Also, I can't be the only person who's noticed that clockwork majyyks handed out by LE to his minions are essentially a pallette swap of the elderitch magics used by Rose with her Thorns of Ologoth, right? It was especially obvious when we saw child!handmaid do it with her cuestick-needlewands. And hussie entertained the possibility of magic guns back when he was working on Wizard Herbert, the story which would later influence Rose's Complacency of the Learned. Hmmmmm..
I'm going to bet that, assuming Gamzee doesn't come and ruin everything, that the prototyping patterns will be reversed between them as well. Either a Mutiecat or the GCat will end up in Roxy's kernelsprite, followed by her realself or dreamself. Meanwhile, the ashes of Grandma Jade will fall into Jake's kernelsprite. This will make everyone wary of prototyping Jake, due to Jane's experience with Tavriskasprite and the horrors of double-prototyping different people. Meaning that Jake, if dead upon entry as predicted, will have to be revived through another method. Perhaps with clockwork voodoos, creating a x2 callback combo to both Grimdark Rose and Rainbow Drinker Kanaya (who Doc Scratch implied he had a hand in reviving)?
- Meaning that pre-Scratch Mom was never really an alcoholic? SHOCKING.
- Not sure how that follows. Rose obviously was not buying Mom's liquor pre-Scratch.
- There might be some confirmation of this in how class/aspect powers work. If you recall Rose's conversation with Doc Scratch, he implies that she possessed her abilities before even entering the game, and that the tools that she thought "granted" her those powers really didn't do anything beyond letting her feel comfortable with using said powers. In this case, the faux-alcohol would be serving that purpose.
- Then again, so could real alcohol.
- Pretty sure this is jossed. UU revealed that, in her theory at least, the drunker Roxy is the more her void powers are held back. The reason why UU and uu can't skip to a point in time after the session starts to view the kids is because Roxy is completely sober, thus her void powers are in full effect. Kind of a lame way to put an end to this, but I don't think "mind over matter" would work on something related to the game, especially something Roxy didn't even realize she was doing in the first place.
- It's possible it contains something else that would inhibit Void powers. What probably josses it more is the earlier revelation that Roxy's "mom" lived hundreds of years before her and that Roxy is one of only two humans in existence in her timeframe and so probably would not have gotten any peer pressure from anybody.
- Sorta Confirmed? In Act 6, Roxy once thought she was still drunk and realized that she wasn't drunk. So this theory may very well be true.
- On a related note, perhaps running out of alcohol will also lead to Roxy either 1) going Grimdark or 2) realizing her Void powers (or both, really, since she'd probably need the Void attribute without the Horrorterrors to do the work for her)? Because a moment of "why is the rum gone?" leading to her descent would be amusing, that's why.
- Dirk is a far more likely candidate given his already shown instability and having Cal nearby.
- Cal has been lost for starters, and what do you mean his "already shown instability"? He actually appears to be the most stable character at this point, unless I missed something...
- Dirk is a far more likely candidate given his already shown instability and having Cal nearby.
- This troper just realized Jane's English helmet makes him look like the Masked Man of Mother 3. Hello, Whole-Plot Reference.
- Hussie has never played Mother 3.
- Hello Tricksters!
Now look at all their known chumhandles.
The Terror of Golgatha will kill the Ecto-Biologist, and will make him into a Ghosty Trickster. See? Symbolism!
- Yeah, but who has the initials "JC" here? Jane Crocker.
- Jake will kill Jane... in order for her to go god-tier.
- Jane will die... so that everyone else can live.
- This troper doesn't think that Jane will be killed by Jake - at least, not peremently. Alpha!Jack Noir tried killing her, and in the end, she did the lifey thing and came back to life.
- Jake will kill Jane... in order for her to go god-tier.
- Throw in a gull and call it a day.
- Tenatively jossed, as the Alpha Session seemingly won't be able to Prototype.
- Pre-entry, probably not. Post-entry? Who knows...
- Tenatively jossed, as the Alpha Session seemingly won't be able to Prototype.
- Considering how Davesprite is described in Act 6 Intermission 2, this is looking rather likely.
- Confirmed, although it's difficult to call A Rquiusprite a full-blown expy of Davesprite.
- There's an abundance of unusual strife specibi that nonetheless can make multiple weapons; 2x3dentKind and 1/2bladeKind being examples. Who's to say that she can't find another transforming fork-spoon weapon that doesn't come from Crocker?
- Actually, IIRC the way specibi work, there is a strife portfolio in which all the specibuses of a character are stored. You can only use one specibus at a time, but the ones you aren't using, and the weapons contained therein, are merely stored away.
