Headscratchers / Asura's Wrath

Headscratchers in Asura's Wrath.

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• How does Liam O'Brien do all this raspy screaming? I remember Vic Mignogna said he got throat pains if he did too much raspy screaming as Broly in one day. Here, O'Brien is doing this sort of voice as the protagonist, and as far as I know, he doesn't normally do roles with this much screaming. How does his throat not give up along the way?
  • Answer: It probably does. More than once. We just get to hear the good stuff.
  • He's mentioned on Facebook how the job is hell on his throat but evidently worth it to just ham it up.
    "Still regenerating the blood I sprayed from my larynx on this game, but the Hindu god of wrath demands sacrifice."
• This may be a coincidence, but how in hell's name can the Vlitra Core have the same shape and form as Berserker Asura!? The Gohma were created by that Golden Spider thing, so there's no way that the Vlitra Core can be anyway related towards Asura, what did it record his DNA from the last battle or something? Can someone explain what the hell is going on!?
  • Why couldn't it? The Golden Spider could have deliberately shaped the Vlitra Core to resemble Asura's Berserker Form.
  • There doesn't have to be very much connection. Asura got pissed, Asura turned into a magma monster. The Earth get's pissed, the earth manifests as a magma monster. It's just to show that they're similarly pissed. As in, at the very heights of being pissed. (And the golden spider could do any number of things to make it that way, regardless).
    • Asura's Mantra has an affinity of Wrath. Vlitra Core embodies the wrath of the planet. Because of their similar mantra affinity, it makes sense that Asura and Vlitra would have a similar form somewhere down the line.
  • Technically, Vlitra was an asura in hinduism mythology.
• What will happen if a technopath or ferrokinetic is used against Asura?
  • What do you expect? They can scoot his body around how they want until Asura gets pissed. At which point I think we all know what'll happen.
  • His arms will get teared off but they still have his head and feet to worry about.
    • Actually, according to part IV, he's made entirely of metal, or at least close to it. Of course, eventually, he would still get pissed enough to win said fight out of sheer fuck you.
• Why is it that several characters (particularly Asura) was shown flying repeatedly but in multiple situations, they just seemingly forget to use said ability?
  • It's likely they only use their aura to allow themselves to move in space, and actually can't use true flight with a couple of exceptions (Deus and Olga in the true ending come to mind).
  • Flight only really happens when the character needs to fly. Most of the time, Asura sticks to moving on foot because he's trying to punch someone/something in the face/protect someone, and flying doesn't help him much. Flight probably also draws on their power more than running, so demigods try to avoid flying when possible. See: Asura and Yasha using Yasha's corvette to take on the Karmic Fortress instead of just flying there themselves.
  • Asura doesn't really seem to fly, so much as jump really high and far, or make a controlled fall from an extreme height. He probably just prefers movement that he has better control over.
• Episode 15.5. Okay, Yasha used the same punch he used to subdue Wrath Asura, yet Deus was able to take said punch without flinching. The funny thing is that Asura with a weaker transformation, Vajra Asura, was actually able to knock him out cold. What gives?
  • Deus, at that point, was still at full strength. He hadn't spent most of two chapters getting endlessly punched in the face by Yasha and Asura.
  • That is pretty much the case. By that point, Deus has been through at least five consecutive battles with Yasha and Asura, and Asura kept on getting more pissed off with Deus, and kept on growing stronger as a result. By the end of the battle, that last punch was the strongest blow Asura could deal to Deus, and it was the fatal blow.
  • However the real reason it didn't work on Deus was resolve. Asura and Deus had strong resolves and Yasha had it temorarly in episode 15 but in 15.5 it was uncertain and shaky.
  • Had a bit of Fridge Brilliance when I realized the real answer. Deus' Mantra Affinity is Pride. The greater his personal pride, the greater the amount of Mantra he can draw upon. If you're throwing punches at him that are just bouncing off, that's just going to make him stronger, but blows that connect and hurt him are going to wound that pride and weaken him. Only with their combined effort could Asura and Yasha land hits that really hurt Deus, and wounded his pride enough to weaken him and force him to retreat. Then on the Karma Fortress they had to do it all over again, beating on him and surviving his counters until his pride was weakened enough that Asura could gain the upper hand.
