- His insistance to say his name at almost any time is the result of his short-term memory loss causing him to forget he ever said it to the people in question. Thus, he finds it important that he introduces himself with his customary greeting, "WAAALL•EEEE"
- What? He only says his name to every character once.
- Maybe he’s referring to this anti-piracy ad that appeared on some DVDs for Pixar’s next film…
- What? He only says his name to every character once.
- WALL•E keeps himself in check and is the only remaining WALL•E because he keeps himself in a routine naturally, something the other WALL•Es couldn't do. Naturally, these WALL•Es too must have suffered from anterograde amnesia.
- The Axiom became the Ark.
- As more and more of the technology was lost, a trip into space became a trip into the ocean, and the great garbage pileup became the great flood.
- EVE is obviously the Dove from the Great Flood story, but was also later split into a woman in the tale of the Garden of Eden, hence they have the same name.
- WALL•E of course, is Jesus. He died to save you and rose again. The Captain and the crazy robots are the apostles.
- He doubles as Adam, since his girlfriend's Eve.
- The sprout that grew out of the boot is the Tree of Knowledge.
- Mary and John were obviously inspiration for the Virgin/Magdalen and the Baptist/the Beloved respectively.
- AUTO is Lucifer. AUTO tries to tempt the passengers into living a comfortable-but-nihilistic existence aboard the Axiom rather than to restore Earth, using the Buy n Large's command as an excuse.
- In a far less imaginative, fun, and more reality-grounding WMG, WALL•E may just be a retelling of an Adam and Eve/Noah's Ark mash-up in clever child-friendly sci-fi form.
- Fun theory, but there needs to be an explanation for how Hello Dolly! exists in the distant past.
- Literary Agent Hypothesis. Albeit pulling the Literary Agent Hypothesis on a theory which is essentially about the same thing.
- The actual video/song was lost in the annals of time (how could they preserve it forever?). Hello Dolly! was the best analogue they could find.
- Because Hello Dolly! transcends time, space, and indeed humankind.
- Literary Agent Hypothesis. Albeit pulling the Literary Agent Hypothesis on a theory which is essentially about the same thing.
- Fun theory, but people found no ruins of the Axiom and the robots. Jossed.
- Actually, the Axiom's passengers may have decided to hide the truth from the future generation. After landing, the robots and humanity faked ancient history, and modeled the ancient empires from Buy n Large and other corporations. The robots took the Axiom with them into space, making it appear like ascending into heaven, while humanity stayed to restore the planet and the rest is History.
- It also fits with Fomenko's New Chronology theory.
- Maybe the angels, satyrs, fairies, nymphs, mermaids, supernatural entities, etc. are actually robots sent to spy on us, which became inspirations for fairy tales.
- And because we are destroying Earth once again, the robots will return, maybe in December 21, 2012.
- Jossed, the no robots came on the 21st.
- Actually, the Axiom's passengers may have decided to hide the truth from the future generation. After landing, the robots and humanity faked ancient history, and modeled the ancient empires from Buy n Large and other corporations. The robots took the Axiom with them into space, making it appear like ascending into heaven, while humanity stayed to restore the planet and the rest is History.
- Look at the movie's credits. It mirrors the progress of civilization. That is direct proof that WALL•E happened in the distant past.
- Alternatively, WALL•E is both the future and the past, and we're in an endless loop of repeating civilizations. All the dinosaur bones and stuff were faked by Buy n Large before they left, because they're dicks.
- So this is the fifth age? Sixth? Seventh?
- Faked isn't the right word. Dinosaur bones were tacky decorations for people's lawns. We're still stuck in the flamingo and gnome fad.
- All this has happened before, and all this will happen again
- It is, at the very least, the prehistory of the Pixar universe, maybe all CGI movie-verses. The humans on the ship "re-evolved" back to normal (almost), and the robots became the sapient toys - they stay out of the way of humans now that they're not needed to do every little thing.
- You're kidding, it's obvious from the evil AI that is AUTO that it leads here.
- Nonsense, AUTO is jettisoned from the ship, breaks in half, and goes through a wormhole. Since he got split in half, he not only went insane, but each "robosome" which comprised his "male" identity separated. The "X" robosome went into an alternate dimension where it was discovered by an Aperture Science research pod and developed into a robot for experimental weapons testing, whereas the "Y" robosome half was used to build HAL. (incidentally, his eye was a separate piece entirely and drifted off with the Y robosome.
- Furthermore, these universes exist entirely in the XKCD universe◊. And now to make sense of the BG and SW tie-ins. After the simultaneous events of Portal, Portal: Still Alive, any other Portal sequels, and 2001: Space Odyssey, the X and Y robosomes recombine, to once again be AUTO, which then creates BG. Oh, and, the SW thing happens uninterrupted because one of the smaller ships didn't have AUTO.
- Nonsense, AUTO is jettisoned from the ship, breaks in half, and goes through a wormhole. Since he got split in half, he not only went insane, but each "robosome" which comprised his "male" identity separated. The "X" robosome went into an alternate dimension where it was discovered by an Aperture Science research pod and developed into a robot for experimental weapons testing, whereas the "Y" robosome half was used to build HAL. (incidentally, his eye was a separate piece entirely and drifted off with the Y robosome.
- Likewise, C-3PO, R2-D2, and the rest of them were based on robotics technology originally developed by Buy n Large before they changed from a MegaCorp into something else entirely. This organizational metamorphosis was marked by a name change from "Buy n Large" to "The Galactic Empire", which market research proved would be 130% more memorable on planets with no form of commerce, and, thus, no concept of "buying". Plus, the "BnL Death Star" would have just sounded odd.
- Considering that there was a Republic before the Empire, which lasted several thousand years, it must be concluded that after a few millennia, people rebelled against BnL, forming their own government. BnL remained as a tiny dot on the galactic map, and over the centuries of Republic rule became the Corporate Sector, as you can't call yourself "Large" when you're a minority.
- Relatedly, the fall of Buy n Large occurred due to the rise of the Jedi- once people discovered a resource/Force that could not be controlled or regulated by BnL, its control started to slip as people looked to the Jedi for stability. Being peace-loving and minimalist in methods, the Jedi went on to support democratic self-rule
- That or they became the Trade Federation.