- Alongside the fact there are two Seers, two knights, and two heros of space, every element is represented in the party except doom.
- In fact, maybe they will be successful because they don't have a Doom player.
- On the other hand, there is no evidence so far that the trolls will count.
- At this point, I wouldn't put it past Hussie to have set up every other "Round Two" be a victory for the original loser just to subvert it at a critical moment like this in a massive Wham Episode. However, despite not being a gambling man, I wouldn't bet against him.
- Presumably just refers to many many instances of "One x, many y" across literature and his plundering of the Frog Temple.
- And of course, a pun on "One too many suitors."
- Well there's been at least one team member in every shown session who is a detriment to the team, and it's fairly likely to be Dirk at the moment. But the assumption that Princes are odd is a false one. Bards are weird and hard to classify, but both they and Princes are completely in line with other classes.
- Probably UU and uu when we get to them. Maybe the exiles too.
- John and Jade have buried the many corpses around the scattered lands. Bro's sword is left where it was impaled however, as a monument to him. Davesprite would freak if they moved it.
- In the original timeline, Roxy removed it only to put it back as a monument to Rose. In the post-retcon timeline, LOWAS exploded and presumably took Bro's sword with it. The original copy of the sword is still out there...
- Gotta invert the order of Dirk and Roxy; the lanterns on Jane's land implicitly confirm that the order is Jane-Roxy-Dirk-Jake. Moreover interests have no real reason to show up as no previous land has done so (with possible exception to Nepeta, a Joke Character). My own hypothesis is that it's going to be "Crypt" and "Element" (see below) so perhaps:
- Land of Polyandrium (an archaic term for a mass grave) and Neon, Land of Tombs and Krypton, and Land of Mausoleums and Xenon.
- LOPAN will look like a red light district or Las Vegas (with neon lights everywhere), while LOTAK will have at least a few Superman references (possibly even to the point of eventually being destroyed).
- Perhaps LOMAX will have some kind of emphasis on nuclear power? If LOPAN uses the light theme, anyway. Given Jake's and Jade's use of uranium and radioactive material in advanced technology, it would fit the theme pretty well.
- Considering Helium was used for Balloons, Hussie may go with the popular conception of each element, ie, Neon lights, Superman Krypton (Especially considering all the other comic book shout outs), and Nuclear Xenon (though Xenon has nowhere near the presence in pop culture as the others).
- Pyramids fit in LOPAN, don't they?
- Luxor Hotel, anyone?
- That fits far better than Polyandrium.
- OP here. The first words in each name were really not the important part of the theory, but it just looked unfinished to leave that part blank, and I didn't have any better ideas. The flash itself says that LOPAN will be entered before LOTAK, and it makes more sense for Dirk to enter before Roxy, because he is Jane's server player, so LOPAN is probably Dirk's planet. Once again, the main part was the noble gas theme. The crypt theme seems like a good idea in hindsight, though.
- Again, the flash shows that the order is Jane-Roxy-Dirk-Jake implicitly by the order of the lanterns, Cyan-Pink-Orange-Emerald. Besides, Roxy is in more immediate danger as her neighborhood is ablaze, and there's already been weird shenanigans with servers, given Dave is both Rose and Jade's server players.
- I'm curious as to why Argon was left out.
- This is a stretch, but Argon lights have Mercury in them, too. uu has been associated with Mercury in many, MANY theories, so maybe that has something to do with it?
- Note too that the narration specifically says LOCAH and LOPAN, and then LOTAK and LOMAX, seemingly acknowledging and skipping over Argon at the same time. Considering the last noble gas is Ununoctium, connections with UU and uu might not be unfounded.
- Well, if we include Ununoctium, then what's to be done about Radon? Possible connection to Lord English?
- This is a stretch, but Argon lights have Mercury in them, too. uu has been associated with Mercury in many, MANY theories, so maybe that has something to do with it?
- It was mentioned above that the order would be Jane->Roxy->Dirk->Jake because of the lanterns, but that doesn't seem to be the case; Jane's lamp is opposite Jake's, and Roxy's opposite Dirk's. An alternate possibility may be that they will enter in the order their pre-Scratch counterparts were prototyped. This would give Jake LOPAN; if it's (as some people are guessing) Land of Pyramids and Neon, then he'll likely have an Egyptian-themed area with flashing lights; Dirk would have (the supposed) Land of Tombs and Krypton; and Roxy would have (again, currently just a fan nickname) Land of Mausoleums and Xenon, which ties in with Jasper's Mausoleum and, possibly, her alcoholism/element (Xenon is sometimes used as an anesthetic, according to Wikipedia).
