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The Closer is Beatrice, BoJack's mother.
Beatrice not only wanted to convince a customer to keep the LA Gazette, but also wanted to hear more about how her son has been doing.
  • Jossed, BoJack spoke to his mother in season two and she looked and sounded nothing like the Closer.
    • The Closer also clearly has caucasian human hands, even though we never see her face.

Everything that happened to BoJack in episodes 311 and 312 is all a drug hallucination
Sarah Lynn's death for me seemed to first hint at this, since the way she died didn't seem too realistic, as in reality Heroin overdose is actually quite rare(there are usually other factors involved like taking it was other drugs), and when it does happen, it occurs shortly after the user gets the drug into their system. Dropping dead suddenly after several hours of not doing drugs and being perfectly fine like Sarah Lynn did seems like something straight out of an Oscar Bait film and not something that has any actual basis in reality. Plus something about the scene where BoJack abruptly runs off the set of his new show after a little girl says she wants to be like him feels very "off", almost like BoJack is having a nightmare, also the last shot of the last episode of BoJack narrowly avoiding committing suicide after seeing a group of horses running through the desert seems like something right out of a hallucination. Maybe that was the universes way of teaching BoJack a lesson in order to get him to stop his self-destructive behavior.
  • While the show is a Deconstructor Fleet of Hollywood and sitcom plot devices, it's still a work of fiction. Some leaps and bounds have to be made for the sake of entertainment and/or furthering the story. It's also most likely that Sarah Lynn didn't just die from heroin, so much as the tons of other substances she had been putting into her system nonstop for what is implied to be several months if not half a year. Her body probably just gave out after all of the substance abuse. As for BoJack running off the set of Ethan Around in a panic, it seemed to me like he was having a panic attack, which can certainly feel like a waking nightmare, not to mention he's the kind of person who would drop everything to dwell on negative feelings rather than swallow his pride, regardless of who he screws over as a result. The child actress reminding him of Sarah Lynn was probably an especially strong trigger for him.
    • Jossed as of Season 4 - they even got Paul Giamatti to play BoJack in the TV Movie of Sarah Lynn's life.

BoJack will return to stand-up, which will lead to Diane's success
To go along with my point above, after BoJack realizes that he went through a major hallucination, he has a big wake-up call and tries to make amends as best as he can(while doing so he discovers that his meeting with Penny was also a hallucination) and then decides to return to doing stand-up(while Ethan tries to negotiate with the network for a Horsin' Around reunion film), and he makes an impression on everyone when he calls out Hank as being a rapist, which goes viral and inspires Diane to get into contact with other victims and successfully bring down Hank's career once and for all and turning Diane into an overnight success.
  • Jossed. It was never a hallucination, Hank never gets brought down, and BoJack doesn't return to stand-up until season six.

Diane and Mr Peanutbutter will divorce as a result of their new jobs conflicting with one another
To go along with the last point, Mr PB isn't happy about Hank's career being ruined and him getting convicted and sent to prison. So he starts acting less less like himself, in order to become governor, Mr PB has to promise to pass some bills which go against everything Diane stands for(I.E. preventing animals from marrying humans, a "religious freedom" bill which allows business to discriminate against certain animals), which he does to everyone's shock. Diane finds out and puts out a hit piece on her website about the sexual harassment issues with Mr PB's company "Cabracadabra", causing him to get bad press and forcing him and Todd to close down the company. The piece leads to her and Mr PB get into the biggest argument of their lives and finally leading to their divorce. Afterwards the unpopularity of the bills results in Mr PB being killed by a radical anti-authority group (who make his death look like a suicide). Diane is stricken with grief and finds comfort in BoJack (who has just returned from shooting the Horsin' Around reunion special) and they both finally end up sleeping together.
  • Zig-zagged. Mr. Peanutbutter does sign off on some controversial deals that Diane hates, most notably fracking, and Diane does write a hit piece about him, and they have several big arguments, the last one leading to their divorce. However, again Hank never gets convicted, Mr. Peanutbutter never dies nor does Diane hook up with BoJack, and their divorce is rooted in issues beyond their jobs.

BoJack and Diane will write another book called "One Horse Town"
After they hook up, they both realize they need each other to survive, so Diane decides to help BoJack write the book she was originally supposed to write in the first place(an autobiography of his entire life, as supposed to a recount of the days Diane spent with him) which ends up being a success and somehow ends up getting BoJack an Oscar, which he gives to Kelsey(who managed to get her film funded after Diane did a story about her).
  • Jossed, they never even hook up. Though Diane and Kelsey do manage to write a successful book and get funded for a film respectively in season 6, albeit about completely different topics than listed here.

Charlotte is not going to kill BoJack in Season 4. She will DESTROY him!
After the incident back in "Escape from L.A.", she warns BoJack that she will kill him if he ever tried to contact her or her family again. Fast-forward to "That's Too Much, Man", we find Penny freaking out after seeing BoJack on her campus and becomes defensive. Some of the other students, however, are excited to see a movie star, with pop idol Sara Lynn in tow, close by and takes pictures and selfies with him. If Penny doesn't tell her mom what happened, then social media will.

Charlotte will know either way and will strike back HARD. She has her own life and family to think about so, obviously, she's not going to kill him. However, with some planning, and appropriate legal action, BoJack will suffer so much more than he already has, he'll wish she killed him as she initially promised.

  • It seems unlikely that someone like Charlotte would be capable of something so cunning. The worst she may do is try to take him to court for statutory rape or send a group of Moral Guardians after him, all while doing her best not to kill him out of blind rage.
    • They addressed the possibility of statutory rape charges by having Penny say that New Mexico's age of consent is 17 when she propositioned BoJack, although Charlotte publicly shaming him is still a very real possibility, especially if Hank's defenders use it to accuse Diane of hypocrisy.
  • She doesn't come back in season 4, but who knows what the future holds? After all, BoJack had dropped off the map for a full year, but he's now set to star in a TV show.
  • Not only does she not show up until Season 6, she only contacts BoJack to tell him to leave them alone and not drag them into the public eye. She didn't even know about BoJack going to Oberlin until that season.

Sextina's "adopted" baby will start a trend of rich people adopting dolphin (or whatever species it is) babies.
  • Jossed, we never see her baby.

BoJack will avoid his daughter
out of fear that he'll mess her up like he did with Sarah Lynn.
  • Jossed. He considers abandoning her before he messes with her, but inevitably decides to stick around and help her like she wants him to.

BoJack wasn't trying to commit suicide
, At least not intentionally.He just stopped caring about what happened to him.
  • He intentionally put himself in harm's way though, not just by speeding, but also letting go of the wheel. Also, when people attempt suicide, often times they feel a sense of bliss because, from their perspective, all the pain they've been experiencing is about to end. The way BoJack spreads his arms and leans back is like welcoming death.
  • Does he ever really care about what happens to him? In the intro itself, he gets so drunk he falls off his balcony and during the fall, he barely looks scared. BoJack never cared what happened to him.

The Closer is either the wife or daughter of Big Louie from UHF.
They're both only ever shown from behind large office chairs which obscure all but their hands and all of their scenes involve talking to someone on the phone with a certain authority.