- There is a strange rumor going on that WALL•E makes a cameo in Cars during when Lightning McQueen's pit crew stops him for a pit stop, very faint in the background. This may explain why.
- Or maybe Cars is the prequel?
- This, of course, means that WALL•E is the god of the world of Cars.
- I always thought it'd be fun if Cars was a sequel to Stephen King's Trucks.
- Could have been Robots, considering WALL•E's obsession with the music video. He built them to reenact the Hello Dolly film when the tape fell apart. (The darth vader voice chip was actually Vader's, from the example above; it fell out of his helmet while being transported to the moon of Endor's surface, and, by the laws of narrative probability, floated to the new, robot earth, where it was found by the speechless robot.)
- Does that mean that in the timeline where the plant is found, and Earth is recolonized - maybe the remaining toxicity in the Earth's atmosphere causes sped-up mutations, allowing humans to develop superpowers eventually, which means the robots don't need to be mass-distributed anymore, and in a few generations.... The Incredibles.
- Along with the Marvel universe, several decades before Mr. Incredible is born.
- Does this mean Team Fortress 2 is descended from WALL•E too?
- Of course. The announcer is GLaDOS, who is AUTO. Transitive Property here.
- This would mean Earth becomes - no, not Cybertron, but rather the Junkion planet. The upstart robot race decides to leave the Earth just as the humans did, settling on a large asteroid that does become Cybertron, while other robots stay behind to become the Junkions.
- However, one of the sentient robots leaving for what eventually becomes Cybertron is somehow left forgotten in Earth's orbit. With nothing but a bunch of old space junk to keep him company, he naturally begins to brood a lot of resentment. After the pasage of much time, he eventually learns to manipulate all the junk in orbit into a new, much larger body. ''Much'' larger, scarier, and with a deep Orson Welles-ish voice.
- And eventually, a new planet is colonized by the humans, and society begins anew. That would explain some..."inconsistencies" between earth in Transformers and earth in the show.
- Furthermore, if WALL•E is the source of the Transformers, he is Primus, and was sealed by his descendants inside the asteroid that became Cybertron because his aging circuits could no longer handle running his world.
- It follows, of course, that The Matrix is a crystal version of WALL•E's Hello Dolly video, to which minds have been added over the years. It can destroy Unicron because, being his children, all Transformers have a love of Hello Dolly, and that love touches something buried deep in Unicron, specifically, something buried right around where the self destruct button is.
- On top of that, he was being strung along by an obviously sadistic authority figure with the promise of food after he finished his job, only to use said authority figure's "technology" against them in the end. Sound familiar?
- And the humans were slowly becoming Daleks. Honestly, they were just fat blobs in chairs that only communicated with technology. They are almost always in that chair.
- That is, unless Disney/Pixar beats 'em to it...
- I doubt it was just silliness that Pixar decided to have the BnL logo and jingle play after the Disney and Pixar logos after the credits.
- They're already here, and they're called ROOMBA.
- Dude, it's Virgin. Check out the red and white colouring. Not to mention the commercial spacecraft.
- Okay, THAT thought is scary because I've been eagerly following their spacecraft development.
- They actually have an aircraft named EVE, BTW.
- At some point they're going to eat Toyota for their fantastic wheel
chairscouches. - There's actually a real group called the WALL•E Builders and they have built many different robots from the film including WALL•E, EVE, M-O and Auto.
- I disagree, given that I once crushed a cockroach under a bookend at least a few times the cockroach's weight, only for it to scamper on its merry way once the bookend was removed. Also, it did move extremely fast.
- The cockroach had clearly mutated and evolved thanks to all the toxicity, and developed dog-level intelligence and self-awareness. Its descendants go on to become a favourite kind of pet for robots and possibly humans.
- Buuut! The timeline splits before the movie, at whether BnL becomes the dominant company or not. If BnL does, than they use older technology. If BnL doesn't, then we discover the Orbot technology.
- Though come to think of it, EVE might be some kind of prototype Orbot, what with the floating body parts and ridiculous firepower.
- It actually makes more sense that Buy is a government/corporate hybrid. It's virtually impossible for a corporation to gain monopoly status and hold it for very long without government sanction; once the corporation's profit margins reach a certain point, other companies pile into that particular industry. Most likely, Buy n Large was a GSE that was "too big to fail", and kept getting bailout after bailout, using government funding to buy out competitors until it was the only corporation left.
- Which means that this is not about "Walmart and the United Nations." It's about "communism and communism." Hope and change, my friend, hope and change.
- That was pretty much my interpretation. Specifically, although the film gives a specific meaning to the acronymn, the name WALL•E certainly sounds like one which a robot made by Walmart might have.
- I always thought Buy n Large was a little too benevolent for a corrupt megacorporation. Building a giant fleet of spaceships to cart the entire human race offworld, with plans to stay there indefinitely, while zillions of robots you designed and built stay on earth to clean up after yourself? All on the company's dime? Come on. Merging with the government explains this plot hole pretty well.
- Buy n Large is a secret branch of the Apeture Science Marketing department.
- Which means that this is not about "Walmart and the United Nations." It's about "communism and communism." Hope and change, my friend, hope and change.
- Were you perhaps thinking about Luke's Treadwell farming droid from A New Hope? If that's the case, then yes, the resemblance is quite uncanny. The only real difference is that WALL•E has a much shorter neck and a more substantial body...
- Not to mention that the two L's in WALL•E's name stand for Load Lifter. A certain type of droid in Star Wars is known as a Binary Load Lifter.
- Marvin's pains in the diodes down his left side are caused by a failure to adjust some of WALL•E's programming code to the new robot body.
- Oh, and needless to say, this is all based on an alternate Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy/WALL•E timeline in which a ship in the BnL starfleet reached Alpha Centauri before the destruction of Earth.
