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- That makes a lot of sense, since Malfoy is actually quite bad at being a Slytherin. Instead of achieving his goals with cunning, his main line of action is going whining to his Daddy.
Except Dumbledore, and 4 other characters of your choosing. Now kindly shut the fuck up.
- Stag/Doe, Wolf/Dog...
- Alternatively, they are bi, or at least Lupin.
- You know what? I'd like to see a fanfic where Hermione encouraged Ginny to see other boys because she's a Yandere who wants Harry for herself. Nice little reversal of the usual Fandom-Specific Plot.
- You can not tell me such fan fics dont exist in their hundreds. Go forth and search young man!
- ...What does this have to do with Sirius/Lupuin?
- That could be the real reason for the duel that killed poor Ariana. I can imagine that kind of confession, especially in The '30s or whenever it happened would make Gellert flip out and try to fry his BFF in his (Albus') home.
- Easily! Alternately, Grindelwald had caught on to his friend's affections, but as long as they were in the background, and unspoken, it was just another bond between them, y'know? Except Dumbledore decides to confess love, not just attraction, expecting sympathy, and it freaks Gellert the hell out. Aberforth enters the fray and gets Crucio'd.
- This WMG makes a fair bit of sense, actually. Many young men "fool around" with each other even though they are straight. It has nothing whatsoever to do with actual final sexuality, but men who end up heterosexual are usually VERY uncomfortable talking about it. They could have had a physical relationship that soured once emotions came in - Gellert figuring he doesn't know anyone in the area, so who was going to know he was physical - then when Albus professed his love, Gellert freaked.
- Especially as Grindelwald is from fin de siecle Germany, where these type of homosocial relationships between adolescent boys were common.
- Word of God has "Grindelwald was aware of Dumbledore's feelings, he merely used them to manipulate the other boy and did not reciprocate romantically."
- So Gellert could have easily been aware of his friend's attraction and used it to keep him loyal to the cause- only it turns out to be love, not just a crush, which Gel is not prepared to deal with. Seriously, someone needs to write a fanfic to this affect.
- Definitely jossed. Flirting and making thinly veiled innuendos with another man and then screaming at him while almost crying because he broke up with you doesn’t usually involve being straight. He could still be bisexual or just Albus sexual but he’s not straight.
- Luna's eyes aren't blue they are grey. In the books they are always described as "silvery grey" because the moon is silvery grey. People used to associate the full moon with madness hence the term "lunatic", hence why JKR named her loony character "Luna". There may be rare occurrences where the moon appears bluish, but nowhere in the books is the color blue mentioned in correlation with Luna's eyes. Yet every fanfic I've read describes them as such. Not all blondes have blue eyes.
- Oh, her eyes are a slightly different colour? So therefore the entire theory now doesn't make sense?
- No mention was made of eye color debunking the WMG. Take a chill pill.
- There are two problems with this one: First, Rowling said that Voldemort was incapable of loving because he was conceived with the use of a love potion (which was also lampshaded by Slughorn in the sixth book when he reminded the students that a potion couldn't create real love). Second, it makes Lily look like a stupid, weak little girl who couldn't defend or take care of herself and couldn't let herself be happy, which is totally contrary to everything Rowling has ever told us about Lily.
- "a stupid, weak little girl who couldn't defend or take care of herself"?! I like the smell of victim-blaming in the morning...
- JKR said that the fact Voldy came from a loveless union is SYMBOLIC of the fact that he can't love, not a direct consequence.
- It's a bit of a jump from "doodled her initials" to "drugged and raped her" don't you think?
- Well apparently, Harry doesn't think it too much of a stretch. After seeing the memory of James bullying Snape in the Pensieve, he wonders if James forced Lily into marrying him once or twice. I mean, I don't think this theory is all that plausible, but I'm just saying.
- That's because Harry's an angsty 15-year old who idealizes his parents and doesn't recognize the concept of "the lady doth protest too much." JK Rowling even hinted at this in an interview. "You're a woman. You know what I'm talking about." (Leaky Cauldron interview, I think).
- an absolute jerk who had a creepy obsession with Lily fits Snape more than it does James, let's be real. Besides, it's said that James eventurally grows out of his behaviour. Snape on the other hand...