• Why is Asura just called "Asura"? Granted, he could grow extra arms, but its kind of awkward to be born being named after a cruel and deadly race despite a being a (ironically) kind person.
  • That was either a coincidence or just simply a title given to user of Wrath.
  • Gosh, why would the name of the traitor demigod who has been reviled for 12,500 years come to mean "demon"?
  • Reverse that thought, let's remember that the world that this game depicts is similar to our world, not the same as our world, thus it is more likely that Asura's name is just a name, and not the name of a race
• Why doesn't Mithra look anything like Asura, when she's his daughter?
  • You do know that children can look wildly different from one of their parents in real life, right? Mithra takes more after her mother than her father. Also, remember that Demigods are superpowered cyborgs who can build doom fortresses the size of planets and sprout extra arms through raw anger, on top of other, equally insane things. They can alter their appearances if they want to.
• So are the demigods supposed to be androids? The Shinkoku soldiers sound like robots and look kind of like them, but never seem to be referred to as such, while the higher demigods have sparking wires revealed when they get cut and and bleed the same orange blood as the Shinkoku soldiers. But again, never referred to as being artificial in nature, and even have children.
  • The demigods are cyborgs of some odd type. They're sufficiently advanced to the point that what's biological, technological, and outright magical is extremely blurry.
  • It seems that only the Generals are cyborgs. Mithra was a demigod as well, but she didn't die at the end when the Mantra ceased to exist like Asura did because she had no cyborg parts.
• I wonder what the Hot Spring girls look like under their veils...
  • Check the bonus art if you have unlocked it. They're there.
• How do Asura's arms regenerate? They get torn off at least twice on occasion (not counting his four spare ones) but they either came back because his body reconfigured after death or he achieved Wrath Mode. Then after the battle against Kalrow he awakes in Augus' hot spring and finds his arms back to normal.
  • Whenever his arms come back it's after he either goes into his Wrath/Berzerker forms or comes back from the dead because both of those need him to be extremely angry and his Mantra is Wrath, it's probable that said anger gives him enough Mantra to solidify it into new arms, if he can grow six at a time, why can't he fix two of them? That explains why he gets more powerful when he's angry as well, the more rage he has the more Wrath Mantra is made in the area around him that he can use.
• This might be me here but is the game running on a bit of a Broken Aesop? We're supposed to accept that the 7 deities were wrong for harvesting the souls of gaea to provide mantra for the Brahmastra to use against Vlitra and the Gohma, which would be fine, except the only reason Asura is able to win against Vlitra at the end is because Mithra uses the remaining mantra to fire a beam at Vlitra to give an opening for Asura to charge in. So were the deities actually kind of right the whole time?
  • The use of the Mantra in and of itself was not bad. It was the methodology used to obtain it. The Shinkoku were running off of Mantra supplied via prayer prior to Deus' takeover, and the firepower provided by the Brahmastra was sufficient to control Vlitra. But Deus wanted to destroy Vlitra, which required a great deal more, so the Seven Deities set about harvesting mortal souls to power it. That was the bad part of it. Keep in mind also that the game is deliberately running on Gray-and-Grey Morality to begin with; the Seven believed that their method was necessary to save the world, which Yasha pointed out to Asura in their first fight, and as the events of the game show, they worked. So in an extreme, brutal, utilitarian way, the Seven were right. We have some tropes for that. That doesn't make the Seven morally correct in essentially perpetuating a brutal harvesting of humanity for twelve thousand years, and Asura's biggest objections to the Seven are the unnecessary cruelty of their methods. Keep in mind also that the original prayer-powered Brahmastra could have done the same thing as the current soul-powered one did in the final battle, as 75% of the Mantra assembled over the twelve thousand years was expended by Olga against Asura (after Wyzen wasted quite a bit as well against Asura) and then Asura and Yasha's rampage through the Karmic Fortress' core did a lot more damage to the Mantra stores. But what was left as enough for Mithra to blast open Vlitra to let them reach the core.