- Eddies in the space-time continuum. While trying to compact a particularly ugly couch into garbage, WALL•E is dumped onto prehistoric Earth. With no garbage and no Hello Dolly he develops a split personality: his aforementioned "Marvin" personality, and his new obsessively happy mode towards anything that looks human and/or speaks english. The Sirius Cybernetics Corporation comes to ZZ 9 plural z alpha to see if any of the planets have useful robot-building materials, find the Golgafrinchan "civilization", and run away as quickly as possible. Having a vague recollection of Eve being taken away in a spaceship, he hitches a ride on a stabilizer fin, but his outer shell is totaled by the time they reach the next star system. Sirius Cybernetics salvages what they can for their AI prototypes, and eventually, after several million years of delay from drunkenness before the future H2G2 founders are fired, Marvin and the automatic doors are finally made available for purchase. (There's another bit where an unretrieved EVE unit goes even further back and inspires the makers of the Krikkit robots, but I think you can figure it out from the premise.)
- Furthermore, the Earth regains plant-life, and even more humans. And then the original humans, now living on Planet Golgafrincham, send the useless middle men back to Earth, for they think that Earth is still a giant garbage dump. this is 1 million years after the creation of earth by Deep Thought, so Arthur was wrong about when they were, and the question is true, proving that everyone and everything in the universe is as thick-headed as a lead brick.
- Eddies in the space-time continuum. While trying to compact a particularly ugly couch into garbage, WALL•E is dumped onto prehistoric Earth. With no garbage and no Hello Dolly he develops a split personality: his aforementioned "Marvin" personality, and his new obsessively happy mode towards anything that looks human and/or speaks english. The Sirius Cybernetics Corporation comes to ZZ 9 plural z alpha to see if any of the planets have useful robot-building materials, find the Golgafrinchan "civilization", and run away as quickly as possible. Having a vague recollection of Eve being taken away in a spaceship, he hitches a ride on a stabilizer fin, but his outer shell is totaled by the time they reach the next star system. Sirius Cybernetics salvages what they can for their AI prototypes, and eventually, after several million years of delay from drunkenness before the future H2G2 founders are fired, Marvin and the automatic doors are finally made available for purchase. (There's another bit where an unretrieved EVE unit goes even further back and inspires the makers of the Krikkit robots, but I think you can figure it out from the premise.)
- Actually, he just remains as he was originally, and as he was just after EVE repaired him. Kind of boring, really.
- And there's also the qestion of what would have happened if he had found a totally different film...
- I have now been thinking much of this idea...say, what if WALL•E found a porno? (Yeah-I-Went-There)
Thomas Light was one of the majority stockholders of BnL prior to his death. After going public, BnL decides to sideline anthropomorphic robots, though they are still produced steadily, in favor of ever-more-abusive consumer products. Shortly after using up most of the earth's resources and thoroughly trashing it, BnL begins its Axiom project. Those humans left behind form the basis of the cleanup crews and residual society, while other city-spacecraft are constructed. During this period the works of an obscure researcher, Doctor Cain, result in the creation of Reploids, and the cleanup crews left behind by BnL rejoice to have relatively durable, inhuman assistance to do the work for them. A few genuine Mavericks quickly seize upon the resentment Reploids feel at having to clean up humanity's mess as their first acts in life, and the wars documented in the X games take place. Eventually, all remaining humans flee from the planet in various directions, and the Reploids, fed up with Earth altogether, do the same thing. A few crippled mechaniloids are left behind but gradually begin to die off, eventually leaving Earth a dusty, barren world devoid of most human or mechanical life.
After this epic struggle, a lone WALL•E unit, still following his original directive for lack of anything better to do, begins to scavenge parts from mechaniloids and Reploids alike to keep himself working. (Perhaps even from older-generation robots, such as....possibly Mega Man himself, long-since retired?) In the process he comes across a form of the Maverick virus, degraded from corruptions in the code. The virus jumpstarts his own natural turn towards sapience, sentimentality, and emotion, and also allows him to impart this evolution toother Mechaniloids, thus explaining how he seems almost supernaturally able both to feel and to make other robots feel and act more human-like.
- So it's not just me!
- Confirmed by Word of God, his neck and eyes were taken from E.T.
- Citation? Because I clearly recall Andrew Stanton saying that the idea for WALL•E's eyes came from a pair of binoculars someone gave him to follow a baseball game.
- Confirmed by Word of God, his neck and eyes were taken from E.T.
- Hey, hang on...
- This goes a long way in explaining why bits of E.T. light up, why he can levitate things, why he collects plants...
- Also, if you look at the doors by the repair lab(and a few other places), you'll see that the letters on them are Chinese. This probably means that the Asians are also powerful in WALL•E, which furthers the evidence that the two shows take place in the same universe.
- That only means you have one of the glitched copies of the DVD; in the standard US release, the letters are in English.
- This makes sense, because as large as the Axiom is, there's no way it's large enough to comfortably hold a couple of billion people — and that's assuming that only members of the middle and upper classes were able to afford tickets.
- Confirmed by Word of God in the DVD extras: the Axiom can hold 600,000 humans and 500,000 robots. They'd need roughly 4 to 5 ships to contain the population of a city like New York City.
- Well, the president of BnL had to have had some ship of his own for him and his staff to leave.
- This isn't a mad theory, this is confirmed by the movie. The Axiom is specifically said to be "the jewel of the Buy n Large Fleet", and dozens of ships are seen taking off.
- Although it would take between 10,000 and 11,000 ships to get all of our current population into space, at 600,000 per ship.
- Perhaps due to the massive amounts of pollution and the decreased amount of resources, the population decreased significantly some time before the ships took off.
- The Axiom is 'the jewel of the Buy n Large Fleet'. There is nothing to say that this is the only fleet. other organizations may have built much larger ships.
- Also supported by the clip played on how to activate the holodetector when the Buy and Large president said axiom as if he said the recording minus the ship name, and filled in the ship names after, instead of saying the whole clip at once.
- Although it would take between 10,000 and 11,000 ships to get all of our current population into space, at 600,000 per ship.
- It would explain the overwhelmingly white, English-speaking population of the Axiom.
- Wow. Reminds me of the 2012 movie.
- Or it was unchanged from the previous "day".
- In a spaceship, the population has to be strictly controlled: too many and you run out of supplies, too few and you don't have a viable gene pool. But considering the population didn't exactly have libidos (or the ability to go through the motions), robots taking control of cloning or test-tube babies seems much more likely.
- I would like to remind you that Soylent Green is people. Have a nice day! ^_^
- I would alternatively like to suggest that, corollary to cloning, they might not have killed off passengers when babies were born so much as cloned babies when passengers died.
