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- Doubtful that it'll be Iron Man becuse Robert Downey Junior just signed another film deal and Word of God is that he'll be in The Avengers 3. Also, he's pretty much the centre of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
- Hawkeye would have the biggest death odds right now. Joss hyping up his role seems to be prime grounds for killing him off abruptly. Hawkeye is just outside of being core enough to have Plot Armor.
- Black Widow is in the same area as Hawkeye, and to quote Joss Whedon, "the stuff I've got going on with her in the second one is killer". Foreshadowing, maybe? Who knows with Joss.
- Interestingly enough, a Captain Marvel film was announced as their first female-led flick—not a Black Widow movie. When the topic of a Black Widow film came up, Feige suggested it could be a prequel. Seems perplexing... unless she's going to die here. Banner is rumored to have some sort of relationship with her, which could explain the Hulk-Iron Man fight scene if she's killed and he hulks out in response (is it just me, or does the Hulk look like he may be... crying?). And as one last point of interest, it has been suggested Claudia Kim is playing Monica Chang in the film. In and of itself, this makes sense due to her ties to artificial intelligence, but remember: in the Ultimate universe Chang becomes the new Black Widow after Natasha dies.
- Hell, let's take it even further. Is Tony, having created Ultron, going to be seen as indirectly responsible for her death? That would make Hulk's rage directed at Tony. Steve and Natasha were also close, so could this form the basis of their conflict in Captain America 3? Black Widow has apparently been confirmed for Captain America 3. Plus Whedon would be classy enough to avoid fridging one of only two female superheroes. It looks like Black Widow won't be dying at all. The Russos just confirmed ScarJo's appearance in Captain America: Civil War.
- Jossed. Natasha doesn't die here. Claudia Kim is playing scientist Helen Cho.
- Interestingly enough, a Captain Marvel film was announced as their first female-led flick—not a Black Widow movie. When the topic of a Black Widow film came up, Feige suggested it could be a prequel. Seems perplexing... unless she's going to die here. Banner is rumored to have some sort of relationship with her, which could explain the Hulk-Iron Man fight scene if she's killed and he hulks out in response (is it just me, or does the Hulk look like he may be... crying?). And as one last point of interest, it has been suggested Claudia Kim is playing Monica Chang in the film. In and of itself, this makes sense due to her ties to artificial intelligence, but remember: in the Ultimate universe Chang becomes the new Black Widow after Natasha dies.
- Fury. The status quo between Civil War & Secret Invasion had Tony as Head of Shield. This movie could be why. It would allow Downey Jr to stick around as Tony Stark whilst not being Iron Man following his previously stated apprehensions about continuing to play Stark due to his age. Only problem here is that Samuel L Jackson signed a 9 movie deal with Marvel, and would have two more films left to fulfill his contract after Avengers 2, but there are ways around that.
- Probably Jossed since they just had Fury "die" in Cap 2; it'd be a bit repetitive. Also SHIELD is sort of disbanded and Fury went solo so Tony could take over SHIELD by reviving it except that in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Fury made Coulson the new Director of SHIELD.
- Quicksilver or Scarlet Witch. We know they're being added to the Avengers in this film, and thanks to Fox owning the X-Men, Marvel can't reference two significant parts of their back story. They could get around this by having Pietro die & Wanda stick around to honor his memory, or Wanda's death (Much like in the Ultimate Universe) being catalyst for Quicksilver's Face–Heel Turn.
- Joss Whedon, being a fervent feminist, is unlikely to kill off one of the few female Avengers.
- A recent trailer shows Cap declaring to Ultron "She's with us", implying that Wanda has joined the Avengers. Since he doesn't say "'They're' with us", it's possible that Pietro was killed by Ultron, driving Wanda to join the Avengers.
- Somewhat Confirmed: Ultron steals a Quinjet and tries to gun down Hawkeye (who was trying to save a child), but Quicksilver runs in and takes the bullets for him.
- Steve. Depending on how Captain America: The Winter Soldier ends, it would lead to Bucky taking up the shield as the new Captain America.
- Sebastian Stan just revealed that he has a nine-picture deal with Marvel. This just got some serious credibility. Six: Three Captain America films and three Avengers films (the cameo in Thor: The Dark World doesn't count). Given that the third Captain America movie is titled Civil War, we may be right to worry about Steve. Then factor in the facot that Chris is signed up for three Avengers movies. There are four. Commence worrying.
- Steve and Bucky will appear for Infinity War 1 according to the trailer but it seems that Steve is no longer Captain America.
- The end-credits stinger will be the body turning into a Skrull, setting up for Avengers 3: Secret Invasion.
- Thanks to a Freeze-Frame Bonus from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., we know that Skrull do indeed exist in the MCU, so this has some possibility.
- Avengers 3 is Infinity War Parts 1 and 2.
- Skrulls are part of the Fantastic Four franchise. No Skrulls in the MCU.
- What if it's Rhodey? He's not a super major character and it'd give Tony some extra motivation. On the other hand, Marvel is likely smart enough to know the Black Dude Dies First trope might not go over well. Especially since the MCU has been a frequent target of Monochrome Casting complaints.
- Banner is going to be the one to bite the dust. Ultron will find some way to hurt him, and use it.
- Confirmed. It turned out to be Quicksilver.
- Maybe. His actor DID sign a multi-picture deal. So there's a chance he's Only Mostly Dead.
- Confirmed. New Avengers roster includes Falcon, War Machine, Scarlet Witch and Vision.
We also know that Avengers: Age of Ultron will be darker than its predecessor. Given that Joss Whedon is at the helm, that implies some really bad shit is about to go down for the Avengers. Let's also not forget that Ultron is typically portrayed as an insanely dangerous, humorless villain who committed such crimes as genocide. This means that if Hank Pym was connected to Ultron, Ultron's crimes would hang over the Ant-Man film and force them to address it.
And remember, the Ant-Man film is supposed to be a comedy. While it's not impossible to make comedy out of tragedy, it's a bit more difficult when your film is directly following a darker film that took its subject matter deadly seriously. Plus, Ant-Man as he is is a pretty tough sell to a mainstream audience, both for his powers and the fact that his life is so defined by colossal screw-ups. (Seriously. The guy was well into his superhero career when he created Ultron, the mass-murdering robot already mentioned, then went crazy and briefly became a supervillain, during which he struck his wife. Adapting all that unchanged would probably be asking a bit much from a mainstream audience. For comparison, Spider-Man's also defined by colossal screw-ups, but he gets a pass because a) he's young and inexperienced, b) he started his career trying to make up for his mistakes, and c) his screw-ups never eventually led to genocide.)
By removing the Ant-Man-Ultron connection, this frees the Ant-Man film from that baggage and lets the comedy flourish naturally. (Frankly, Ultron's always been more of an Avengers villain anyway. Not that he doesn't hate Ant-Man especially, but I don't think Hank was ever able to beat Ultron without at least a little help.)
- This is an okay concept, but it does raise some questions: for ages now, Pym has characterized by his guilt over creating Ultron. (And even more so over a certain event that SHALL NOT BE NAMED) With Cap as the Big Good, Hawkeye as Deadpan Snarker, Tony as Rich Bitch With A Heart of Gold, what would Pym be? (Preferably something that contrasts Wasp's role as Fun Personified).
- They could balance it by having Hank come up with some of the tech for Ultron but Tony being the guy who actually makes him. Partial guilt over help in villain's creation plus some connection to Ultron, but not nearly as much as the 616 Hank to the point that it would bring down the movie because he wasn't the guy who put him together.
- Possibly Jossed, since Edgar Wright is no longer directing Ant-Man.
- Confirmed. Whedon has stated that Wright's project was a major reason why Pym isn't in the movie. (The other is simple story economics. Introducing Pym for the sole purpose of creating Ultron would make things needlessly complicated, and having Tony take over would streamline things and make Ultron a more personal threat.)
- Confirmed.
- I'm betting the Ten Rings and Aldrich Killian
- At the moment, it's most likely that it will be Baron von Strucker.
- Pretty much confirmed. Tony created Ultron to fight baddies (namely, Hydra) to give the Avengers a break.
- He's confirmed to take control of the Iron Legion, but we'll see about Dummy.