    Also, keep in mind that the Seven were not just gathering Mantra to power the Brahmastra, they were gathering it to empower themselves, individually, and let them rule as all-powerful gods over the mortals they were supposed to be protecting. And of the Seven, only Yasha, Augus, and possibly Deus were the ones who took that power only to defend Gaea, as the rest used that Mantra power to further boost themselves for their own sake.
    • You can scratch Augus. Remember that he didn't use it at all.
  • Incorrect. Mithra did not fire a beam at Gohma Vlitra. She used the collected Mantra to empower Asura and turn him into Mantra Asura. It was essentially a much more powerful version of what she did at the start of the game. The only real difference was the volume of Mantra being used, and how enraged Asura was.
  • Though mentioned throughout the rest of the game, Episode 15.5 really gets into this. Deus believed that his method was the only way to save the world. Being a Well-Intentioned Extremist/Knight Templar, he decided that the only possible option to destroy Vlitra was to use the souls of trillions of humans, and Yasha went along with him because he decided that this was preferable to eternal war. When Yasha witnesses Asura's power, he decides that Asura can destroy Vlitra instead of using the Brahmastra cannon, and confronts Deus about it in 15.5. Deus explains that he thought of countless other options beyond massacring trillions of humans, but he saw no other option. And the crazy thing is, he may have been right about it. The Brahmastra might have been able to kill Vlitra. We'll never know, thanks to Olga's terminal stupidity in using the Brahmastra against Asura. But the game leaves whether or not using the Brahmastra on Vlitra would work as an ambiguous question. Deus' method was the more brutal one, but it might have worked and was the only option he could see. Ironically, if it had worked as planned, Deus would have been Chakravartin's chosen heir and likely would have accepted the power he offered.
    • Don't be to sure. According to some of Dues' lines in one of the interludes, he planned to resign from his god status when all of this was over. Although if it meant keeping Gaea safe from Chakravartin then maybe he would have accepted.
• Why didn't Yasha just ride his Lone Wolf vehicle during Episode 13?
  • Didn't appear to be readily available from where he was, and might have taken too long to get to him. He needed to get to the cannon immediately.
  • Also, the Lone Wolf would be very exposed, and running along the interior of the Karma Fortress would keep Yasha from being exposed to the combined firepower of the entire fleet. If he'd just lifted off and flown there, the fleet would have shot him down. He needed Asura's help to actually break through the fleet, as by himself he likely would have been overwhelmed.
• The final ending of the series showed that people still remembered Asura and made statues of him across a city. Which raises the question, HOW IN THE SEVEN HELLS CAN AN ENTIRE RACE REMEMBER SOMEONE FROM 870,000,000 YEARS AGO!!?
  • When you parry a planet-destroying super laser fired by God, who is the size of several thousand galaxies, using only your bare chest, you leave a goddamn impression. That being said, if these characters are getting reincarnated with mortal lives, they may have been repeatedly reincarnated over the millions of years, with each successive reincarnation of Asura doing something awesomely heroic and furious, to the point that Asura's likeness itself is ingrained in the collective memory of mankind.
    • Going off that, it looks like the man in the ending who was about to face the meteor is just the latest iteration in the Asura reincarnation line.
  • I think you missed the ending scene after the credits in Episode 22. Mithra has obviously just finished telling her father's story to the two kids sitting at her feet. The stories she told got remembered and handed down the way mythology, epic poetry, and fairy tales got handed down in our own world—by a storyteller to an audience—until a writing system was developed that could record them permanently.
• One thing I've always wondered. Due to how advanced the Shinkoku Civilization is, why didn't they try to leave Gaia ad find other worlds to populate? It's stated in some extra materials they came to be the most powerful civilization in not just all of human history, but in the entire universe as well, hinting they've defeated any other extraterrestrial civilization that tried to challenge them, even before they were threatened by the Gohma. Why didn't they just move?
  • The Emperor was planning precisely that. Deus...didn't take it well. He wanted to stay and fight the Ghoma until they achieved victory, and when the Emperor suggested they leave Gaia, that was when he decided to "remove" him.
  • If they did that, Chakravartin probably would've judged them a failure, destroyed them all and then restart the whole cycle.
• What happened at the initial Emperor murder? Was Asura drugged or what?
