This is for all theories on the show's final Season 8. Be warned it contains spoilers for earlier seasons.
- Unless there's some behind-the-scenes business that prevents it, it would make the most sense just to bring back his character as someone everyone will recognize as opposed to introducing someone completely new at this late juncture. On top of that, It will add an extra element of tragedy for Daenerys should his mercenaries clash with her forces at any point. Alternatively, Daario can play the part of the 'man scorned' and have extra motivation to go after Daenerys because he was left behind.
- Or he pulls a fast one on Cersei and joins Dany.
- JOSSED: Harry Strickland was introduced as the leader of the Company in "Winterfell".
- Though it is all but confirmed that Jon is not only the child of Rhaegar and Lyanna but is also the legitimate heir to the Iron Throne the showrunners recognize that Jon's real identity is that of a true Northerner and a Stark at heart. Though it would be a cool bit of fanservice for him to learn the truth, I see Bran realizing that revealing such information is not terribly important. There is also the fact that realistically there are only two witnesses for the reality of his heritage; Bran, who "has visions" and Sam, who discovered an exceedingly obscure document like a proverbial needle in a million haystacks. The validity of any such claim would be dubious at best. Given that there's likely to still be some resistance to a power like Bran's in the larger continent and the fact that we've scene documentation doesn't necessarily translate to decree (Cersei ripping parchment and all) not to mention that Jon and Dany have done the deed and what that would do to their relationship and her claim, and that it just seems a little too tidy for Martin's world, it is highly unlikely that greater Westeros and its power brokers will learn of the last Targaryen scion.
- JOSSED: In "Winterfell", Sam tells Jon everything in the crypts after learning that Danaerys had his father and brother executed when they refused to bend the knee to her.
When Episode 1 starts, the Army of the Dead marches south from Eastwatch towards White Harbor where Dany and Jon are approaching. They will receive word of the fall of Eastwatch and the approach of the Army and hear of Viserion the Wight. On hearing this, Daenerys will rush straight away on Drogon to meet Viserion and stop the advance of the Army of the Dead. Right from the start there will be a huge dragon battle between Drogon and Viserion, while this happens, Jon and Tyrion mobilize the defenses and convoy to Winterfell of the important dragonglass from the ships, but both of them fearing for Daenerys, worry. So Jon will mount Rhaegal to join her. During the dragonfight, the Night's King will have the upper hand only for Dany to be saved by Jon on Rhaegal, and the resulting dragon battle and flames will burn a huge chunk of the army of the dead, as well as collateral damage in the countryside, preventing the Night's King from adding to his ranks. As such, the Night's King beats a retreat somehow. Either Jon or Dany will consider giving chase, but for some reason, either because one of them is injured or to prevent a faction of Walkers, they will let the Night's King go. This will be the Final Boss Preview. It is only then that Dany and Jon will go to Winterfell and arrive on dragonback, and this is when Bran will give The Reveal and siege preparations happen. Meanwhile, the Night's King stung by his defeat will fly South (for more see below). The White Walker army will be split on multiple lines. A main group will be pinned north, laying siege around Winterfell and halted from marching South, while the Night's King will fly South to find new allies and bring a new army north to properly encircle the heroes and avoid battle with the two dragonriders. Bran/Sam/Tyrion/Davos will be planning a way to force a Decisive Battle, and track the Night's King who will try to force his army and subordinates to kill Jon and Dany. This will also give time for Jon and Dany to let the Rhaegar plot sink in, reunions to happen, and some amount of snark and politicking to take place.
- Jossed because the first episode is the "calm before the storm" type with many reunions and mistrust going around. Though Jon did get to ride a dragon for a test run.
- Jossed. She tried to roast the Night King except he's fireproof. Arya's the one who killed the Night King.
- Partially jossed; Arya doesn't get her revenge, but Cersei dies anyway, courtesy of falling rocks.
- Jossed. Daenerys survives the battle.
- Jossed. It's Arya Stark who kills the Night King.
- Jossed; Jaime dies during the siege of King's Landing in the show's penultimate episode.
And it would be especially fitting, since Sansa was probably (partly) inspired by the Historical Domain Character Elizabeth of York, who united the Houses of York and Lancaster at the end of the Wars of the Roses by marrying King Henry VII. Elizabeth outlived her husband by quite a while, and enjoyed a cozy retirement after most of her family was killed in the Wars.
- Jossed for the marriage part, confirmed for Sansa outliving Jaime.
Considering Arya's famous strength and independence, it would be quite fitting if her name was carried on by Westeros' version of Queen Elizabeth I, a feared and respected female monarch who refused to take a husband. Just imagine a princess who combines Arya's spunk and attitude with Sansa's grace and charm; that's a young Elizabeth Tudor in a nutshell.
- Jossed.
Going off of the theory that Daenerys will die in a Heroic Sacrifice and Jaime will take the Iron Throne: Tyrion will be left as the sole holdout in Daenerys' army, and he'll succumb to despair when he learns of her death. With Daenerys dead, he'll be left with nothing to live for, and he'll defiantly refuse to spend the rest of his life in Jaime's shadow. Despite knowing that he has no chance of winning, he'll gather a small force of loyal soldiers to make a doomed charge against Jaime's forces—essentially committing suicide. In the ensuing battle, a tearful Jaime will beg Tyrion to turn back, knowing that he can't bear to kill his brother. But, Defiant to the End, Tyrion will continue to charge, and Jaime will be forced to kill him in battle, sobbing as his brother dies in his arms.
Afterwards, Jaime will quietly bury his brother away from the prying eyes of his men, reflecting that he's just made the first of many painful sacrifices in his long reign.
- Jossed. Tyrion outlives Jaime, who dies in the siege of King's Landing.
People are speculating about how Cersei's fourth pregnancy will fit into her prophecy, well here's a thought; we know that she's supposed to be killed by her younger sibling (something we know Jaime qualifies for as much as Tyrion), what if this is how? It would be the ultimate twist to the prophecy, the thing that she thought would let her beat the prophecy, is the very thing that fulfills it. Think about it, Jamie is partially responsible for the pregnancy (along with Cersei herself) so if it killed her then some of the guilt would technically fall on Jaime.
- Jossed; Cersei dies via falling rocks.
- Gregor will end up North, sent by Cersei to kill Jon Snow, or accompanying Cersei after she flees King's Landing, and he'll be close enough, and dead enough, for the Night King to be able to influence him. After cutting through many, Sandor, who will have joined the Night Watch or otherwise being allied with the Starks, will step up to be the one to stop him.
- Or how about this: Gregor is sent up north along with the Golden Company. Arya takes the face of one of its leaders, gets close to the Mountain, and stabs him brutally when his guard is down. Because he's the Mountain, he's able to fight back effectively, but before Arya is killed, the Hound steps in...and it will be marvelous.
- Jossed. The Hound finds and duels the Mountain in King's Landing as it is on fire and takes the Mountain with him to the grave.
- In something of a no man of woman born situation Cersei will die believing that Tyrion, the valonqar was responsible for her death... and then the mask will come off revealing Arya, having realized that the aforementioned dead Tyrion's face afforded her a chance to get to the queen, has crossed perhaps the biggest name off her list.
- And it would still be a valonquar who's responsible.
- Jossed. The Hound keeps Arya from going further into the city, Arya flees in terror as Dany torches the place, and Cersei dies "with her brother's hands around her neck". She always assumed Tyrion would kill her because of that prophecy, but it's really Jamie showing her a last bit of love as they are killed by the building collapsing on top of them.
- And it would still be a valonquar who's responsible.
- After Jon and Dany take the Seven Kingdoms, Cersei dead by "Tyrion's" hand, the alliance will turn their attention to the army of the dead and like her preincarnation, will die likely, in another bit of irony, by dragon or wildfire. She will bequeath the recently won crown to Jon Snow with Jaime as his "hand", Snow will sit on the Iron Throne, as it did in the House of the Undying and, to serve as a foil to Joffrey and Tommen, no one will know that he is the legitimate king.
- Jossed. Dany survives the war and goes insane partially because Varys betrays her having learned Jon's secret and tries to replace her with Jon. Varys sends letters to all the houses revealing Jon's secret. Soon all of Westerosi will know the truth.
[WMG: Sam's philosophical musings about what 'death' is, is actually a clue on how to beat the White Walkers]]His words can be boiled down to 'Death means forgetting and being forgotten.' What if, apart from fire and dragonglass, a way to beat back the undead army is to make them remember who they used to be? It could be that an undead Hodor shows up at the Godswood to kill Bran, somehow remembers him and becomes a creature not unsimilar to Benjen Stark: undead but no longer in the thrall of the Night King.
- Jossed. The Night King can only be killed if he's stabbed in the same place as when he became a Night Walker, which he is, by Arya. His army literally falls to pieces without him.
Some of the faceless men’s behavior seems odd when they punish Arya for “killing the wrong target.” Why would they care if she killed more than one target?
It makes more sense that they dislike her reasons for doing so because she’s not impartial. She can’t become ‘no one’ if she specifically wants to kill them as ‘Arya.’ Instead of rejecting her, they’re actually just waiting for her to tie up her loose ends and return.
