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"The Reason You Suck" Speech in this series.

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  • The Avengers:
    • In Avengers Annual #10, when Chris Claremont undid the hideous damage done to Carol Danvers a.k.a. Ms. Marvel in Avengers #200, he has her deliver a furious What the Hell, Hero? to the Avengers for allowing her to be taken away and brainwashed after she'd been raped and impregnated with an extradimensional being by her rapist, Marcus. The section of the story containing it can be fully seen here.
      Iron Man: We're very sorry, Carol. You two made a wonderful couple, we hoped you'd be happy together. Is there anything we can do to help ease your pain?
      Carol: [sweeping the end table in a rage] Didn't you do enough to CAUSE it?! [...] Wanda, I never wanted to see you — any of you — again. I hated you. Because when I needed you most, you betrayed me. [tears up in quiet anger] There I was, pregnant by an unknown source, running through a nine-month term literally overnight — confused, shaken to the core of my being as a person. A person, a woman. I turned to you for help, and I got jokes. The Wasp thought it was great and the Beast offered to play teddy bear. Your concerns were for the baby, not for how it came to be — nor of the cost to me of that conception. You took everything Marcus said at face value. You didn't question, you didn't doubt. You simply let me go with a wave and a bouncy bon voyage. That was your mistake for which I paid the price. My mistake was trusting you.
    • In the Avengers series The Kang Dynasty, Firebird gave one of those to Thor, who suddenly started to view the mortal lives as short and meaningless in response to being at the epicenter of the mass death in Washington D.C. She told him that, even if she's immortal as well, she would always care about the mortals. That her god notices even the death of a sparrow, and that's her role model, not Thor.
    • In Avengers: The Children's Crusade, Wiccan gives both the regular Avengers and the X-Men an earful about how they've been treating Wanda as an enemy when it's revealed that she was possessed and mind controlled into carrying out the events of House of M:
      Scott: So, what am I supposed to do, Speed? Welcome Wanda back and say, "It's okay. I know you didn't mean it. You can be an Avenger again, and we'll just pretend you didn't destroy millions of lives."
      Wiccan: Yes. After all, Magneto's killed untold thousands... and you made him an X-Man. Miss Frost was the queen of the Hellfire Club—and a murderer. Rogue was a terrorist for the Brotherhood of Mutants. Gambit was a member of the Thieves' Guild. And Wonder Man, Ant-Man, Hawkeye, Quicksilver, and the Vision all started out on the wrong side of the law... but I personally can't imagine the Avengers without them. And how many times has one of you been possessed by an evil spirit... or mind-controlled and forced to do things you would never do—to hurt people—to kill people—even people you loved? I'm not saying you should pretend it never happened. But I do think you should look at the whole picture. Whatever her crimes, Wanda Maximoff has saved lives—and saved the world—more times than we probably even know. She has proven herself again and again to be a hero. And what happened to her is bound to happen to every single one of us someday, if it hasn't happened already. The question is, how do you want to be treated when it happens to you?
    • In Avengers vs. X-Men #0, The Vision delivers one to the Scarlet Witch, when even he can't overlook her actions anymore
      Vision: I have empathy for all your life struggles. And I have empathy for the manipulations that you may have endured. But what I do not have compassion or understanding for is the idea that, when you were at your lowest, you chose out of the millions of choices and variables in front of you...You chose to overpower me and use my body as a weapon against my friends and my home. That I cannot forgive.
    • In Avengers: The Initiative #3, when Komodo has Spider-Man pinned down with a device to remove his powers just ready to stick into him and Spidey cracks a joke about the situation, Komodo doesn't expect that her snide retort is going to lead to a full-scale demolition of her in response:
      Komodo: [prepares to stab him with the device] Don't worry, Commander! He's mine!
      Spider-Man: Really? But Valentine's Day was months ago!
      Komodo: Always with the jokes, huh?
      Spider-Man: Fine. You want me to be serious? I can do serious. You've already lost.
      Komodo: No way. I've only got to prick you once, and—
      Spider-Man: Not gonna happen. You know why? Because I'm Spider-Man. And you're a dollar store version of the Lizard. See, I beat down guys like Doc Ock, Sandman and Venom all the time. And you're just not in their league. Oh, I'm going to win. And after you've crawled back home with your tail between your legs, you know what happens then? Then your buddies are going to stick one of those things into you!