- Dummy's nowhere to be seen.
- JARVIS could be taken over by Ultron at one point.
- Confirmed. After he first awakes, the Avengers suspect him of being just another body for Ultron.
- Actually, that was Vision that they suspected; knowing that JARVIS would be part of Vision is what made Tony and Bruce willing to risk birthing him.
- Sort of Confirmed. Rhodey is once again calling himself War Machine, not Iron Patriot and both he and Tony take place in the final battle. At the end, Tony leaves the Avengers and Rhodey join the team.
- Since Captain America 2 the reverse-engineered HYDRA tech part could be true; and the connection might be that it was built to stop HYDRA since SHIELD isn't around anymore.
- Confirmed. He begins as the Mind Gem in Loki's Sceptre taken from HYDRA's possession and later he claims Strucker's Sokovia base for himself.
- Alternatively, Ultron creates the Vision as an off-model decoy. JARVIS will attempt to hack Ultron, discover that what it's hacking is an empty shell, and instead decide to capture and use this decoy to help, spinning a copy of itself as an operating system.
- Confirmed. JARVIS becomes Vision.
- The latest press clip from Marvel features Cap and Tony doing a post-game on the Avengers' first encounter with Scarlet Witch. She wipes the floor with everybody.
- Confirmed, she screws with everyone's brains, including Hulk and Thor.
- At least partially confirmed. The footage shown at SDCC shows Tony trying and failing multiple times to lift Mjolnir, as well as Bruce and Clint, with only Steve managing to budge it a little. A preview of things to come in Avengers 3, perhaps?
- There's no reason that such a moment of crisis will come in this film, with that introductory scene serving to showcase that as a kind of Chekhov's Skill. Imagine Cap fighting off Ultron with his shield and Mjolnir!
- Mjolnir's enchantment is absolute. You're either worthy of lifting it or you're not. There's no such thing as being a "little" worthy and being able to nudge it a little. As such, this troper believes that Cap CAN lift Mjolnir. He actually didn't lift it to not embarrass Thor or his fellow Avengers, which is COMPLETELY in character for Cap, being the team player he is.
- An Alternative to the above - Steve is actually worthy of lifting Mjolnir... But he doesn't really believe he is during the events of this film, hence why the hammer shifts a little - he's worthy, but he's not yet ready.
- Another Alternative: While Steve is worthy, he doesn't want to wield the power of Thor. When he starts to lift Mjolnir in this movie, he gets a quick perception of just what that power is and has a "No, thanks" moment.
- This is also a possible reference to the Fear Itselfcomic, where Skadi breaks Cap's shield and Cap temporarily wields Mjolnir until his shield is repaired.
- At least for this movie, nothing comes of Cap being able to budge the hammer. The scene instead turns out to be setup for Vision lifting it later, gaining the Avengers' trust by doing so.
- He does lift the hammer in Endgame.
- Thanos speaking for the first time.
- Guardians of the Galaxy got to that first.
- Not to mention that it's been confirmed that Thanos isn't in the movie.
- Confirmed. He claims the freaking Infinity Gauntlet!
- The real Mandarin in person.
- Jossed.
- A Spider-Man or X-Men character (after intense negotiations with Sony or Fox), or an object/artifact/concept teasing a potential crossover (again, after intense negotiations).
- Spider-Man's inclusion is becoming increasingly likely, if the Sony Leaks are of any indication - although his first appearance is more likely to be in Captain America: Civil War.
- Now he's been confirmed to appear in the MCU. There's a chance he could appear in The Stinger.
- Jossed.
- Spider-Man's inclusion is becoming increasingly likely, if the Sony Leaks are of any indication - although his first appearance is more likely to be in Captain America: Civil War.
- Confirmed. Paul Bettany is playing both.
- Arguably zig-zagged. JARVIS is uploaded into Ultron's "ultimate body" and merges with the pieces of programming Ultron had already uploaded. He becomes something more than both of them - he even flat-out states that he's "not JARVIS" in his reveal scenes.
- Jossed. It would seem Coulson is the new director now.
- Coulson is still believed dead by most, and his team are fugitives. Stark could still be collecting SHIELD assets.
- In her appearance on Agents of SHIELD, Hill talks about Stark privatizing global security. They seem to be running parallel to Coulson's team.
- Sort of confirmed. By the end of the film, remains of S.H.I.E.L.D. under Fury and Hill serves as a support base for the Avengers.
- Confirmed.
- Confirmed. His final body, as well as Vision and his anti-gravity machine, are made of Vibranium purchased from Klaw.
- Confirmed!
- Sort of, yeah.
- She does it at other points during the movie, but not after Hulkbuster fight.
- Close. Hulk, Thor, Clint and Tony leaves the team and go home (except Hulk, who runs away). War Machine, Falcon, Scarlet Witch and Vision join Black Widow and Captain America as the new Avengers roster.
- The Winter Soldier quietly observing Steve through a scope, and then leaving.
- Tony taking out everyone for shawarma again.
- A scene with Thanos.
- Confirmed! He gets the freaking Infinity Gauntlet!
- Fury doing something.
- Steve or Sam finds the Winter Soldier.
- Hank Pym watching news footage of Ultron's attack, expressing his dislike of superheroes.
- An infinity gem being found on Earth, by a HYDRA scientist no less.
- Another curveball, like Howard the Duck appearing in Guardians of the Galaxy for shits and giggles.
- Nothing. Whedon will screw with fans minds by having a 15 min credits, and no end credits scene.
- Spiderman, foreshadowing his appearance in Civil War.
- Some scenes show him in a dance hall in 1940s, reportedly with Peggy. As we know they'd never danced, it probably isn't a flashback.
- Confirmed. Scarlet Witch messes with everybody's mind, except for Clint, who alsready had his fill of it last time.
- Probably in The Stinger or at the end of the film, the government will propose the Superhero Registration Act since the next Captain America film will be loosely based from Civil War.
- Confrimed. The public isn't happy after Hulk wrecks a city in South Africa.
- This would also resolve the problem of competing with the Fox X-Men version of Quicksilver, who has a year-long popularity boost over the Avengers version.
- Joss Whedon's work tends to subvert or invert sexist media cliches so it's definitely possible that he would Fridge a man to further a woman's character development.
- To add to this, we see a shot of Avengers fighting off an army of Ultron's robots in the trailer. It seems this is the climax of the film. We see the usual roster, plus Scarlet Witch. There is no sign of Quicksilver in that aerial shot of them fighting back-to-back.
- Confirmed.
- Jossed.
- Kind of? Ultron says something to the effect of "we all create what we dread."
- Confirmed, but Clint isn't in it.
- Confirmed. A clip screened during Marvel's latest press event has Cap and Tony doing a post-game on the fight at the beginning of the movie — specifically, how Scarlet Witch single-handedly shredded the whole team with some kind of psychic attack that made them see traumatic visions. The strange scenes in the trailer, such as Cap in WWII or young Black Widow as a ballerina, are likely flashbacks that Scarlet Witch triggered, and a traumatic psychic attack would account for Banner losing it in the snow and the whole team looking shell-shocked on the Quinjet.
A) Its a family farm, and we'll get some backstory for Hawkeye when someone asks about it, including talking about his abusive father and him joining the circus, with this being the first time he's gone back since his parents' deaths.
- Confirmed. His wife and kids live there.
B) Its a farm he bought with Mockingbird at some point in the past when they were together. In the comics, the two owned a cabin in the woods that they bought together when they got married, so it could be the MCU equivalent of this. This, in turn, can also be used to flesh him out more by establishing and explaining his relationship with her, given its been confirmed by Agents of SHIELD that they know one-another.
C) Its something he bought to take care of himself after his brainwashing by Loki, as a place for him to cope and come to terms with what happened.
D) Its just an old safe house that isn't all that special.
- Confirmed. Wanda induces visions, which affect everyone on the team except Hawkeye.
- Heimdall appears in a vision, Loki doesn't (unless you count that one second where he's vagualy seen standing behind Heimdall).