- Seemly jossed. At the end of the series, she travels west to explore the unknown.
- But the same prophesy also says she will have 3 children, suggesting she won't survive to have the 4th, though I suppose if you die giving birth you technically didn't have that last child...
- Mashable had a similar theory, except they speculated she'd have a son, and it'd be a dwarf like Tyrion, just to twist the knife. It'd be appropriate for her to die just like her mother.
- Jossed. Cersei is killed with "her brother's hands around her neck" when the crypts collapsed.
- Because it's Game of Thrones, but also because it would facilitate a subversion of a particular fan expectation, the exact type of thing Martin likes to do. That expectation is that Jamie will kill Cersei, which brings me to...
- And let's not forget that Dany might be pregnant with Jon's unborn baby and Jon never wanted to father a bastard, so marrying with help keep the child legitimized and will help secure both Jon's and Dany's claim to the Iron Throne.
- Unlikely as Dany goes insane, Jon is a threat to her rule and won't support a Mad Queen, and even if he did, the look Greyworm gives him after he tries to stop the slaughter of King's Landing implies Greyworm will try and have Jon killed by Dany.
- And let's not forget that Dany might be pregnant with Jon's unborn baby and Jon never wanted to father a bastard, so marrying with help keep the child legitimized and will help secure both Jon's and Dany's claim to the Iron Throne.
- Jossed. Jon is forced to assassinate the Mad Queen after it's clear that she will burn the whole world burn to stop "tyranny".
- Jossed. Jamie and Cersei die as Jamie tries to lead them out of the Red Keep, but their exit is blocked and they get crushed to death as half the ceiling collapses right on top of them.
- Jossed.
For the sake of The Alliance and peace, there will be a wedding between a Northern and Southern Kingdom, but that will be between...Sansa Stark and Gendry Baratheon, legitimized by the royals in the North (either Jon, Dany, or both). This will create heartbreak for Arya, since she knows that she cannot be the lady but until now hasn't been tempted to think twice, because she was never tempted with making a sacrifice of something she wanted, in this case, a boy who she had a huge crush on, and is possibly in love with. For Sansa, who has been a Single Woman Seeks Good Man, Gendry will be a roundabout way of giving her what she wanted from the start, and completing the Stark-Baratheon marital contract after two failed attempts (Lyanna-Robert, Sansa-Joffrey) for Rule of Three. But in the end, if she survives, Arya will ultimately go Wandering the Earth becoming a Knight Errant-like figure, saying goodbye to her family forever.
- Even better if Jon and Danaerys made Gendry their heir (and don't survive the Winter). The "younger, more beautiful queen" replacing Cersei isn't Dany, it's Sansa!
- Jossed. Dany goes insane and is killed by Jon to end the madness, Jon is forced to take the Black as a result, Sansa declares independence from the 7 Kingdoms, Bran is voted in as King, and Arya travels West so she does wander the Earth, but Gendry isn't mentioned.
- Sansa/Sandor (Martin implied in interviews that something between the two might happen between the two in the books).
- Jossed.
- Arya/Gendry.
- Confirmed. They kissed and have sex together.
- After Gendry is legitimized, he proposes to Arya who refuses based on the fact that he doesn't want to be a Lady, so it might just be a one night stand for her.
- Arya travels west, so that's not happening. Jossed.
- Jaime/Brienne.
- Jossed. Jaime chooses Cersei and dies in her arms.
- Bran/Meera.
- JOSSED: The actress who plays Meera said she didn't shoot any scenes for the final season, and their last scene together kind of argues against this anyway.
- Jaime/Sansa. They have a pretty good chance of being the last surviving members of their Houses, and their marriage could finally unify the Stark and Lannister clans.
- Jossed. Jamie dies in Cersei's arms.
- It would, but my money is on her miscarrying.
- Jossed. Cersei dies long before she can give birth.
What is very much considered a medieval and dark fantasy trope? Spiders. What has yet to be seen in Westaros? Spiders. There is enough mystical to justify their appearance. Spiders Are Scary and Go T does horror, fright, dread like few others, the show would really play up how bad they look, how vicious they are, why they are so dangerous. And a oblique reference to White Walkers using them may now lead to them being seen now that it's all about fighting the army of the undead.
- Jossed.
- but not the same as in the books, since Beric Dondarrion is still alive in this continuity. She will be among the corpses in the Winterfell crypt who rise as wights when the White Walker army attacks Winterfell.
- We know that Catelyn is buried in the Winterfell crypt from one of the Season 8 teasers.
- Additionally, she is the one chasing Arya through Winterfell in the Season 8 trailer. That is why she is so terrified by this particular threat. Similar to how Arya was chasing cats in Season 1, Arya will be chased by Cat in the final season.
- Jossed.
“WHAT!?” They were created with one purpose: kill the Andals. The North is largely descended from the First Men, who were allied with the Children.
The war between the Children and the First Men ended with a pact. When the Andals invaded, no pact was possible, so the Children created the White Walkers.
The Faith of the Seven was enforced by the Andals, which is commonly portrayed as a seven pointed star. The White Walkers’ ‘mark of defiance’ is a circular spiral made out of cadaver parts, which shows a refusal to ever adopt the faith.
King Aerys’ insanity started taking hold early on and got thrown into overdrive when he was imprisoned at Duskendale. The reason: Bloodraven first tried to give him a head start on the White Walkers, and then tried to warn him of Tywin’s efforts to remove him from power during the Duskendale event.
Much like Hodor, except without warging, eventually Bloodraven’s attempts got locked into Aerys’ mind, and caused the king to continually become more paranoid.
You’d think a sorcerer gelding boys across Essos would have something to show for it. Varys finds him, and even the red witches consider him “2nd rate.” We don’t even know if the sorcerer even heard a voice. It seems like if he did, he would consider holding onto Varys for more parts.
It’s possible the voice gave Varys a mission, which he’s fulfilling. Whenever the red witches creep him out, it might not be because they ‘know’ about the voice, but because their spy network is on par with his own.
Who would be a good candidate for the voice in the fire, if not the red god? Bloodraven.
We’ve seen how the White Walkers produce Wights. He would have had to take a lethal hit, and have a Child jump in right then and there to stab him with the dragon glass.
This means he was either doing something with the Children to get turned, or he was ambushed by Children. We’ve also only ever seen the living turned into a White Walker. This wouldn’t give Benjen time to look partially decomposed.
There’s no real context given to any of this. Why would the Children help a member of the Night’s Watch? You can’t claim its because he’s a Stark, because Jon Snow never met them, and Benjen doesn’t have the same powers as Bran.
It makes more sense for Benjen to be ambushed and forcefully converted by the Children.
This raises another issue though: if he underwent the same process as the Night King, why isn’t he a super powered White Walker?
Its about matching the theme of the overall story: Game of Thrones was never about White Walkers or any of its fantasy elements. It was ALWAYS about the intrigue and power plays.
Peter Baelish’s death is particularly important, because Bran / Bloodraven steamrolled him at his own game. Fans often argued that Peter would be the big bad if he didnt die. Well, he did, and although Arya was the one swinging the blade, Bran was the one calling the shots. This makes him the ULTIMATE player in The Game of Thrones.
Key things hinting at Bloodraven’s dark intentions:
The skeletons that attacked Team Bran at the entrance of the tree: they didnt have blue eyes. ALL White Walker wights have blue eyes. If the skeletons weren’t the White Walkers’ then whose were they? They were Bloodraven’s.
Why would Bloodraven kill the kid? Because the kid was a failed attempt at transferring out of his body with the tree growing through it. The kid gained some abilities, which made him too dangerous to leave alive when he started explaining the mechanics to Bran.
All the human skulls at Bloodraven’s feet? Failed earlier attempts with kidnapped wildlings. Bloodraven learned enough from the partial transfer with the last kid to know that Bran would work. The kid that died, benefitted enough from the power to know he was going to die, but lacked the ability to understand why.
Fast forward to Bran’s training. He’s shown enough to make things work, but not enough to say... avoid getting grabbed by the Night King. Once the Night King starts his raid on the tree, Bloodraven finishes up the transfer.
This is the first time we see the dark side of Bloodraven’s power, when Hodor more or less gets labotomized. Bran just warging into Hodor the first couple of times is ethically questionable, leaving Hodor horrified every time he returned to himself, covered in blood.
The Night King could be chasing down Bloodraven to finish the threat, once and for all.
When we see Team Dany present the wight to Team Cersei, the wight goes straight for Cersei and ignores everyone else. Why does she matter? She doesn’t. She IS “The Queen” though. That institution is older than even the White Walkers.
This fits with Dany’s vision of an empty throne in a destroyed King’s Landing. This is also why it could be Dany’s death that triggers the end of the Long Night. She still wants to be queen. So, when Cersei dies, as soon as Dany declares herself queen, she becomes the new target.
Why is all this only taking place now? The dragons charged up the residual magic, as the warlocks pointed out.