- No matter how much you rotate, the order in sequence is always Teal-Pink-Orange-Emerald-Teal-etc. Dirk and Roxy's lanterns are adjacent as are Jane and Jake's. The ones "opposite" each other are Jane and Dirk and Roxy and Jake. The planned order was Jane-Dirk-Jake-Roxy, which Dirk organized so he could meet Jake, but events have since spiraled out of control and Roxy's neighborhood is in immediate danger much like Rose's was, while Dirk seems to still be busy and Jake is knocked out. Sure it involves some server and player shenanigans but Dave and Dirk have already shown that's perfectly fine. And that method of entry still corresponds to the relative locations of the Beta Kids and their entries in order.
- The discrepency is finally acknowledged and rectified in one fell swoop. While the characters still complete the chain in the planned order, it seems the actual entry order differs slightly. Nevertheless, it seems to be implied that Jake, Roxy, and Dirk will enter near simultaneously anyways.
- No matter how much you rotate, the order in sequence is always Teal-Pink-Orange-Emerald-Teal-etc. Dirk and Roxy's lanterns are adjacent as are Jane and Jake's. The ones "opposite" each other are Jane and Dirk and Roxy and Jake. The planned order was Jane-Dirk-Jake-Roxy, which Dirk organized so he could meet Jake, but events have since spiraled out of control and Roxy's neighborhood is in immediate danger much like Rose's was, while Dirk seems to still be busy and Jake is knocked out. Sure it involves some server and player shenanigans but Dave and Dirk have already shown that's perfectly fine. And that method of entry still corresponds to the relative locations of the Beta Kids and their entries in order.
- I'm convinced that LOMAX has to be Jake's planet, whatever the full name is. His echeladder includes the rung "Revenge of Bernie Lomax", which is both a reference to Weekend at Bernie's and the same letters as the planet's acronym.
- Foreshadowing! Also as mentioned above, Xenon is an anesthetic, which fits with the frequently knocked out Jake.
- The auto-responder is trying to get Dirk and Roxy into the game as fast as possible. He tells Roxy to connect with Jake, but he still probably considers that a low priority compared to the other two. So Jake=LOMAX is pretty much confirmed.
- The pages after [S] Dirk: Unite confirm the order as Jane->Dirk (via Sawtooth)->Roxy (via Squarewave)->Jake (with the rest of the group). The lanterns were only placed in the same positions as the planets within the incipisphere would be (ie Jane's, the closest to Derse, is opposite Jake's, the closest to Prospit).
- It will be Mounds and Xenon, Tombs and Krypton, and Pyramids and Neon, because of the pesterlog on this page.VRISKA: We've explored ancient crypts, networks of 8urial mounds, dusty old tom8s, giant pyramids, you name it. Hints a8out the endgame are hidden all over the place.
- Confirmed if this took place two years before the currentnote time.
- Dirk opens that conversation with a "Happy 13th" for Jake. Assuming Jake's birthday matches Jade's pre-Scratch birthday, Jake would be 15 by the beginning of Act 6. So... confirmed.
- Looking at least a little bit confirmed, following the Trickster Mode events at the End of Act 6 Act 5 Act 1.
- Maybe just a little bit. After all, we know John and Jade are (probably) entering before Dave and Rose, and the wait may just be enough to make everyone an even 16, while the meteor takes it's time to catch up.
- His body was carried to his tomb, which is presumably on his Prospit Quest Bed. Furthermore, it was his (pre-Scratch) grandmother who self-prototyped her Dream Self, so this is a very real possibility.
- If Jane said 'no' to the Bronze Potion, Gamzee just gives her a few bottles anyway, which she doesn't mention throwing off the cliff. I'm calling this unlikely, as she only threw it over the cliff in text, so use of it likely isn't canon.
- The blood potions after the creation of Tavrisprite were probably gotten rid of as quickly as Jane could.
- Maybe even harvested for grist, if that's possible.
- Alternatively, Eridan and Feferi will be put together. "Feferidan" is an easy enough amalgamation to put into a sprite name.
- My guess is he'll either leave Sollux's sprite alone to deal with his bifurcation, or Gamzee will jump into the final one himself.
- A thought occurred to me. Doesn't anyone else think Hussie is using this to make fun of the shippers pairing trolls and giving the odd names?
- That's the joke.
- Confirmed in idea, but not in specifics. Jake gets Erisol, Roxy gets Fefeta, and Equius is paired with Dirk's autoresponder to give A Rquiusprite.