- Alternative; if they do go into what happened in Budapest, it'll be something incredibly mundane and dull compared to what people have built it up to be (something like "we were supposed to only have to take out 30 guys, turned out to be 50, not a big deal"). In either case, they clarify that Budapest really wasn't that big of a deal, and they've had far more interesting missions, possibly name-dropping another town, so we can see the fans go crazy over that mission instead.
- Confirmed. Still a Noodle Incident.
- Idris Elba has stated that Heimdall and Loki will have a cameo appearance in AOU, though nothing has been confirmed.
- Confirmed-ish. Thor leaves the team and gets back to Asgard for the first time since The Dark World, but he spends the next two years mostly out of Asgard, investigating the other realms.
- Confirmed. Plenty of Continuity Porn in this movie.
- Jossed, Vision has been confirmed as being created by Ultron.
- And then confirmed! Ultron creates Vision's body, but it is Tony and Bruce and upload J.A.R.V.I.S. in it with a specific purpose to fight Ultron.
- Then as a follow-up WMG, Vision will be the Data to Ultron's Lore and will try to stop his... uh, father? Brother?
- Confirmed.
- That and Scarlet Witch's role in the film could be similar to the role she played in Disassembled.
- Four members leave the team, but the Avengers endure.
- Confirmed. It's the mind gem.
- Confirmed! He claims the Gauntlet in the Stinger.
- Confirmed. He becomes an Avenger by the end.
- Possibly his mother (Like many real-life Korean-Americans, Amadeus was born in America while his mother is an immigrant) or older sister.
- Alternatively, she could be a Gender Flipped version of Amadeus himself, though this is less likely.
- Confirmed-ish? In the comics, Helen Cho is Amadeus Cho's mother.
- Alternatively, Klaw will lose a hand during his fight with Scarlet Witch, setting him up to get his prosthetic in the Black Panther movie.
- Confirmed. Claue loses his arm to Ultron. Strucker is killed outright.
- Confirmed - it's his second body. However, this happens before he coats himself in Vibranium.
- Confirmed! In his vision Heimdall is dead and speaks of Hel.
- Related to the above, when JARVIS is rebuilt into Vision, he'll have no memory of Tony or his previous life and he'll stay that way. Just to make things more sad.
- Confirmed. Ultron tried to eradicate J.A.R.V.I.S. and he is reborn as a new person in Vision.
- Dummy survives though.
This new incarnation of the team will initially include:
- Captain America
- War Machine
- Black Widow
- Hawkeye
- Falcon
- Quicksilver
- Scarlet Witch
- The Vision
- Nick Fury
- All of these were confirmed, with the exceptions of Quicksilver and Hawkeye.
- Spinning off from this theory, perhaps Wakanda will be mentioned at some point.
- The molten hand shot? Ultron getting his upgraded Vibranium form. But from whom? That brief shot of Andy Serkis? Klaw. His specialty (and obsession)? Vibranium. Awwwww, yiiiisss.
- Seems jossed. Cap's shield was shown to cut into Ultron in the trailer. (And according to the Lego sets, Ultron was in "ultimate" form)
- Jossed. Ultron does get vibranium from Claue, but it is used for his device and Vision's body, not Ultron himself.
- Actually not Jossed. Ultron doesn't use all of the vibranium for those purposes. His final "main body" (the one he uses to destroy his previous main body before locking up the captured Natasha) is also made of the stuff.
- Scarlet Witch is confirmed to appear in Avengers 2 but it will not tie in the the X-Men movies. In fact, Quicksilver will appear without Scarlet Witch in X-Men: Days of Future Past.
- Indeed, Tony's traumatic experience in The Avengers is the reason why he tries to create Ultron in the first place.
Since Ant-Man's solo film won't come out until after this movie, Tony Stark will be Ultron's creator instead. It will be an extension to his work in Iron Man 3 in an attempt to create a fully autonomous Iron Man suit. Of course A.I. Is a Crapshoot and something goes horribly wrong during the testing of the suit when JARVIS is somehow corrupted and becomes the being known as Ultron.
- Confirmed
- Although Dum-E doesn't become Ultron.
After all the death and destruction caused by Ultron's rampage, Tony (who was responsible for Ultron's creation) is overwhelmed by guilt and realizes that people like him and the other Avengers have too much power, which can potentially destroy the world. So he decides to turn over a new leaf and supports a government proposal to regulate superheroes, under a reconstituted SHIELD headed by him. Steve however, after the events of The Winter Soldier knows one can't fully trust the government any more and opposes such curbs on the liberties of those trying to do right. And thus, we have the Civil War...
- The reverse. Steve is leading new Avengers with what remains of S.H.I.E.L.D. (not Coulson's) and Tony leaves the team to do his own thing.
- Confirmed that the guilt from Ultron's actions does result in him supporting the Superhuman Registration Act.
- It would probably be changed to "We would have words with you" since the MCU's Thor tends to avoid Shakespeare English. Then again, so did the Thor in The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, but he still used the exact line.
- Alternately, he will get halfway through the phrase, then get blasted by Ultron before being able to finish it. After all, Joss loves knocking Norseman out of frame.
- Jossed.
- Jossed, James Spader will be Ultron.
- Cumberbatch is playing Stephen Strange, though. We may still get Sherlock vs. Sherlock come Infinity War~
- In fact, we know there will be a Hulkbuster in this film. Perhaps Ultron uses that armor to build a body.
- The Vision will probably be another personalized suit of armor that rebels against Ultron.
- Jossed.
- Jossed by... Joss. Of course, he could still be lying.
- It'll be in The Stinger, which deliberately mimics the one in The Incredible Hulk (2008) by having Tony show up at a bar where Hank Pym is getting drunk over what Ultron did. Then Janet pops over, tries to drag Hank to the dance floor, then fails, and gets Tony instead.
- Also Jossed.
- It'll be in The Stinger, which deliberately mimics the one in The Incredible Hulk (2008) by having Tony show up at a bar where Hank Pym is getting drunk over what Ultron did. Then Janet pops over, tries to drag Hank to the dance floor, then fails, and gets Tony instead.
- The rumour just said Hank Pym was a hero from the 1960s; never said that he retired. So Hank could have pulled a Heroic Sacrifice stopping Ultron, and SHIELD has possession of his Ant-Man suit (which Scott Lang could steal in the upcoming movie). Of course, with Hank Pym dead, it gives the team a harder time trying to defeat Ultron since the bot's original creator is no longer alive to help them - but then they discover something in his old files...
- Hank's going to be in the Ant-Man movie, but that might be a prequel or something. Either way, it's possible he could get name-dropped in Avengers 2 anyway. a September 2014 synopsis describes Ultron as a dormant peacekeeping program that Tony tries to reactivate, so it seems entirely possible that Pym is the one who originally developed it.
- Considering that Tony's dad, Howard Stark, will appear in the Ant-Man movie, it's likely that he and Hank know each and worked together at some point in the past.
- Jossed. No name-drop of Pym.
- And perhaps add a dash of the Destroyer from Thor for extra measure and offer Hammer parole in exchange for helping them build the thing and ladies and gentlemen, we have Ultron.
- The events of Captain America 2 kind of mess this up, but it does set up the possibility that Ultron will be created to replace the now-disbanded SHIELD.
- Jossed. It's because of Tony's Scarlet Witch-induced vision.
- Jossed.
- There is on-location filming taking place in South Africa. Perhaps Black Panther is a possibility...?
- No heroes, but Ulysses Klaue makes an appearance.
- Pym: Why would you help me?Fury (or whoever): Because you are going to help us.
- Jossed.
- It is a movie mentioned to have one of the stronger scripts and as a possible Phase 3 movie. Though Runaways is dependent on the Guardians...if that flops, you can kiss any Runaways, Iron Fist or Wonder Man films goodbye.
- Well, considering GOTG's success at the box office, I'd guess Runaways will be fast-tracked.
- The entire Phase 3 slate has been revealed, and Runaways isn't on it. But hey, maybe we'll still see it in Phase 4?
- Jossed.
- Fair warning, our father can tear up metal like toilet paper.
- Self serving? Narcissistic? Out to wipe out humanity? It's like Chanukah at Dad's all over again.
- Jossed.