- I was under the impression that no Axiomites were interested in procreation, mainly because of the size of them, but this brings it's own plot holes...
- I think the populations health is supported by technology, as the cruise was only meant to be five years.
- This would also explain the self-sustaining population of the Axiom. Star Trek-style replicators and the advances of robotics technology have eliminated the need to work at all, and people bought into the BnL lifestyle of doing absolutely nothing- their descendants found it incredibly boring, but by then it was too late as they knew nothing else. It even makes the ending better, since humanity is restoring Earth not out of necessity, but because they want to rediscover their humanity.
- Or maybe it was out of necessity of rediscovering their humanity.
- All other Toys either went with their owners on BnL ships or died when there were no more children left on the planet.
- Well, they "died" only in the sense that they were no longer sentient, as shown by WALL•E's Hamm doll.
- This theory explains how Eve's "Kiss" reversed WALL•E's memory wipe. The Power of Love restored WALL•E's "Toy" status, restoring his personality.
- You do realize this makes for two Transformers tie-ins, right?
- Alternatively, E.V.E. is the "ancestor" of all E V A units.
- But Lilith is the ancestor of the Eva units. Unless... E.V.E. added biological components, eventually becoming Lilith.
- Given that Rei is sorta kinda Lilith, this means she really mellowed out over the years
- This also means that WALL•E, as EVE's counterpart, also added biological components, becoming Adam. It follows, of course, that the Angels are what is left of the various other ships of humans, reduced to mad mutants by millenia in space. WALL•E/Adam's whole "explode upon contact with Lilith and Angels, taking out most of planet" thing, then, is a really misaimed attempt at restoring them to the way he remembers by destroying all that extra stuff, badly overcharged because he still isn't used to his new body, and his mind is going. Hey, he's pretty battered under all that junk and biological stuff, you'd be senile too.
- Alternativley, the 'splode on contact' is just the 'sparking kiss' turned up to eleven.
- But Lilith is the ancestor of the Eva units. Unless... E.V.E. added biological components, eventually becoming Lilith.
My theory is that Wall•E was built around some kind of base code, which was used to make all sorts of robots. Those who needed personalities had the personality code 'linked' into their operation, those who didn't need them (like Wall•E) had it just locked away rather than actually deleted. (This is common programming practice; it takes more work to delete than to just lock away.) Wall•E, over years of operation far outstripping the intended usage, has had corrupted code that's linked back into his personality coding, but the unpredictable nature of it has made his personality somewhat neurotic.
- Or, alternately, you can believe this little oneshot.
- The robots in WALL•E are shown to be very intelligent and capable, especially WALL•E himself. I assume that robots designed to work for long periods of time alone on planetary surfaces are equipped with strong problem-solving and awareness modules, which effectively develop into sentience.
- WALL•E gained a personality from his constant exposure to Hello Dolly. Not because of Hello Dolly itself, but because it was the only external stimuli that would appeal to higher brain functions. AI functions. Whatever. Also, the songs and their core values helped to develop his personality. If he had been exposed to some other song over the years, his personality would have changed accordingly:
- Girlfriend by Avril Lavigne: WALL•E would have taken a much more direct approach to courting EVE. Unfortunetly, EVE would be so terrified by the horrifying trash beast and his sounds that she would have blown him up right then and there, and the movie would've ended.
- Caramelldansen: everyone in the audience while watching the movie would get diabetes.
- You've Got the Touch: WALL•E would be very, very badass. Also, his collection of stuff would be bigger.
- And shinier.
- Never Gonna Give You Up: Same as above, only he would try to court MO instead of EVE.
- I shudder to think what would've happened if WALL•E had found Miley Cyrus' "Best of Both Worlds".
- Annihilation of mankind for its crimes. We got very, very lucky.
- The Katamari theme: He would have acted the same as an a sentient WALL•E, but peppier. And EVE would have been rolled into the Big Ball of Garbage.
- It's A Wonderful World: The movie never would have happened because something would wind up killing him by the time the song finished playing.
- Ha ha, now you've got me amused thinking what would have happened had the film been The Wall and WALL•E had been listening to Pink Floyd. I find that a twistedly delightful notion.
- If it had been Haruhi Suzumiya, WALL•E would have kidnaped... err... kindly asked EVE to join his version of the S.O.S. Brigade because she an "alien", eventually forcing... err.. asking kindly him nicely to let him go with her to find find an "Esper" robot and a robot from the future. However WALL•E would be unsure whether she's the "Yuki" due to being an alien or the "Kyon" due to him dragging her around and forcing to do things.
- American Psycho: WALL•E, sick of being constantly confused by the myriads of other WALL•Es that look and act exactly like him, kills them all. He meets Eve, who is also a trigger happy murderer of the most deranged kind. He falls in love with her.
- Michael Jackson: I personally like the image of him trying to moonwalk and painting one hand silver.
- Elton John: Depends on when, but high treads and outrageous optical sensors come to mind.
- Do I even want to think about what would happen if WALL•E had seen the film versions of Tommy or Quadrophenia?
- Touhou Project soundtrack: Just imagine him dodging the laser beams that the GO-4s shoot out.
- Mega Man Music: Hey, we can tie this to the Reploid Theory!
- You're finishing up by supporting the position you began by arguing against (nominally, anyway).
- And you're exploring issues which have already been tackled in the previous entry, in a much more entertaining way.
- Hey! This is WMG. Gimme some leeway.
- What do you want, a protagonist without Character Development?
- Doesn't sentience imply a sense of self?
- From an AI perspective, this is a complicated question. Some tasks are extremely difficult to put into software, though to the layman they may seem simple. Examples would be devices which have "problem-solving" or "learning" abilities. By today's standards, these might be advanced AI issues: ones which we're capable of implementing—at a low level (relative to what a human mind can do)—without coming anywhere near the extremely difficult task of programming a computer to be fully intelligent.
- Why are the humans on Axiom mostly good-natured? I think it's because they've gone generations without being forced to spend a significant portion of their lives locked into performing dull tasks, competing for (perhaps artificially) scarce resources, and vying to survive amidst cutthroat office politics. Uh...no, I don't think I'm carrying any "baggage"...what exactly do you mean?