      Komodo: What? No...!
      Spider-Man: Ah — you blinked. [he fires a web shot into her face so hard it sends her reeling] Game to Spidey. [hurls Komodo off of him with a kick] Let me tell you, you Initiative guys, you're real pieces of work!
  • Captain America addressed the entire nation of America in a What If? issue, calling them out for being so easily fooled by William Burnside's words while he was gone, and saying that by casting aside their belief that America stands for the freedom of all human beings, they've turned the country into a piece of trash. Ouch.
  • Wolverine gives the X-Men, including himself, one in AvX Consequences #1 by admitting that they totally failed in keeping Xavier's dream alive and that he died without seeing that dream come true.
    • Followed an issue later by Cyclops, now incarcerated for his actions during the event, giving one to Logan because it was all his fault all this happened the way it did, and he nearly destroyed the Earth by attempting to kill Hope Summers.
  • In the Civil War II epilogue issue The Oath, Captain America gives a private one to the superhero community on being too busy fighting each other to protect the people (although it should be noted that this speech is given by a Cap who has been secretly 'reprogrammed' to believe he's been a HYDRA sleeper agent since childhood).
    Steve: You call yourselves "heroes" while you waste most of your time infighting and settling petty grudges. You call yourselves leaders while you jockey around for authority and pecking rights, trying to make yourselves look good-while the truth is you've completely divorced yourself from the people you claim to protect. You have no understanding of what they want or need from you anymore.
  • Daken and X-23 take turns delivering this to each other during their rampage through Colcord's base. Daken tries to call her out on her empathy for others, believing that her skills as a killer make her better than everyone around her, and that her heart only forces her to hold back. Laura flatly tells him that she doesn't fight because she has something to prove, but for something bigger than herself. She then turns this around on him, asking why he holds back by not taking the risk of allowing himself to actually care for anyone. Daken doesn't really have an answer.
  • She-Hulk once threw a boulder at Super-Skrull and rattled off all the ways the real Fantastic Four would have avoided it.
    She-Hulk: The real Human Torch... he would have been able to melt that before it got anywhere near him! Mr. Fantastic... He would've bent with it. Invisible Woman could have made a force shield. The Thing would've just knocked it aside. But you... you're just a cheap-jack imitator! Even after all this time, you've got the FF's powers but no clue how to use them! And your over-confidence is going to sink you every time!
    • This turns out to be a bad idea, as Kl'rt immediately decides to spend the rest of the fight invisible.
  • Daredevil:
    • In the Guardian Devil storyline, Mysterio, after learning he's dying, launches an Evil Plan to ruin Daredevil's life and goad him into killing him. Daredevil beats him down; and then after denying him what he wants, verbally tears both the plan and Mysterio to pieces. Not disagreeing, Beck then admits that he does have one more idea to steal — Kraven the Hunter's — and promptly shoots himself in the head.
      Mysterio: D... Do it, hero... K... Kill me.
      Daredevil: I'm not going to give you the satisfaction. You think you can break me? You're a joke and a fraud. Now give me the baby and let's end this.
      Mysterio: A... fraud?! I'm... an artist! I n... nearly drove you... insane!
      Daredevil: You drugged me and killed people. There's no talent in that... just savagery.
      Mysterio: B... but... my dystopian nightmare...
      Daredevil: ...was nothing more than B-Movie material. An amalgam of whorish, clichéd devices. The supernatural intruding on our world? Didn't you use the same schtick on J. Jonah Jameson years ago? And trying to drive me insane? Kingpin nearly did it once. But you're no Kingpin. You're not even close. You think you've spun some sort of grand swan-song epic? Think again. You've just told yet another tale of a so-called super-genius endeavoring to drive his arch-nemesis — or, in this case, his adopted arch-nemesis — insane. Your whole existence is counterfeit. You've never had an original thought in your life. You're a product of too many movies and too much TV. Regurgitating only what's gone before. You're a Human Xerox, at best.
    • Daredevil delivers another one in issue #11 of Daredevil (Mark Waid) to Rachel Cole (as well as anyone who believes that True Art Is Angsty).
      Cole: You know what gives me the strength? The loss. We're alike that way, I imagine. Admit it: nobody's who a stranger to that particular pain could ever be as driven as us.