Mr. Peanutbutter will die, or at least pull a Disney Death, in season 4.
Based on a few clues found on Reddit:
  • He says something about "he's all talk and no shooting you with a salt rifle" in episode 308.
  • At one point in episode 310 an Old Yeller poster is seen behind him, with a character having a gun pointed to the right side of the poster. The way PB is placed behind it looks like the gun is pointed to his head.
  • Mr. Peanutbutter also seems to have a preference for movies where dogs die in the end, such as Marley & Me, as evidenced near the end of episode 312.
  • Jossed. He gets his life threatened in "Underground", however, though it's by cannibalism and not guns.

Season 4 will be the final season.
There are only so many times you can deliver the same message over and over.
  • Season 4 is, so far, the only one to end with any sort of closure. Plus, while the show has historically been renewed for another season as soon as each one premieres, this one has not. It's possibly that the show is going on a hiatus.
  • Jossed.

Season 4 is going to be about BoJack discovering he's not the ONLY cause of his friends misery.
While he's not a HEALTHY influence on the people around him, he's not the only thing dragging them all down.
  • Ralph is operating under the assumption that Princess Carolyn was miserable because of her work, and NOT because she was going through spectacularly rough patch at the time. Anyone who watches this show knows Carolyn LOVES her work for the most part, and it's pretty likely that for as nice a guy this guy is, he doesn't really understand her that well.
  • Todd basically needs a babysitter more than anything. The dip somehow managed to give away Eight Million dollars as a tip because he wasn't paying attention. His relationship with Emily is most likely gonna hit the rocks hard when this sinks in with her, and will cause a split if she can't handle that aspect of him.
    • I'm pretty sure that wasn't an accident. I mean he did literally nothing to try and undo it and basically just laughed it off. Todd isn't motivated by money, he doesn't need it to bring him happiness because he's already pretty happy, and he's surrounded by rich a-holes who are all miserable.
  • Diane is basically working for Gawker now, and Mister Peanut-butter is going into politics. Enough said.
So Season 4 will be focusing on BoJack slowly discovering that, while he's not a healthy influence on others, he's FAR from the only thing dragging them all down.
  • Somewhat confirmed. While those exact events don't play out, the drama is ultimately spread out across all of the sub plots as everyone deals with their own problems. Even BoJack himself finally decides not to get involved with other people in order to fix his problems.

Season 4 will being with a Happy Ending Override.
Whatever good BoJack has to gain from that herd of wild horses won't last. It's how the last two seasons started, why should this one be any different?
  • A possible scenario is that BoJack gets stranded in the desert and while he's gone, the lives of his friends initially look like they'll get better until they fall apart.
  • Inverted. He doesn't join the horses, but the season ends up being comparatively happy to the last one.

The series ends with BoJack learning that happiness is overrated... but in a good way.
He'll discover that there are more important things in life than his own happiness, which will finally give him some form of closure.
  • There is a Bittersweet Ending but the lesson regarding happiness is more to enjoy whatever happy moments you have now and not dwell on how long they'll last.

It was BoJack, not Sarah Lynn, who died of the heroin overdose, and everything that happens after is his Dying Dream.
Evidenced by the flashback BoJack has after snorting the "BoJack" heroin. Just the way it was structured made me think that it was initiating his dying dream.
  • Jossed. They even made a TV movie about it.

BoJack is going to spend the season completely alone
BoJack has clearly alienated everybody around him. There's no reason to expect anyone to want to be around him. Not even Todd is going to pay him a visit. In his isolation, in his despair, he will realize he needs other people more than they need them.
  • The entire series kicks off with BoJack desperately wanting other people in his life, begging them for the love he never got as a child. In fact, Todd's "The Reason You Suck" Speech in "It's You" is at least partially about how much he fucks other people over because of how badly he wants them to love him. If anything, he needs to learn to take responsibility for himself before expecting anyone else to be there for him.
  • Jossed. The season actually deals more with his relationships, which he spends a lot of time genuinely trying to repair.

BoJack, like Sarah Lynn, had a dream career before he was forced into show business.
It was just one of the many, many ways the two of them were able to bond.

If BoJack ever drops the seasonal Precision F-Strike, it will mean that he's about to kill himself. And actually go through with it.
It's only used when someone had completely given up on him, so it'd be his way of finally giving up on himself. The reason he didn't go through with it at the end of season 3 was because he still had that little bit of hope left in him. Here, he'd probably say something like "Fuck my life" or "Fuck me" before shooting himself in the head.
  • He uses it in season 4 in reference to his mother, and the season ends on a very uplifting note for the titular horse.

Or potentially, his salvation will come from dropping the seasonal Precision F-Strike
The Precision F-Strike has been used against him when people feel the need to wash their hands of him. BoJack is an unpleasant person, but there are people in the show who are even less pleasant than him, and telling them off with the f word will give him the satisfaction he needs. Picture this scenario: His mom, for example, could choose to needle him and berate him at the wrong moment. Or worse she could belittle and attack BoJack's illegitimate daughter. BoJack will finally let loose his anger over years of abuse, and tell his mom to stay away from his daughter the same Charlotte told him to stay from Penny.
BoJack: Everyday of my life, you've been nothing but a plague, ruining everything you've touched!
BoJack: But apparently, I'm not enough for you. You got to make my daughter feel the way YOU DO in your miserable little life. (beat). If you come near my daughter again, I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU!
Beatrice: (she's speechless)
Of course, events will show this telling of his mom really doesn't solve all of his problems, and may even have consequences, but it will be a first step.
  • Satisfying as that would be, it's unlikely. The show is very anti-catharsis for the purposes of depicting life with depression.
  • Somewhat confirmed, but in a hypothetical, non-cathartic way. BoJack plans to say "Fuck you, Mom!" at the end of a live Horsin' Around performance at her nursing home to get back at her for years of abuse, but he never actually says it to her because she panics during the show and gets kicked out to live with him. When he does get the opportunity to talk to his mother while she's lucid, he instead comforts her, taking the high road instead of kicking her while she's down.

The series ends with BoJack going to prison.
...for charges of statutory rape, intoxicating a minor and manslaughter. And he'll finally be in a place where he's expected to wallow in his own self-pity.
  • Confirmed that he goes to prison, but it's because of after all those controversies are made public, he gets sued for millions, and he gets arrested for breaking into his old house after it's been sold off.

One episode will use Johnny Cash's cover of "Hurt"
It's thematically appropriate for someone like BoJack: he's getting up in years and looks back on all of the people who've gone away in his life because of how he's hurt them. Plus, it could work as a cool response to the season 2 finale of Rick and Morty, which used the original.
  • Jossed.

The entire show takes place in the mind of someone with depression, a la St. Elsewhere.
The last episode will zoom out of the cartoon world to a person sitting around as extremely pessimistic situations play out in their head.
  • Jossed.

Diane's family are a Take That! against Family Guy's Running Gag of Meg being abused
Think about it: New England family full of selfish assholes with broad accents who are constantly picking on the only female child for literally no reason. The difference is while Meg's abuse is a joke which eventually got too uncomfortable to be funny, Diane's lead to social anxiety, militant feminism and a serious drive for self-worth. Not to mention the show is already designed to torpedo Family Guy's more infamous tropes.
  • While it may be meant as a deconstruction of that type of humor, it was probably not made as a moral scorn of Family Guy. As shocking as this may be to some, several people that work on BoJack Horseman used to work on Family Guy and similar shows, and BoJack as a show owes much of its success to Family Guy. They may have wanted to explore what that type of environment can do to a young woman, but nothing that would send the message that the Family Guy crew are bad people for utilizing that for humor or that Family Guy fans are bad people for laughing at Meg's fictional suffering, so long as none of them think it's OK to be that way to anyone in real life. Also, the New England part is probably just a coincidence.