- That's the joke.
- Mostly Jossed; we now know the origin of his name and his Lord English-y stuff, and we also know who Lord English started out as.
- Sawtooth is more of a parallel to an idealized version of Dirk himself. Remember Squarewave speaks in red, like Dave, while Sawtooth is an untouchable badass, like Dirk likes to think he is.
- I think this has just been sort-of confirmed with her trickster self...
- Core of the theory mainly confirmed, if not the execution, as we skipped A 6 A 4, and Caliborn reveals he can see everyone again near the start of A 6 A 5, so he effectively becomes the viewpoint character.
- Somewhat Jossed - they appear to be from the far future of the B2 session. Note the huge amount of shitty JPEG artifacts which could only have been made by Alpha!Dave.
- After the events of [S] Dirk: Synchronize, there's no way Gamzee will be able to kill his real self - he already gone and killed himself already, although not without getting things set up for the session.
- Which leaves with the possibility Gamzee will kill Dirk's dreamself in the Medium or Derse's moon... right on a Quest Bed.
- That statement was clearly referring to Nepeta. Or, rather, was intended to be interpreted as such...
- That image is non-canon. We still have no idea what Doom shoes look like. Doom has been suggested to be the counter-element to Life in fact, and Void and Hope are seemingly counterparts. Additionally, we have yet to see a God Tiered Hero of Void or Mind, and the image also shows errors. Hope has been shown via Eridan to be purple, Life via Feferi pink, and Blood via Karkat to be black. Hussie likely hasn't been going with an obtuse and confusing code for shoes, and is probably just picking out nice counter colors rather than specifically matching counterpart elements. It's also possible that specific classes or species simply have different colors of shoe: Dave and Dreambubble God Tiered Karkat both are Knights and have Black shoes, while the shoes of Feferi and Eridan match their blood colors.
- Calliope said that you don't have to wear all of the god tier outfit, and Vriska probably changed her shoes to red ones. Eridan and Feferi could have changed theirs to fit their blood colours.
- We see Vriska seconds after ascension, like we also see Rose after her ascension. Their shoe colors are different, jossing the whole deal.
- Similar to John's in 2009 and Jade's in 2010.
- In royalty, Lords serve under a higher power, in this case, a prince.
- Each incarnation of Dirk owns a Lil' Cal, which may or may not resemble Caliborn.
- Dirk's title means Destroyer of Souls, and Lord English kills ghosts.
- Dirk's opinions on his class and aspect make references to him becoming a "cartoonishly evil sorcerer.
- Plus Caliborn has a sort of admiration for Dirk. This might carry over to his Lord English incarnation.
- Tavros foreshadows the possibility of there being a bigger bad.
- Also it seems weird for Dirk to be such a perfect character in physical and intellectual terms.
- Dirk's bed has snooker ball sheets.
- Of course, this could be taken as a joke. He wants to have an English in his bed.
- Dave is being heavily foreshadowed as being the one to slay lord english, and considering his relationship with his Bro.
- Bro "Pimp"ed his puppets.
- Partially confirmed in that Lord English is a result of Equius, Caliborn, half of Gamzee, and the Dirk's AR smooshed into Lil Cal. So technically Dirk is part of the true villain.
- Confirmed. Hilariously.
- The sword's prototype was found in the Gate of Babylon.
- The sword's blade itself is made of Super Alloy Z.
- The flames were ignited by a Getter Beam and a Buster Beam colliding.
- The fires were stoked with the Red Stone of Asia.
- The anvil used was made of pure Gundanium.
- The hammer used was the Goldion Hammer.
- True to form, what he used to shield his eyes from the sparks and brilliant light of the forging process were a pair of welding glasses that resembled some rad pointy anime shades.
- Part of the tempering process involved slaying an Angel with the still red-hot blade.
- After cooling in an enchanted spring where virgin horses nicker and bathe, it was polished to an immaculate shine by three busty catgirls, one a Tsundere, one a Yandere, and the last one a {{Kuudere}}.
- Probable if offscreen, given how A 6 I 5 ended.
- Dirk placed Caliborn's soul in Lil Cal, and the autoresponder also came along for the ride.
- 1. Roxy's Denizen "Voided" Roxy's sadness over Rose's death. Unfortunately, it worked TOO well and made it so there's nothing left in her.
- 2. It's not really Roxy and just a doppelganger the real Roxy made using her Void powers to mess with John a little.
- Turns out it was nothing, just a Call-Back to Jane's walk around and meeting Gamzee it looks like.
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