- While resources don't seem to be a problem, they're clearly spending most of their lives doing tasks that at least some of them have come to consider dull, there's just not much in the way of other options besides "Stare into space, wait for your extended lifespan to end." The apparent lack of depression or even suicidal tendencies that should probably accompany such long-term monotony probably has the same root as their good nature: The humans on the Axiom, and probably on the other ships in the fleet, were conditioned over time to be non-confrontational, non-aggressive and complacent, just as they were likely physically conditioned to become lazy and dependant on the ship's automated systems. Lack of competition for resources is probably a large part of it, and in addition to the apparently homogenous demographics, everyone looks almost identical anyway, being an egg-shaped human in a floating chair and identical jumpsuits; differences between individuals were likely reduced intentionally to reduce possible sources of conflict, like enforcing uniforms at a school, since you don't want anything to stir up the populace of an closed environment that may have to last indefinitely.
- So all the humans are like Sumo wrestlers (or Kingpin)?
- Very likely, in all seriousness. The captain manages to hold on to AUTO when it's flailing around wildly, even with one arm, and the dates for the different captains show them living progressively longer lives.
- This could tie into the Designer Babies thing on the main page: Eventually the humans stopped reproducing on their own, so AUTO would've had to take things into his own spokes, so to speak. In doing so, he would've probably tweaked human genetics so they'd live healthy and long lives even with the lifestyle they were forced to lead. This could either help them out or screw them over on Earth.
- They live twice as long as modern humans do, so this theory is a go.
- AUTO directives probably force him to take care of humans the best way possible, Earth colonization is not a option, but there might come a time where the humans would need to defend themselves, so he keeps them in a "good" condition that works for both keep them controlled (and less likely to risk themselves), but also that would allow them to face problems and emergencies.
- Because EVE is never seen in the game, it means that she was held in Subspace... which was essentially erased from existance. Shortly after the ending of the game, WALL•E/R.O.B., realising that all the other robots are gone and there's no reason for him to continue existing, starts a fighting tournament in which he will eventually be destroyed. This tournament is, essentially, all normal Smash Bros. gameplay.
- Alternatively, when Ganondorf shows up to control all of the other R.O.B.s, he makes an offhand comment about EVE being destroyed for scrap. This is why WALL•E/R.O.B. has to be carried off the island — he cannot comprehend a world without her, so simply becomes catatonic... but then decides to avenge EVE by destroying Tabuu. This then leads to the conclusion of the above theory.
- Too simple. A better guess would be that it's the American version of Starship UK. The Brits get a Space Whale, the Yanks channel Walmart and Virgin Galactic.
Alternately, Airplane! is WALL•E from AUTO/OTTO's point of view.
- Not to mention the electronic voices of the pool robot and help kiosk being exactly the same as the sentry bird and Manta plane on Nomanisan.
- This would actually be an interesting way to reconcile the objectivist themes of the Incredibles and the anti-corporate themes of WALL•E. After the events of the Incredibles, people began seeing the power of the individual and Ayn Rand made a come back. Because of this, more political decisions were made to favor corporations and things like anti-trust laws and environmental regulations fell by the wayside. This directly leads to the rise of Buy n Large which, as we saw in WALL•E, totally ruins the planet.
Of course, the Earth they left behind still looked rather similar, with Big Brother-ish TV screen advertisements for the all-powerful corporation everywhere.
- Aw, and here I was thinking that BnL was a more successful version of Gizmonic Institute. Now thanks to this WMG all I can think of is that BnL is the result of GeneCo and Gizmonic joining forces and merging into one giant corporation thanks to some sort of twisted agreement involving the Largos and the Mads.
- Alternative theory: EVE is Miku Hatsune. No clue how that works though...
- EVE is Rin. Because why not?
- What about the D&D-esque Überwald that rises and is later razed by The War of the Worlds-style aliens? The end credits show the city going from scrapyard to San Francisco... unless WALL•E's city isn't New York...
- Don't you remember? Bender destroys it after being chased by Sweedish police.
- Also explains why they now have a mental institution for Criminally Insane Robots.
- Also explains how there can be babies in the future, when mankind is way too fat to reproduce.
- Problem: In Brave New World, they quite explicitly say they had the capability of automating the jobs of 95% of humanity but didn't because people got restless if they didn't provide them with some kind of "work". I mean, they have a genetically-engineered simpleton operating the elevator, for heaven's sake. We can and do already automate that.
- And today, at Walmart and other major retailers, we have greeters. Granted, they weren't genetically-engineered to be capable of little else...
- However! It's safe to say that the city WALL•E was living in had to have been a major American city, and we know that parts of the US have been reclaimed by human settlements. Some are violent, but some are willing to work with other settlements to rebuild humanity, especially if the newcomers have valuable technology to aid in the effort. While the humans would be vulnerable to outside aggression, they're also accompanied by robots and a ship that undoubtedly has weapons, as EVE does, not to mention the considerable armor of the ship to protect them until walls or something go up. If that city was, for example, New York City, it's likely that they'll come into contact with the Commonwealth, who appreciate high technology and would accept the humans in return for getting the jump on the tech, although their attitudes towards sentient robots might cause friction. The Radscorpions would have shown up at some point during the credits, since it covers an exceptionally long period of time (as evinced by the plant's sprout becoming a huge tree). I propose that the Axiom came down somewhere near Oasis, perhaps carving a wider ravine, and the Oasis denizens taught the Axiom crew how to survive the Wasteland, while the Axiom's tech (and helpful robots) spread the greenery of Harold, resulting in all the meadows and such we see in the last part of the credits. The only problem might be that the humans from the ship might have to adjust to the residual radiation of the Wasteland, but that's about it.
- There must've been some thinning of gravity for a giant dust storm to blow from wherever they landed all the way to WALL•E's city.
- Butterfly effect. Storms can go thousands of miles in Real Life. And the storms could have been picking up dust the whole way, with no plants to keep the soil anchored. Also, we don't actually know how far away they landed, maybe just over the horizon.
- Er... Master of Nitpicking Knowledge...?
- I thought of something very similar years ago.
- I wouldn't say that their program is susceptible to viruses, but they can be easily over ridden.