BoJack's parent's weren't as bad as he remembers them.
BoJack has a habit of exaggerating or simplifying certain memories, not to mention a lot of the more aggressive stuff seemed to happen when he was especially young, so he'd only have vague memories to go off of anyway, so it's possible that while they definitely treated him poorly, they weren't outwardly cruel as depicted in his flashbacks. The most we see of his mother as an adult is her passive aggressively dismissing Horsin' Around and, later, calling him after reading his book and realizing how he sees her.
  • Probably jossed. Beatrice's own (faulty) memories show her being as verbally abusive to BoJack as his do, though the season does give her a huge Freudian Excuse.
    • All things considered, her memories were fairly vivid, save for some selective amnesia. It's clear at this point that she was as bad as BoJack remembers her.

The herd of wild horses BoJack finds at the end of the last episode seem to be an allegory for Indigenous people (from what little we see of them, at least) and this show loves it's uncomfortable truths. Maybe BoJack will attempt to be The Atoner by trying (and failing) to help stop developers from putting up an oil pipeline through their homeland, maybe by using his celebrity status.
  • Jossed, though the similar environmental issue of fracking gets a lot of focus.

BoJack is an Animated Actor in his appearances outside the show.
In his social media posts, he's noticeably better-adjusted, sociable and respected by his Hollywoo peers, and in one promo he cries while remembering a scene from Orange Is the New Black. The "real" BoJack is an otherwise sane guy with a few hangups, while the character in the Netflix show is exaggerated for the sake of drama.
  • Keep in mind that in-universe, and probably out of universe as well, Diane controls his social media (the picture of the floor on his Instagram is mentioned in the season 3 premiere episode, for example), so that explains why he seems better adjusted on there.
  • Plus, everyone tends to look better on social media. You're only seeing the prettier snippets of their lives and not the legitimate flaws of their real lives. So the social media is the public's perception of BoJack, not the real him!
  • This is likely untrue given how near the end of the series, his social media in-universe was taken over by Netflix execs implying he ran his own account until then.

Diane didn't really join Girl Croosh
Being an obvious setup for season 4, the Genre Savvy people will believe that Diane has accepted Stefani's proposal to work as a writer in her site. However, the scene deliberately ends when Diane is about to give her answer, giving it enough space for people to think whatever they want. This show has often delighted in throwing a wrench over expectations and routes the audience thinks the show is heading to, so why would they cut away? Diane didn't take the job and her forced smile when talking with Mr. Peanutbutter is because she's lying to him about getting the job to assuage him.
  • Possibly jossed. A summary for the first episode of season 4 mentions Diane tracking down the other cast members of Mister Peanutbutter's Place for an interview, presumably for a Girl Croosh article.
  • Dude, it's IMDB. Anyone can contribute in there, so it's not official nor reliable. It could still happen.
    • The season 4 premiere is in fact not as described above at all; it's about Mr. Peanutbutter beginning to run for governor.
  • Jossed by the latest Season 4 teaser, which shows Diane hanging out with Stefani in what's obviously her base of operations and getting praised by the mouse woman for her work.

Season 4 will be about BoJack shunning society to life with the wild horses, only to be forced back into it by Charlotte taking revenge on him.
  • Jossed on all accounts, though he did live as a recluse for a full year.

BoJack will try and fail to connect with his illegitimate daughter.
It'll be trying to get Charlotte back all over again.
  • Not even BoJack is that self-deluded. He understood when Herb didn't want to see him again. He didn't want to visit Penny because he was afraid of screwing the pooch further. He's probably dreading a reencounter with Charlotte. Still, BoJack might still fail at connecting with his daughter, not for lack of trying.
  • Another possibility is that the daughter will seek him out. Each season seems to have it's one brick in the wall that gets pulled out and undoes everything BoJack has worked for: in season 1, it's rewriting his memoir; season 2, it's abandoning his movie and visiting Charlotte; season 3, it's celebrating his Oscar nomination before knowing whether or not he actually won. All of these end in disaster and bring him back to square one in terms of bettering himself. In season 4, he'll finally be on his way to a healthier life and will look like he's finally making progress... only for the daughter to show up and rope him back into that toxic, destructive live he finally got away from.
  • Or it'll be a subversion! The daughter will be a Bait-and-Switch, showing up as the thing that undoes BoJack's process, but he'll finally have his shit together well enough to be the good parent he always wanted to be. He's still on the road to recovery, but it'll ultimately be the fresh start he always wanted and the beginning of a beautiful friendship. Then Charlotte will come back at literally the last second to fuck it all up.
  • He tries to connect with her despite his fears of fucking her up, but she overdoses on weight loss supplements that his senile mother mixed into her coffee and gets the blame for it. He does reconnect with her after, but as her brother, not father.

BoJack will be Out of Focus for most, if not all, of Season 4.
He isn't mentioned anywhere on IMDb's description of the Season 4 premier, which appears to be A Day Inthe Limelight for Diane, Mr. Peanutbutter and Todd & Emily. Either they'll be a slow buildup to The Reveal of where he is or we, like the characters, will be completely in the dark.
  • The Season 4 premiere description originally on IMDb was false, but that particular episode does not feature BoJack at all. The rest of the season, however, follows his arc regarding his possible daughter and mother. Word of God says that how long they'd stretch out the "Where's BoJack?" angle was a topic of heavy discussion in the runup to Season 4.
  • Ultimately jossed. While the title character of this show is (mostly) absent during the season premiere, he still plays a big role in all the other episodes.

Mr. Peanutbutter will be the one to drop Season 4's f-bomb.
  • Jossed. BoJack plans to say it to his mother.

The F-bomb dropped in season 4 will be by BoJack himself to his mother.
  • Semi-confirmed. He wants to say "Fuck you, Mom!" to her, but when he's finally given the chance months later, opts to take the high road.

BoJack will try to reconnect with his mother
BoJack's at his lowest point. His surrogate daughter is dead. His closest friends besides Diane are alienated from him. His attempts to get back in the spotlight backfired. Seeing how low he's sunk, he'll trace his steps back to the woman who bore him. Possibly by finding out she's dying.
  • Semi-confirmed - he does reconnect with her, and she does have a terminal case of some form of dementia, but it's only at Hollyhock's urging that he spends any time with Beatrice at all.

This might end up as a Parents as People situation. BoJack will admit that while his mother and father did mistreat him, he's used them as a scapegoat for his failings and poor decisions instead of doing serious introspection and changing for the better. On her end, Beatrice will admit she and her husband used BoJack as a scapegoat for their regrets and failings. They reach an understanding where they can at least be civil to each-other.

  • If his mother is dying, then it would make sense. Both of them are at their lowest points and misery loves company. The best case scenario might be that the two of them make peace and BoJack, earning his mother's approval for the first time in his life, will be able to cry in front of other people. On the other hand, nothing that positive ever happens on this show. Also, BoJack's depression seems to at least partially stem from his desperate need for approval from parental figures, and he may simply end up spending his mother's last few days allowing her to abuse him again because it's familiar to him and the closest thing he has to nostalgia right now.
  • Confirmed. He reconnects with his mother for Hollyhock's sake, and Beatrice ends up living with them when BoJack accidentally gets her kicked out of her nursing home. Much of the season deals with BoJack's refusal to accept his mother as any better than before, despite her faulty memory due to dementia resulting in her being less abrasive.