Have also in mind that, in comics, their Luke, I Am Your Father reveal was a big surprise because both characters were long-standing heroes, and Magneto was a long standing villain. Here, the twins are new characters. Unless their father is Loki, Red Skull, the Clairvoyant or someone already seen, the reveal would be meaningless and hardly shocking for those who don't read comics.
After all, Quicksilver's ancestors in X-Men: Days of Future Past was just a throwaway joke (which may even have been missed by those who don't read comics and did not know him before the film), and there were no license problems, his father was standing right next to him (but, as the movie was not focused in a Luke, I Am Your Father reveal, it was all ignored).
- Jossed. He is mention as a normal Human being killed by a missile.
- Still, the main point prevails. They are not described as the sons of any villain, or any named character. They parents are just mentioned once, in passing, and never again, and nothing comes from that.
- The main point was that their father would not be mentioned. He was, posthumously so still basically Jossed.
- Will be because Ultron's first evil act was to lock up his creator before he could stop him. The stinger will be S.H.I.E.L.D agents rescuing him from his prison.
- Jossed.
- (Different Troper)Alternatively Quicksilver will the one who sacrifices himself, after Wanda have been trying all the movie to make him see reason.
- Jossed. Quicksilver does die, but he's protecting the innocent.
- Jossed. Janet Van Dyne will be a Posthumous Character in Ant-Man, and though it's heavily rumored that Hope Van Dyne (played by Evangeline Lilly) may become the MCU version of the Wasp, it definitely won't be in AOU.
- Kinda like in Ultimate Spider-Man (2012). Cool.
- Seems bolstered by a tweet made by Whedon mentioning an attack by "intelli-bees".
- Jossed.
- DUM-E was Tony's first AI. and after three decades or so of being belittled and abused, he's had it and takes over one of Stark's experiments.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Ultrons begins as an Infinity Stone: he's literally made out of a blueprint of Mind Gem. Ultron later puts the Stone in the body he intends to take, but that body becomes Vision instead. So, Jossed, but still pretty close.
- Jossed.
- Alternatively, they will be referred to as "Gifteds."
- Either Marvel will simply skirt around their nature as mutants and leave the whole thing ambiguous (for potential future X-Men crossovers), or Fox will contractually require them to establish that the two characters are absolutely, positively, definitely not mutants in any way and have nothing to do with the X-Men, and make Disney give them a different father (possibly Baron Strucker or an original character).
- Definitely possible, given Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is currently leading the charge on Inhumans entering the MCU, and there's confirmed to be an Inhumans movie later down the line.
- Jossed, they're the result of Strucker's experiments. Also Ao S episode "The Frenemy of my Enemy" reveals that Strucker and List have no idea who Inhumans are, just that they have powers.
- Different Troper* Or maybe Ultron will end up in space to set up a Guardians of the Galaxy sequel based on the Annihilation miniseries.
- Perhaps not a noble sacrifice, but Tony having no choice after his Hulkbuster armor fails to stop Hulk's rampage? Could be why Thor chokes him out in the first trailer. Also, take a look at the Phase 3 schedule. Generally speaking, a film every May, July, and November. But there is a conspicuous absence for July, 2016. I wouldn't put it past them to have a secret Planet Hulk film in the works. It would also tie nicely into the now two-part Avengers 3. Rumor has it the Avengers won't be able to stop Thanos in part one, requiring help from beyond Earth in part 2: Guardians of the Galaxy, Captain Marvel... and a returning Hulk?
- Jossed. He does leave the team and heads into unknown direction, but is very much on Earth.
- Ironically, Hulk's next appearancenote ended up being the MCU equivalent to Planet Hulk. Said film ended up being a November 2017 movie.
- Alternate theory: He'll be revived by GH.325, which either someone managed to recover before the base's destruction or HYDRA manages to synthesize using Simmons research they're trying to access in the series.
- Jossed.
- Alternatively, while he doesn't need the armor on a personal level, he needs it on a public level; the suit's become a major part of his public image. As such he'll be seen with an armor, possibly a new or restored Mk 7 to bridge the two films, and will create a new suit later on.
- Jossed. Plenty of Iron Man action.
- Jossed. He survives and becomes an Avenger.
- Considering the stinger showed Pietro and Wanda trapped in cells and implied they were being experimented on, either this is Jossed or Strucker is not a nice dad.
- On that note...
- Jossed. They had their parents die in a missile attack.
- Jossed. It's been confirmed they will still be named Pietro and Wanda.
- Jossed.
- He does have a half-sister, though.
- *cough*RIPOFF!*cough*
- *cough*I DIDN'T EVEN THINK OF THAT AT FIRST*cough*
- *cough*PLUS MARVEL'S DONE THAT SCENE BEFORE*cough*
- Jossed. Just an attack of Ultron, he's long free by that point.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Ummm, I think the fan-pandering will probably stay within the Marvel universe.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. Black Widow is the one who gets captured.
- Jossed. Quicksilver is the one to die and Vision joins the Avengers.
- Even if HYDRA doesn't build him, Ultron could get the staff at some point.
- Jossed. Vision is the one with the Mind Gem from the sceptre.
- It's worth nothing that Whedon wanted Summer Glau to play Scarlet Witch.
- Jossed.
- Alternatively, the film could be the start of Inhumanity, leading to the 2018 Inhumans film.
- Jossed.
- I'd like his cameo to be a bit longer than that...maybe have him show up for the final battle, snipe a bunch of guys, and then run off before anyone can say thanks. And maybe Steve and/or Sam find him later, or in a stinger.
- Perhaps he will join in the final battle by sniping every robot he can see from the rooftop while Steve acknowledges him.
- Possible idea, there will be a minor subplot about Steve wanting to continue his search for Bucky, maybe urging some of the others to help, just to basically remind the audience about this. Then, when talking to Fury in his appearance, they'll make a comment about it, and as Steve leaves, its revealed Bucky was in the room the whole time hiding and is currently working with Fury, just as he did in the comics following his revival. The two might help later without anyone's knowledge, but yeah.
- Jossed. No Bucky this time.
- Howard Stark would have had access to Zola before and after his uploading. Howard has a history of recreating interesting technology like the cosmic cube.
- Project Insight, which was derived from ZOLA, has a similar M.O. to ULTRON in terms of eliminating potential threats to itself.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. The Russo Brothers have confirmed that Hawkeye was supposed to have a role in The Winter Soldier, but they had to cut it from the script due to scheduling conflicts with Jeremy Renner.
- Possibly Dormammu.
- Jossed (as far as they know).
- Much of this time will be shown in a montage similar to Captain America: The First Avenger. However, this montage won't show the good guys kicking ass. It will show Ultron defeating the governments of the world (which is why they are shooting in so many different countries). The Avengers will be forced into hiding and become La Résistance.
- Jossed. A few years pass as in real-time, but no hiding montage.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Rebuilt Iron Monger and Crimson Whiplash suits (with the latter's Hammeroids as Mooks) will either be controlled by different AI, or Ultron himself.
- Arnim Zola taking on his comics appearance.
- Aldrich Killian as MODOK, like in Iron Man 3's tie-in game.
- Crossbones.
- Jossed.
- When Thor mentions that only those who are worthy can pick up Mjolnir, she immediately refuses because she doesn't see herself as being that heroic due to all the 'red' in her ledger. Cue the climax of the film, Natasha is in a position to either save herself or a group of civilians. She uses her last buller/weapon to save the civilians, raises her hand to defend against Ulton's fatal blow...and then Mjolnir flies into her hand. Cue the thunderous transformation and the kicking of many asses.
- Extra points if it happens because it already happened in a comicbook: What if: Age of Ultron.
- The clip released showing the Avengers taking turns trying to lift the hammer, and Nat refuses to even have a go, saying it's not a question she needs answering, leaving it deliberately up in the air in at least that stage of the film over whether or not she is capable of lifting Mjolnir.
- Extra points if it happens because it already happened in a comicbook: What if: Age of Ultron.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. Everyone just accepts them out of necessity.
- Jossed. Hawkeye is Happily Married.
- See I'm conflicted over this. If it doesn't happen I will be severly disappointed. If it does happen the back of my head may explode from the awesome...still would not be a bad way to go.
- Hey, we can't have a montage without the Winter Soldier joining in.