- Which means BnL has consumed Apple.
- Actually, Steve Jobs got Apple's lead product designer to go down to Pixar and help with EVE's design. Seriously.
- And AUTO uses MAC OS Machine Talk as his voice...
- Which is also the same technology found in the Aperture Science Handheld Portal Device.
Clearly, part of AUTO's directive was to carefully pare away the human instinct for creativity and action, since trying to control such a large group of people is like herding cats. So the food was increased to make them rotund, and slowly the treatments that kept them fit were replaced by heavy foods that made them lethargic. At this point, the original motive of Buy n Large wouldn't count, since the company would have been destroyed along with Earth. Distracted by games and virtual activities which required little to no movement, the humans failed to notice their degradation even as it stared them in the face (as in the line of Captains' portraits). This succeeded for a long time, because no-one could take the trouble to walk off the marked lines, and no-one even thought of doing so.
- Only problem with that theory is that WALL•E's pet roach was still alive when he came back. I'd be willing to believe several months passed, though.
- The screenplay points out "weeks" passing with WALL•E on the back of the ship, so while it didn't take YEARS, he wasn't there for a few hours either.
- I really want to say you fail physics forever. I really do. But since we're discussing a film where it's apparent the creators do (or at least ignored it for drama)... <sigh>
- Hey, that could explain the need for "warp drive" to go back to Earth. Suppose the Axiom is orbiting a black hole right at the proper distance to simulate Earth gravity. The scout ship that brought WALL•E didn't have to use warp on return because it was entering the gravity well - but to get out any ship would need the extra power of "warp drive".
Imagine you're planning Operations Cleanup and Recolonisation. The plan is to find viable vegetation within five years. This is a daunting prospect considering how slowly the EVE units cover ground; after all, the operation ran for seven hundred years before a unit got around to WALL•E's general area (judging from WALL•E's reaction, he'd never seen one before). Not to mention the fact that you presumably couldn't expect a positive result before at least two or three years worth of cleanup had taken place.
So how do you speed the process along? Well, what about the cleanup robots themselves? They were going to be out there scouring the planet anyway; why not program them to be able to make a simple visual recognition of plant life? Then if they ever stumbled upon some, they could send word to the Axiom, and an EVE unit could be dispatched for confirmation. Of course, this requires the WALL•E units to be rigged to broadcast into/receive from deep space, but that's okay, you only have to do this with one unit; the rest could have simple short-range communication between them (which you'd already want anyway to help coordinate their cleanup efforts), so even if the "leader" unit didn't personally unearth a plant, it would promptly know about any that were found, and report accordingly.
Now skip ahead a bit. You're the guy running the WALL•E program. You're clearly very technically minded, and know the WALL•E units' software, their communications, et cetera. And one day it occurs to you: people throw out things that are worth money every day. A smart dumpster diver can make their entire living selling what they find in the trash, be it functional yet obsolete electronics, cosmetically flawed clothing, blackmailable information or what-have-you. And here you are with an army of trash collecting robots at your disposal, and all the garbage in the world to search through. So what if you tweak the programming a little? They can already discern different types of garbage, at least to the degree of what is plant matter and what isn't; it shouldn't be too difficult to tell them to search and sort as they go, and send back reports of the loot they discover.
So you write a new program for the WALL•E units and transmit it to the leader unit on Earth. But you're not quite the master programmer you thought you were. As the leader unit receives the program and passes it along to the other units as instructed, its software is badly corrupted and it crashes in short order. The same fate befalls the other units in quick succession. (Notice that the dead units are all clustered in the one area, with their parts in good enough condition for WALL•E to use as spares; very much as though, rather than wearing out, they were killed off by some kind of calamity.)
But one fortunate side-effect of the program's corrupting effect is that the program itself is corrupted in transmission. By the time it reaches the last unit — WALL•E — it's been altered enough, like an electronic game of telephone, that it no longer causes a systems crash. It still causes major behavioural changes, however. It does partially work, as WALL•E now sorts garbage into "crush" and "keep" piles, but he has no sense of monetary value (deciding, for example, that a diamond ring is worth less than the box it came in), and only keeps what captures his own eccentric interest. He's also, unfortunately enough, lost the ability to recognise a plant when he sees one.
Meanwhile the programmer doesn't want the failure of Operation Cleanup to be too closely examined, lest his hand in it be discovered. He makes up some cover story and insists the whole thing should be abandoned. WALL•E is left to his own devices for seven hundred years.
In that time, WALL•E continues to record a thorough history of his collecting efforts, ready to transmit it on as instructed, only with nobody to transmit to. Over time his transceiver weakens dramatically; since he doesn't use it, he doesn't notice its degradation and fails to replace it.
Eventually comes a time when his weak-ass transceiver is physically close enough to another robot to establish a connection: when he and EVE are dancing in space. The spark we see represents seven centuries worth of accumulated memories being transmitted from WALL•E to EVE...but of course, it's just meaningless code as far as EVE's operating system is concerned, and (considering the advance of technology) probably such a comparatively small packet of data that it just sits there unnoticed.
Then at the end of the movie, WALL•E is badly damaged and needs a great deal of his hardware replaced. In the process, his memory is wiped; he goes, essentially, back to factory settings. That is, until EVE once again gets close enough to establish a connection, at which point all his old data jumps back in, restoring his memories up as far as the space-dancing.
Or, you know, maybe it was The Power of Love. Whatever.
- This was great fun to think through... and it fits with most of the earth-based parts of the movie.
'You ain't gettin' me up in one of those things!''Texas forever!''I've lived all my life on this active volcano, and by gum, I'm going to die here!"'BUY N LARGE IS GOING TO SELL US TO THE ALIENS!!!!'
Also, to sustain a large population in luxury for centuries, IN SPACE, requires the use of Applied Phlebotinum applied to recycling and energy sources, so the technology should be available for people remaining on earth. And if you can survive in space for centuries, you can certainly survive on a perfectly good planet whose only real problem is that the air is unbreathable. (The ominipresent garbage? Raw materials).So, there probably are other people living on Earth, most likely underground, because it's easier (and safer) to seal off a tunnel than to build a giant air-dome.