The herd of wild horses won't be mentioned at all in season 4.
The jogger's advice to BoJack at the end of season two that "it gets easier, but you've gotta do it every day" goes completely unmentioned in season three. BoJack probably just turned around and went right back to the set of Ethan Around after he saw them. They'll never be mentioned again and BoJack will resume his misanthropic ways without a second thought.
  • Confirmed, save their brief appearance in episode 2, which picks up at the end of the season 3 finale.
    • But also Jossed, since he doesn't go back to Hollywoo. If anything, the herd sparked his desire to go to the summer house.]

BoJack will have an arc about joining a religion in the hopes of a quick fix for his issues. It will not work.
Apart from Judaism (which is mostly depicted as cultural in-universe), religion hasn't really been tackled in BoJack yet. Even the anti-abortion strawmen the show skewered were far more conservative focused than religious focused. BoJack is a character always looking for a straightforward solution to his problems, so he doesn't actually have to improve himself or radically alter his behavior. Joining a religion like Christianity would give him an outlet to start looking at his problems as, "I asked God for forgiveness, so now it’s all better!" and he will, at first, view Hell as a good enough reason not to kill himself, since his afterlife would be worse than the life he’s already living.

The problem would then come in the fact that finding God wouldn’t chemically re-balance him, wouldn't drive away all his addictions, and gives him an easy-out for dodging responsibility. Ultimately culminating in a demand of, "Why aren't I better? This was supposed to make me better!" Whether this leads to BoJack abandoning his faith or being forced to recognize it still doesn't fix all his problems, we still get a heavy arc loaded with deconstruction and more angst for BoJack.

  • Especially since so many celebrities become born-again Christians after getting sober. Of course, you could combine this with the mainstream's obsession with cultural appropriation and have BoJack get involved with a more "exotic" religion, like Rastafarianism or Kabbalah, but again, it'd be less of an actual lesson he learns about how to better himself and more of a "hippy-dippy magic shit that makes all my problems to away."
  • Jossed for now. However, he does find some solace in a reenactment of an 18th-century horse church meeting, particularly the preacher's talk of self-forgiveness in Season 6's "The Face of Depression," but it's not clear whether it's more the religion aspect or the unity of being among his kind that he's drawn to.

The above-mentioned religion arc would feature a "Generic Christian Rock Song".
Generic Christian rock song,
Glory to the Son!
No swear words in the lyrics,
And abstinence is fun!

A Story Arc will appear with Charlotte pursuing BoJack and trying to kill him for stalking her daughter, but...
By the time Charlotte has found BoJack, he has found some kind of happiness, has shaped up, or does an incredibly selfless thing. Charlotte, while still not forgiving BoJack, realizes that he is no longer the creepy jerk who nearly slept with her daughter. After being mentally and physically exhausted by her pursuit, she decides revenge isn't worth it, and just goes home to be a mom.
  • That, or she'll be even angrier. Reformed or not, to her, this is still the Dirty Old Man who tried to rape her daughter, and the fact that he isn't utterly destroyed by her attempts to take revenge on him for this horrible thing he's done will piss her off the point she won't even give him the benefit of confrontation and try to murder him where he stands while going full-on primal rage.
  • Charlotte doesn't appear in Season 4.
  • By the time Charlotte finally returns in Season 6, she clearly would rather just avoid getting her family into trouble. She didn't even know until then that BoJack was even at Oberlin.

Princess Carolyn will be involved in a legal battle regarding the statutory rape of “Vincent Adultman” (Whether she actually did anything illegal or not)
BoJack has a tendency to turn one-off jokes and cutaways into plot points, and Vincent was certainly much bigger than that. Despite their entire relationship involving copious amounts of Idiot Ball on Princess Carolyn’s part, she could still be accused of having performed statutory on the not-of-age Kevin actually inside the trench coat. And particularly because BoJack himself has been on the edge with Penny before, Princess Carolyn having a storyline about the proceedings could give us a lot of commentary on Double Standard Rape: Female on Male, Princess Carolyn being Ignorant of Their Own Ignorance and a number of other topics.
  • Jossed. "Vincent" is nowhere to be seen, not even mentioned.

Joelle Clarke will be featured semi-prominently in season 4
Considering Sarah Lynn's presence as a side character and the upped importance Bradley Hitler-Smith god towards the end of season 3, Joelle Clarke remains the only member of the Horsin' Around crew to not be givin any promince besides her part in Still Broken.
  • Jossed. None of the original Horsin' Around gang shows up.

Judah's deal with Vigor over VIM could still be standing (and potentially screw up Princess Carolyn's part).
Last time VIM was around, Judah had let up in the air the proposition he had made to Charlie Witherspoon about merging with Vigor while keeping it a secret from Princess Carolyn, either out of concern for her pride and self-delusion at the moment or because of its backstabbing implications. Sure, the agency closed down near the end of season 3, but it was never specified if the deal was called off or was still on foot and by Judah's reluctance when Princess Carolyn lavishes him for being a good confidant and assistant, he could have gone through it either way. Since now VIM is now reopened and repurposed as a manager business, Judah could try again, not out of malice but thinking it would be the best for the company. And it's not like PC could make a clean break: he now owns part of the company per their agreement, remember?

OR the deal has been revoked, yet Princess Carolyn still discovers Judah's betrayal and loses all trust on him
VIM sank, so the offer of merging was called off. Still, Princess Carolyn at some point finds out through one source or the other, probably by browbeating Charlie, Judah's independent decision. This will cause a rift between the once singleminded duo: Princess will be even more guarded than before, which will mean more deals in person rather than proxy, and Judah will find himself increasingly isolated and hated by PC and the rest while trying to earn Princess's forgiveness. This will cause VIM to once again fail due to the division between partners.
  • Confirmed. Charley spent the money on the Utah Jazz instead, but PC still fires Judah for violating her trust.

Judah will quit, be replaced or betrayed, leaving VIM behind.
Princess Carolyn's secretaries have a tendency to have bad luck and not last very long in the job as PC's Number Two: betrayed, struck with payback, let go by incompetence or demoted; some screwed by fate, others, their own stupidity, and others by Princess Carolyn herself. Lora, Charlie, Rutabaga, Stewart...seems logical Judah might be the next to go. Could it be a curse?
  • Princess Carolyn fires him instead.

Lora will confront PC when they encounter again
Lora doesn't seem like one to dwell too much over this, so she might decide to not pursue PC, simply wanting to forget everything. Rather than a grand shouting contest, Lora will meet with Princess by chance and during an apparently pleasant conversation, PC will bring up why she "didn't support [her] over Pegasus". Lora will try being...not "nice", but "cordial"...and PC will keep pushing the subject until she accuses her of "paying her back with the wrong coin after all the years they spent together supporting each other". Lora won't take this well and subtly call out the devious cat over her e-mail deception causing her not to be promoted. PC will try apologizing or deny everything, but Lora will just decide to walk out on her without another word.
  • Jossed. Lora doesn't have a major role after Season 3.