Why would the Night King go after Bran then? The better question would be: Why is the most powerful seer, a human, rather than a Child of the Forest? There’s no doubt, Bran’s power is incredibly dangerous. This probably makes him a target.
- Jossed. Only a handful of supporting characters died.
- House Lannister is more or less dissolved, with an empty home.
- Tyrion and Jamie know too much about the problems with holding the throne to actually want it.
- Cersei is pretty much going down, one way or another.
- House Stark only truly cares about the North, and nobody is really following in Ned’s footsteps.
- Jon has a hero complex, which the universe already killed him once for it. The Battle of the Bastards betrays that he didn’t get any smarter from the experience.
- Sansa will probably focus on rebuilding
- With the wall breached, expect Wildlings exploring south (“I f***ing hate Thenns” -Everyone)
- Arya will probably turn into some kind of blood knight, either in support of the Faceless Men, or something else.
- House Targaryen has only Dany, who has to survive to keep existing. If she goes down, so does her house.
- Her vision in the warlock tower, shows a throne room destroyed and empty. Unless the snow coming in through the ceiling gaps is a subtle nod to Jon ‘Snow,’ then it means its truly empty.
- House Tarly - Samwell went from disowned, to male head of his house and by the end of season 7, he still doesnt know it.
- He finally knows it in the Season 8 premiere from Daenerys of all people. He's certainly not happy about it.
- House Baratheon is gone, with only the bastard Gendry with any possible claim.
- Gendry is legitimized, reviving House Baratheon.
- House Clegane will have the Hound (its doomed), after the Mountain dies.
- House Clegane is extinct as the Hound dies killing the undead Mountain.
- House Frey is gone.
- House Tyrell is gone.
- House Martell is gone.
- House Bolton is gone.
Once the white walkers wreck Westeros there might not even be a King’s Landing to occupy.
- The White Walkers are destroyed before making it that far, but Dany torches the place so semi-confirmed, just the wrong perpetrator.
- All the houses between the Wall and King’s Landing (aside from Winterfell) are going down.
- King’s Landing is almost certainly going under siege; and it could destabilize well before then.
- Again, is burned to the ground by Dany. Unknown how much of it will survive.
By the end of the long night, the survivors might not even want the throne, to focus on rebuilding / starting their respective houses. Instead of a central monarchy, they will probably function more like a confederacy of independent states with mutual non-aggression treaties.
House Bronn, when it comes into existence, is also going to focus on stable growth, rather than ambition.
- There are numerous reasons to point to this theory:
- 1. Cersei and Euron seem to know exactly when and where Danerys' forces will be, from Euron being able to intercept and ambush Yara and Theon's fleet, to the Lannisters pulling a feint on the Unsullied at Casterly Rock with Euron ambushing the Unsullied fleet at the same time. The timing on these ambushes is just too convenient.
- 2. Daenerys and Tyrion had absolutely no idea Jon Snow was King of the North, and only found out about it when Melisandre informed them. There's no way they could have been that out of the loop with Westeros' greatest spymaster on their side unless Varys was deliberately hiding the information from them, since if he is a traitor, he wouldn't want Daenerys gaining more potential allies.
- 3. Varys is the only person in Daenerys' court that doesn't have a personal stake in the conflict. Tyrion was chased out of Westeros due to false charges made against him by Cersei and Tywin. Ellaria and Olenna both want revenge for the death of their loved ones. Grey Worm and Missandei both owe their lives and freedom to Daenerys. Meanwhile Varys is only one working for Daenerys without obvious motives, meaning there's nothing motivating him to stay loyal to her.
- 4. There is quite a bit of foreshadowing in the early season 7 episodes. Olenna warns Daenerys not to listen to "clever men" like Varys, and Melisandre predicts that Varys is fated to die in Westeros. Other than old age, the most likely reason for Varys getting killed is his treachery being found out, of which Daenerys promised she would burn him alive.
- 5. Finally, why would Varys want to betray Daenerys? Because he knows that she cannot be easily manipulated like Robert Baratheon or Tommen. He most likely wants to prolong the war long enough until he can find a more suitable claimant to back.
- Jossed. She's indeed pregnant as she didn't drink her wine
- Not necessarily jossed. In that same episode, it's revealed that Cersei was lying to Daenerys and Jon the entire time. It could have all been an act to fool Tyrion into thinking she had a reason to agree to the truce. Plus she's seen drinking again in the Season 8 Trailer.
- Seems CONFIRMED now that "Winterfell", the first episode of Season 8, has aired. She was shown drinking a postcoital wine glass, and Euron felt her stomach up and promised he would get her pregnant eventually.
- Sansa is so thoroughly alienated from her family right now, almost without Littlefinger's interference that she makes a decision that, in Arya's somewhat radicalized mind, is irredeemable and irrevocable to the point that she kills her wearing the guise of a Faceless Man. Considering she just made a big show of never betraying her family as she perceives Sansa to have done, this would be a nice bit of irony as the sister war comes to a shocking close.
- Seemingly jossed given how they collaborate to kill Littlefinger and Arya's defense of Sansa to Jon in "Winterfell"
- The first attempt was quenching it in water: The wildfire trap in Black Water Bay.
- The 2nd attempt was quenching it in a lion: Shooting his father with the crossbow.
- The 3rd attempt involves a wife (or person of extreme significance): Dany or Jaime, by using them to bait a trap.
- We know that Jon is a son(g) of ice and fire unto himself in addition to the Ice in the alliance between himself and Dany. This likely is true of the Unburnt herself; the Fire and Azor/The Prince. The fact that she is, in actuality a princess, not yet a queen helps. I say "yet" because as I think we all rather foolishly assume, she will likely take the throne from Cersei leading into...
- There will be an accident...dying Dany will give birth to a premature baby girl, who she will give to a completely taken aback Jon, asking him to take good care of her and name her...Lyanna, after Jon's mother. (And there is your full circle Song of Ice and Fire.)
- Jossed. Any possibility of Daenerys being pregnant is rendered a moot point when Jon kills Daenerys.
- Half confirmed. Gendry is legitimized and made Lord Paramount by Dany.
- If one takes the position that the proverbial dragon Rhaegar spoke of is not a straight hero or savior in the traditional sense, but rather a transformative power, a catalyst for great change, a fulcrum/divergent force then, supported by his recent acquisition of one of the actual beasts this troper submits that Dany- fire, Jon- fire and ice, and The Night King- Ice is the three headed dragon- one come to destroy, one to vanquish the destroyer, and one to rule after the wars are done.
- Ok, so this is a theory that's been going around recently that relies heavily on many tried and true Time Travel Tropes. It posits that as he gains further mastery of his abilities as the Three-Eyed Raven, Bran uses his, I guess you might call it astral time travel projection, to attempt to interfere in past events to stop the Night King and as such, becomes the being itself. It has three basic stages working backwards to the creation of the White Walkers and points to a number of events in the present timeline to bolster its claims.
- The theory goes that the first significant attempt by Bran to stop the Long Night is to project himself to the time of Aerys and attempt to convince him to "Burn them all" with his wildfire, the "them" being the walkers. But because of the fact that he is not corporeal in the Mad King's time, rather a disembodied voice in his head, he drives Aerys to paranoia and insanity and the belief that "them" is everyone in King's Landing. The idea that Bran can in some way interact with the past is hinted at, of course with Hodor, who may or may not have actually seen Bran in the past, and then in his vision of the Tower of Joy, when he calls out to his young father and Ned turns as if he's heard something. There are excerpts in the books that suggest this more strongly. However, this is perhaps the weakest element of the theory as the White Walkers weren't on the verge of overrunning the capitol at the time and Bran has always known of the king as an omnicidal maniac he'd likely not attempt to reason with. There is however a variant on the theory that says the previous Three-Eyed Raven (unconfirmed in the show as a Targaryen bastard) may have attempted it and, realizing the error of his ways, counseled Bran against such a use of his power. Anyway after this Bran goes further back in time.
- Bran then tries to learn how the First Men defeated the White Walkers thousands of years ago, but fails or perhaps gets there after the war is already won, and only succeeds in helping to construct the Wall and Winterfell thus establishing himself as Bran the Builder. Some who subscribe to the theory also believe that, á la Inception, the longer he is in the more he uses his powers and inhabits some other space and time, that he gets stuck and as such, Bran takes on the roles of ALL the historical Brans of the North.
- Finally Bran attempts to go to the source, the creation of the the Walkers by the Children. Whether he's found a way to become corporeal by that time or is using his projection in conjunction with his warging to control another's body is a toss-up but in any case he is captured by the Children, turned into a White Walker, and fashions himself as the Night King. The theory then goes on to say that because he is essentially in an And I Must Scream state that he wants to kill the Children of the Forest, whose magic created him and finally achieve peace, thus by bringing about the Long Night he will ensure his own death. Those who subscribe to this idea point to a shot of the man on the tree and that of Bran in the cave that mirror each other, Leaf's words- "We needed to defend ourselves...Against you" and the fact that the Night King personally killed the Three Eyed Raven, really Bran in revenge for not spelling out the horror that would befall him, as clues to their shared identity. Also aesthetically the Night King's face seems to become progressively more human as the show goes on even admittedly looking something like Bran's actor, and their attire and gait are quite similar.