- Jossed. No montage, but War Machine does join for the final battle.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
The movie starts off with Captain America assembling a few Avengers to take down Hydra/Baron Von Strucker. This team includes James Rhodes. The fight goes in the Avengers favor, until Strucker reveals a pair of twins he raised, (may even be the father to.) Whom he gave super powers. The fight is much harder, and Rhodey is killed.
Tony is distraught, and blames himself for having retired his Iron Man suits. He builds a new, fully automated suit to destroy Hydra, the Ultron robot, having been built in grief and fury, is a weapon of revenge. It crushes Von Strucker and Hydra, and then decides to "fix" humanity by taking over the world.
The twins agree to help the Avengers stop Ultron, and gradually have a change of heart. Ultron creates Vision out of Jarvis, and Vision rebels (or Tony builds Vision to make up for his mistake)
- The footage released has shown Rhodey present at Ultron's attack on Avengers Tower (which happens after the fight with Strucker).
- Jossed. Tony creates Ultron because of Wanda-induced vision.
- Jossed.
- Then Spidey can ultimately take the Infinity Gauntlet from Thanos and use it to restore everything that was destroyed and become the Big Good of the Marvel universes. Wild Mass Guess accepted!
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jocasta's established to be an AI in the same vein as Jarvis in this film.
- Jossed. That's Tony inside.
- No, DUMMY is going to upgrade himself to Ultron, solely to get his revenge for being such a stupid AI.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed, as he's slated to appear in Captain America: Civil War, the first movie of Phase 3.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- As I noted twice in the Cap 2 Fridge page, in Real Life undercover assets have their files deleted and any way to identify them obscured, specifically to avoid leaks of information outing them. While the agents who're currently not undercover will have their identities outed, the ones undercover will be safe for now, until they need extracting. Only then do they have a problem (though, if what we've seen is anything to go by, SHIELD agents don't need to worry about backup). As for how it'd benefit Ultron...not really, as Ultron would be able to hack and get the info by himself.
- I meant it would benefit Ultron because eight superheroes cannot cover as much space as an entire army.
- Jossed.
- That "That's not a question I need answering" is classic foreshadowing.
- Jossed.
- Backed up by the fact that Joss tried to get Summer Glau cast in the role.
- Jossed.
- This has to happen.
- Er, Pepper anyone?
- Thanks for the reminder-completely forgot about Pepper! Theory's been edited.
- Jossed.
- A man in red could restrain one of the drones with a grappling hook cane, keeping it from attacking an Avenger. (Daredevil)
- A man off the streets smashes the head of one of the bots with his bare hands all while letting out a Battle Cry of "SWEET CHRISTMAS!!!". (Luke Cage)
- A blonde flies through the air and blasts drones down. (Carol Danvers)
- A strange spiderweb appears and catches several robots. (Julia Carpenter/Arachne)
- A Webley MK VI/Lewis Gun appears and shoots down several robots, followed by a brief glimpse of a man in a Union Jack costume. (Captain Britain.)
- A man with glowing fists unleashes a flurry of blows on a nearby drone. (Iron Fist)
- A green woman is found throwing around several robots and outright clotheslines a drone's head off. (She-Hulk)
- A brunette woman with twin clubs takes out several drones and reveals herself to be an old friend of Barton. (Mockingbird)
- A main in a panther suit is prowling around scratching and clawing off the drones' faces. (Black Panther)
- All Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Or, based on a popular theory circulating on the Superhero Hype forums, it could be that, in the 1950s or 1960s, Pym, Howard Stark and Zola created Ultron as a computer to keep peace around the world. Zola, however, being a HYDRA agent, modified the AI to slowly become evil, and Howard Stark was killed in the deliberate car accident because he found out about the malicious coding in the AI. Pym shut the project down out of grief and locked it up in a warehouse. Many years later, Tony finds the old computer, plus the blueprints and any work notes, and implements its AI into his robot.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Specifically, Cap gives up on his friends due to SHIELD's extremism and Tony's hand in Ultron, Tony will spiral further into self-loathing, Banner will realize the destruction he's caused and submit willingly to a special prison facility, Thor will abandon Midgard in disgust, and Hawkeye and the Widow will go on the run. Leaving the Earth defenseless when Thanos shows up...
- Jossed. Tony, Clint, Thor and Hulk leave the team, but it's so that can do their own thing, not because of the public hate.
- Banner is confused and disoriented and Hulks Out in the chaos of the city to protect himself, and Stark calls in the Hulkbuster armor when Hulk starts beating the crap out of everything.
- Ultron has hijacked the Mk 43 armor and is attacking the city to discredit Stark. The "someone's got to stop the Hulk" dynamic is reversed, with Ultron piloting the Hulkbuster when Bruce goes Hulk in an attempt to stop it.
- Hulk ends up going berserk due to Baron Strucker and Loki's Sceptre in the first conflict of the movie, and Stark deploys the 'Ultra-Armor' (aka Ultron) to take on Hulk as a means to protect the other Avengers. Ultron then summons the Hulkbuster Armor (which Stark will note sarcastically 'that's new...') to fight Hulk on an even playing field. The aftermath of the battle will be Ultron's Start of Darkness as he sees just how destructive the Avengers are and resolves to kill them to protect the world, since he is obeying his programming, after all.
- None of the above. Scarlet Witch hexes Banner and causes the Hulk to go on a rampage, Stark initiates the Hulkbuster armor to slow him down.
- Jossed.
- Word of God apparently notes that Coulson won't be in the film. Though that may simply just rule out an on-screen appearance, as opposed to an off-screen, voice only cameo.
- Interestingly, B.J. Britt (Agent Triplett) was spotted on set, indicating that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. may have some sort of presence in the movie.
- Which is also very interesting considering that Triplett died halfway through season 2 of AoS.
- He won't be in the film. He'll be in The Stinger, as a homage to the first stinger of the MCU and to acknowledge that he's the new Director of S.H.I.E.L.D.
- Jossed. No Coulson or any others Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. characters.
- Jossed. T'Chaka is still alive in the MCU and makes his debut in Captain America: Civil War.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. He's playing Klaw.
- They've since taken legal action and subpoenaed Google over the leak, so it likely wasn't a publicity stunt.
- Jossed.
- The party scene, especially Steve making Mjolnir move a tiny bit, is possible forshadowing.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. Shield is only broken in Tony's vision.
- Jossed. He first shows up about halfway into the movie.
- So, regular anger but in someone with super strength?
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Actually, no, he isn't anymore: according to the Avengers Annual 2001 in addition to Avengers' little jaunt into the Heroes Reborn universe and their return undoing some of the thing done in The Crossing (namely Wasp's mutation being undone and adult!Tony's resurrection), Hawkeye's hearing was restored.
- Actually, yes. He lost his hearing again during Matt Fraction's solo Hawkeye series.
- The teaser shows that Ultron has some kind of sound-based weapon.
- He could actually already be deaf, and has always been using a hearing aid, as a way of just adding some Hidden Depths for him. Ultron might still take advantage of it, though, like damaging his hearing aid during the final battle and forcing Hawkeye to fight on despite the handicap, possibly leading to some extra badass moments.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
In The Stinger we'll see Red Skull is alive, and is either back on Earth, on his way back, or is in Asgard as a prisoner, teleported into the cosmos by the Tesseract. Maybe Loki will concoct a scheme with him, such as setting the Skull free and/or sending him back to Earth in exchange for the Chitauri Scepter/the Mind Stone. This will get the Mind Stone into Loki's hands (or at least on its way to him) for Infinity War, and brings the Skull to Earth to take command of HYDRA again and be the villain of Civil War, tying all three of Cap's films together. The Skull's return to Earth would also be a convenient way to introduce one of the last two Infinity Stones, maybe he found out another one is hidden on Earth, or he stole one from Asgard.
- Jossed.
- Although he does reappear in infinity War.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- In the Winter Finale of Season 2 of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Triplett is turned to stone and crumbles to bits. Leaving Britt's presence on the set up in the air.
- Jossed.
- Dr. Strange has his own movie on the way.
- Jossed.
- Can't be. The WMG said AFTER the film. They're making a Phase 3 prediction.