Diane and Mr. Peanutbutter will bond with BoJack's daughter better than BoJack himself.
With BoJack on a path to improve himself, the possible debris that might come reckoning courtesy of his bad decisions and that he's been missing on his daughter's life for the better part of her life and can't bond with her effectively, her daughter will start interacting a lot more with his friends: Mr. Peanutbutter and Diane especially. She'll start bonding with Diane over shared ideals, feminist stances and wanting to make a difference, with the mare seeing her as a role model and Diane being fond of her in ways not too dissimilar like a big sister. Likewise, she'll bond just as well with Mr. Peanutbutter for all the reasons her father doesn't: she'll see his optimistic attitude and daft obliviousness rather than as a source of mild amusement at best and infuriating examples of shallowness and unobtainable happiness at worst like her father BoJack, more like a way to push down the feelings of darkness, emptiness and self-questioning that have started plaguing her (and no doubt leaving her fearful she might end up like the depressed horse himself). That they're capable of being closer to her than he is will be the trigger for BoJack's return to form: even if he's improving, what's the point if he's not capable of being of help to his own offspring?
  • Jossed. Todd meets her first, but she spends most of her time with BoJack and Beatrice and almost never interacts with the other main characters.

Stefani will become infatuated with Diane.
During their time working together, Stefani will show herself to dislike men altogether and try to maintain a firm grip on women empowerment through her Author Tract, GirlCroosh. The closeness of both will cause a change on Stefani as her crush grows, with the desire to dominate and maintain an unbreakable solid façade to keep everything going contrasting with her desire to open up to Diane and possibly allow herself to be vulnerable and even mushy with someone else. Not helping this will be their Incompatible Orientation, with Diane trying to emphasize her being straight (without pissing off or insulting her boss). OR maybe she does reciprocate but rather than acting on it, she would try to keep the professional act and be faithful to her husband.
  • This could serve to put in another parallel between BoJack and Diane, considering the former's shattered friendship with Herb Kazazz. The earliest sign of friction between BoJack and Herb came when the latter revealed his homosexuality to the former, and Herb being caught in a sex scandal started the roller coaster that destroyed their friendship. Stefani revealing both her lesbianism and attitude towards Diane could also put friction between the two, whether Diane reciprocates or not. It could even reach the point of Diane ending up in a Friend-or-Idol Decision like BoJack did all those years ago, possibly by Stefani being caught in a nasty sex scandal of her own (especially fitting considering how her family is a mouse version of the Hiltons) that threatens her reputation, if not her career. Diane could be in a position where she finally has an opportunity to finally build a career beyond online writing articles for clickbait, but to do so she'd have to ruin Stefani. If she agrees to it, she'd walk down BoJack's path of getting success but burning a bridge with a close friend (especially if Stefani tells Diane she'll never forgive her betrayal). If she refuses, she'd have something to show that for all her flaws she didn't do what BoJack did when the chips were down and stuck by her friend.
  • Seemingly jossed. Stefani's sexual orientation never comes into play, nor does she seem particularly interested in Diane that way.

BoJack and Mr. Peanutbutter will become an Official Couple at the end of the series.
There's enough Ho Yay going with them to be in a page and Mr. Peanutbutter has always been very eager to be someone of importance to BoJack. BoJack, for his part, has admitted he hates Mr. Peanutbutter's luck, not Mr. Peanutbutter himself. It could serve as rather ironic, yet sweet way to end the series: two rivals who once competed to earn someone's love end up with each other after having limed their differences and developed as more healthy people. Not the first time it would happen. Likewise, it would serve as a fitting end: at the beginning, BoJack entered Hollywoo (then Hollywood) with a gay partner, Herb, whose relationship started to crumble when he revealed his feelings and sexuality toward the horse and BoJack admitted at the time he was straight. Then, he would exit Hollywood in a same-sex relationship with the Labrador he once despised.
  • It's plausible, but let's remember that BoJack may not hate Mr. Peanutbutter as a person, but he hates everything Mr. Peanutbutter represents. Just thinking about him reminds BoJack that someone who didn't work as hard or pay as many dues as he did managed to become his peer because he's capable of the one thing BoJack isn't: being happy. Most importantly, Mr. Peanutbutter doesn't understand why someone can't just "be happy" any more than BoJack hand understand how someone else can, so even if he is attracted to BoJack, he'd be a terrible partner. It's implied in season 3 that this attitude is ultimately going to break up his and Diane's marriage in the future. It's less likely that he and BoJack are ever going to even become friends, let alone boyfriends, if he keeps it up.
    • The below guess of PB having a breakdown after his campaign for senator fails thanks to Diane might address the issues you noted.

BoJack will end the series alone, but having found peace within himself and his actions. A.K.A. Mad Men's ending.
No friends, no fame, no family...yet he has found what he needs to sustain himself and even somewhat keep some people around him not as emotional limbs, but as equals and good friends. The last episode will be BoJack overseeing Hollywoo one last time as he heads out to his new life or continues living in Hollywoo with a new found sense of renewal and place.

The series will end in a surprise Happy Ending...or as close as this world will allow.
Basically, Earn Your Happy Ending all along. BoJack finally has what he needs, is in a stable relationship and no longer chases the spotlight, Diane has acquired some success and is headed to a better future, Mr. Peanutbutter has embraced both his darkness and his obliviousness, Princess Carolyn has stricken balance between work and personal life and Todd is....still Todd. The rest of the cast...well, they can have either a Bittersweet Ending or a Downer Ending, but for once things have gone peachy keen for our heroes. Hell, it could be a satire on how Only the Leads Get a Happy Ending.
  • One of the show's major themes is that drama doesn't just "wrap up" like it does in fiction, which is why every season ends with a Bittersweet Ending. That said, the closest that this should could come to a proper closure would be similar to how season 1 ended: everyone's still got their own baggage to work out, but not so much that it's all-consuming. Things are "good enough" that everyone will be able to continue with their lives with slightly less anxiety and be able to deal with it as it comes.

BoJack's daughter is the result of his affair with Bradley's mother
Bradley's father found out about the affair when Nora became pregnant with BoJack's baby towards the end of "Horsin' Around." After the show ended, he took Bradley to Washington state while Nora stayed in California. Hence why Bradley never brings up his half-sister: he doesn't know she exists either.
  • Jossed. She's the result of Butterscotch's affair with their maid.

Things are going to go badly for Vanessa Gecko and Rutabaga Rabbinowitz
Oh sure, it looks like the two have an happy ending, but this isn't a show that lends itself to certain happy ends for its cast. Vanessa has shown that for all the glee she has over getting one over on PC, she's a horrible agent who doesn't know the clients she manages and it's too easy for her deals to fall apart, hence how her agency was failing with her losing to PC at every turn until she sabotaged her. Rutabaga has already burned his bridges with both his old agency and PC. The breakdown can go in a couple of ways. One way is that the movie they're handling is a flop and that the backlash against it backfires onto them. Another is that Rutabaga sinks into old habits and ends up having an affair with Vanessa that ends up being exposed to their respective spouses.
  • Jossed. Rutabaga's plans regarding Courtney Portnoy do fall through, but it's Princess Carolyn who ends up getting scapegoated and fired as her manager.

Mia McKibben will return as an asexual friendly sorta Second Love
So far, Mia is the only other woman Todd's age or around it that he has, if not a mutual attraction considering their Belligerent Sexual Tension, then a mutual affection with. Even with his asexuality, the knowledge that Emily had sex with BoJack might make things too awkward between them (especially if he discovers that BoJack didn't manipulate or coerce her into sex) leading to them drifting them apart again. Even with how he tricked her into giving him Salinger's reward, Mia might still have a fondness (or kinda fondness) for Todd.