- Definitely Jossed
- I think the real answer to this WMG is that there's no way James could have drugged Lily for so long without being found out. As stated in the HBP (and above) a love potion doesn't create actual love, only a strong and senseless obsession, which shows. When Romilda Vane unintentionally drugged Ron, Harry knew something was off almost instantly. Lily's friends and teachers (as well as James') would have realized that she wasn't herself and wasn't acting normal.
- Also I doubt Sirius and Remus would have just stood aside. Peter maybe because... Peter, but both Sirius and Remus were on equal footing with James and definitely would have interfered with him trying to slip Lily some lovepotion. And don't forget how both of them pointed out how JAMES grew up in their last two years in school and how Lily gave him a chance after he did the growing up thing, not before. Someone did change his behaviour, but it was neither aprupt, nor potion-induced, nor Lily.
- Wait, what if, in an effort to get over her residual feelings for Snape, Lily dosed HERSELF with a love potion to make herself fall completely in love with James!
- The above point still stands: She would begin acting funny and her close friends would notice.
- Not to mention all the prefects share a private bathroom... that actually makes perfect sense.
- And that bathroom has a large pool/jacuzzi.../bathtub...
- Or it could just be another of the many enchantments on the school.
- THANK YOU!
- I can imagine Madam Pomfrey having a cupboard full of ointments, potions and creams for magical STDs.
He has no idea that Harry and Hermione aren't together that way, from Snape's point of view, James and Lily are happening all over again, a version of James is dragging down a version of Lily. And he can't even say anything about it, it would be horribly inappropriate for him to meddle in student's relationships like that, or show any interest in their relationship at all.
So he just punishes her harshly whenever she has anything to do with him, hoping she will take the hint and stop dating that horrible showoff and bully, James, er, Harry Potter.
- Snape begins to bully Hermione in their first potion class, before she is friends with Harry. Snape's treatment of Hermione has nothing to do with Harry, Snape just finds Hermione annoying and, as a Sadist Teacher, lets out his frustration and emotional issues on his pupils.
- Also, Hermione is not similar to Lily. Sure, they are both smart, muggle-born, and willing to stand up for what they believe in, but that's where the similarities stop. Lily had, similar to Snape himself, an innate talent for potions, which Hermione doesn't have, she's just book smart - which is a major reason Snape looks down on her. Also, Lily seemed to be kind as well as popular, while Hermione, bless her, was never particularly good with people. Furthermore, Lily had a bit of a temper, which Hermione doesn't have, and she was conventionally attractive, which Hermione isn't.
- Why are so many people fixated on the idea of Lily being raped? It boggles the mind.
- Rule 34, or else it's a bunch of Snapefen still upset that Lily chose James over their Sevvie-poo.
- And liberal dose of Ron the Death Eater and Draco in Leather Pants too.
- Probably to give Harry a similar "born from a loveless union" backstory as Voldemort.
- The only other problem is that both Slytherin and (I think) Gryffindor are mentioned in the books as having descendants... Although I guess they could have been bi.
- They wouldn't have necessarily had to be bisexual, either. Being married or having children would have been expected at the time, maybe even arranged marriages for them, and they may have seen it as a duty to their family. Even today it's not at all unheard of for people to marry and have children before coming out, because they are attempting to live a 'normal' life and fulfill what they see as familial responsibility, or as an act of self-denial for religious reasons. If they were gay, in that era they would not have come out at all, and would probably have married and reproduced for the same reasons homosexuals sometimes do it today. It's also not necessary that they would have been monogamous with their female partners, even if married they could still have been lovers. The act of sex is possible with people one isn't attracted to, even consensual sex.
- Dude, you don't get it. "Mudblood" is the equivalent of "nigger". They didn't need to be bonking for her to break off her friendship with him for that.
- May I point one more thing out here? Yes, "Mudblood" is the Potterverse equivalent of "nigger", and once again, Severus Snape was wrong for saying it. And yet Lily put up with him calling every other Muggle-born "Mudblood" for who knows how long. She said it herself; page 676 in the US hardback edition. If she was so offended by the word, why didn't she just say, "All right, you're an asshole, good-bye and good riddance" when he refused to stop using it to refer to Muggle-borns in general? Why did she let him do it until it got personal? Either Rowling didn't stop to think about those very Unfortunate Implications, or something else was going on behind the scenes.