- There are a few problems with such a theory. On a Doylist level, 1) It more or less says that Aerys II's insanity is not down to incest, not down to feudal absolutism, and that the Mad King, his retainers and enablers, are not personally responsible for their actions and crimes. It completely removes the human element from the story in favour of some magic device. 2) This story makes the Game of Thrones entirely about Bran and a time-travelling kid rather than a Hyperlink Story of many characters who are Hero of Another Story. If the entire story is about some kid trapped in a time-travel loop then what does all the prophetic stuff about Jon Snow, and Daenerys, the "ice and fire" stuff mean, it doesn't make sense. 3) If the Night King "is" Bran, and if Bran is all the Brans who have ever existed, does this mean that Bran is also Brandon Stark, Ned's elder brother who defeated Littlefinger in a duel and got killed by Aerys II? That doesn't make sense. 4) The Night's King looking more human is surely down to the fact that they changed the actor between season 5 and season 6, no? And I don't see how the Night King looks like Bran, if you squint, it looks like Jon Snow or almost any dude with his head shaved and dolled with lots of makeup. That's on a Doylist level.
- On a Watsonian level. If Bran is truly the Night's King, then how is it that a sophisticated and gifted greenseer like the Three-Eyed Raven and the other Children of the Forest didn't detect it, and if they did, why didn't they, simply, let Bran die when he fell off the tower rather than open his third eye? All they had to do was kill Bran and that's it, the entire Night's King never comes into existence. On a character level, after what happened with Hodor, after what happened to the Three-Eyed Raven, why would Bran believe that time travel is the solution to his problems? The only reason Bran would have to go back into the past is if he believes that all hope is lost in the present, if Jon and Dany fail and everyone become wights. So again, the theory is just not believable.
- Actually, if this theory is true, this is the more logical part of it. So far, everything seems to point to the fact that you can't really change the past (and thus the future), because if you did, the future in which you travelled to the past wouldn't happen. The biggest point in favor of this to me is the fact that the original 3ER had to know what was supposed to happen, so he took Bran in a vision to the point in time when Willys/Hodor had his vision-stroke. If 3ER didn't know he was supposed to die then and there, he wouldn't have taken Bran to this specific vision, no Hodor would be created and there would be no one to hold the door.
- On a Watsonian level. If Bran is truly the Night's King, then how is it that a sophisticated and gifted greenseer like the Three-Eyed Raven and the other Children of the Forest didn't detect it, and if they did, why didn't they, simply, let Bran die when he fell off the tower rather than open his third eye? All they had to do was kill Bran and that's it, the entire Night's King never comes into existence. On a character level, after what happened with Hodor, after what happened to the Three-Eyed Raven, why would Bran believe that time travel is the solution to his problems? The only reason Bran would have to go back into the past is if he believes that all hope is lost in the present, if Jon and Dany fail and everyone become wights. So again, the theory is just not believable.
- What kind of treason are you asking? On the second theory, as far as we (and the books) is concerned, her son was just a baby before the Mountain killed him and it is said that her health was not doing well when she gave birth to her daughter and she nearly died when she gave birth to her son. The third theory (committing adultery) is the most likely reason. The Mad King never liked Rhaenys because she "smell Dornish" and it's possible that Elia had an affair with Arthur Dayne.
- Ok, admittedly, I didn't think that far ahead, but I will point out that as the wife of a future king, adultery is treason, since she'd be trying to foist a bastard on the throne. I mean it got Anne Boleyn and Katherine Howard executed in real life. (No comments on whether they were actually guilty or not, this isn't the place.)
- Elia believed in the prophecy of the three-headed dragon and, knowing that she was in no physical condition to give Rhaegar another child, she, like Selyse Baratheon after her, gave her consent to the prince to have another heir to complete the triumvirate. Rhaegar, understanding the power in unions between the blood of Old Valyria(Targaryens) and the First Men(Starks) chose Lyanna as the best chance to ensure the fulfillment of prophecy. He may not have even really loved her, which brings us to...
- Elia
- The only magic that exists in at least Westeros is that of the three-eyed ravens, Jojen Reeds, and Orells of the world and every other magic is tangentially either related to or actively created by them. They are the Lord of Light, the Night King, the magicians, and any other manner of supernatural in the world. We understand that dragons and giants are flesh and blood creatures and, the show at least seems to suggest, rather unconvincingly, that the Faceless Men use only masks to pull off their disguises. As far as Pyat Pree and the House of the Undying, it's possible that more advanced greenseers/wargs are able to project illusory images into people's minds like Prof. X and saturate structures in them like the Shining.
- If Brandon Stark or another warg is the Night King, then wights are created by him warging into the bodies of the deceased, illustrated in that their eyes become identical to his piercing blue eyes, much in the same way that Hodor's eyes go milky and opaque as do Brian's when he inhabits him. The Night King's greater power coupled with the fact that the dead have no consciousness, allows him to control more individual bodies and over greater distances.
Rather they're building an army to go after the Children of the Forest. They managed to off their kind beyond the Wall, but somewhere south in Westeros, maybe Essos and even other continents they still exist, albeit in hiding. For taking away his humanity, the Night's King wants to exterminate every last one of them. However his zombie army leads people to think he's an Omnicidal Maniac instead of someone who wants revenge, which puts him in a worse light. The army is so huge either because the White Walkers are overestimating the threat the current Children of the Forest pose, or they aren't and are the only beings in Westeros who know they thrive. Leaf's group is simply the last surviving members of their kind beyond the wall, and it's been so long apart they've forgotten.
It's also possible that the White Walkers want to exterminate other non-human races because they see them as a threat, just like the Children of the Forest used to be to mankind.
- And if their goal was simply to annihilate the humans of the world, they would not have left witnesses—Will, Sam, Jon and all the others fleeing Hardhome by boat—to testify to their growing strength. They would never have left Caster alone in return for his male children. No, they have some greater design (which, however, the humans may not want to let come to pass all the same).
This builds off one of the themes: royal blood is special.
Also, if you think about it, the white walkers are kind of a weird parody of the warring human armies. There’s a few actual walkers (nobles), who nobody really understands exactly what their end goal is, and an epic ton of fodder for waging their own war. The Night King’s Viserys acquisition, even puts him on equal footing as Dany.
Considering some of the walkers are going down in battle, they will need to ‘recruit’ from the locals.
- She won't at first claiming that Sam is just making up the high septon's journal to get back at her for killing his father and brother. This will be how he finds out and his reaction convinces her that he is telling the truth.
- Why not Dany having a girl...named Lyanna?
- Note also that in her vision, while Dany gestured towards the throne she did not sit on it. Given that and her conversation with Tyrion in Season 7 about breaking the wheel, this seems like a strong possibility.
- Gendry is legitimized, making him a candidate for King. Whether or not he gets it, and if he does, he will be a good King or a long lasting one to form a dynasty is yet to be known.
- Cornirmed. Drogon melted the Iron Throne and Bran becomes the new King and Ruler of the Six Kingdoms via Elective Monarchy while the North became independent.
One is Euron Greyjoy. We know that Euron wants power and dragons. So there's a chance that the Night's King will be drawn to The Silence by means of a horn which sound draws the attention of the NK flying above. Euron will propose an alliance and also offer him his services. He will build ships that will allow the White Walkers to expand their reach across the world (since Season 7 foreshadowed that White Walkers and the dead can't swim).
The other alternative is Cersei Lannister in King's Landing. From Season 5 and Season 6, there has been a recurring image of a dragon flying over the city's skyline. Season 8 will prove it to be the Night's King. He will arrive in King's Landing (which population was named a million at the end of last episode) and he will spare Cersei because she's pregnant with a child, and the White Walkers have converted human children to their cause and Craster's wives saw them as gods. Qyburn will somehow become a medium between the NK and Cersei, and the NK will make the Mountain into a giant White Walker since he's already a zombie. In exchange, both of them become collaborators and convert whole or huge parts of the population into wights for the army of the dead, while Qyburn comes up with something that will defend the Night's King and Viserion from dragonglass. This will raise the stakes for the final battle between the heroes and the Big Bad, and also give Bran more to do, since if he's going to play a part in the final battle with his warging and greenseer ability, the Night's King potentially going down with a Dragonglass tipped spear or Valyrian Steel thrust will render him meaningless.
- Jossed. They never reach King's Landing.
There will be a sequence where the heroes learn of a huge group of people pinned in a castle about to be surrounded by the Wights and there's no way to save them, and that if they fall they will become Wights for the Army of the Dead and the White Walkers. So Jon and or Dany will have to burn whole castles full of people with dragonfire for the Cold Equation of The Needs of the Many. It will be much darker if Jon does this, and he will unleash fire on...Castle Umber and Castle Karstark, whose lives he had spared in Season 7. Bonus points for History Repeats since Aegon I did the same to Harrenhal, and now Aegon "Jon Snow" will do the same.