Todd and Mia meet up again in Season 4 (possibly when Todd gets involved with a Gekko-Rabbinowitz project assuming Mia went alongside Salinger when he quit working with PC) and while the two are a bit cold at first, they do end up more or less burying the hatchet. It reaches the point where Todd is comfortable enough with Mia to tell her about his asexuality and how he's not honestly not really looking for another girlfriend. Mia might actually be satisfied with this, not being interested in a boyfriend either from being too focused on her career or even being asexual herself. If the latter, she might bond with Todd as a kindred spirit.

  • Mia in particular hasn't returned, but something similar as described here happens with Yolanda, a less-abrasive but just as no-nonsense new character who helps Todd fix his clown dentist business, and asks him out due to her also being asexual.

Princess Carolyn's new beau being Stefani Stilton's brother will be important during Mister Peanutbutter's campaign and the smear attack on him courtesy of Stefani
This isn't the show to include two characters surnamed Stilton, have one apparently plot to smear a man who from all evidence is a genuinely kind dog, have the other date BoJack's former agent, and not have the connection between two Stilton's play a role. This can range from Ralph possibly slipping his sister a tip about Mr. Peanutbutter to him possibly even confronting her about her work. If the latter, how it goes down just might depend on their relationship.
  • Jossed. Ralph never gets directly involved in the election subplot.

BoJack's Bastard Daughter attends the same school as Penny
She heard about BoJack showing up at her college in Ohio and quickly did all she could to find him. This'll be a plot point when BoJack's time in New Mexico comes back to haunt him, possibly by Charlotte finding out he came to her daughter's college and doing the appropriate action.
  • Alternatively, the daughter and Penny know one another, but only passively. Maybe they were friends in elementary school but never stayed in touch. Piggybacking off of a different guess, the daughter may reenter BoJack's life and things will be okay with them at first, and my sheer coincidence they'll start to bond just as BoJack is accused of statutory rape by the mother of someone she used to know and his "ruining her" as a result will be the seasonal catalyst that sends him back to square one with his progress in life.
  • Jossed. She turns out to have been raised in Wichita, Kansas, and has no connection with the Moore-Carsons.

Mister Peanutbutter will crash and burn hard
He's about to run for office with all the backstabbing and skullduggery coming with it. His wife has not only been approached by Stefani Stilton for what'll obviously be a smear job on him, but also grown more and more dissatisfied with her marriage. He just had a scare with his brother's possible death and his ex-wife has come back into his life to work with him for his campaign. The stage is set for a major breakdown.

Picture this: PB runs for governor. Things go well at first, although with cracks in it. Then Diane writes her article for Girl Croosh which ends up going viral (possibly in a situation where it happens against her will after she resolves to not publish it but someone, maybe Stefani, does it anyway), with the media harping on a poor choice of words from PB or pinning the blame for something on him. Whichever happens, the article smacks a heavy blow to PB's campaign and combined with the pressure he's under making him perform worse under the spotlight, he loses with his reputation ruined. His ex-wife blows up at him, telling him that how he is (passive-agressive, dishonest about what bothers him, doesn't know when to keep his distance) made her leave him.

PB then confronts Diane in the wake of his failed campaign. They have a fight where their shared dissatisfaction, contempt, and dissapointment pours out heavily. One calls for divorce with the other supporting it. The divorce happens. Which combined with his tarnished career and reputation makes him lost. Complete with a Peanutbutterized version of the show's intro.

Where PB goes from there is a tossup. Perhaps he meets up with BoJack, who also being at his lowest point accepts PB acccompanying him. The two could bond over their recent failures and turmoil.


  • PB and BoJack bonding over their respective misery could be a Call-Back to Diane's misery after coming home from Cordovia making him cling to his own unhappiness in season 2 and will be this season's catalyst for undoing all of his progress.
  • From the teaser, we can see that something will happen that results in him attacking Diane, intercut with Diane leaving a message on BoJack's phone saying that, for once, she needs him. If PB is really throwing a fit due to the fallout of his campaign, maybe both of them will try to seek out BoJack at the same time because they desperately need his company, but since he's not home, they'll just be left to their own devices (i.e., they make up, they keep fighting, they break up, etc.)
  • As for the Peanutbutterized version of the show's intro, BoJack's Twitter page has recently been "hijacked" by PB's campaign as promotion for the fourth season. Foreshadowing, perhaps?
    • The intro never gets redone, but the first episode of the season redoes the end theme to be about Mr. Peanutbutter!

Princess Carolyn will subconsciously sabotage her relationship with Ralph Stilton until they breakup
It's already been hinted that for all her claims of being more level-headed and in control than BoJack, PC is in her own way just as self-destructive as him even if she's better at hiding it. Her savior complex made her cling to BoJack all those years. She brokeup with the seemingly successful and in-control Vincent Adultman since his apparent lifestyle didn't appeal to her. She's already had some tension with Ralph over her running full speed into being a manager despite practically no difference between it and an agent. This'll get worse when PC sinks into old habits.

Instead of doing the seemingly obvious scenario of Ralph being a Jerkass, the collapse of his relationship with PC will come to down to her being a damaged woman at her core who deep down craves the conflict and turmoil she had in her years with BoJack. She'll act passive-aggressively towards Ralph and do all she can to make things uncomfortable. It reaches the point where Ralph admits his doubts about their relationship to PC, who having already lost the spark will agree and ask for a breakup.

BoJack was originally intended to be nominated for the Oscar...
But he was disqualified from it when word got out in the nominations room that it really wasn't BoJack acting for Secretariat

One episode will use the song "Misery" by Soul Asylum in a scene were all the main characters bond over their misfortunes.
Everyone is at their lowest point, all of their efforts have faltered them, and they're all miserable. But they say misery loves company, and everyone will put aside their differences and take comfort in a heartwarming moment where they realize that everyone feels like this sometimes.
  • While that exact event doesn't occur, the ending of "Underground" has all of them standing around in the remains of Mr. Peanutbutter's house chit-chatting about Ethiopian food.

The show will find a way to get Charlotte to confront BoJack's over trying to sleep with Penny and still not give a straight answer as to their intentions in "Escape From LA".

Penny never told her mother that BoJack came to her school.
Seeing him was clearly a really bad trigger for her, so it's obviously not something she'll want to bring up right away, so either this arc isn't going to go anywhere or she'll find out on her own.
  • Or it'll be a Double Subversion, and a callback to Mr. Peanutbutter's Clue, Evidence, and a Smoking Gun jokes in the first two seasons.
    BoJack: How did you find out??
    Charlotte: Well, let's see: it was all over social media, local news stations were reporting it and, oh yeah, Penny told me!
  • Quite possible, since Charlotte doesn't appear in Season Four.
  • The original theory is confirmed, as Charlotte is shocked when Penny reveals it to her in Season Six.

