he has Growing the Beard (not literally, he already had one) and many French gamers prefer him over AVGN (and that doesn't include the language barrier). It's worth mentioning that at first he made sure not to review games already reviewed by Rolfe, a decision that has helped him avoid this trope for the most part. So far, the games he reviewed that Rolfe had reviewed before are justified by being as infamous in France as they were in the US back in the day. An exception is The Legend of Zelda: Faces of Evil, which was highly requested by the viewers. While reviewing these games, he avoided the issues Rolfe had covered as much as he could (the fact that AVGN didn't get too far in some of these games helped a lot, since JdG had a lot to say about these games' later levels). Also, some of the more obscure games (like Dark Castle and Barbie) were reviewed by JdG long before AVGN got to them. Fred admitted that he started to look a bit more in the AVGN's repertoire around 2015-16, when it became hard to find interesting bad games — though that's still a minority of the episodes.
    • In his "Bazar du Grenier" Let's Plays, he has received some flack for his Getting Over It with Bennett Foddy video, because he was seen as trying to emulate the average popular let's player, with many random "wacky" video tricks.
  • Unintentional Period Piece: In several of his older videos, he unironically used Internet memes that were popular at the time of their uploads (late 2000s-early 2010s), such as Shoop Da Whoop or parodying the Bref TV series. Due to average meme longevity, these tend to be dated and awkward when viewed again nowadays. Fred himself calls the "Shoop" meme a "time capsule" when looking at it again ten years later. He also embarrassingly looked back at jokes where he'd do a Brief Accent Imitation of an Asian person, and give the excuse that it was "another time".
  • Values Dissonance:
    • In the "Disney ripoffs" episode, he is at shock at a Pocahontas episode where a tribe has their nipples bloodily ripped off by hooked ropes, and finds it gruesome (it is based on the real-life Sun Dance ritual). He reacts by driving to a Buffalo Grill restaurant to kick a totem polenote . While this kind of joke can be seen as funny to his French audience, it would be much more controversial to an actual American audience as Native Americans are considered unacceptable targets nowadays.
    • In his Die Hard Trilogy review, he stops short of joking about the title screen, which shows two towers in flames, saying he has "no politically correct jokes" in store for this one. Three minutes later, he proceeds to do a 9/11 joke anyway. Needless to say, an American audience wouldn't have laughed, but he doesn't have an American audience.
  • The Woobie: The worker played by Fred in the Frostpunk narrative Let's Play. Outside of the fact that he's stuck in a post-apocalyptic world where ice storms have ravaged the world and lives under the leadership of an Overseer of questionable competence, he loses his wife and later his daughter due to decisions made by the Overseer. He also has to put up with his captain's callous insensitivity towards their deaths. The series ends with him silently shooting his leader to death after having crossed the Despair Event Horizon.

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