Hodor obviously. But there will also be wight versions of familiar characters. Some possibilities, Brienne and/or Podrick becoming wights for the other to kill in a heartbreaking-tragic moment. Beric and/or Tormund, Dolorous Edd and other Night's Watchmen, Little Lords, Ned Umber and Alys Karstark, Tormund, maybe Theon and Yara Greyjoy.
- Semi-confirmed. Though we don't get to see wight-Hodor, Ned Umber, Edd and Lyanna Mormont do get resurrected as wights.
"When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he will return, and not before." Dany was always meant to bear another child... and once the last condition of the prophecy is fulfilled, Drogo will return to her in the afterlife.
- White Walkers do not have weaknesses with fire. Only wights do. The wildfire still around would not be a great amount. Huge parts were used in blackwater and to blow up the Great Sept.
- The wildfire used to blow up the Great Sept. is heavily implied to be leftovers of the 'Wildfire Plot' that the Mad King cooked up to blow up all of King's Landing. The amount of wildfire that Cersei used only destroyed the Great Sept. and the surrounding areas, but the majority of King's Landing still stands, so I guess she didn't use all the wildfire stockpile yet. The wildfire that destroyed Stannis's Fleet in Blackwater is the same. The amount of wildfire used back then is the amount that only a single ship can hold. And more wildfire can be produced if desired.
- Cersei told Qyburn to gather the remaining wildfire from its hiding places a couple of episodes earlier. There seemed like an awful lot right before it exploded. There may be some left, but nowhere near enough to seriously damage a wight army.
- I don't actually think Arya would mind Daenerys much. At first she might suspect her for obvious reasons, but she's a better judge of character than most, and her Faceless Man training's given her the ability to accurately read people. It shouldn't take long for her to catch on to Dany's good intentions. Also helps that Daenerys is about as close to a present day Visenya as the world is going to get, so she might come to even admire her. As for Bran, he's apathetic to virtually everything at this point considering he casually made Sansa recall one of the worst moments of her life. I'd think that the reality of the Night King being on the other side of the wall with a fucking dragon in tow would preoccupy him too much to care.
- As of episode 2, Arya doesn't give a damn about Dany. Most of her interaction so far focuses more on Gendry, the Hound and her family rather than some dragon queen.
- Read carefully, Tychos's apparent compliment to Cersei sounds sarcastic because ...
- ... everyone knows that while a bank controls you when you owe them a little money, it's the other way around when you owe them big time. Now that the bank doesn't have to worry about the Iron Throne's loan anymore, it can, as Tychos's comment suggests, explore other options for making a profit. And with winter and war making a serious food shortage in King's Landing likely, Cersei may wish she still owed, so she can get more financing.
- He has one job: kill his sister.
- Bran doesn't seem to care about his past self anymore. He'll probably vouch for Jaime in front of everyone because he knows Jaime saved the people of King's Landing.
- Jossed and confirmed. His dead, but not by anyone's hand but his own (with some help with the wounds Euron gave him slowing him down) when he's too late to get her out before the exit collapses.
It's one last cruel slap in the face; the Night King is old, he's bored, and he has reached the Despair Event Horizon from too many anticlimactic wars, rituals, and scientific discoveries. He basically wants to abdicate, but can't do so without erasing his 8,000 year old civilization. Even his children are also too old and bored to want the Icicle Crown. So he wants a successor who is so good at exceeding and finding the world exciting enough to live in that 'mere mortal training' (like 30 years of medieval starvation and combat) is enough for them to defeat an 8,000 year old Wicked Cultured Badass Lich King. Then he'll use the last of his magic to show them the true scope of 8,000 years of perspective, possibly even cosmic knowledge gleaned from those millennia watching the heavens and earth and travelling in the caverns to find creatures in the dark, all while removing the obsidian heart key in his chest and jamming it into his stunned killer. In this way his successor uses their newfound powers to rebuild the world, but also crush the obsolete Seven Kingdoms for good.
Culturally, they're not that different; two tribes of outcasts who resort to Rape, Pillage, and Burn and settle disputes and marriages with lots and lots of blood. With the wildlings on the verge of extinction and the promise of warmer lands across the sea, many might develop relationships during the war against the Night Walkers and the survivors will agree to share their knowledge of survival for safety and acres of dry land. Infighting is inevitable (wildlings have a custom to forgive wives who murder their abusive husbands, Dothraki view abusive husbandry as a standard), but the fusion of wildling tactics and Dothraki skill will elevate the Dothraki from tribal killing machines into a full-fledged military force comparable to Rome.
Between Shireen, Jorah, and the latter's trip through the ruins of Valyria with Tyrion, the show has spent too much time on this for it not to be of some significance in the end. Perhaps Jorah falls in battle ... but can't be turned into a wight because of his past infection.
In some grand cataclysmic moment, the world really will start turning the other way, the seas dry up and the mountains turn to dust, at least temporarily. This could be seen as similar to the catastrophe that ruined Valyria, which as Tyrion noted was still mostly unexplained but did seem to involve something similar.
If all of what was prophesied to happen to Cersei has come true, we can only assume that the same will happen to/for Danaerys.
The details of this prophecy have been repeated twice since it was made. This clearly suggests it will have some relevance to the end of the series.
- In "The Spoils of War", after he gives Bran the dragonglass dagger that was used in the Season 1 assassination attempt, Bran replies with "Chaos is a ladder", letting Littlefinger know that he's on to him. Later, Littlefinger is seen talking to a young woman, giving her a coin and she seems to say something like "your time is up".
- After that, his behavior changes. He starts seeming remarkably unsure of himself, to the point where is downright cowardly in the face of his looming execution in "The Dragon and the Wolf",note a development which he seemed to have not only not prepared for but not even anticipated.
- Is it possible that Littlefinger did anticipate that and made some arrangement for, say, a Faceless Man to die, unsuspecting, in his place? He may have some ties there we don't know about—early in the series he mentioned his father was from Braavos.
- In fact, the series spent a great deal of time developing the Faceless Men in seasons 5 and 6. More than you'd expect for the payoff to be just Arya avenging the Red Wedding. Perhaps the odd way she and Jaqen parted may yet lead to something.
- If he manages to survive a chaotic Season 8 where the Army of the Dead is defeated but at the cost of every other potential claimant to the throne, Littlefinger could reach the top of the ladder. This ending would fit with how the cast has described the ending of the show: "bittersweet", with Sophie Turner saying she walked around in a daze for three hours after finishing the finale script and Kit Hetherington saying that Rose wouldn't speak to him for three days after he told her how it ended.
- Seemly Jossed as evidence to show he's alive is non-existent.
- Catelyn was surprised to see Littlefinger in King's Landing in Season 1, because she thought Brandon had actually killed him 15 years earlier since Littlefinger's wound was mortal. But guess what? She was right.
- Rhaegar's body was never found ... it was assumed to have washed out in the river. But he survived and learned the ways of the Faceless Men. Littlefinger's was but one identity he assumed (recall Littlefinger saying at one point that his father came from Braavos ... not consistent with Baelish's backstory).
- He was also Sylvio Forel (explaining why we didn't see him die and it's not likely that he did, as the showrunners keep claiming—because the real Sylvio Forel was long dead) and Jaqen H'rghar (explaining how "a girl knows his name"). Arya has been key to his plans, explaining the latter's satisfied smile when she realizes she is always going to be Arya Stark and cannot be no one.
- For the rest of it see above.
- And note that the Season 6 teaser trailer took place inside the House of Black and White, with living and dead characters both apparently seen there.
- The Season 8 trailer begins with Arya's voice saying she's seen many faces of death and she will be glad to see this one. Presumably she's talking about the Night King, but maybe this is another hint about the greater role of the Faceless Men.
- Note also that back in Season 4, "The Lion and the Rose" was rewritten so that it did not resolve the "who wanted Bran killed?" subplot the way the books did. Originally, as in the books, it was to be have been more or less revealed in that episode that it was Joffrey. But that aspect was (imperfectly) written out. If the idea was at the time to have "Littlefinger" tied to it, and "Littlefinger" to escape and leave Sansa and Arya thinking they'd finally outwitted him, that was the perfect fulcrum in the narrative for it.
- In the godswood scene earlier in Season 7, notice how Littlefinger squints hard when Sansa mentions how Rhaegar raped Lyanna ... which we know wasn't true. Does he also know this and have to keep his tongue?
- Rhaegar's return would be a deliciously bittersweet ending to the series ... not Jon, not Dany and certainly not Cersei would have a claim to the throne. The Seven Kingdoms would persist, but without any of the projected winners.
- Seemly jossed as evidence for it is non-existent.
Obvious: The left most figure has a line across his right arm and visibly holding a sword in his left hand.
Less obvious: If you Google ‘alchemy symbol gold’ two symbols come up. One symbol is a circle within a circle, the 2nd symbol is a dot with 7 wavy lines emanating outwards.
Even less obvious:
Sam walks out from his conversation with Dany, stunned, he runs into Bran sitting under the night sky. Sam asks what he’s doing out there, and Bran replies: “Waiting for an old friend.”