      Daredevil: Never[throws his staff at her face, purposefully missing it by mere millimeters] — don't you ever say that to me ever again. That is a repellent statement. It's a vomitous insult to every cop — every fireman — every soldier alive who steps up to fight for those who can't! I am sorry for your loss! But if you genuinely believe that only the death of a loved one can motivate a human being to take up a cause... then get your pathetic, cynical ass out of my way so I can do my job!
    • Daredevil delivers a truly epic one to Bullseye at the end of the Hardcore story arc after he pushes Matt to his Rage Breaking Point by targeting his girlfriend Milla, all while giving him a No-Holds-Barred Beatdown.
      Daredevil: I went looking for you, Lester. Did you know that? While back — I decided I was going to find you and kill you in your sleep. I was going to kill you and no one would ever know I did it. And in looking for you, I finally found out all about the big mystery that is you. Your secret, secret origin. And I know why it's a secret. It's pathetic!! I know about your prostitute of a mommy and how you don't even know who your daddy is — I know what happened to you in high school — I know!! And after finding out your entire pathetic, uninteresting story — I know why — I know why you keep coming around here, Lester!! You keep coming around here because you want me to put you out of your misery! Because you don't have the guts to do it yourself!! But I'm not going to do it!! You hear me?!! I'm not getting sucked into your nightmare!! Because I just don't care!! You here me, Lester, I don't care about you!! No one cares! You're an animal! Your mommy doesn't care. Your daddy never cared!!! No one cares if you live or die!! You mean nothing!! You are nothing! What is this? Huh? What is this, a tattoo on your head? You psycho!! What is this supposed to be? Your logo? Your super cool bad ass logo?
      Bullseye: It's your—
      Daredevil: Shut up, animal!!! You want my attention — I'll give you my attention. I'll give you some meaning. I'LL GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT!! THIS CIRCLE... IS FOR ELEKTRA!!! And this circle... is for Karen!!! And this center point right here...is for when you finally realize that no one cares!! That I don't care about you!! That Kingpin USED you!! That you serve no purpose in this world!! That you mean NOTHING!! And when you FINALLY realize how pathetic and disgusting you REALLY are... And you FINALLY have the GUTS to do what you are begging ME to do FOR you — WHEN YOU FINALLY HAVE THE GUTS TO END YOUR MISERABLE EXISTENCE...!! HERE!! AIM TRUE. Aim to kill.
  • Deadpool: Deadpool has been on both the giving and receiving end of this over the years.
    • Deadpool delivers a short, yet effective one before offing The Punisher by making him shoot himself in the head with one of Puppet Master's dolls in Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe.
      Deadpool: Today...after years of being a hard-ass killer of criminals...i got pwned by a cabbagehead doll. Thanks for nothing, righteous fury and vengeance. BANG!
    • He give one to the reader at the end of Deadpool Roasts The Marvel Universe. It can be found here
    • He gets another absolutely savage one when dealing with The Unbelievable Gwenpool.
      Deadpool: So you know you're in a comic book. Your own comic book, even. And you think that gives you special protection. What? Because you're popular? Well, I've never heard of you. Your name is Gwen? I guarantee anyone who doesn't read this thinks you're Gwen Stacy. Do you know who’s heard of me?! EVERYONE. I have had hundreds of issues. I don’t KNOW how many series. I guest-appear EVERYWHERE. Comics. Video games. TV shows. AND SO MUCH MERCHANDISE. And never forget, the Highest-Grossing R-Rated Film of all time. You, however, first appeared as a Backup in "Howard the Duck". Because they weren't sure if anyone would like you. You are the last person who can kill me.
    • He gets one delivered to him in chapter 34, the Secret Empire tie-in. After Preston finds out he killed Coulson, she beats him mercilessly, telling him he's weak-minded and because of it, she'd been thinking of a way to kill him for a while since nothing is scarier than being attacked by an unkillable puppet. Hearing this, Deadpool concludes that he made a mistake ever trying to be good because people only want him for Dirty Business.