- Maybe she thought she could change him, or thought "well, we're friends, so I'm different in his eyes." Only when she realized that he didn't perceive her differently did she abandon him. We all know women (or men) like that, who refuse to accept that someone obviously not very good could be a bad guy. Usually the only way for them to see is for them to be directly hurt by it.
- This is close to how I saw it. Lily always wanted to see the best in a person, so she stuck with Snape in an attempt to change his ways. If she wasn't so desperate to see the inherent goodness in him, she would've ditched his bigoted ass years earlier.
- No excuse? Are you high? How would you feel if I called you spic? Or nigger? Or cracker? Or bitch? And held that view for life that Hispanics/blacks/whites/women are inferior? She was amply justified in walking out on the slimy git.
- Jossed
- YES. Actually, it's been floating the internet that it will be Scorpius and Rose that fall in love, as Ron specifically told his daughter to stay away from him (or something like that) in the Epilogue. Do childen listen to their parents...?
- Another popular theory is that it will be Scorpius and Al, which would spice things up even more.
- Would you please stop seeing gay subtext where it does not exist?
- *** Gay subtext? Because there's sooo much more evidence for Scorpius/Rose than Scorpius/Al in the epilogue. The sexualities of Scorpius, Al, and Rose have never been so much as hinted at, so ditch the heteronormativity please.
- Actually, I'm all in favour for this, because the abbreviation for the ship would be AS/S. Almost makes the Epilogue worth it.
- Not just would be: IS. Livejournal has had a specific comm for this (the_ass_ship) almost since the book came out.
- Another popular theory is that it will be Scorpius and Al, which would spice things up even more.
- No evidence at all in canon, but for any Dramione (Hermione/Draco) shippers out there who still respect canon, this would be, if not a dream come true, then the next best thing.
- Just check out the fanfiction search page for ScoRose.
- And how do you explain Harry and James' similar appearance?
- If everyone is related, the Potters must have intermarried with the Princes at some point. Also, you don't even have to be related to resemble someone.
- Still, that level of similarity of appearance would be uncanny in two unrelated people.
- Also, Magic. Maybe he was conceived while Snape was polyjuicing... Or Lily
- Luck. Harry and James just happen to resemble one another, to Lily's relief.
- If everyone is related, the Potters must have intermarried with the Princes at some point. Also, you don't even have to be related to resemble someone.
- The timelines don't match up. If Harry was born in July 1981, then he was conceived in October 1980 — at which time Lily & James were full-time Order members and Snape was a loyal Death Eater. An affair, one-time or not, is... unlikely.
- Why not? People have affairs with jerks all the time don't they? And Snape could have just lied to the lot of them. Wasn't that what he was intending to do in the first place, before he actually converted to their side?
- No. It wasn't. Snape didn't turn over to the Order in any capacity until after Trelawny made her first prediction, which was after Harry's conception. Before that, he was a Death Eater through and through, and would've fought against them. (In fact, he was known to be a Death-Eater-in-training even as a Hogwarts student.)
- Unless I am mistaken, nobody in the Order knew Snape was a Death Eater at that time.
- You are mistaken. Snape was a known Death Eater at the time. Dumbledore's attitude to him in "The Prince's Tale" when they meet so Snape can warn him about the Potters being in danger plainly shows that Dumbledore knows he's a Death Eater.
- Dumbledore knew because Snape confessed to him (and probebly suspected). Sirius Black said he never heard even a hint that Snape was a Death Eater, and he has no reason to lie.
- Why not? People have affairs with jerks all the time don't they? And Snape could have just lied to the lot of them. Wasn't that what he was intending to do in the first place, before he actually converted to their side?
- Another point (and I can't believe I'm wasting so much time disproving such a frankly stupid WMG): wouldn't the whole Luke, I Am Your Father thing be in "The Prince's Tale"?
- Sigh, I really just can't believe it. Yet another desperate fan-denial to the fact that Lily chose James over Harry. You Snape fanatics are truly frightening, that you would condemn James for being a bulling jock when Snape turns around and does the exact same thing to innocent shoolchildren fifteen years later. And in your mad zeal to soothe your wounded pride, you unintentionally make Snape come off looking even worse than he did before: If he's Harry's father, then that makes his treatment of him even more disgusting and despicable.