BoJack will bond with his daughter but...
Charlotte could still be out for his blood, and several nasty things could occur.
  1. Charlotte could mistake BoJack's daughter for a teenage girl he's trying to chat up. Their affectionate behavior would only add fuel to that perception. Charlotte ends up beating BoJack badly in an attempt to "defend" the girl from BoJack, only to make herself look like a monster in front of the girl:
Charlotte: (bending down to the girl): Are you okay sweetheart? He didn't touch you, did he?
BoJack's Daughter: (scared and crying) AM I OKAY? You just beat up my dad!
Charlotte: Your dad?! (she looks back at forth between BoJack and the girl, and puts 2 and 2 together) Oh, Crap!!
  1. Charlotte could tell BoJack's daughter about what BoJack did to Penny. This would shatter their bond completely, potentially with BoJack's daughter telling him to "Stay the fuck away from me!"
  2. In her rage, Charlotte could end up attacking BoJack's daughter by mistake.
  • Jossed. Charlotte doesn't appear, save for a very brief mention of her.

BoJack will try take his revenge on Charlotte but it will backfire.
After Charlotte threatened to kill BoJack if he tries to contact her or her family. Then BoJack would developed a strong anger and hatred towards her. He would plan to assassinate her with a sniper rifle, but it will back fire and accidentally shoot her children Penny and Trip in the head causing them to die. Charlotte and her husband Kyle would be horrified and Charlotte would catch BoJack in shock with his sniper rifle.
  1. BoJack will try to run away from the incident he caused, but the police will stop him. And Charlotte and her husband Kyle catches up to him, then Charlotte would go ballistic on BoJack, but the police will restrain her.
  2. BoJack Bojack would go to court along with his friends Mr.Peanut Butter, Todd, Princess Carolyn, and Diane. Charlotte will testify against BoJack for the murder of her 2 children Penny and Trip, then BoJack will confess that he was trying to kill Charlotte and not her children and then the people (including his friends) will be horrified.
  3. The Judge would be about to sentence BoJack to death, but someone will convince the judge to spare him and halved him shipped to exile instead. Then BoJack will be stripped from his wealth and his stardom for good. His friends, Charlotte and her husband Kyle will never hear from him ever again.
  4. BoJack Would go to China as his exile to star a new life there. He will befriend a female panda whom will suddenly fall in love with him.
  5. Charlotte and her husband Kyle will attend to Penny and Trip's funeral with their family mourning then in agonizing pain and sorrow. Then Charlotte will breath heavily with her angry stare, vowing to one day to hunt BoJack down and kill him for destroying her pride and joy, by killing Penny and Trip.
  • The Fuck?! Suggesting that BoJack would even want to do that is insane. He's a flawed character, but not in the "kill my enemies" way. He hates himself and his life and has never suggested that he wanted to kill Charlotte.
  • Jossed. Thank the gods.

BoJack will eventually learn what clinical depression is.
Despite being the show's Central Theme, the word "depression" has never been used in the show proper. BoJack may know the sources of his unhappiness, but his setbacks lie at least partially in trying to solve all of them individually. And while he's intelligent and well-read, he tends to think in shallow, basic concepts, so being able to compile everything under one umbrella term would theoretically set him on a clearer path to exactly what he need to do to at least keep it under control well enough that he can at least live with it. Either it'll be the way the show ends, with BoJack on a smoother yet still-rocky path to his idea of normality or he'll use it as a catch-all excuse for everything terrible he does in the future until that blows up in his face as well.
  • Jossed, at least for this season. And since his methods of becoming a better person are finally working out for him, it doesn't sound like he'd have much use with this knowledge.
  • ...or, he'll learn what it is and either spiral into Disability as an Excuse for Jerkassery, or at least come close to it, or try to brush it off like no big deal before accepting that it's just part of who he is and he has to own it, much like Todd and his asexuality.
  • Clinical depression finally does come up in the first half of season six, but it's mostly Mr. Peanutbutter who deals with it (in that he becomes a spokesperson for it without fully understanding it) and Diane who suffers from it and needs antidepressants.

BoJack's daughter will be named after a Horsin' Around character, possibly Sabrina.
We can assume her mother liked Horsin' Around (a little too much), and it would be terrible timing for her to be named after that character in the wake of Sarah Lynn's death, especially since she was like a daughter to BoJack.
  • Jossed. Her name is Hollyhock.
    • Furthermore, the rest of this theory is also Jossed. While BoJack and Hollyhock initially assume that they're father and daughter, and they actually do meet one of BoJack's old flames (a lonely woman who, ironically enough, really was an obsessive fangirl who once led BoJack's fanclub); but it turns out that not only was that aforementioned fangirl not Hollyhock's mother, but BoJack isn't even her father either (he's actually her half-brother)...

The cabin Bojack drives to in the trailer isn’t real, it’s part of another Mushroom Samba
It appears to be the same cabin from Bojack’s drug trip back in "Downer Ending" in which he had a hallucination of a happy life in Maine with Charlotte. But given its more dilapidated, abandoned nature, even in that “what if” scenario he managed to screw things up. BoJack may have become too introspective to even imagine a world where he is happy.
  • Alternatively, it's is a real place, perhaps one that BoJack holds some kind of sentiment for. Since the fantasy version of it was part of a timeline where everything in his life could have been perfect, maybe it was him remembering a place where he felt safe, like the home of a caring relative or somewhere he'd run away to when hiding from his parents. Visiting it could be his last ditch effort to find something else external to bring him happiness, and finding it in ill repair will just be a sad reminder of how misguided his attempts to be happy are.
  • Actually, a close up on the mailbox reads "Sugarman"- as in, his mother's maiden name. So maybe it's not exactly a comforting environment to return to, but one he thinks he needs to go to get back to his roots or confront them.
  • This could disprove an above theory: the daughter won't be the one brick in the wall that gets pulled out and undoes BoJack's progress. This will.
  • It's his family's summer home. He fixes it up over the course of a year, then eventually destroys it to move on from the past.

Later on, BoJack's mother will meet up with her bastard granddaughter and actually be kind to her, to the surprise of BoJack himself
Perhaps it's her way of atoning for how abusive BoJack's childhood was. Perhaps she sees something of herself in the girl, especially if she's just as driven to succeed as BoJack was at her age. Perhaps it's just that she's a girl. Whichever it is, Beatrice will dote on her grandchild and show a side of herself she hardly if ever has shown to BoJack. The horseman himself will have a mixed attitude about this.
  • Bill Burr once told a story about his rageaholic father pissing him off by being way to nice to his future wife, disproving all of the horror stories Burr had told her about him. Something similar could happen here: whatever reason Beatrice may have for being nicer to her granddaughter, to BoJack, it'll just be her fucking with his head by seemingly disproving that she was the monster responsible for his own misery, and he'll either be angry that she's trying to chicken out of her responsibility for her past mistakes or he'll doubt his own negative feeling about her, allowing his abuser to once again control his life.
  • It could also relate to an above-proposed theory: BoJack will tell Beatrice to leave his daughter alone, thinking that he's doing the right thing. But since the daughter sees Beatrice as a nice person rather than as an abusive monster like BoJack does, she'll think that he's possessive and say something like "I don't know why I decided to seek you out!" which will restart BoJack's seasonal downward spiral back to square one. Also related to that theory, he could drop the seasonal Precision F-Strike at his mother, only for the daughter and the mother to throw their respective ones right back at him, meaning that he's finally destroyed two relationships at the same time.
    • Semi-confirmed. Beatrice is suffering late stages of dementia and mistakes BoJack for her maid, not treating him with contempt at the level she had before, but she gets along quite well with Hollyhock... that is, until she unintentionally causes Hollyhock to overdose on weight loss supplements. Also, Hollyhock is her husband's bastard daughter with their maid.

