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Basic Trope: Villain brushes aside the hero's speech about evil.

• Straight:
  Bob: Dear father, why are you making life miserable for the people? You plunge the whole world into war just to ensure there is a strong ruler that will end war once and for all. Is violence the only answer to the world's problems?
  Emperor Evulz: So why are you pointing that impudent sword at me, son?
• Exaggerated:
  Alice: Spreading The Virus across the planet to kill nine-tenths of humanity won't help save the planet from ecological disaster! Humans are part of nature, too! And if we all work together, we can still stop the pollution, and...
  President Evulz: What are you talking about? I was just going to spread the virus so that my Evil Incorporated would be able to sell the vaccine — and name our own price! That whole "save the planet" line was just something I fed those silly eco-terrorists so they'd work for me for free! Those idiots!
  Alice: Why... you... you... ABOMINATION!
• Downplayed:
  • A naughty child dismisses his parents' chiding.
    Johnny: So you ate half the cake in one sitting, not considering either your own short- or long-term health or the fact that it was your sister's birthday cake. You have made people unhappy. How does that knowledge make you feel?
    Danny: I like white cake.
  • The villain doesn't point out hypocrisy, merely his own lack of sympathy for his victims.
    Bob: Why are you making life miserable for the people? Do you enjoy seeing others suffer, trembling, cowering, and silently cursing you wherever you go?
    Emperor Evulz: Yes.
• Justified:
  • Emperor Evulz is that megalomaniacal, he doesn't even believe that young and inexperienced people like Bob or Alice can have valid reasoning.
  • Emperor Evulz is just that evil and/or selfish that he disregards Bob's or Alice's words for his own agenda.
  • Emperor Evulz is a Knight Templar or sees himself as a Necessary Evil.
  • Emperor Evulz has Blue-and-Orange Morality to humans. So he found Bob and Alice's reason to be irrelevant to his 'evil' act.
  • Bob may be in the right, but this particular speech really doesn't make a lot of sense.
  • Emperor Evulz maybe a villain, but Bob himself has done reprehensible things, so his heroism is tinged with hypocrisy.
  • The setting runs on Gray-and-Gray Morality. Bob is an Anti-Hero and Evulz is an Anti-Villain, so Both Sides Have a Point.
  • Evulz sees through the insincerity of Bob's attempts to talk him down and calls him out on it.
  • Emperor Evulz tells Bob to get the usual 'destiny and honor' speech out of his system. Bob just punches him.
• Inverted: Shut Up, Hannibal!
• Subverted:
  Bob: Dear father, why are you making life miserable for the people? You plunge the whole world into war just to ensure there is a strong ruler that will end war once and for all. Is violence the only answer to the world's problems?
  Emperor Evulz: So why are you pointing that impudent sword at me, son? ...But enough of this nonsense. I see you've gathered friends from across the world. You've done something that I will never be able to do; you've gained The Power of Friendship. You are right, people are fundamentally moral. My time in this world is over." *drinks cyanide*
  • Evilz blows off the argument at first, but after the battle is over and he spends some time thinking it over, he seriously reconsiders.
• Double Subverted:
  Bob: Dear father, why are you making life miserable for the people? You plunge the whole world into war just to ensure there is a strong ruler that will end war once and for all. Is violence the only answer to the world's problems?
  Emperor Evulz: So why are you pointing that impudent sword at me, son? ...But enough of this nonsense. I see you've gathered friends from across the world. Do you think it will do you any good in the long run? What will you and your so-called "friends" do when your common enemy is gone? Turn on each other like starving rats, plunging the world into chaos once again? Or will you follow my example, and force them to your heel?
  • Evilz blows off the argument at first, but after the battle is over and he spends some time thinking it over, he reconsiders... And decides that Bob's argument was stupid after all.
• Parodied:
  • Bob's Kirk Summation is something along the line of Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking. And then Emperor Evulz denies his logic on the basis of improper grammar.
  • Evulz doesn't even consider Bob's speech.
    Bob: Dear father, why are you making life miserable for the people? You plunge the whole world into war just to ensure there is a strong ruler that will end war once and for all. Is violence the only answer to the world's problems?
    Emperor Evulz: Wait, I wasn't listening, could you start again?
• Zig Zagged: Emperor Evulz and Bob have a discussion on their respective justifications for their actions back and forth with each arguing against the last point made by the other and essentially being a Shut Up, Kirk!/Shut Up, Hannibal! cycle.
• Averted: The final battle isn't preceded by any kind of witty banter.
• Enforced:
  • The author want to show the audience how off from most people's sense of morality Evulz is.
  • They were running out of film, and so kept the banter between the two short.
• Lampshaded:
  Alice: It's a waste of time talking to him, Bob.
• Invoked: Emperor Evulz purposefully sets up situations to force Bob to act like Emperor Evulz just to rub it in his face at the thematically appropriate moment.
• Exploited: Knowing that Emperor Evulz will take the opportunity to point out their hypocrisies and lack of understanding, Bob and Co. take advantage of his distraction to attack him from behind.
• Defied:
  • Emperor Evulz shoots Bob before he can deliver his Kirk Summation.
  • As Bob makes his speech, he pauses and decides "Oh, fuck this." Cue No-Holds-Barred Beatdown.
  • Bob swears to his friends he will deliver his speech in a fashion that his father will never be able to contest. He delivers it as an extended Bond One-Liner.
• Discussed: Emperor Robert and Bob discuss how Emperor Evulz would otherwise love to jump on any hypocrisies in Bob's argument or his misunderstanding of the evil plan, but note that the hypocrisy or misunderstanding is rather reasonable, given the circumstances.
  Emperor Robert: If I were the hand wringing sort of man, I'd point out how much you've misunderstood the plan. Of course, that was the whole point, really.
• Conversed: I don't know why they even bother giving the lecture in-show: it's not like he's going to stop just because of one little speech.
• Deconstructed:
  • Emperor Evulz's attempt to dismiss Bob's arguments have some validity, but it quickly becomes apparent that he is stark raving mad and has no true basis for his own arguments other than self-serving denial.
  • Emperor Evulz's quick dismissal of Bob's Kirk Summation causes him to overlook a seriously good point that Bob made which ultimately causes Evulz's downfall.
• Reconstructed: While Emperor Evulz's attacks are primarily self-serving and inspire some Fridge Logic, he gets in some good points against Bob which demonstrate his failure to consider the implications of his own actions properly.
• Implied: Bob discusses his argument with his friends before he confronts Evilz, and says "I'm sure I can make him see reason.". Smash Cut to Evilz rolling his eyes and pulling out his weapon.

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