    • Deadpool also gives a blistering one to a renegade SHIELD agent, who been in the vicinity of one of Deadpool's battles with another super early in her career, and was left permanently wheelchair-bound, and swore revenge on Deadpool for it. When her plan had culminated and Deadpool was in her trap and completely at her mercy, she revealed herself to him and explained the reason why she wanted to kill him. Deadpool then proceeds to lay into her. He tells her she probably wanted to be a SHIELD agent since she was a kid, the recruiters promised her adventure and excitement, she worked hard to qualify and was thrilled when she made it...but being a SHIELD agent is no different than being a firefighter or a soldier or a police officer. While he's sorry about what happened to her and never intended for it to happen, the job comes with risks and one of those risks is getting seriously injured or killed, especially when that job means being around metahuman battles. She's got no business bitching about it. Upon hearing all this, the woman is clearly shattered, shuts off the deathtrap Wilson is in, and leaves.
      Deadpool: Crap, lady. Pull your head out of your ass.
  • X-51 does this to The Watcher in Earth X, telling Uatu that his inaction, his refusal to help despite constantly witnessing suffering on a global scale, that was true evil.
  • Emma Frost accidentally gets one from her high school nemesis when she inadvertently reads the girl's mind during fencing practice. Upon learning that the girl was secretly scared of Emma, Emma was able to disarm her and win the fight.
  • In Fantastic Four issue #549 (October 2007), Sue Richards puts the Wizard in his place, culminating 45 years of taking levels in badass.
    Sue Richards: You're pathetic. One of the best minds on the planet and you waste it for years, doing magic tricks — then trying to best a man who'd never really harm you, despite your endless provocation. But that's the difference between my husband and me. He doesn't understand revenge. Me? I can't decide which of the many ways I can hurt you I'm going to use.
    • Before that issue, Sue took Doctor Doom down in equally epic fashion in Grant Morrison's Fantastic Four: 1234 issue #4 (January 2002):
      Sue Richards: Oh shut up and listen to someone else for once! Stop talking in that ridiculous way! What's your problem, Victor? What have we ever actually done to you to deserve this stupid waste of everyone's time? Are you listening to me? Sitting there with your stupid machines and your childish jealousy, when you should be curing cancer or taking your people to the stars! What's the point of talking to you? Would you like me to explain this in a language you understand? Try anything like this ever again and I'll put a thousand force field bubbles inside that mighty brain of yours and burst it from the inside. Toys. Honestly, you should be ashamed of yourself.
  • Gravity gives Hardball a dressing down in Fear Itself: Youth In Revolt so intense, he's actually crying out of pure fury and very nearly kills Hardball.
    Hardball: That it? Think maybe I can get back to helping people now?
    Gravity: Helping people? HELPING PEOPLE?! You don't help people. You help yourself. Always yourself. It doesn't matter who you hurt, who you kill..! What don't you get about being a hero, huh?! We're supposed to hold ourselves to a higher ideal! No it's not reality, but it's something worth striving for, dammit! I make you sick? I've seen so many people die, and you—to you it's, what, some kinda math problem? Some joke? WHAT?! You're a disgrace. You dishonor every hero living or dead that came before you. Innocent people, good people, they die. And a cold-hearted monster like you, you just keep on living don't you? Cap's dead. Nomad... You don't deserve to breathe the air they breathed.
  • Scott Lang (Ant-Man) delivers a scathing, venomous one to Doom in issue #16 of FF while beating him down:
    Scott: I guess if you want your armor, you can keep your armor. At least until I peel it off of you piece by piece by piece. Not that there was anyone inside that empty suit of armor. Oh, there may have been seventy or eighty kilograms of breathing, bleeding flesh housed inside — but certainly nothing I'd call human. You'd have to have a conscience, a soul to be a human being. And now I've saved the best for last.
    Doom: No! Not the mask! NO!
    Scott: Looky, looky! Imagine that. No scars at all. You think the world doesn't know you fix your face the instant you steal ultimate power? The Beyonder, the Life Force — all those fixed faces, all those mind transfers into new bodies and new faces. And yet every single time, you somehow end up scarred again afterwards. You know what I think, Doom? You scar your face yourself. For a man like you, it's much easier inflicting a fake imperfection on yourself than admitting to having a real one. It's not the ugly dead scar tissue of your face that isolated you from humanity, Doom. It's the ugly dead scar tissue of your soul. There's a word for people like you: sociopath. Someone utterly incapable of even conceiving — let alone comprehending — that other people are real. It's Planet Doom, population 1 — with 7 billion people-shaped cardboard cutouts for you to fold, spindle, and mutilate at will. I've had the misfortune of meeting people convinced you're not a monster. That you're nuanced. Layered. Deep. Having some of the cell-mates I had would soon cure them of that view. Sociopaths mimic human virtues the way jackdaws mimic human voices. Your nuance is the solid gold toilet seat in Saddam's palace. Your sophistication is the Wagner phonograph playing in the background at the Wannsee conference. Your depth is the hopper capacity of Uday's and Qusay's wood chipper. Your boast that "Doom never lies" is always the first lie out of your mouth. Your ruritanian code of honor is as constant and real as a Potemkin village, only a pretense to be the man you know you're not.