- Still jossed, since Wanda doesn't appear in Doctor Strange.
- Jossed.
- Or all of the above.
- The leak occurred when the film was well into post-production, so if this happens then the tweet was quoting the movie, rather than the other way around.
- Jossed.
- Tony does that, not Ultron.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. Serkis appears as himself, with only some make-up.
- Not Jossed. They're saying that maybe he'll be CGI in Phase 3, so they planned ahead by casting Serkis. Phase 3 hasn't started yet, so this is still up in the air.
- Fully jossed - he reappears in Black Panther without any CGI, only to get Snoke'd by Kilmonger.
- Not Jossed. They're saying that maybe he'll be CGI in Phase 3, so they planned ahead by casting Serkis. Phase 3 hasn't started yet, so this is still up in the air.
- Alternately, the 1940's Human Torch was the original Wonder Man, which Vision's original brain was based on.
- Jossed.
- And will be used to set up both Captain America: Civil War and Thor: Ragnarok.
- Jossed. It's right there in the middle.
- A theory going around now is that Claudia Kim's Dr. Cho character will be revealed as Mantis in a plot twist. This wouldn't be the first time the MCU has introduced a seeming Canon Foreigner only to reveal them to be an existing Marvel hero at a later date. Or the first time they introduced an existing Marvel character under an alias only to reveal their real name at the end of the movie.
- Jossed.
- Also, Helen Cho isn't a Canon Foreigner, she's an Adaptational Expansion for Amadeus Cho's mom.
- Will be Scarlet Witch (who's had bizarre visions of a terrible threat that will kill all Earth's heroes) pre-cognitively glimpsing Thanos standing over broken bodies and Cap's shattered shield.
- Jossed. Thanos again.
- Considering his "father" in this continuity is Tony, wouldn't it make more sense to use Pepper?
- Yes, but there's no sign of her in this film.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- The scene showing the Avengers apparently dead on an asteroid could be the first hint the Avengers get of Thanos, if it's an illusion by Scarlet Witch.
- Thor is aware of the Infinity Stone from the Guardians of the Galaxy, so perharps he already knows.
- Jossed, he doesn't, but he'll find out.
- Thor is aware of the Infinity Stone from the Guardians of the Galaxy, so perharps he already knows.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- "Sees"?
- Jossed.
- I had heard that Fox was indeed trying to reboot the fantastic four. So this one looks unlikely for the near future.
- Potentially not likely. I forget what was the reason, but Marvel couldn't use Silver Surfer in the World War Hulk animated movie. It's also possible that Fox may try to continue using the Fantastic Four license to cash in on Marvel's successes. Or they could choose to be jerks and hold onto the rights as long as possible just for spite. Wouldn't be the first time a company has secured production rights just to sit on them.
- Apparently, Marvel is willing to extend Fox's film rights for Daredevil in exchange for the Silver Surfer and Galactus. It's not likely, but at least Marvel is considering using the characters.
- With the announcement of Marvel's Daredevil series on Netflix, it appears Marvel won't get the rights to Galactus and the Surfer that way.
- Jossed
- This does make sense, and Marvel has been pushing Ms Marvel quite hard in recent years.
- Actually, I think that Carol Denvers will show up as CAPTAIN Marvel
- This does make sense, and Marvel has been pushing Ms Marvel quite hard in recent years.
- Jossed. The Kree do not appear in Age of Ultron, but they do appear in
- Jossed
- Jossed.
- It's also entirely possible that the line up for the team will be The Abomination (still alive as of the end of The Incredible Hulk), The Leader (teased at the end of TIH), Loki (assuming Thanos assembles the team), Red Skull (assuming he really did survive the events of the Captain America movie) and Aldrich Killian (again assuming he survived the explosion), all of which are assembled by Thanos, his reasoning behind it being to gather the "world's greatest villains" to battle the Avengers. Basically to stay in the shadows for as long as possible.
- Jossed.
- Jossed and confirmed, a new villain (Ultron) is introduced, but all Avengers fight him, not just the human ones.
- Jossed
- Besides, giving him that mouth-gag in the custody of the original Hannibal Lecter himself is just too sweet to pass up.
- YES
- Yes and no Loki helps Thor in his sequel but isn't in Avengers 2.
- Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. already confirmed that Strucker is seeking powered people and experimenting on them. No Enemy Mine with Fury though.
- Tony or not, he does have new wings by the end of the movie.
- Jossed.
- And just how will they be defeated once and for all? It will be a deliberate allusion to how in Classical Mythology Heracles was able to overcome the Hydra's regenerating heads. He used a torch to cauterize the stump of each head after it was cut off. Similarly, fire will somehow end up undoing HYDRA—for instance, Ultron may completely torch their base and kill everyone inside (it would have to be Ultron since obviously that's not something a hero would do). Yes, that's dark, but the film is already known to be quite dark, so it wouldn't be out of the question.
- At least it looks like it so far, with Strucker being killed. No doubt Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. will still find some HYDRA leftovers to fight though.
- Both Confirmed and Jossed. The film's third act does indeed take inspiration from Ultron Unlimited, as Ultron attacks Sokovia with the an army of robotic duplicates. But only part of the country is destroyed, most of it's inhabitants survive, and the twins had already deserted Ultron at this point.
Once upon a time, the Marvel Cinematic Universe was virtually identical to the comics, with all the properties included in one world. Mutants, Spider-Man and the Avengers all breathed the same air and walked the same Earth. Then House of M happened, rewriting all of history so that mutants were dominant. Eventually, though, Scarlet Witch's final spell was cast: No more mutants.
The spell wiped out all of mutantkind from Marvel history, backwards and forwards. The Marvel Cinematic Universe has no mutants, has never had mutants, and might never have them. Pietro and Wanda survived the cataclysm because of timey-wimey paradox chaos things, but with fractured memories. Due to the lack of mutants in the Marvel universe, their powers are uncategorizable, and they are 'rationalized' as Miracles.
Also, somehow the lack of mutants in this timeline changed the consequences of Spider-Man's origin, so that he only emerged during or after the Age of Ultron has passed.
- Jossed.
Post-release theories
- An AI was taught to tweet by being exposed to twitter. It turned into a vile misogynist and racist. So. Yeah.
- Fury said something about the Helicarrier being dusty and the inside had the same look as the Helicarrier from the 1st film, so I doubt it is the Iliad.]
- Even better: it turned out to be Coulson's ship, not Gonzales'. It was the Theta Protocol as hinted at a few episodes before the tie-in episode.
- And appear in the Black Panther movie.
- This is hardly a guess in any way, is it? Of course he will.
- Confirmed, but duh.
- He may have died following the events of the movie but then somehow SHIELD will find a way to revive him ala Coulson. He could be revived via GH 325 or SHIELD will kickstart his powers to max levels to facilitate his healing. Conversely, an Inhuman might grant him back his life in one of these days.
- Not to mention that Aaron Taylor Johnson signed a multi-picture deal, and given the fandom outcry...
- Given that this very movie showed a super-healing machine and he's able to shrug off injuries that would incapacitate a normal man, it's possible the answer's right there in the movie. And given that nobody actually outright says he's dead, this might be a Schrodinger's Death situation where the Russos get to decide if he lives or dies, if they want to use him in Avengers 3.
- Perhaps something involving the Soul Gem?
- Or maybe Quicksilver will be bought back by, and fused with, the Time Stone. Most likely by Wanda (who has become one with the reality stone) trying to use it to bring him back to life.
- We saw that Scarlet let Tony take the sceptre after playing with his fears, and that the sceptre was used in the experiments that empowered her and Quicksilver. Since they expected it to turn against Tony somehow, and considering that the sceptre was actually a way to use the mind gem's power, it isn't unlikely that Thanos were using it and made the children following his agenda instead of Strucker's. His appearance in the stinger uttering something like "fine, I'll do it myself" looks like someone just failed him, after all.
- He also said it had to be done because Ultron was a threat to all life.
- In the comics, all of Ultron's creations have something called the "Ultron Imperative" that forces them to rebuild him whenever he dies... so it's possible that he didn't kill him or could bring him back later on against his will.
- He lifted Mjolnir, after all.