He means ‘Sam’ right? No. Sam has had no prior relationship with either Bran or Bloodraven.
“Are you saying Bran creepily sat outside all night, waiting for Jaime to arrive?” ...yes. This is believable because A. He’s Bloodraven. B. In the books Milesandre doesn’t sleep. C. In the lore Barristan Selmy notes how the old he got, the less sleep he needed. Bloodraven is way older than Barristan.
Considering half of Winterfell is going to be foaming at the mouth to thrust Jaime’s head on a spike, its probably better Bloodraven be the first person he meets with.
- Bran didn't save Jaime. It was Brienne who first vouched for him then followed by Sansa and Jon.
Since the left most is Jaime with an alchemical symbol for gold below it, then the middle symbol is saltpeter. Since Lannisters are known for gold, who covers salt? The Iron Island has the salt throne, and salt wives, so there’s an obvious connection. This also explains Theon’s sudden urge to go fight at Winterfell, as well as his mysteriously awesome fighting skills.
The last figure doesnt really have a symbol, except maybe another symbol for gold above its shoulder, and its taller than the other two. This means the best candidates are The Hound and Brienne. Both are known for their size, and both have connections to the Lannisters. As far as Game of Thrones is concerned, their houses barely mean anything.
Discounting size, we can then add Jon and Bronn to the mix. Jon’s a tougher sell, but gold on the shoulder could be Bronn’s greed, especially since its a clearly different symbol from the one connected with Jaime.
- Qyburn lied to Bronn that Cersei dispatched him to kill Tyrion and Jaime. He is actually in cahoots with Euron Greyjoy. It doesn't make much sense for Cersei to order Tyrion and Jaime executed by crossbow, when she massacred her enemies with wildfire. Cersei doesn't do anything by halves. Qyburn is shown dismayed when Cersei blithely dismisses the news of the fall of the Wall. In short, Qyburn is allied with Euron for some plan or reason.
- It looks a spear actually. Unless it's a shooting spear.
- Jossed. It's a spear with a detachable spearhead that doubles as a dagger. It's not even that useful. Arya loses it halfway through.
This plays off recent events. First, Bran almost looks like he’s imitating the mannerisms of the actor that portrayed the Three Eye Crow. Hinting, that the crow is controlling the body, not Bran. Of course, he wants to ‘protect Winterfell’ but not from Bran’s perspective. Now, the trailers leading up to this season showed Team Dany showing up on what appeared to be open ground, with a single hoof of (presumably) a White Walker’s horse. Except, why would Team Dany meet the White Walkers outside the walls of Winterfell, where the humans would mix with wights and the dragons couldnt easily lay waste to the wight army? You could chalk it up to bad writing, except the Battle of the Bastards already primed viewers for this type of scenario. Now, even the show leads said “Jon isnt that bright.” If we go back to the wight kidnap scene in season 7, Jon stupidly doesnt hop the dragon. But... we also saw the Night King miss Drogon, and arguably after his Viserias take down, his chances of missing that 2nd shot was probably really low, to non-existant. So, Jon stupidly tries to cut his way to the Night King, and Benjen shows up out of nowhere to rescue him? If the White Walkers wanted Jon dead, he’d be dead.
We also didnt actually see Benjen die. He takes orders from Bloodraven (three eyed crow) and before that, he almost became a wight, (or White Walker)? But if the Children could undo the White Walker curse, why weren’t they more proactive about it? We know Bloodraven is a Targaryan. Jon is a Targaryan. Cersei is an Andal. Bloodraven wants a Targaryan on the throne. The White Walkers either want to destroy the Faith of the Seven, or install a Children-friendly king. Tie these pieces together and it becomes, Bloodraven made Benjen undead so he can understand the White Walkers and still communicate with humans / be a friendly face to the Starks. The Children we saw sacrifice themselves were simply finishing out their role and merging with the Weirwood network.
During the wight kidnapping scene, the plan was to commandeer one dragon to get past the wall. Jon got stupid, so Benjen was called in to get Jon out of there before he could directly threaten the Night King, who couldn’t fight back because Jon is instrumental to the plot. While Jon isnt bright, he’s still benevolent, which is hard to come by. Even Dany is alienating people left and right, while Jon is better at keeping the peace. Sam’s teary confession to Jon about his heritage after being told by Dany that she cooked his father and brother, really sets the tone for the stakes. When the White Walkers show up, its Benjen who speaks on behalf of the Knight King. This could still translate into a fight at Winterfell because the White Walkers’ approach to things is a bit brutal, and Dany is probably still pissed at the loss of her dragon.
- Another reason for her behaviour is that she never was pregnant to begin with, she simply mislead Tyrion into believing she was with a child (by acting pregnant, knowing Tyrion would think she was since she would not have told him directly and that Tyrion values information he obtains by deduction), so she could sell her supposed Heel–Face Turn, and later on continued the lie with Jaime in an attempt to make him remain by her side. As for the scene with Euron, I didn't intepret it as her holding back tears... But is she was, it could be because she has come to accept Maggy the Frog's prophecy as true, which means that she has lost all her children and will never have another one, regardless of Euron's boasts.
- The Dany and Sansa conflict seems to be resolved quickly though Sansa made a point to Dany that the North still wants to remain independent once the war is done. The only conflict remains is Jon revealing to Dany that he's Rhaegar and Lyanna's son which makes him a threat to her claim on the Iron Throne and it's put on hold because of the approaching army of the dead.
- Jossed.
- Confirmed for the first half.
What’s Jon’s most obvious next choice after hearing he’s a Targaryan? He’s probably going to ‘unbend’ the knee. How strong is his connection to his newly paired dragon?
If Dany and Jon don’t cooperate, the Night King stops facing two coordinated dragons. The timing is kind of interesting because he didn’t tell Sam to drop the plot bomb until after Jon paired with his dragon.
Dany has already indirectly threatened Sansa’s life if ‘she doesn’t respect her.’ While this could also help balance the scales so Dany can’t simply burninate everyone once thw White Walker threat is gone, its also possible Bloodraven is helping the Night King survive the battle. ...or it just could be bad writing like the Little Finger fiasco.
The trailers are nagging at me, and so is Dany’s behavior. Since she got to Westeros, she’s been sounding more like her late brother (the one killed for being psycho).
The trailers do not show a single scene with the main characters clearly fighting wights and white walkers. For season 6, the trailers had no problems showing scenes from the Battle of the Bastards.
Then we get into the really odd interactions between certain characters and white walkers.
Sam is ignored not once, but twice. He should be dead. This isn’t a “too pathetic too kill” issue either, because we all know the Go T universe doesnt work like that.
Jon should seriously be dead. At Hardhome, the white walker had no problems killing the Then, but once it was him and Jon, the white walker switched to beating him up.
Fast forward to the wight kidnapping. When Jon is left behind, he’s not swarmed by wights. A talking wight (Benjen) emerges from inside the crowd of wights to save Jon... from hypothermia.
Fast forward to the previews for season 8. We see a hoof drop, which in theory, is a white walker on a horse. Its not the Night King though, because he would be on a dragon. The Night King isnt exactly the type to be afraid of heading his forces from the frontlines.
“But they killed child Umber.” Which is more in line with the course of action Sansa would have taken without Jon’s intervention. Sam is loyal to Stark. House Umber wasn’t.
- Semi-confirmed. The White Walker is destroyed in Episode 3, so the war doesn't take place in the south.
- We have only seen Howland so far in flashback, where we learn that he saved Ned from being killed by Ser Arthur Dayne outside the Tower of Joy, a detail Ned left out of every other retelling of the story to make himself look better (He has been described as someone who knows too much). Nothing Meera said about her family has suggested her father is dead.
- He is about the only significant character left who could credibly be introduced into the narrative at this point.
- Most significantly, in the books he is said to be the only person who has ever managed to successfully get to the Isle of Faces, in the middle of Gods' Eye, the large lake south of Herrenhal. This is supposedly the only place outside the north where weirwoods still stand ... and where the Children of the Forest may yet be, protected from discovery by high winds and raven flocks that attack anyone who gets too close to the island.
- It has been speculated that the Isle of Faces may be the Night King's real goal. Vladimir Furdik said that this season will show that the Night King has a specific person he's targeting. While he certainly seemed to show some interest in Jon and Bran, if they were his final target, it would be obvious by now. But it seems more like he needs/wants them as a way of getting to his real target.
- If he wants to reverse his creation, supposedly destroying the center of the weirwood network on the Isle of Faces may be what he needs to do—what the spiral pattern with the wighted Lord Umber suggests. And Howland may be the one who must stop him.
- Dany still doubts on the authenticity on Jon's parentage since it came from Bran and Sam who are close to Jon. So, Howland would be the one who provide more confirmation on Jon's parentage to Dany.
- Confirmed!
- Bran's connection with the Night King seems to give him the ability to see what the NK is doing, since he knew the NK had used the undead Viserion to break through the Wall. So surely Bran would know if the NK was attempting something like this? Though of course he might still attempt to go for King's Landing; given that the Viserion cannot be caught by anyone except the other two dragons, Bran knowing about it wouldn't change much.