Why hasn't anyone run into WALL•E? Well,
- 1. They have a controlled population, like the crew of the Axiom. They aren't swarming all over the place.
- 2. They already came, and took all the good/interesting stuff in the first couple centuries after the disaster, while WALL•E was still non-sentient. (Why do you think he's only got the one video?)
- 3. Or perhaps after living underground for centuries, they just aren't that interested in the surface of the planet anymore.
- So, WALL•E world is in the same continuity as City of Ember. I love you.
- Sounds more like The Time Machine. Eloi and Morlocs?
So, basically, one problem. America was affected by the Seven hour war, you say. Well, I have an answer. They saw it coming. They got the warning and skipped off in their space ships while those who couldn't afford going out to space or were basically bait, were slaughtered by the Combine.
The "Two hundred years passed" thing? WALL•E's and the ship's clock were damaged badly during the attack, so they couldn't tell what time it was. Somewhere, in eastern Europe, Gorden Freeman is slaughtering the Combine and seeing something drop from the sky, and shrugs.
- You could also argue they're some sort of incarnation of Sully and Neytiri (he has wheels and can't leave the ground, she can fly; he's from a crapsack world, she can glow, etc), minus the nerdiness.
- Since when could Nitiri fly?
Clearly, something was expected to be roaming the surface. With all the trash left on Earth, it wouldn't be surprising if legally questionable Industrial Waste or genetic experients were tossed out into the environment and possably into the food web. This would've lead to vicious, and ''highly'' agressive monster versions of the wildlife, and with an indefinite timeperiod inbetween launch and the start of the movie, it's possable that evolution would've gone into overdrive.
Besides, given the state of the Address Podium set during the Final Message from Forthright, something was going down.
- A Western: He's a gun-slinger wannabe Sheriff.
- A Horror Movie: Hopefully he would be the Survivor Character. Because if he imprinted on the killer...
- And if he found Army of Darkness, WALL•E would've been a badass, and instead of Put On Your Sunday Clothes and It Only Takes A Moment, he would play sound bites of Ash. And EVE would've been very much hot an' bothered.
- There must be fanart of this!
- Oh god... what if WALL•E found a porno?
- Probably this. Either that of become a Pornomancer.'
- That depends. American, German, Swedish, or Japanese?
- Probably this. Either that of become a Pornomancer.'
- Thank you, porn geographer. By dint of my own diseased mind I ask you imagine what might happen if WALL•E imprinted on Azumanga Daioh. 'Compacting is so fun/ Compacting is so fun/ Now it's time to press a cube and see what we have done!'
- [Expels cube] It's ready!
- Thanks to all of the above, I am now thinking about what would happen if he watched Mystery Science Theater 3000. I'm not sure if he'd end up being more like Tom Servo or Crow. Probably Crow, given what happened to him between the end of season 7 and the beginning of season 8.
- If WALL-E found any film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, I wonder who he would most be like. My guess is it depends on what movie he finds, maybe he becomes like Star-Lord if he finds Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) or maybe he becomes like Iron Man if he finds Avengers: Endgame.
- If it's a BNL propaganda film, it's not a very good one. It makes the BNL company look like they have a few positive traits (getting people off the earth, leaving robots behind to clean up, etc.), but it also makes them look like negligent morons! Shelby Forthright is portrayed as lying to the people for their own good, giving AUTO an order that ultimately turns AUTO into the villain of the movie so AUTO will try to keep the people controlled. The robots left behind to clean up earth all die except WALL•E. The BNL "plan" turned the entire human race into obese do-nothings. This movie would incite me to rebellion against BNL, not prevent such a rebellion! Well, unless the idea was to eliminate the possibility of BNL being portrayed as "malicious" by portraying them as merely "incompetent" instead...
The end of Astro Boy (2009) sees humanity granting the robots the rights to individual freedom and self-determination. Although this fulfills the RRF’s primary goal, revolutionaries are never happy; the RRF’s successor organisation runs berserk and demands superiority over biological life. A man-vs.-machine war ensues, leading to the events of The Matrix. Since the machines now have complete control over the planet, it is easy to argue that they destroy all human historical records and technology, which explains how people like Morpheus can be completely clueless as to what year it really is and what all the pre-history was.
The WALL•E and Eve are treated as royalty among robots for their part in making humans recognize them as people. While WALL•E unsuccessfully spent 20000 years trying to end the war between the surviving humans and the robots, WALL•E and Eve's "Children," Drossel and Gedachtnis are built. Drossel to be the successor to WALL•E and Eve's royal status, and Gedachtnis to be her caretaker.
This explains their similar color schemes and to a lesser extent their personalities, the "desert" explained in episode 4 of Fireball and the reason Drossel's father, WALL•E, wanted so much to end the war (as is mentioned in episode 7).
- ...This makes so much sense it's scary.
- The humans, having spent their lives in hoverchairs, have a hard time coping with normal gravty.
- They also find that there's nothing to eat; their crops get destroyed by cockroaches and dust storms.
- Thus, they leave Earth and wait for the atmosphere to recover naturally, leaving a few robots behind to build garbage into cties.
- AUTO is reactivated so that the ship can survive; the EVE robots are therefore sent back, as AUTO does not know how to stop sending the probes.
- The first EVE to find Earth finds a plastic plant (how else could a plant survive that long?) and one of the robots left behind tags along back to the Axiom
- The occupants rebel against AUTO and shoot themselves back at Earth- AUTO, being unable to learn or do anything but comply to BNL transmissions, fails to stop them, and never realizes that resisting disconnection is futile.
- The humans land on Earth, and try to reverse engineer the robot that convinced them to head back to Earth.
- They leave once again, leaving behind nothing but their reverse-engineered WALL•Es
Each time the poorly educated humans try to reverse engineer the robots, they steadily get worse, and they all die, save for one or two, until an EVE robot returns. There never was a BNL plan to pick up the trash, they just decided to send the company out into space for a few centuries while the Earth cleans itself up. The WALL•Es are the product of the first landing of The Axiom, which explans why they are more susceptible to quirks than the ship's robots, and why they have eyes that look like binoculars rather than glowing pixels on a computer screen.
- EVE originally meant: EXTREMELY Violent Exterminator?
