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All Myths Are True means that none of them are true.
As Riordan's series continue to develop, we see that more and more of the various cosmologies, be they Greek, Roman, Egyptian, or Norse, all exist in some fashion, complete with their component gods and otherworldly locales. This creates some noticeable issues when various cosmologies overlap, such as Norse mythology and Greek mythology both having their own thunder gods, their own separate afterlives, and so on. On top of that, we see that the gods' forms are mutable, that they change their appearance and demeanors to reflect the modern age, as opposed to what they were originally. This suggests that, contrary to popular belief, it is the humans who created the gods and it is human belief that both sustains and shapes their existence. The gods don't actually exist in and of themselves, but are born from the collective consciousness of humanity itself.
  • This has been hinted at, actually. First - in Battle of the Labyrinth, Tyson and Briares explain that supernatural being fade away if no one remembers them. Then, in Last Olympian, Dionysus tells Percy that the gods are simply manifestations of human culture. In the Kane Chronicles it's even stated that the physical and supernatural worlds both exist - which could only be true if the latter is a thoughtform. This could be viewed as the Myth Master's view of the supernatural in general, but can also count as Nightmare Fuel: the gods are not just Breaking the Fourth Wall, they are able to convince the humans that THEY'RE the fictional characters and the gods are their creators. As if the Tomato in the Mirror scenario wasn't enough, the gods can KILL humans that displease them. Imagine if Deadpool decided to kill Stan! Oh, Crap!, I gave him an idea!
  • Problem with this theory is that The Greek Gods do not necessarily need human memory to sustain their existence. The Titans are pretty much fine without human worship, not to mention Gaea, Tartarus and other primordial gods are certainly not fading any time soon. The Egyptian Gods are described as being differently than the Greek Gods, being "primordial forces" and are still pretty much strong after being being purposedly banished and forgotten by the House of Life itself. Besides this is a place with gods and magic, it doesn't have to make sense at all.
  • Actually, even if these gods were not being worshiped, their names are still studied by scholars even today. So it is possible that the collective unconscious might also include historical and mythological references, and maybe even as far as popular culture (i.e. tv shows and movies).
Future series
After Magnus Chase and the Gods of Asgard, the Myth Master may write:
  • Age of Aztecs, an Aztec series starring Leo and Calypso. The series will reveal that Leo is descended from an Aztec deity which is why Sammy could touch Hazel's diamond without being cursed. Smoking Mirror would have... whatshisname... Taco Man trying to take over as the sun fails (due to a lack of sacrifices). Feathered Serpent would deal with the return of Quetzalcoatl with Leo and Calypso having to choose between him and Tezcatlipoca in the looming battle between the two before they decide to Take a Third Option. Chained Jaguar(or Earthquake Sun) will have them joining the remaining Toatl in an attempt to stop the End of the World as We Know It For Real This Time.
  • A series dealing with the Slavic myths. The first book would deal with the disappearance of Yarilo and the quest to find him before Perun and Veles go to war (I'm betting Morana or maybe Mrazik will be behind it) while the second book will deal with the aftermath (Perun, Svarog/Dazbog and Veles seeking vengeance on whoever kidnapped Yarilo in the previous book) and the final book with the vengeful gods being revealed to have turned evil and deciding to Take Over the World.
  • A Cherokee trilogy starring Piper and unfortunately I know nothing about Cherokee mythology whatsoever so I can't make any suggestions about these books.
  • A Sumerian series with Tiamat as a/the villain.
  • A Chinese mythology series featuring everyone's favourite shapeshifter taking on evil demons after being trained by dragons.
    • Or a crossover between Chinese Mythology and Voodoo.
    • Or a war between Chinese and Japanese Gods break out in the east and thus our heroes (both new for the series and old ones) have to stop the war or else World War 3 will begin.
  • A Crisis Crossover between all the previous series (including the above suggestions) with a Big Bad Ensemble of the main villains of Magnus Chase and the Gods of Asgard and all of the above, as well as Tartarus and Nyx. Also, the deities of each mythology facing off against each other.
    • Alternatively, have the last series be the Indian mythologies (Hinduism, Jainism, Buddism and others) where Vishnu seeks aid from the heroes of past series. Reason is because Kali (the Demonic Source of All Evil, not the Goddess) had gathered the villains of past series together and has already taken down the Devas (Indra and the other gods). Our Heroes must team up each other and the remnants of the Indian mythologies to finally defeat their foes for good. All the while trying not to fight each other as it is revealed that the Kali Yoga is reaching its end.
  • It's either gonna be Aztec, Shinto, or Vodou.