- Jossed. Even if he did split his force, his death would shatter the other army.
- Bran- He's using himself as bait to lure the Night King. Whatever plan Jon cook up to keep Bran safe and to kill the Night King might screw up badly. Bran would probably be killed by the Night King or something worse if the theories of him being/becoming the Night King are true.
- Jossed.
- Theon- Looks very obvious since he finally redeems himself to his sister. Him protecting Bran and dying for him and his adopted family would be close end to his story.
- Confirmed. Died in a suicide charge against the Night King.
- Grey Worm- he gets his last kiss from Missandei. There's a shot of Missandei watching Grey Worm walk away while standing in front of the fence which obviously means that this is the last time they'll see each other.
- Jossed. He survives.
- Beric - He’s synonymous with this battle.
- Confirmed.
- Melisandre - Her arc ends with the Night King.
- Confirmed.
- Brienne- whether we like or not, there's a huge death flag on her head. She may die fighting but she will knight Podrick at her last moments.
- Jossed.
- Jaime - Tough sell, but if he dies, it will be protecting Brienne... and then... wait for it... Cersei gets word he died in the battle she refused to supply troops to. That Cersei, is what the heroes would be facing in King’s Landing.
- Jossed.
- Jon or Daenerys - The question of who gets to sit on the Iron Throne needs to be answered. They can't rule together as King and Queen due to the incestuous nature of their relationship. And while Jon is happy to give up the Iron Throne, Dany sees the potential problems that will arise from keeping him alive. Then there's also the fact that the fiercely independent North won't bow so easily to a Targaryen, and the only reason she's barely tolerated in Winterfell is due to Jon vouching for her. One of them will die in the next episode, most likely while taking down the undead Viserion.
- Jossed.
- Lyanna Mormont: The show is fond of its shocking moments, and what's more shocking than watching a little girl (a badass little girl, but a little girl all the same) get skewered by ravenous undead? Even worse: she might die saving Jon's life, the same way that Lyanna Stark - Jon's real mother - died giving birth to him and begging Ned to keep him safe.
- Confirmed. Horrifyingly and awesomely so.
- Jorah- His story is over now. He already earned his queen's loyalty and made good terms with his cousin. He will certainly die fighting for his queen.
- 100% confirmed.
- Gendry - He was rowing his boat until season 7. They only brought him back to forge weapons. Arya doesnt seem interested in a long-term thing. Unless he winds up on the throne, he’ll probably die.
- Jossed.
- Tormund - Pretty much him and the rest of the Wildlings.
- Jossed.
- Anyone from the Night’s Watch that isn’t Sam or Jon.
- Confirmed. Edd doesn't make it.
- Wouldn't most of the corpses just be bone by now, so that should be a problem?
- There are skeletal wights in the past seasons (e.g. the ones that attack Bran and company in the Season 4 finale).
- Confirmed.
- Semi-jossed. She returns to Winterfell by her lonesome, but she does play a crucial role in the battle.
- The night king is dealt with in episode 3 and Sandor survives, so there is plenty of time for Clegancebowl to happen in the remaining episode.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
Gendry is surrounded by iron and dragon glass. Eventually he’s going to realize folding them together makes Valyrian Steel.
Sam is going to crack open the Citadel since he’s almost certainly going to be Lord of High Garden.
Arya plans to be an explorer, and she’ll be able to blend in and fight, so her chances of getting killed will be much lower than most other explorers. She’ll also have trainees, forming a secular counter-assassin’s guild to the faceless men.
If Bran survives, he’ll accelerate all these endeavors, possibly even helping tracking remnant magical sentients and forming actual peace pacts with them.
Stating the obvious, but it doesnt look like anyone’s done it yet.
No Bolton shield wall, means humans will intermix with wights. Lethal wounds arent readily apparent, so tons of soldiers will be surprise-attacked by the person next to them, as soon as that person dies and jumps back up to their feat.
The Dothraki and House Arryn will attempt cavalry charges, only to get swarmed, killed and added to the ranks of the dead. The Dothraki in particular are used to their foes scattering. Since wights won’t exhibit fear, this approach won’t work.
The Unsullied will fare slightly better, but they will still intersperse with wights. Their armor will make it difficult to tell half way through the battle which Unsullied are still human, and which are undead.
When the trenches are lit on fire, several humans will get pushed into the inferno by the wall of dead.
Another wight army will invade through the crypts, kill most of the people there, and then invade the castle.
Jon will have an epic one-on-one fight, which will distract from just how incompetent he is at command.
Dany, in an act of desperation, will have Drogon torch the area, killing living and dead alike.
- Semi-confirmed. The living is very much completely outclassed by the White Walker force.
- Half Jossed. Missandei bites the dust. Grey Worm's fate is yet to be determined.
- Jossed. Daenerys gets no weapons.
- At this point it's looking that way.
- Confirmed in "The Bells".
- Jossed. For all her horrific actions, Cersei doesn't order her soldiers to burn down Kings Landing. Not that it stopped the city from burning down thanks to Daenerys and Drogon razing the capital.
Trying again:Bloodraven is still evil. It wasn’t the humans who erected the ice wall, but the Night King. He was originally Symeon Star Eyes (before the Star Eyes bit), and chased the “Three Eyed Crow” of the era up north. The Three Eyed Crow’s spirit occupied the Weirwood network. Symeon couldnt follow him, so he volunteered to become a vanguard. The Children turned him into the Night King, and the king in turn, erected the Ice Wall to contain the entity on the north side of the wall.
Fast forward a few centuries, everyone forgot, and the Children were mind ***ed into submission. They captured people to be a vessal for the entity, but all had issues, until Bran. The Night King, realizing there Bran was a big threat, marked him, to try to kill Bloodraven once and for all. The Night King wouldnt let anything get in his way, so he hijacked a dragon, and proceeded to kill everyone in the way, to avoid another lost opportunity.
Bloodraven, knowing what this looked like to others, painted a picture of an evil being, seeking to wipe out all life on Planatus. Getting started... He continues death stares, occasionally warging into ravens to watch the upcoming wars, without really saying much.
- Jossed. Everybody in Winterfell already knew that Arya's the one while the ones outside of winterfell don't care or believe in Cersei's propaganda.
- A) Bring a logical conclusion to the story arc of Arya becoming an agent of death- by her becoming Death.
- B) Be a nice shocking twist, possibly the third Shocking Scene that GRRM told Benioff and Weiss (Shireen burning was the first, Hodor's juxtaposed death and creation was the second).
- C) Completely upend House Stark; Bran needs to have sex in order for Sansa to have an heir in House Stark, now that Arya is the True Enemy.
- Yup.
- Semi-Jossed: Tyrion is the one who institutes an Elective Monarchy.
- Jossed. Jaime returns to King's Landing to get Cersei and their unborn child out of the city. They end up getting crushed to death in the cellar by the crumbling Red Keep.
- Confirmed. She and Jaime die together when the cellar of the Red Keep collapses on them.
- The built-in problem with the 'Seven Kingdoms' concept from the beginning, was that the cultural differences between regions within Westeros were so vast (not to mention the regions themselves) that unifying them all under a single banner was virtually impossible. The North, the areas nearest King's Landing (Reach, Vale, Westerlands, Riverlands, Stormlands), and Dorne might as well be three separate autonomous nations anyway, and essentially operated that way even when Westeros was nominally united under one king. Whoever sits the Iron Throne - assuming the Iron Throne is still there to sit in the end - will probably figure this out and elect to promote peace by giving the North and Dorne their independence. Dorne will continue as always, ruled by its new prince (mentioned but unnamed - did Quentyn Martell survive in this continuity due to the ripple effect of the story changes? Or perhaps the previously unseen Arianne Martell actually rules as 'prince' after her father's death?). As for the North, what remains of it will likely form an uneasy alliance with the wildlings. They're essentially the same people - all First Men descendants that prefer to operate under a very loose clan-by-clan feudal system until a time of crisis hits, where all the clan leaderships elect a single figure to lead them and keep unity for as long as the crisis persists. If Jon Snow 'rules', it will likely be in this latter region, overseeing a rebuild and resettlement of the North and fostering an alliance with Tormund's wildling remnant. Culturally, they meet more or less halfway, particularly with the Wall that once divided them destroyed and unmanned.
- Partially Confirmed: the new king grants the North independence without a fight, and it's implied that other kingdoms are considering their own independence claims. Even then, the new king has enough political power to keep the kingdoms united in trade rather than nationality. Jon and Tormund take the surviving wildlings to re-colonize the Wilds.
- Jossed.
- If Brienne tells Jon, he might attempt to stage a coup, or try to talk Daenerys down.
- If Brienne tells Arya, she might attempt to shoot Daenerys in the head with an arrow or a crossbow bolt.
- If Brienne tells Tyrion, he might confront Daenerys with a crossbow. Maybe even the same crossbow he killed Tywin with, if it still exists?
- If Brienne tells Bran, he might attempt to warg into Drogon to kill her off.