- This is just speculation, but it might have something to do with how the movie version of Snape was a quite a different character from the book version. In the movies, we never really see Snape bullying Harry or anyone else; he comes across as austere and strict, but never really bullying. We never see him call Lily or anyone else a "mudblood", or talking about the importance of blood purity, or anything of the sort. What we do see is him being bullied by James and the other Marauders for no reason whatsoever. We also see him put himself between Harry, Hermione and Ron and an out-of-control werewolf. For people who have only seen the movies, it can be easy to have more sympathy for Severus than for James. Even for people who have read the books, the movies can heavily influence their perceptions of the characters.
- Jossed
He does however, marry Astoria Greengrass eventually, but that could just be because it's expected of him as heir to the Malfoy name. It would be of no surprise if Lucius demanded that of his son, regardless of what Draco himself wanted.
- Some of the recent blurbs JKR put on Pottermore reveal that Lucius and Narcissa were a bit disappointed in Draco's choice of marriage because the Greengrass family was not part of the "Sacred Twenty-Eight" that comprised the 'purest' of the pure-blood families. If he was trying to please his parents, Astoria wasn't the best choice.
- THIS SHOULD NOT MAKE AS MUCH SENSE AS IT DOES.
- If some of the WMG theories are right, and Nagini is an animagi, this would only make it slightly less squicky...
- It gives "Parseltongue" a whole other meaning.
- Nagini, as a horcrux, can be seen as an extention of Voldemort. That means that Voldemort is love with himself.
- But... how do they do it? (That was a rhetorical question, by the way).
- He'd have to keep it under wraps.....Because the first thing Bellatrix would do after crying her eyes out would be to kill Nagini. And, y'know, that would be a waste of a horcrux.
- Please, if Voldemort thought one of his minions was a threat to someone or something he actually cared about, he wouldn't hide it - he'd break out the AKs.
- With The Reveal in Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, I think he saw her as some sort of mother figure. She's an adult in the 20's where he was just born so she's much older than him and is in fact old enough to be his mother.
- Lord Voldemort - This one could really go either way. Although once extremely good-looking and popular with the ladies, Rowling has emphasized his complete lack of love for others. While he was an expert charmer, such as with the ancient Hepzibah Smith and the ghost of Helena Ravenclaw, he was never written as having a girlfriend or romantic encounter of any kind. On the other hand, it's quite possible he helped himself to whatever ladies he wanted for hormone-based hate-sex or power-sex, especially as a teen, but there's no evidence he had much interest in this either. Even the "beautiful" Bellatrix Lestrange, who Word of God says was in love with him, could not stir his fancy.
- Jossed as of The Cursed Child.
- Albus Dumbledore - He fell in love with Gellert Grindelwald as a late teen, but the extent to which his romantic feelings were returned is unclear. Rowling said that after the disastrous events of that connection played out, Dumbledore was so disgusted by what his feelings had done to him that he became "quite asexual" for his later life.
- While hetrosexual virginity is usually considered "vaginal", when it comes to gay sexuality "virginity" becomes subjective to whatever the individual person thinks is the line.
- A case of research failure? Asexuality is a lifestyle as much as hetero or homosexuality is, and isn't something you can change. This doesn't mean he couldn't have resisted the temptation, but still, the way she worded it sounds incorrect.
- Actually, speaking as an asexual, there is definitely such a thing as a "demisexual". People who self-identify as demisexual are totally asexual, until they develop romantic feelings for somebody (such as Albus did for Gellert), then begin to feel sexual attraction solely towards that one person. When he realised that his feelings for Gellert were tainted by his horror at the things Gellert had done, he no longer felt sexual attraction to anyone.
- Jossed. It’s heavily implied in the second FB movie that the relationship was sexual which was later confirmed by Rowling in one of the extras on the DVD.
- Severus Snape - Loved only Lily, and didn't exactly seem like he'd be popular with a lot of other ladies anyway. It's possible that he hooked up with other women after the blow of James and Lily getting together, especially during his Death Eater days, but it's equally possible he simply never got over her on any level, before or after her death.
- Possible, but not probable. Snape was socially awkward to the Nth degree from his childhood up through his adult life. Then again, he was a potions master and is implied to know how to brew up a love potion. (It's also implied that it's not on his 'favorite potions' list, which may or may not be connected to his history with Lily.)
- Antioch Peverell - There is no evidence that he had any descendants. Also, when he possessed the Elder Wand he may have been trying to compensate for something.
- Sex doesn't always lead to babies....
- I know, but he was the only possible virgin I could think of on the top of my head.