- As Tony and Cap pointed out, he was a machine, so it doesn't really count.
- Whether the Vision being worthy of Mjolnir is due to him being artificial or not doesn't really matter here: he won't be king of Asgard because there is no actual relation between lifting the hammer and being the heir to the throne. Lifting it just means you can use it and have "the power of Thor", not "the royal titles of Thor".
- Also, the current king of Asgard would certainly have something to say about it...
- Jossed. As Asgard is destroyed in Ragnarok and Vision dies in Infinity War.
- Following on from "The Vision didn't kill Ultron" WMG above; assimilating Ultron, thus keeping him alive and as a part of him, would be a way to keep him alive while also rendering him incapable of being a threat (with no body of his own). Vision claims to be on the "side of life", which supports this theory. It may also appeal to his "humanity" (for lack of a better term), to let Ultron into the body he had wanted so badly for himself - to let him find some modicum of peace too.
- He was pretending in the party scene. He immediately saw he could move it and decided to keep mum out of modesty and not wanting to bring down his teammates.
- Also, Cap's moral compass is his own and nobody else's, as he's shown repeatedly - he trusts himself even when everyone's telling him he's wrong. He doesn't need validation from Mjolnir. Hawkeye was up for a dare, Tony wanted to show off and Bruce was going with the crowd. Steve doesn't have any of those reasons to really try. He nudges it by accident.
- Wasn't this confirmed in Endgame, and by one of the writers? Joss Whedon?
- Flip-Flop of God. Various writers have gone various ways. Some say he was worthy but stopped before moving it to keep up the fun and not upset Thor; others that he was almost but not quite worthy because of keeping the secret about the Winter Soldier killing Tony's parents.
The explanation is simple: Baron Von Strucker had taken a good look at the SHIELD helicarriers, and said: "Yeah, I can beat that." He planned to fly around the world on his great big floating city, doing terror and picking up chicks (but, y'know, evil ambiguously-Nazi chicks), and generally making SHIELD look like losers. Ultron didn't invent the idea of making the city fly, he just came up with the twist of then dropping it straight back down again.
- So... Baron Von Strucker invented Columbia?
- To be fair, his death was technically shown on screen as a picture of the corpse.
- Either by the powers of an Infinity Stone or Project T.A.H.I.T.I that HYDRA retrieved from SHIELD, making him Coulson's Evil Counterpart in Agents of SHIELD season 3.
- Bruce doesn't have fertility problems, he just acknowledges that children can make their parents irritated and angry sometimes and, well, they wouldn't like him when he's angry. As for Black Widow... you want her to have an Iron Vagina? Cool.
- According to The Incredible Hulk, Bruce can't have sex at all. His heart rate goes up and that triggers the Hulk transformation, and it's probably not wise to have sex with the Hulk.
- Well, considering that the Hulk was created due to gamma radiation exposure, and sterility is a common side effect of exposure to radiation, it's not that farfetched to believe that Bruce literally cannot produce offspring.
- Or possibly even worse, he may be worried that his condition will be inheritable.
- In the comics She-Hulk was created via blood transfusion, so that fear isn't entirely unfounded.
- On Natasha's side the possibility is rendered moot by her death in Endgame.
Of course, given that Loki gets the Tesseract in the movie's first scene, the invasion then needs to be explained, but I assume that Thanos knows that the Aether has some connection to Earth, even if he doesn't know the specifics, and figures once he's taken over the place, he can dig it up at his leisure.
At the current time, the Collector presumably still has the Aether, but Knowhere is poorly defended, so that's not a problem; the Nova Corps has the Orb, but they're not much more of a threat to Thanos; there are two other stones we're yet to see, and then we come to where Thanos' plans have failed, for now at least: the Tesseract is in Asgard and the Mind Stone is now literally a part of the Avengers. Neither of those is according to Thanos' plan, but no doubt he's making new plans.
- The invasion continuing after Loki had the Tesseract is fairly easily explained: That was the bargain. Thanos wanted the Tesseract; Loki wanted a world to rule. Of course, Thanos could probably have gone and taken the Tesseract himself, and razed Earth to ashes along the way, but a major thread running through the Marvel movies has been that he doesn't like to act directly, preferring to get others to do his dirty work.
- Since Loki is the one rulling Asgard and Thanos now has the Infinity Gauntlet, which was in Odin's treasure room, it seems likely that they are still associates, and so he would have no problem getting the Tesseract as well.
- Let's not rule out the possibility that the Infinity Gauntlet seen in Thor might have been purely a visual gag and not really there. What else is in Odin's treasure room? The Tesseract. And when Thanos picks up the Infinity Gauntlet, it doesn't have ANY of the Stones yet. If Loki could hand over the Gauntlet without anyone noticing, why not the Infinity Stone as well? Hell, why would he have even given the Aether to the Collector, if he was really planning to give everything else to Thanos? Posing as Odin it would have been easy to justify having Asgard "defend" two Infinity Stones." Really, it seems far too early to tell which side he's on, as there can be arguments made for him working either with or against Thanos.
- The gauntlets are in fact not the same, one is in in Thanos' possession and the one in Asgard is only a replica,, so Loki didn't really do anything. Thanos probably doesn't even know he's alive and rulling Asgard, no less, and since Loki is known for his impossibly well orchestrated plans, this and maybe even helping Thanos in the first movie could be part of one. You can never know with Loki.
- Alternately, she could be repeating the same words because the Hulk, when he's tired and starting to calm down, isn't all that different psychologically from an exhausted child worn out by an epic temper tantrum. Small children find such repetition reassuring and relaxing - just look at any bedtime storybook for cranky two-year-olds - and the Hulk, so far as Natasha knows, is not a sophisticated thinker.
Ultron is not just an AI Tony made. He’s an intelligence from within the Mind Gem, that found itself corrupted, imprisoned and given a mission he couldn’t understand.
- If this WMG is true, it's possible Thanos was aware of the intelligence within the Gem and gave it Loki as a contingency plan.
- Jossed. Theta Protocol was repairing and recommissioning the helicarrier that Fury showed up in during the final battle.
- I got the impression the Invaders line was referring to The Chitauri but the base WMG remains possible.
- He didn't need a psychic vision to see his greatest fear, because the Scarlet Witch actually manifested it: the Hulk going on a rampage in a populated area and hurting civilians.
- Which only begs the question: what was the Hulk seeing when he was hallucinating? What scares the Hulk?
- That doesn't really work when you see millions in property damage and no doubt many thousands of people being killed throughout the movie. There is zero possibility that no people died during the Hulk/Veronica, Cap/Ultron, and final flying island scene. Through out the world in which this movie took place, no doubt thousands of people died, which hopefully is mentioned and becomes a plot point in Civil War.
- The point is that the Avengers are constantly going out of there way to save civilians and avoid collateral damage (or when that isn't possible, limit it to property damage), whereas Man of Steel had exactly one instance during the entire final battle in which Superman saves a bystander and he certainly caused some of the civilian deaths himself during that fight.
- There's only one real instance of Superman actually endangering people during the fight in Man Of Steel, which is when he punches Zod through a 7-11 in Smallville (that could have been occupied, but obviously wasn't or else he would have said something). Otherwise, most of the collateral damage that Superman causes takes place in the (mostly) evacuated Metropolis. He also tries taking the fight into space to avoid getting other people killed (which again, Zod tries to do). It seems as though nobody ever considers that the other Kryptonians were responsible for much of the destruction and that Superman wasn't completely prepared to take them all on.
- The issue is that Superman didn't even try to take the fight out of Metropolis. As for the evacuation part that's pretty much of an assumption. Remember the fight came out of nowhere. If the city had a day or two warning then we can assume that it was mostly empty. Also Superman didn't even check where he was hitting Zod into or even attempt to take the fight elsewhere. Even Ironman made sure to at least try to take Hulk out of populated areas or at least check wherever he charged the Hulk into was empty of civilians. The criticism isn't that Superman is responsible for the destruction, but responsible for being part of it and not making any visual effort to avoid it.
- The point is that the Avengers are constantly going out of there way to save civilians and avoid collateral damage (or when that isn't possible, limit it to property damage), whereas Man of Steel had exactly one instance during the entire final battle in which Superman saves a bystander and he certainly caused some of the civilian deaths himself during that fight.