    Doom: And how are you any different than I am... hero? You invade my country, you destroy my property, you assault my person with the goal of first maiming and crippling and then murdering me.
    Scott: I know one way I'm different — I know I'm not God and don't deserve to be.
    Doom: Noooooo!
  • A villain-to-villain example happens when the Cobra decides to break up his partnership with Mr. Hyde, after deciding that Hyde is the reason the two kept losing to heroes. When the Cobra escapes from Riker's Island, he refuses to bring Hyde along, despite Hyde's pleas. Cobra told his soon-to-be former partner off thus:
    Cobra: Every time I've teamed with you, we've both had our heads handed to us! Well, never again! You may consider our partnership dissolved, Hyde.
    • This would come back to bite him. The Cobra and Mister Hyde were, up to that point, one of the longest villain partnerships in Marvel, but due to Hyde's insanity, the Cobra always had to watch his back. From this point on, the two would be mortal enemies.
  • In The Incredible Hulk #256, the Hulk ends up in Tel Aviv, Israel and befriends a young boy, Sahad, who has no interest in the fight between the Arab and Jewish people over what they consider the Holy Land, mostly because he can't read, so he doesn't understand what's going on. However, Sahad is caught in the explosion by Arab terrorists and Hulk is later Mistaken for Terrorist by Sabra (making her first appearance), attacking him when he tries to bury the boy elsewhere. Ultimately, Hulk gets pissed off and tearily tells off Sabra:
    Hulk: Boy died because boy's people and your people want to own land! Boy died because you wouldn't share! Boy died because of two old books that said his people and your people must fight and kill for land! Now, boy is dead— BUT BOY DIDN'T EVEN READ BOOKS! ARRGH! Hulk came looking for peace— but there is no peace here!
  • In one issue of Marvel Adventures, Thing delivers a calm but hard hitting one to the Molecule Man, who's possessing the body of a little girl:
    Molecule Man: See? Everyone will answer to me because I have real power! The world's never seen anyone like me before!
    Thing: Actually punk, I've seen plenty like you before. Yer just like some prank phone caller or Internet troll. You'll say and do anything as long as no one can see ya. Sure, ya got a lotta power, but that ain't what matters. You got a problem with people? Then you get out and tell 'em to their faces, instead of attacking from a hiding place. No one respects power trips or bribes. Standin' by what ya say — that's where ya get respect.
  • In the first Marvel Holiday Special, Spider-Man gives a brief, but effective one to a group of robbers trying to hold up a hospital full of sick children.
    Spider-Man: Sorry, Melvin, but threatening kids — sick kids — on the holidays — makes YOU guys absolutely the lowest form of pond scum that I've ever had the misfortune to meet!
  • The Mighty Thor: After his resurrection following Civil War (2006), Thor is met by Iron Man, in full-on "do as the government says or we'll attack you" mode. Thor remains utterly quiet while Tony keeps doing this. Then, Tony asks him what he says. Thor gets out Mjolnir.
    Thor: Yes. Things have changed. You have hunted down those we once fought beside and called comrades. Killed or imprisoned those who opposed you, regardless of their previous loyalties. Surely this would be offense enough, but you went further. Much further. [lightning starts striking around Tony] You took my genetic code and without my permission, without my knowledge, used it to create an abomination — an aberration — an insult — and this you told the world this was me. You defiled my body, desecrated my trust, violated everything that I am. Is this how you define friendship? Is it? IS IT?
    Iron Man: All right... I can see you're upset by this, but you don't know the full story here, Thor, you— [Thor knocks Tony down, then sends him flying with Mjolnir] I hoped to do this the easy way, Thor, but you leave me no choice. I'll apologize later. [the two fight, and Thor effortlessly defeats Tony without taking a scratch] You... you've been working out.