    Many different belief systems powered the revolution of the planets and stars. Wolves would still chase Sol across the sky. Ra would continue his daily journey in his sun barque. Tonatiuh would keep running on his surplus blood from human sacrifices back in the Aztec days. And that other thing—science—would still generate gravity and quantum physics and whatever.
    • The Aztec actually get three mentions. The first time in The Lost Hero During a flashback to the days when Hera was posing as his babysitter, Leo recalls her saying something about "your Aztec ancestors' The second time in The Hidden Oracle, shown above, and most recently in The Hammer of Thor Magnus' narration states "If someone told me the Aztec gods were alive and well and living in Huston and my second-cousin was the granddaughter of Quetzalcoatl, I'd believe it."

  • King Arthur and the Matter of Britain are probably the most well-known mythos after the three he's done. Although as cool as modern day Knights of the Round Table would be, Rick might end up not doing it since it doesn't have any gods involved.
    • I'm sure he isn't aware of some people's complaints and might go 'huh, let's mix it up'.

  • Celtic Mythology will be the next one, as it's the biggest Western Pantheon left and King Arthur could be incorperated that way, as it's not much a stretch to go from Cu Cuhanin to The Knights of The Round Table.

If there are other pantheons, they're going to have vastly different circumstances.
For example, the Hindu gods certainly weren't going to be going anywhere. Neither were the Japanese gods, for example. In addition, some pantheons formed coalitions, such as the African and Native American pantheons. The Slavic gods are a unique case; they went into hiding after the Communists took power in Russia, then came back out during the end of the Cold War.

Jesus will eventually show up.
Given that Thor actually challenged Jesus to a fight, and He never showed up, it does seem like Jesus does exist here, as well as the Abrahamic God. I would imagine the Egyptian pantheon are downright terrified of Him, after the whole Exodus thing. So, it would stand to reason Jesus could make an appearance, maybe a cameo. If He does have a major role, it could be by preventing an all out war between the various pantheons.
  • I don't know. That seems like it could be controversial, with the Christians being mad at whatever Jesus would be like, and us fans unwilling to hold our suspension of disbelief, seeing him directly on the page. Though it would be cool if an adaptation of the Kane Chronicles had that kind of Exodus joke.

The Rick Riordan Presents books, while not planned to be canon, will be incorporated over time

Hello Constantine. Canon Welding is simply likely, particularly if fan demand for it becomes clear enough.

  • Given that John Henry's hammer on the cover of Tristan Strong has engravings that do not seem typical of the John Henry story, and resemble the engravings shown on Thor's hammer (who in Rick's series is his father), this may be coming to pass.
  • Not to mention that the Storm Runner Trilogy nd it's planed Mayan sequel have a similar narrative style to the Percy Jackson books and the Kane Chronicles. And that they don't seem to contradict anything in he current mythos. they almost complement it without any overt mentions.
  • Aru Shah and the End of Time is centered around Hindu mythology, which surprising has The Multiverse as one concept. Maybe that could be how?

There will eventually be a mortal main character.
We've had a god as main character, who's arc was about being humbled and learning how to be human. I can see an opposite of that story happening. For example:There will be prophecy that says to bring along an unknown character who after initially being taught to be demigod, is revealed to be just a regular mortal. It would make an interesting arc where they deal with being dragged into world that isn't even their own and struggle to be as useful as the demigods on the quest , who will most likely be either condescending or over protective, rather than a burden, leading to feelings of inferiority, before finding their own strength and self-worth.

In the Riordanverse, God (who has been alluded to exist in it) is Rick Riordan himself

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