- If Brienne tells Daenerys herself, she would realize that she did the very thing that her father died attempting to do- burn down King's Landing.
- Jossed. She tells nobody.
- Jossed, it's Jon who kills her.
- Jossed, she is killed by Jon.
- Jossed, he's never offered it; the Iron Throne is gone, physically and metaphorically. He's sent to the wall instead.
Furthermore Lightbringer. I don't recall the full prophecy but I recall that Lightbringer was supposed to be born by the Prince plunging his sword into the heart of the woman he loves. Now it was assumed this was blood magic to create some kind of Night King killing superweapon, but what if it was more literal? If the Prince really is Jon, who does still love Dany, despite not wanting to be with her anymore, and he stabs Daenerys with his sword, well given that this sword just ended the dark era of Mad Queens it could be considered a "Light Bringer".
Even if we do assume that Lightbringer is made by blood magic as a superweapon there is still a very powerful weapon that Jon will most likely have to kill. Drogon. Most likely he will be an enemy to Jon, Arya and any allies they still have left, whether under Daenerys' instruction or in vengeance after her death he is likely to become the final opponent for the Jon in the show, and it would add another layer of tragedy, with Jon killing the woman he loved and using the sword it empowered to kill her last child.
Semi-confirmed, Jon does kill Daenerys but he never has to kill Drogon, they just fly away with Daenerys body, also killing her doesn't seem to do anything to his sword.
- Jossed, it's "The Iron Throne".
- Jossed, it's "The Iron Throne".
- ...so no one realizes as Cersei's brother and only living relative Tyrion is technically her heir?
- Is anyone going to be clamoring for another Lannister on the Iron Throne, given the nightmares that were Joffrey and Cersei? And that's assuming he survives the final episode.
- Cersei and Jamie are dead as of Episode 5 and were illegimate regardless as a Baratheon was King with the "Baratheon" children being illegimate. The Lannisters had no rightful claim to the Throne and Tyrion, the only Lannister left smart enough to maneuver himself into power, is unlikely to make a move based on his horror of Dany's actions that he helped enable.
- The Lannister claim to the throne was every bit as legitimate as the Baratheon and Targaryen claims. They all took the throne the same way: By force.
- Jossed. Bran becomes king via Elective Monarchy.
- Jossed. Sansa rules the North and let Bran be king of the six kingdoms.
- Both the wildlings and the Night's Watch elected or chose their own leaders
- How else do you "break the wheel"?note
- Davos, Tyrion and Varys discussed (before they knew Jon's true lineage) of having him and Danaerys share power.
- Jaime pointed out that it didn't take a lord to make a knight.
- Yep it is
- Boy howdy was I wrong.
- Boy howdy were you wrong.
- That seems like a sound rationalization. Bran could have well explored possible futures, Dr. Strange style, and settled on the least-bad way to remove all remaining threats to peace (the White Walkers, Cersei, and Dany) with the fewest casualties in the long term. Most critically, this chain of events created a situation where there was someone both able and willing to permanently end Dany's reign of terror before it could truly begin, when she was vulnerable and didn't yet solidify her power. Given Dany's growing paranoia and her habit of surrounding herself with yes-people, such an opportunity could quite possibly never arise again.
- In addition, the last song on the official "For the Throne" album is entitled "Pray (High Valyrian)", and samples Melisandre speaking the prayer she used to bring Jon back... except the lyrics sung by Matthew Bellamy are about bringing HER back.
- The unnamed prince uses the Martell sigil, so he has to be a family member. The actor stated that he researched Pedro Pascal's performance as Oberyn for inspiration, which is another clue. Also, he resembles what a younger Doran Martell probably would have looked like.
- In ASOIAF Trystane is Doran's third child, having two older siblings, a brother and a sister, ahead of him in line for rulership of Dorne (unlike other Westerosi regions, Dorne arranges the line of succession by age regardless of gender.) Quentyn doesn't survive ASOIAF due to an event that likely wouldn't have happened in the show because of timelines being switched around. He may have been away visiting his mother in Norvos (something he mentions wishing to do in the books) when the crap hit the fan in Dorne. He may have also, in this continuity, been taken away with his mother when his parents separated, with Trystane being left with his father. Naturally, after the Sand coup, someone likely gets hold of him in Norvos and informs him that he should come and take his place in Sunspear as Prince of Dorne.
- Equally possible that Oberyn may have fathered a bastard son that Daenerys legitimized and placed on the throne in Dorne in exchange for his support (similarly to what she did with Gendry). For sake of simplicity, Oberyn's eight bastard daughters in the books were reduced to three. Although a fourth (implied to be only a little girl) is named but never seen. Either way for a man that was, as Tyrion once so eloquently put it, "famous for fucking half of Westeros," and had traveled to other lands as well (in the series Nymeria Sand seems to have heritage from the world's counterpart to East Asia, Yi Ti, which is on the far side of Essos) it would almost strain credulity for Oberyn to have not had bastard children that even he didn't know about. Robert had several by prostitutes just in King's Landing alone.
- This tropers' money is on one of Oberyn and Doran's brothers, who in the books died as children. He looks too old to be Oberyn's kid, or Quentyn for that matter.
- Knowing Bran, he'll probably do what all his predecessors failed to think of to solve the smallfolk uprisings: give more than one shit about them. Redistribute wealth by implementing proper infrastructure and education. Elect their champions as representatives. Write propaganda stories about Sam Tully and Brienne Tarth, and how the 'heroes' of Westeros would have died early and pathetically if not for cooler heads and loyal hearts supporting them all the way. And when they're too angry to quell, just use omniscience-fueled future technology (or a few vials of dragonfire, same difference) to put them down quick and hard.
- The episode mentions a Master of Laws hasn't been selected yet, even though it seems some time has passed since Bran's accession to the throne. Perhaps the reason is because the laws are still being (re)written - probably with the perspective of both women and (former) commoners now that both are represented among the king's inner circle. The type of Master of Laws one would want in that position probably depends on the type of laws that exist.
- Given the above, Gendry would seem to be a logical choice. A bastard with royal blood that began life as a low-class commoner and has seen life as a blacksmith, mercenary, soldier, and now Lord of a Great House. He's also a strong warrior in his prime that would command respect. The issue is that as a newly raised lord, he's probably got a myriad of political issues to work through at his new home of Storm's End before he can afford to leave to serve at King's Landing.
- Children Of The Forest collective - the original hive mind. Their respective members' personalities have long since subsumed into the larger whole. This supermind is capable of thinking, but has no attachment to anything anymore, except for the defeat of White Walkers, and to this end, it is capable of anything. This part dominates TER to the point that it's difficult for the person bearing this hive mind of having feelings or giving a damn about anything. Hence Bran's demeanor before the White Walkers were defeated. It is, however, possible that after their only goal was achieved, they went somewhat silent, leaving the stage for...
- Bran's immediate human predecessor. A lot of his behavior starts to make more sense if he's Bloodraven, but it's not completely necessary. Because after the original hive mind let him do whatever they wanted, this guy immediately set his eyes on the throne. His new body may have been paralyzed, but he still had the powers of mind control and prescience on his side. He drove Daenerys insane and may have influenced "elections" in the Dragonpit. This divide between human and Children Of The Forest part of TER handily explains the disconnect between "I can never be lord of anything" (back when he was still concerned with White Walkers and the Children part prevailed) and "Why do you think I came all this way?" (when the human was allowed to do whatever he wanted to - and he wanted the throne). He acts as cold and emotionless as the hive mind, so that he doesn't seem out-of-character, but inside he's much more human (even if that human is a despicable person).
- Then there's Bran himself, who must be out there somewhere, growing increasingly frustrated with the other two's shenenigans. The general hive mind cost him relationships with his family and only surviving friend, Meera, while his human predecessor destroyed King's Landing and murdered countless innocent power in his bid for power, playing the same game of thrones that destroyed the lives of Bran and his family. There are two options - one, Bran will be further unable to do anything about this, forced to watch as the other two do whatever they want with his body and powers or he will after a long battle prevail and become Bran again, at least for a little while...
- Dorne has been functionally autonomous since joining the Seven Kingdoms, has very few if any cultural ties to the rest of Westeros, and only ever capitulated to the Targaryens because they had the fantasy equivalent to nuclear weapons. From a practical standpoint,
Incidentally, this marks the second time that a declaration of a queen's pregnancy will lead directly to death, as happened to Queen Talisa Stark.
- Confirmed, she dies in the penultimate episode.
- CONFIRMED: He said as much after Sam told him in "Winterfell".
Daenerys has been single-mindedly pursuing the Iron Throne the entire series. Even sharing power is out of the question in her mind, and when Jon's true lineage is revealed, she is going to go Full Mad Queen. It won't matter if Jon presses his claim or not; she'll see him as threat and usurper, and their alliance will fall apart.
- Confirmed, sorta. Dany never realizes that Jon is her enemy until he stabs her to death. She may have betrayed Jon eventually as Tyrion suggested, but Jon betrays her first as it becomes obvious that she's going to burn the whole world down in order to "save" it.