    Thor: No. There is only one difference. In this time and this place, I am no longer holding back.
    Iron Man: What are you—
    [Thor calls down the mother of all lightning bolts on Tony, completely disabling his armor, then tears the mask of the armor off, revealing Tony's terrified face]
    Thor: Give your orders and ultimatums to those who choose to obey, or are too cowardly to fight. Not to me. Or learn again the difference between a god of thunder and a man in a metal suit.
  • Original Sin: Dum-Dum Dugan gives one to Nick Fury when it turns out he was Dead All Along.
    Dugan: "Truth to power?" You delusional son of a bitch... if I was your conscience — if you gave a damn about me — you think I'd be here at all? You think you'd have desecrated my memory? Stolen my dignity? Turned me into your blasted wind-up toy without even asking? No, I ain't your conscience, you dumb bastard. I'm just your hairshirt.
    Nick Fury: My what?
    Dugan: Don't you get it? I'm just here to make you feel bad, Nicky. You know, about the torture, the executions without trial, all that stuff. I'm here to make it sting, just a little. See, as long as you feel bad about it, you're still the good guy, ain'tcha? You're the guy with the guts to get the bad things done, to make the hard choices. 'Cause it's so hard to kick every principle we ever fought for into the gutter, ain't it? But, oh, you gotta! You gotta be a tough guy! Gotta be a man! All the things we killed and died for, all those morals and values - they're for the weak, ain't they? For the little people! The ones who don't know how the world works! Not for Nick Fury! Not for the grand high asshole on his precious wall! You want to kill threats to humanity, Nicky? MAYBE YOU SHOULDA STARTED WITH YOURSELF!
  • In Secret Wars (1984), one of Doctor Doom's experiments gives superhuman strength and resilience to a timid woman who'd been bullied as a child, and she promptly resolves to treat anyone weaker than herself (which is just about everyone now) just as badly as she'd been treated, becoming the supervillain Titania. During a major battle, she ends up going one-on-one with Spider-Man, ranting about how she used to be weak, but now "I'll crush anybody who gets in my way, especially miserable little wimps like you!" Until she discovers that she can't lay a glove on the weaker but much faster and more experienced wallcrawler...
    Titania: [swinging and missing] When I get you I'll— [gets punched in the face] Aggh!
    Spider-Man: All you're going to get is frustrated... and eventually thrashed!
    Titania: No! It's not fair! [gets a two-fisted punch from above] UHH!
    Spider-Man: But if we were fighting in a broom closet, that'd be fair right?
    Titania: Stop it! Stop it! Stop it!
    Spider-Man: [bouncing off a wall to grab her by the leg] You ought to be happy, Cuddles! You aspired to be a bully, and man, you're a classic! [throwing her through a wall to end the fight] You talk tough and nasty when you've got the upper hand, but when you're losing, well, that's when the whining little whimp-ette inside comes spilling out!
  • In Secret Empire, Hank Pym delivers one to the whole Avengers team for their constant infighting and letting their egos and pride get in the way of working together to solve the threats facing them. Then Tony Stark snidely brings up the time Hank hit Janet...
    Hank: How dare you! [flips the table and begins beating down Tony] I discovered Pym particles. I took artificial intelligence to the next level. I founded the Avengers Academy! What have you ever done?! You were a lout and a cretin who made his fortune selling weapons to murderers! Your arrogance started two warsyour incompetence put Norman Osborn in power! And you try to lecture me?! Every day, I had to hold this monster inside me at bay — do you understand what he would do if I let him loose? He would incinerate the flesh of every man, woman and child on Earth and laugh about it! Every day I live with this, and I save the world a hundred times over! But I made one mistake — one mistake! Years ago! And it's all any of you will ever remember me for -- all you ever say about me! You think I can't hear the whispers?! The way you look at me when I walk into the room?
  • In the climax of the first arc of Thunderbolts, Moonstone finally stops her lying and manipulating by giving Baron Zemo a Punctuated Pounding complete with every reason why his scheme to Take Over the World is stupid, short-sighted, and egotistical — passing up a perfectly good opportunity to live in comfort as adored superheroes capable of pulling off years of subtler schemes.