- Probably a Mythology Gag to the Ultimate Marvel versions, where they have an incestuous relationship.
- Also remember that Ultron is AI and may just not care about human taboos. These two are capable to do it and it's good enough.
- But if you remove the "Oedipal" issues, then there is no reason to call her Jocasta.
- Plus, it appears that "Jocasta" seems to be used as a name for one of Tony's backup AIs. A disk marked with that name is seen amongst several diskettes when he goes to get the "F.R.I.D.A.Y." diskette.
- Since Agent Carter was cancelled after Season 2, with Dottie last seen at large, her somehow returning to the good graces of the Red Room is at least theoretically possible.
- Cap: And if you die, you walk it off!
- Jossed by Word of God.
- This may very well be the case, however, JARVIS/Vision cut off his connection to the internet, so he wouldn't have been able to connect to it if he did. However, if Ultron's programming is still somewhere within Vision...
- That possibility is rendered moot be Vision's death in Infinity War.
- But revived by, well, his resurrection in WandaVision.
- That possibility is rendered moot be Vision's death in Infinity War.
- And if Dummy actually does lift it, it'll turn into a rather amusing debate about whether or not the little robot counts as being "worthy," with Stark continuously shifting between "anything I create has to be worthy of awesomeness" and "he's so useless that I should donate him to a community college."
- Wasn't Dummy already "donated" to the bottom of the ocean in the first act of Iron Man 3?
- No, his remains were dug out of the wreckage for presumable repair after Kilian was beaten.
- Wasn't Dummy already "donated" to the bottom of the ocean in the first act of Iron Man 3?
- Jossed as Mjolnir is destroyed in Ragnarok.
- Alternatively, she'll become so powerful that she can keep the Vision alive should something happen to the Mind Gem.
- Black Widow saw her training in the Red Room when she was young, something she's alluded to and later confirmed actually happened.
- Iron Man saw the rest of the Avengers lying unconscious or dead, and the location looked a lot like Sanctuary, the stronghold of Thanos. He's seeing the outcome of the Avengers' fight with Thanos in Avengers: Infinity War.
- Jossed.
- Captain America saw himself back in the 1940s, at a party celebrating the end of World War II. At some point, Cap will use the Time Stone (either on purpose or by accident) to travel back to the 1940s.
- Thor sees Heimdall and a number of other Asgardians in what seems like the Asgard version of hell, all blaming Thor for his failures. He's seeing the outcome of Thor: Ragnarok. In the original, extended version of the scene, Loki would've appeared too and dropped hints that he was impersonating Odin.
- Isn't that pretty much a given? The plot for the upcoming Black Panther film would be pretty odd otherwise...
- Jossed. He had apparently already been a threat to Wakanda years prior.
It's hard to believe that a character as important to HYDRA as Von Strucker would be killed off that easily. Given that HYDRA had completely taken over S.H.I.E.L.D., it'd be pretty easy for Strucker to have access to some LMDs.
First off, there's a multi-picture deal going on. That could've just been to cover up the death, but Joss Whedon has said that there was an alternate ending filmed where Quicksilver survived and was seen with the new Avengers lineup, so it seems like there were at least vague plans for the character to appear in multiple films at the time of casting.
Second, one of the Infinity Gems is the Soul Gem (tes, I know they're Stones in the films, but I prefer the comic nomenclature), and it's been a pet theory of mine that a Legion of the Unliving will factor into the MCU at some point, resurrecting various deceased characters. It's been a recurring threat in Avengers stories (usually created by one of Kang's numerous identities, but the Infinity Gems certainly leave it open to be a tactic for Thanos). The Mad Titan could definitely use dead friends (and perhaps some enemies) against our heroes, attacking them both physically and emotionally, and Pietro would definitely be a solid pick to use against them. Peggy Carter, and anyone who gets killed off in Thor: Ragnarok would also be obvious choices.
- Once again, it needs to be stated that Word of God is that he's dead for real. And having a multi-picture deal is not a guarantee you will be brought back, and this deal was most likely fan misdirection.
- Jossed. He never appears or is mentioned.
Because of the issue with Pietro and Wanda being Mutants AND Avengers, Fox and Marvel made a deal: Pietro will be of age and Wanda an infant in Days of Future Past and for their X-men sequels, and Fox won't bring their Wanda in as Scarlet Witch, and Marvel Studios will have Pietro and Wanda as twins in Age of Ultron, and Pietro dies and won't ever come back, and Wanda will be the prominent twin for Marvel Movies. Thus, Fox and Marvel each get one of the Maximoff twins.
- Probably not. Fox has been notoriously stubborn in regards to deals with Disney. They added Quicksilver into DOFP only because they knew Marvel Studios was going to use him.
- Jossed; the events of Ant-Man happen shortly after Age of Ultron and Scott has to break into the New Avengers headquarters and ends up fighting the Falcon, who is wearing his new uniform.
- Doctor Doom, perhaps?
- James Gunn flip-flopped on it being Adam Warlock's cocoon, suggesting there's more to it than just being an Easter Egg. Don't count him out just yet.
- Actually Adam is now confirmed, so him showing up in Infinity War might not be out of the question!
- It actually is. He's been confirmed not to appear in Infinity War.
- Word of God stated there are two Gauntlets, one in Asgard and the one Thanos has.
- Jossed.
- Alternatively, due to the fact that the Mind Stone is an Infinity Stone, it's powerful enough to generate real clothes at a thought.
- In Civil War, he shows up in a nice comfy sweater, so this might be jossed.
- Probably jossed, thanks to the lawyers.
- Doesn't necessarily joss the rest of it, though—the reason they aren't call mutants is because X-gene mutants are virtually unknown in this universe.
- Very much back on the table given Disney now has the X-men in their control. Plus, think about it: how does the mind stone give someone super speed or the ability to alter reality? And it will probably be Strange who realizes this after spending time with her in the upcoming Multiverse of Madness movie and informs her that he thinks there’s more to her powers than she knows and tells her he brought a friend who he thinks can help her. Enter Charles Xavier. Bam, Mutants in the MCU.
- That farm looked pretty darn good to me.
- Jossed, given that their death in Endgame causes him to be on a vigilante rampage.
- Confirmed, as in Infinity War Bruce points out that Vision's mind is made out of J.A.R.V.I.S., Ultron, Tony, Bruce, and the Mind Stone.
- And to appease the comics fans, Betty shall be brought back, and for the sake of opportunities for drama or tearjerkers, Bucky will reveal that he trained and fell in love with Nat countless times, despite the constant wiping whenever HYDRA found out.
- Jossed. There are a few nods to the relationship, while there's no indication of any romance between Bucky and Natasha.
- If this WMG is true, then Ultron's feelings for her could be the film's version of his Oedipus Complex, given Wanda is in some ways, his "mother" (the vision she gave Tony is what pushed him to create Ultron).
- That would actually explain why Ultron is so similar to Stark despite being entirely formed from the Mind stone. He is Stark´s fear of his own potential.
- This would make for a pretty interesting fanfic.
- Jossed.
- Jossed: the time gem is the eye of agamotto
- Joss Whedon toys with the fandom on this;fan: How is Steve Rogers not worthy?
Whedon: Is he not? Are we sure? (teasing) Did he fail? Or did he stop? - Confirmed by Endgame.
- The subplot of Thanos becoming omnipotent by collecting all the Infinity Gems would be a lot less interesting, then. The audience may accept it if some other character already had that power, as long as it is some abstract entity such as Eternity or Infinity. The Willing Suspension of Disbelief would suffer a lot if we are asked to ccept that a human being developed godlike powers in a lab experiment. And note that even the comics had that same problem, so Wanda being omnipotent is now a canon discontinuity.
- A limited version of this does occur in WandaVision, wherein Wanda creates a perfect sitcom town in a burst of grief. The implications of this are explored over the course of the series.
- Jossed. According to Word of God, he was just being humble.
- Jossed. There's no indication that Tony ever tried to do that before his death.
- Based on Thor: Ragnarok, where Hulk acts much more developed and is able to speak sentences I'd say confirmed.