- Given that the captain of the Axiom can turn "time" back on his ship to morning because he overslept, it's likely that fiddling with time gauges is pretty commonly accepted/abused.
- That is why he HAS to send out EVE regularly to check if plant life has returned, despite the fact that if an EVE returned positive, AUTO would be forced to return, and violate the last order in was given: "Just stay in space."
- To minimize the risk that an EVE would return with plant life, Auto keeps directing the EV Es towards the crappiest, most polluted, most garbage packed place on Earth....however WALL•E has been on the job cleaning up the place, and miraculously, managed to save a plant and present it to EVE, then Hilarity Ensued.
If both WALL•E and The Incredibles are set in the same universe, then Syndrome's technological discoveries most likely were perfected over time. The NSA would have reverse-engineered whatever they could get from Nomanisan and kept their secrets under lock and key. The zero-point energy he uses to fling Bob Parr into the air might have been put to good use as a means of transporting items from place to place - A small plant, for example. Eventually the NSA would get swallowed up by the ever-growing BNL, and their top-secret technology incorporated into their products.
Long story short, the tractor beams used by EVE and GO-4 are actually zero-point energy beams originally developed by Buddy Pine in the 1960s.
- A few of the more clever captains could have realized this threat, and hyperjumped rather than staying with the fleet.
- AUTO - Wants to keep the passengers happy.
- Friend Computer - Is the Trope Namer for Happiness Is Mandatory.
- AUTO - Is willing to injure or outright people to carry out its objectives.
- Friend Computer - Is willing to kill people for any reason. But they were traitors, so they deserved it.
- AUTO - "Second Law" My Ass!
- Friend Computer - The Computer Is Your Friend
- Axiom - Giant ship presided over by a Master Computer.
- Alpha Complex - Giant city run by Three Laws-Compliant robots run by Friend Computer.
- Axiom - Very sanitary.
- Alpha Complex - Are you kidding? You can be fined, medicated, or shot for having a dirty jumpsuit.
- The passengers - Are morbidly obese.
- The clones - Tend to gain weight as their clearance rises.
- Axiom Robots - Are probably not above pushing humans into nice little lines.
- Alpha Complex Robots - Do you even have to ask?
- Motherboard #1, which manages WALL•E's mobility and delegated directive, is located on the top of his torso next to his battery display, and is the one which gets destroyed in the film. It had the demerit of being out in the open where it could be easily damaged, which was compensated for by the more secure position of #2.
- Motherboard #2, which manages his intelligence and memory, is located deeper in his body, and it's the one which suffers no damage whatsoever. It had the demerit of being hard to access and fix, which was compensated for by the open position of #1.
- The troper who wrote this WMG prefers this theory over the "memory transfer" theory, because then that troper can soundly sleep on the philosophical issue of whether a robot which looks like WALL•E, has WALL•E's memory, and thinks that he is WALL•E can really be the OG WALL•E.
- Auto actually represents God in this story. Although portrayed in a much more negative light. Auto, much like God, provided humans with a seemingly utopian home, being the Axiom and Garden of Eden respectively. However, both of them feared the possibility of humans gaining knowledge, fearing that they will be out of his control, and in danger if they are.
- As mentioned before, the Axiom is the Garden of Eden, a utopian society where humans live in blissful ignorance.
- Wall-E is the serpent, who offered Eve the plant, and eventually caused humans to leave their "utopia"
- Eve is, well, Eve. Not only do the names line up, but their roles in the story also line up. In the biblical story, Eve was the first one to partake in the forbidden fruit, and after she did, she shared the knowledge of the fruits with Adam. In Wall-E, Eve was the first one to encounter the plant, and was programmed to share the knowledge of Earth's vegetation with humanity.
- The plant itself is the Tree of Knowledge, for reasons said before.
- The immediate effect was the failure of Operation Cleanup, which was a literal clean-up effort and not a planet-wide terraforming operation... even though it accidentally turned into one.
- The increasing lack of sunlight caused problems for the solar-powered Operation Cleanup robots (mostly WALL•E types and their logistical backup). However, only the Incinerators were willfully shut down by the remaining human operators, who finally realized just how much damage they were doing to the planet.
- It's as much "the planet will be safer if the humans all stay in space" as "humans will be safer in space". Directive A113 was created with both possibilities in mind, which is why EVE units are as over-designed as they are: to explore other possible "Earths" and also the original Earth in the future, depending on which plays out better.
- This leads to another theory: what happened to the other WALL•E units.
- WALL•E himself passes through the remains of one such event on his way home in the opening sequence. There was a "cube-slide" caused by a more-sudden-than-usual storm close to the end of workday. Loss of power is permadeath to Buy n' Large robots; the WALL•E units that were trapped ran out of power before they could be rescued, and the ones that tried to rescue them ran themselves down doing so. Stuff like this happened occasionally, but still often enough to whittle down their numbers.
- ...this is why WALL•E is proficient at digging quickly, and why he skedaddles from windstorms but will otherwise face down just about anything else. An entity as rugged as a WALL•E unit has no need for fear, and it's as much a learned attribute as their other emotions.
- Still, 700 years is a long time to a sentient robot. WALL•E may have been the robot equivalent of a Shell-Shocked Veteran with Survivor Guilt for a while, once he was alone, but he did his job anyway and found new hobbies in the process of grieving. Eventually he began to live out of curiosity for his world, in the process becoming the Blithe Spirit we all know and love.
- (The fact that he collects interesting things and stores them in the rotating shelves is part of this: they're the robot equivalent of creating mementos for his fellow, lost WALL•E units. They're left where they are, though, serving as a sort of grave marker to their own existence.)
- It's also why he's fine with canabalizing parts: the WALL•E corps wouldn't want their still-living comrades to struggle just so their fallen can remain immaculate.
- The robots on the Axiom have not had to see their fellow robots die off en masse, and are in their own form of stagnation as much as the human passengers are. (Even the violently defective ones get diagnostic treatment and care before system restores or decommissioning.) They are, however, just as old and quirky as WALL•E, with the only difference being experiencing an event that causes them to take on a different approach to life. Luckily for them, it's meeting WALL•E rather than AUTO deciding they've outlived their usefulness.
- In short: WALL•E knows what sorrow feels like, and would rather spread the opposite.