    Moonstone: Let me explain something, Zemo. Let me tell you why I undermined your leadership at every turn. I've got a pretty simple philosophy of life. You want to hear it? It's this: Don't. Get. CAUGHT! Oh, I was stupid at first — I thought my powers made me invincible... so I ended up getting a record, getting caught. I was willing to ride it out, serve my sentence and start anew — but you press-ganged me into your scheme, and there went that. Still, it was a good scheme — posing as heroes — and we made it work. We had it all; public support, adulation — the perfect cover to pull any NUMBER of scams — and you went and blew it over just ONE! Who CARES about ruling the world?! Who wants to do that much WORK?! We could have run this con out for years before it got old! But no. You couldn't be smart — not when you could play Hitler like your idiot father!
    • During the team's first confrontation with Graviton, Moonstone manages to get him to leave by pointing out that, for all his powers, he doesn't have a clear goal beyond beating up heroes. This causes him to leave and think about finding a goal. In a later story arc, he comes back; having used his powers to create his own nation, Sky Island, where he reigns supreme in exchange of offering his subjects the ability to fly, allowing him to get whatever he wants. After defeating and capturing the Thunderbolts — with the intention to execute them — he has Moonstone brought before him, and essentially gloats about his success in her face, implying he might spare her if she becomes his. Moonstone's answer is to laugh in his face, while delivering another speech nearly as spectacular as the one she delivered to Zemo;
      Moonstone: You're kidding. I knew you were pathetic, but this is too much. I stung your ego before — so now you want validation? You want me to say you're a big, scary, powerful man? You're not. You're still floundering — which is why you've assembled this collection of clichés. With losers and hooligans to worship you — it's all you could think of!
    • In the 2022 Thunderbolts run, in issue #3, Gutsen Glory gives a short but succinct speech to both Clint Barton and Monica Brown after hearing them argue over the recent debacle in the field by explaining that they are both terrible leaders from his perspective. He calls Clint out on how he has yet to provide the structure and discipline that a team leader needs to give, which is especially apparent since he's working with one of the sanest and most stable Thunderbolts teams yet, then calls Monica out on how she isn't doing her job as second-in-command either but just standing back and waiting for Clint to fail so she can mock and jeer him. He then finishes by declaring they're both acting like this team is just a "temp gig" and tells them to either get their acts together or get out of the team.
  • The Ultimates: Jan gave one to Hank, detailing how he's not as great as he thinks he is, and how all his work comes from analysing her mutant power. Hank reacted with violence.
  • In The Unstoppable Wasp, Ying gives one to her girlfriend Shay's mother when Shay comes out to her and she insults her.
    Ying: Don't you move another step.
    Shay's mother: Excuse me?!
    Ying: You heard me. I am trained in seven kinds of martial arts and know one hundred and twelve ways to incapacitate you without the waiter even realizing I've done it. So, unlike the previous conversation, you're going to listen to what someone else has to say. Lashayla is a beautiful girl, and above and beyond that, she has a beautiful soul. She's kind and loyal and honest and she's put her life on the line for me at least twice already. And I lived my life up until the day I met her sure I was going to end up dying as a side effect of one of my experiments or in an assassination attempt gone bad. And I can't imagine why— maybe it's because I never had a mother— but Shay cares for your approval. She got all dressed up and had me dress up just to meet you and I see how you treat her and I think... ...how can this empty, self-absorbed woman look at that brilliant girl and not see the wonders that will change the world spinning in her eyes? So, I guess what I'm saying is: Thank you. I've always thought of myself as unlucky to have been raised without a mother, but I could have had one who was an empty, pretty gas bag like you. And then I might have been as amazing as your daughter and not see it in myself.
  • In Joss Whedon's arc of Runaways, Nico delivers one of these to both the heroes and villains of old New York, pointing out how their constant conflict and hard-headedness only brings chaos and puts the innocent in the crossfire, mainly the children. They continue fighting anyways, this being the Marvel Universe and all.
  • In Venom: Funeral Pyre, The Punisher delivers one to Venom when the latter tries to claim that they're not that different while trying to talk Punisher out of murdering a reporter undercover in a gang.
    Venom: We are trying to save an innocent. It is our mission in life, is it not?
    Punisher: More €#?!#, Venom? You've slaughtered numerous innocents. What about those guards at the Vault? You rationalize killing innocents to serve your own ends. You're nothing but a lunatic. We have nothing in common.

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