- Sex doesn't always lead to babies....
- Harry Potter - He loses his virginity after he returns to life. (This is a stretch, I know.)
- Colin Creevey - Only sixteen when he died, he was never shown to have a girlfriend (or any interest in girls at all, see the WMG far below).
- Vincent Crabbe - I mean, really, who would have sex with that. note
- Barty Crouch, Jr. - He was very young when he went to Azkaban, and when he got out, he spent all of his time caring for Voldemort and impersonating Mad-Eye Moody.
- Rufus Scrimgeour - Never mentioned as having been married, although that likely doesn't count for much. But he was also an essential lifer in a profession at a time where being involved with someone had a good chance of getting that said person blown up.
- Similar for Mad-Eye Moody. Not probable, but not impossible, either.
- Lavender Brown - confirmed to die in Deathly Hallows by Word of God despite the book's narrative is a bit vague about this. It's unlikely that she never did it with Ron in Half-blood Prince and it's even more unlikely that she had a time for this in Deathly Hallows, even if she got another boyfriend, considering that Hogwarts was under the tyranny of Carrow siblings at this time. Of course, she might have time when she's hiding in Room of Requirement but there's a big risk of Primal Scene since there are a lot of other students there, not to mention underage students.
Related to the above; these characters are most likely to have had sex before they died. Do not include the characters who were explicitly not virgins when they died (Remus Lupin, Nymphadora Tonks, James and Lily Potter) or characters who did not die within the series (The Golden Trio, Draco Malfoy, Neville Longbottom, etc.) Also, spoiler alert.
- Fred Weasley - He and his brother were very flirtatious, seen going out with girls frequently during his school years, and had graduated and was presumably living by himself.
- Well, himself and his brother shared a flat. Although one does have to wonder whether one twin or the other's relationship with their pretty young assistant (Verity was her name, I think?) was all business. Then, there was that time at Bill's wedding where he and George 'disappeared into the darkness' with two of Fleur's veela cousins...
- Sirius Black - Popular with the ladies during his school years, I personally doubt that he was still a virgin at graduation. Then, in the years between his best friend's marriage and subsequent death, he could have had any number of women (although nothing is ever said on the subject). Finally, after leaving Azkaban, he was known for being reckless; he may have taken the chance to have a couple one-night-stands with women who didn't seem to recognize him.
- Remember that in Britain, the legal age is 16, so Sirius not being a virgin by Graduation really isn't a big deal.
- You can go one further with this... the muggle legal age of consent is 16. Wizarding Britain doesn't always follow Muggle Britain's rules (wizarding adulthood starts at 17, for example, as opposed to 18 for Muggles - to say nothing of the entire monetary system), so there's no telling what wizarding Britain's legal age is, or even if the Ministry enforces something like that.
- Remember that in Britain, the legal age is 16, so Sirius not being a virgin by Graduation really isn't a big deal.
- Bellatrix Lestrange - This one should go without saying. Not only is she very beautiful (despite what Azkaban did to her), but she's also married; it's unheard of that she never slept with her husband.
- Ehh...that actually wouldn't have been a stretch for Bellatrix, given her obsession over Voldemort. It's mentioned that she has no children (ironically, in the corresponding film of the book where she says this, her actress is pregnant). Of course, this could still be correct, perhaps with her having taken the Lie-back-and-think-of-Voldem- er... England approach to sex with Rodolphus.
- Unheard of? She didn't even like Rodolphus, she only married him because she was supposed to marry a Pureblood. I doubt Bellatrix would have let any man touch her without her consent.
- Ehh...that actually wouldn't have been a stretch for Bellatrix, given her obsession over Voldemort. It's mentioned that she has no children (ironically, in the corresponding film of the book where she says this, her actress is pregnant). Of course, this could still be correct, perhaps with her having taken the Lie-back-and-think-of-Voldem- er... England approach to sex with Rodolphus.
- Peter "Wormtail" Pettigrew - Possibly. He may have been able to get some popularity with the girls while at Hogwarts just by association with the Marauders, and in that case, gotten some. He also was known to go out and converse with girls while he was supposed to be caring for Voldemort. And, honestly, stranger things have happened.
- Or, he just found time to brew up or procure some love potion on the side.