Mr. Peanutbutter running for governor will be a thinly-veiled metaphor for Donald Trump's presidential campaign (or at least what they could write about it with Production Lead Time being a factor).
And like the abortion episode, it will be a completely unambiguously cruel depiction of everything negative about him.
  • While I would be surprised if this show didn't mock Trump at some point, it would be strange to have Peanutbutter represent him, considering how utterly different their personalities are. If anything, Peanutbutter running for office as Governor of California would more likely invoke references to Arnold Schwarzenegger, a very notable, recent actor-politician.
    • It doesn't have to be a direct mockery of Trump, but of his political strategy. Peanutbutter may use shock value and loud rhetoric over substance, like Trump. And it will succeed. But Peanutbutter will sadly learn that his cheerful optimism will leave him unprepared for the morass of day to day politics, and he'll most likely fail to do anything substantive.
    • His opponent, a woodchuck, will probably parallel Trump, whereas Peanutbutter will probably parallel liberalism or centrism. (His poster in the teaser resembles Obama's iconic "HOPE" poster.)
    • The election doesn't seem to be a direct parallel to anything, besides Mr. Peanutbutter's lack of experience and the influence of likeability over credibility. Not to mention Woodchuck doesn't resemble Trump in the slightest.

Because he's apparently missing to his friends, the first episode of season 4 will cut BoJack out of the opening sequence.
Either that, or replace all the scenes of him in L.A. with new backgrounds, like the desert or the home he drove up to in the end of the season 4 teaser.
  • Both jossed.

Mr. Peanutbutter physically abusing Diane will be a Call-Back to Diane's Hank Hippopopolis story from season 2.
Trying and failing to get a beloved celebrity convicted of sexual abuse was one thing. That beloved celebrity being your own husband is a whole other story. It would also be a pay off to her line later in that season about "all your favorite musicians [beating] their wives. Allegedly."

BoJack's mother will say she's sorry and he'll forgive her, but it'll be a bad thing.
Accepting apologies seems to be the one lesson BoJack retained, which means that he'll accept one from the one person who deserves it the least: his abusive mother. This will somehow screw him up even more.
  • She never outright apologizes, nor does he ever specifically forgive her, but he does learn to go easier on her given her troubled life, eventually letting her delude herself into pretending her crappy new nursing home is a fantasy life in Michigan.

Fantastic Racism between cats and mice will be a big deal in Season 4.
One part of the trailer for Season 4 shows Ralph and Stefani's family wearing what seem to be cat ears, with a little kid walking on the table like a monster and Princess Carolyn scowling about it. Another part shows Officer Meow Meow Fuzzyface pulling over a car with Ralph and Princess Carolyn in it and pulling a gun on Ralph, and given the show's track record of tackling controversy and recent news coverage about hate crimes by authority figures, they could very well end up using cat/mouse racism as a metaphor for real-life Police Brutality against marginalized folks.
  • PC and Ralph already have joked about their species before in Season 3, but this may put the quips in a more serious light. Their relationship may fall through because one side can't get over their prejudice, especially if they want to start a family together.
  • Confirmed, sort of. While the incident with Meow-Meow is actually due to Ralph speeding to get home while PC is ovulating, the Stiltons do end up making PC uncomfortable with their anti-cat sentiments while celebrating a mouse-specific holiday, which includes mocking the evil cat king and even stating "Death to all cats!".

BoJack's daughter is named Hollyhock.
A Freeze-Frame Bonus in the Season 4 trailer shows Beatrice in a room with some pictures on the wall. It appears to be the daughter in two of the pictures (the mane and snout color are more consistent with her color scheme than BoJack or anyone else). Also on the wall is a heart-shaped card written in cursive, which seems to read (albeit backwards from the angle shown) "Happy Birthday Hollyhock". Not clear why Beatrice is there, or who the others in the photos are, but it's as fair a guess as any.
  • Confirmed.

Piggybacking off of two above theories, the Hank Hippopoilous story, BoJack's thing with Penny, Mr. Peanutbutter attacking Diane and even the muffins incident are all building up to one big Dramatic Irony conclusion.
Right now, it looks like we're going to have two separate incidents of Diane blowing the whistle on beloved male celebrities whom the general public sees as the kind people they present themselves as rather than the deeply flawed people that they are. Therefore, everyone's just going to assume that Diane is still just a paranoid "feminazi" and won't believe her when she accuses Mr. Peanutbutter of attacking her.

Meanwhile, BoJack is well known publicly for the abrasive jerk that he is, so nobody would give a second through to the possibility of him sleeping with a minor. However, the worst BoJack did was consider sleeping with Penny, and we're still in the dark about the exact details of what happened, so by all accounts he's the only one of these three men who is innocent of abusing a woman. But it doesn't matter because everyone perceives BoJack to be the kind of jerk who would sleep with a minor, whether or not her did (or at least think "are we just gonna wait around until he does?"). So the only one who's innocent will be Convicted by Public Opinion and suffer legal consequences while the two men who we know for a fact are guilty won't.

The Hard Truth Aesop of this whole story is "it doesn't matter if you're a good or bad person or if you do good or bad things. Other people's opinions of you dictate the outcome of your life because Life Isn't Fair." Considering that this whole miserable life for BoJack began with his own parents telling him he's worthless, it wouldn't be the first time he's heard it.

  • Jossed. For now.
  • BoJack does get Convicted by Public Opinion in the final stretch of the series and loses pretty much everything, even after he's undergone Character Development and feels he's being left out in the cold. Meanwhile, we never learn of Hank again and it's safe to assume he is still a Karma Houdini. The Mr. Peanutbutter case was never a real case though he does briefly catch flak in early Season Six for cheating on his new fiancee with Diane.

BoJack will have a scene with his daughter where they sit on the same bench he sat on with Sarah Lynn when he gave her his Critic's Choice Award in season 1.
Unlike that scene, which he tries to play out as if he was living the ending of a heartwarming sitcom episode ("Just let the credits roll."), here it'll be him forming a real parental bond with this girl, showing him how much better these things are in real life than they are on a sitcom.
  • They have an earnest bonding moment, but it's on his deck.

Oil drilling will be a source of conflict for Diane and Mr. Peanutbutter.
A blink-and-you'll-miss-it shot in the trailer during the scene of Diane and Mr. Peanutbutter fighting shows a sign reading "FRACKING = GOOD". Maybe Mr. Peanutbutter will shill out for oil companies to get their money and/or endorsement and further his campaign, and Diane will become angry with him for selling out, given how he's in the position to make a difference (like she's always wanted to be) and he's squandering it. This tension will escalate into their physical fight.
  • Confirmed.

The anthropomorphism of sea animals will probably come into play too, as they would be affected by oil spill and it would be irony given that Mr. Peanutbutter saving an aquatic city is what got him nominated in the first place. It could even be a metaphor for the DAPL controversy, as mentioned above.

  • Confirmed. There's a mini-arc about fracking happening underneath Mr. Peanutbutter's house as a result of Todd signing Mr. Peanutbutter's name on a pro-fracking agreement, which Diane is heavily against, leading to sexually charged fights.

Sarah Lynn is looking up architectural facts on her phone.
Unfortunately it will likely never be confirmed nor jossed, after the events of "That's Too Much, Man!", but it would explain the deep understanding she had of it even though she never went to college, and it would also explain why she's almost always seen on her phone.

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