- Squicky thought, but Sirius did say that his own thoughts became simpler — more dog-like — when he was in his dog form. Pettigrew stayed in his rat form for thirteen years without a break, so it's possible that he lost sight of his humanity for long stretches and wound up socializing with regular rats. Given rats' status as an Explosive Breeder species, that would've included lots and lots of mating opportunities...
- And then there's the question of Bertha Jorkins and where in the hell Voldemort got that fetus body. brrr.....
- Lavender Brown - debate on whether she died in the book and the film aside, she was pretty and very clingy and physical with her love interest(s). There's a bit of a feel of Did They or Didn't They? throughout Book 6 with Ron, and it's never stated that they didn't. And if not with Ron, then maybe with someone else.
- Amelia Bones - She's unmarried and seems to be a very McGonagall-like careerist in the Ministry. Also, the fact that her niece, Susan, was given her middle name while Amelia was still alive could indicate that Amelia, for one reason or another, was unable to have children.
- Or, alternately, they were going to wait a while, but James decided to get married to do right by her after he found out she was pregnant.
- Yet another insane attempt to delegitimize an established shipping due to character bashing.
- This is realistically plausible, and one of many possibilities that could have happened. Not every marriage, even ones that do ultimately end up very much in love, started with perfect twoo wuv and absolutely no ulterior motives or complicating factors.
- This would also imply the second example of Bury Your Gays in the book.
- Dumbledore was gay and he died, it’s not Bury Your Gays. He was like 115 when he died and he died because of a curse. It’d be this trope if he was the one who died because of his teenaged relationship, not his sister.
- This would also imply the second example of Bury Your Gays in the book.
This isn't quite going into Oedipus Complex territory, but it's obvious throughout the series that Harry held his parents in very high regard. Knowing Rowling, this may or may not have been intentional, but Ginny exhibits a lot of the traits that either one or both of Harry's parents had during their time at school. Like Lily, she's an attractive redhead and a skilled witch with courage and natural leadership abilities. She also happens to be the youngest sister in the family. Like James, she shows above average talent with her spellcasting as well as with Quidditch. In fact, she played both Chaser and Seeker at different points in her Quidditch career at Hogwarts just like James did. (James is mentioned as being a Chaser in the books, but is also seen showing off his reflexes with a snitch in a flashback, which might imply that he, like Ginny, played Chaser on a team with a very skilled Seeker, but switched to Seeker when said teammate either left school or was injured.) James was also a natural leader, even of the Marauders in his early school days, and he became Head Boy in his seventh year as well.
- You did not just say that James Potter was a Chaser. He was the SEEKER. HOW many times did the books say that Harry was a Seeker just like his father?
- Um... never? The books just establish that James played Quidditch, it's never stated what position he had on the team — the first movie says he was a Seeker, but the movies aren't canon to the books — and according to JKR, James was a Chaser, not a Seeker. What muddles the issue a little is in the "Snapes Worst Memory" chapter, where James is seen playing with a Golden Snitch... but then, there's nothing to say that he couldn't have had talents as a Seeker as well, or maybe, like the above Troper theorized, substituted as the team's Seeker when the real Seeker was injured — much like Ginny does for Harry in HBP.
- You did not just say that James Potter was a Chaser. He was the SEEKER. HOW many times did the books say that Harry was a Seeker just like his father?
- Where else could this go, when Ron opens his mouth and specifically tells Rose (albeit in a tongue-in-cheek manner) not to get too friendly with Scorpius and that Grandad (Arthur) Weasley would never forgive her if she married a pureblood? Hilarious in Hindsight waiting to happen. Also, it would (possibly) bring a degree of closure to the Weasley/Malfoy feud, after the two families haven't liked each other for a couple of generations.
- Or they got disowned, just like previous generations of Purebloods that married the wrong people.
- By Lucius and Narcissa, perhaps, but that's about it. And even that's sketchy. They care much more about their own 'blood' than the pureblood movement. The Weasleys obviously don't care much at all (that's one of the reasons the other pure-blood families don't like them), and Word of God says Draco steered his son away from the old family ways, which he probably couldn't have credibly done if he had held as tightly to those beliefs as his father had once done. Although on a personal level, TT could certainly buy Arthur and/or Ron holding a grudge against the Malfoys for a very long time.
- Or they got disowned, just like previous generations of Purebloods that married the wrong people.
They had to do something to pass the time when alone in that tardis of a tent afterall, and dancing can only go on for so long...
- But Harry yelled "Ginny" and Hermione screamed for Ron at the same time afterwords the agreed not to speak of it again.
- Kinky roleplay.....
- But Harry yelled "Ginny" and Hermione screamed for Ron at the same time afterwords the agreed not to speak of it again.
- Then Crabbe and Goyle got Pansy Parkinson pregnant, and she retaliated by getting Luna pregnant. And then Ron got himself pregnant because of an accident with a contraceptive and a time machine.
- For as much as the book series focuses on magical-muggle 'relations' and blood status, it's notable that Cho (who's a sorta-important character, but not really) is the only one explicitly mentioned as having married a Muggle. Maybe she got tired of the bad luck she seemed to have with her relationships with wizards. Maybe Michael Corner (her last known boyfriend) died during the Battle of Hogwarts (he's unimportant enough so that he could have been easily lumped in with the 'fifty' that fell that day). In any case, it seems strange that Word of God treats her fate so unambiguously when slightly more central peripheral characters - Dean, Seamus, and Parvati for example - aren't mentioned at all except that they apparently survived.
- No. Just...no.
- This may be canon. Check out this comment by J.K. Rowling:"But, I felt — and I'm talking years ago when all this was planned — initially, she's terrified by his image. I mean, he's a bit of a rock god to her when she sees him first, at 10 or 11, and he's this famous boy."
- This may be canon. Check out this comment by J.K. Rowling:
- She's often seen giving him compliments and is very devoted to him, but also gets irritated with his some of his quirks and antics, a bit like a wife. She's also fiercely - sometimes violently - protective of him, even though she probably knows full well that he can handily beat anyone who tries to fight him. She's likely closer to him than anyone, as Word of God says that each, at least initially, is the only one that knows the other's past - and McGonagall actually has quite the tragic backstory. In that backstory, she's also had a romance with a much older man. And, for what it's worth, the two are dance partners at the Yule Ball, at least in the films.
- Not much to add to this, really... she just seems to come from out of absolutely nowhere and I thought she deserved at least a theory on how she got there.
- But was Molly really predisposed to being plump, though? Keep in mind, she had 7 children in 11 years - the last four in four years, including a set of twins.
- Or it could have been the other way around, in an Opposites Attract kind of way.
- The Gaunts had an obsession with blood purity and were already inbred.
- Morfin was deranged and violent, which makes it more possible that he raped Merope in addition to otherwise abusing her.
- Morfin could hate Tom Riddle because of jealousy.
- Merope may have seduced Tom Riddle in order to disguise Tom Jr.'s parentage.
- Voldemort's snake-like appearance may be the result of the inbreeding. It was concealed by the spell that was Merope's dying wish, and then started to slip when he tore his soul apart.
- Voldemort is the product of an even more loveless union than he knew.
- He is the heir of Slytherin through the male line and also in spirit.
- He is a pureblood after all, of which, in a feat of Dramatic Irony, he is not aware, considering himself to be a Boomerang Bigot.
- Her comment to Narcissa about the latter's worries about Draco in Book Six can come off as, "You should be thankful you even have children that you can potentially watch die for Voldemort's cause." There are two named female Death Eaters (that is, those that have taken the Dark Mark and not simply sympathizers) in the entire series - Alecto and Bellatrix. Now, given what we know of Voldemort's feelings (or lack thereof) for his mother, it wouldn't be such a stretch to think that Voldemort would regard women as weak and that their only purpose - or at least their best purpose - would be to couple with his Death Eater men and bring forth strong sons. Or, at the very least, that he wasn't keen on the potential of losing the women in the ranks to pregnancy. But if you gave him a woman that couldn't or wouldn't get pregnant and she was capable and willing, then there wasn't a problem.
- OP here. Just making note of the fact that this WMG didn't age well.
Perhaps he was using the "pure blood" rhetoric for his followers and didn't really believe it himself. Perhaps he contemptuously thought that Snape was reverting to the Muggle side of his family and wanted to throw him a bone to keep him useful. Perhaps he hoped that Snape would find the reality educational, so he would seek a better bride.
Mind you, it's very likely he deluded himself into thinking he hadn't intended to, after, even by the point where he talked to Snape.
- Voldemort didn't need to delude himself into thinking anything. He only cared about Snape as a useful servant and just intended to Throw the Dog a Bone, not teach him lessons. Whatever pep talk he had with Snape afterward and his resurrection, he only needed to know if Snape had moved on and didn't regret Lily's death and thus was a loyal Death Eater. Also, it's unlikely that he ever spared a thought for Lily aside from her being Snape's prize.
- He didn't need to care about Snape to delude himself. All he needed was to care that his plan had fallen through.
Godrick and Salazar were friends before having a falling out, yes? This is the reason for the rivalry between the two houses. Salazar – a man who seems to be fairly set in his ways and would likely demand the same of all of his students – placed a curse on both houses, that no Slytherin and Gryffindor can ever maintain a positive relationship. This curse was infused into Salazar's bloodline, and the rivalry lingered so long as that bloodline existed. This might explain why no teacher at Hogwarts seems keen on ending the rivalry and in some cases it would seem that they even encourage the hostility (James and co.'s very public bullying of Snape seems to go entirely unpunished, the Quitich teams are pit against each other almost constantly, and no other teacher raises an eyebrow at Snape unfair treatment of Gryffindors) because there is nothing to be done about it until the curse is lifted.
The curse fills the students of both houses with instant, almost instinctual loathing toward each other. This feeling likely lingers as a learned behavior for the rest of the students lives, or at least it did, as not-yet-sorted students like James, Sirius, Draco and even Ron each already had preset house-based prejudices that were most likely learned from their parents. If the students happened to have a positive relationship before their sorting, as in the case of Lily and Severus, the curse would cause turmoil to their friendship for possibly years until it finally ended on a bitter, unhappy note, punishing the students who tried to forge what Salazar probably considered an unnatural connection.
Slytherin House after Voldemort's demise is said to have gotten better, though still not an entirely desirable House. This can be less about the curse and more in reference to the lingering prejudices from the curse, considering the context in which is it brought up – a fair bit more playful than the borderline fanatical allegiance demonstrated by the characters-in-questions grandfather. This seems to cement that the curse is lifted, presumably alongside Voldemort, the last remaining heir of Slytherin.
This troper is not counting Cursed Child as canon, as it was not written by JK Rowling.
How else could he still have Parseltongue abilities after the Horcrux is gone. It is because he is unknowingly a descendant of Salazar Slytherin and James never developed it because he either did not know himelf or because of the unfair stigma attached to it.
It’s been mentioned several times that Grindelwald has time only for people he sees as equals. Aberforth says in the seventh book that Grindelwald couldn’t understand why Albus loved his “inferior” siblings and that Aberforth should be grateful to have such a brilliant brother. Now Aberforth is certainly a bit of an unreliable source but this holds up. Newt also says something similar at the end of the second FB movie.
Now, who is explicitly his only equal in the franchise? Dumbledore. Not even Voldemort was on their level. Dumbledore kicked Voldy’s ass in the fifth book and the FB movies make clear that Grindelwald is both more skilled and knowledgeable. Voldy is more Unskilled, but Strong.
The way Grindelwald talks to Newt in both the first and second movies also implies a bit of jealousy about it. “What makes Albus Dumbledore so fond of you? “Will Dumbledore mourn for you?” Like a , “Why the hell does the greatest wizard in the world like this weirdo animal guy when I’m right here?” sort of thing.
He doesn’t let the equals thing go. He’s obsessed with Dumbledore in a Crazy Jealous Guy kind of way. That’s why they hit it off romantically because there’s no one else either one could have hoped to meet that would ever match each other.
His only equal is, luckily, someone roughly his age. Gender be damned, he doesn’t want a partner who’s “beneath”. If his equal just happened to be a beautiful young lady about his own age, the same thing would have happened. He’d have started a relationship with her.
That’s really what sets the two of the apart. Dumbledore treats everyone with kindness and respect from awkward Newt, to werewolf Lupin, to half giant Hagrid. Grindelwald just can’t feign any sort of kindness to anyone that’s beneath him. Like to Aberforth, Ariana, Credence, Newt, and others. If all that craziness hadn’t happened, Dumbledore could have found someone else but he couldn’t, guy or gal.
He and Dumbledore had a very close friendship. When Ariana died, it's possible Elphias was the only one to offer him tea and sympathy, even after hearing the whole story. It never got beyond friendship because Elphias just wasn't interested in men that way. It was just as well. After Ariana died, Albus needed a friend more than a lover anyway.