  • It was more like the emperor was set to fall dead by the time Asura arrived. I don't know the name of this trope, but I've seen it before. Kinda like finding a corpse in a spinning chair it doesn't fall forward until the person is revealed dead. So the emperor was a standing corpse until he was turned around. He was clearly dead even before Asura got there. If you remember, he was sent to see the emperor so him being sent there meant the emperor was known to be dead.
    • Pretty much. They've got some crazy-advanced technology, so killing the Emperor and propping up his corpse so that it would fall at a set moment would be trivial for them.
• Why even frame Asura? What did that accomplish?
  • Because "We killed the Emperor as well as one of our Generals and then enslaved his daughter" is going to raise a whole lot of raised eyebrows among the mortals and other demigods. Branding Asura a traitor both lets them blame someone for killing the Emperor and gives the Seven Deities a target to direct hatred and scorn against, as well as help solidify their power base.
  • The Emperor seemingly falling dead would have raised a lot of questions, so they needed a fall guy. They wanted Mithra for her power to manipulate Mantra, but knew that Asura would never allow her to be a soldier in the war. So, they decided to hit two birds with one dead Emperor.
• Why did Asura stay knocked out/dead so long each time? I don't mean why it took him so long to leave Naraka once he got started, but I'm pretty sure each timespan had passed before he started to leave Naraka. As in the first time he finally woke up in Naraka after 12,000 years and then began the journey to leave (doesn't seem to take that long once he got going). The second time was quicker, only 500 years, but that's still a long time for someone to be "unconscious" in hell.
  • All indications are that it was a combination of two factors: Asura's mounting rage speeding up the process, and Chakravartin's intervention. Asura awoke when Chakravartin wanted him to wake up.
  • Naraka is a timeless realm. It's also infinite. Getting out of there is not that simple, even for a god. The time spent there doesn't necessarily have any direct correlation to the time that passes in the mortal world.
  • Simple. THAT IS HOW LONG IT TOOK ASURA TO CLIMB OUT!
• I wonder, If Asura's Wrath was a proper anime then what would it be classified as? Shōnen or Seinen?
  • Definitely Shonen. Determinator protagonist, who can't win without help from friends, and eventually becomes strongest in the universe killing GOD? Sounds like a Shonen to me.
• Why didn't Asura enter Wrath or Berserker form when Durga died? Surely that would've stirred enough rage in his heart to trigger the transformation.
  • Wrath and Berserker form require the pent-up rage of thousands of years of fury, sparked by Chakravartin's prodding, in order for him to hit the peak he needs to become those forms.
  • He also didn't know what had become of his daughter at that point or what plans the others had for her, he just knew he had to save her. He seemed to have a stronger bond with his daughter, or at least it seems that way in the game since his entire purpose was focused on rescuing his daughter and alleviating her suffering; not once did he ever say anything about avenging his wife's death as well. It's also Mithra's crying that seems to upset Asura the most, probably because it emphasizes her helplessness; when she was a baby he wanted to punch something/someone, and hearing her cry the first time he's in Naraka spurs him into climbing up the tower even though he doesn't remember her or anything else.
• It's been about 500 years since Asura recovered from his fight with Wyzen. Not as long as 12,000 years, but enough to note that the Seven Deities took a mighty big blow to the ego. Why didn't they look for a replacement god for the Mantra of Violence? Or why didn't they change their name to the Six Deities during the time Asura was dead?
  • Probably because they were lazy and if Asura returned, they didn't feel like find a replacement that would just get killed again.
  • They were probably also glad to see that larger than life ham gone and didn't really want to find another one. Also, a bigger cut of all the Mantra for themselves with only six of them.
• This is a twofold question: Augus is specifically mentioned as being ridiculously powerful even though he doesn't rely on Mantra like the other deities, yet when Yasha tears out his own Mantra reactor in episode 20 it doesn't seem to affect his ability to use Mantra in any meaningful way. What gives? Speaking of Augus, why bother making him blind? The casual player would never have known he was blind were it not for Asura's line about ripping out his blind eyes. Being blind doesn't seem to impede him at all and just seems entirely unnecessary.
  • It honestly just seems to be that they didn't want to change his design. His design was what they were going to use for Asura at first after all. Maybe they just didn't want to go through the effort to change it and decided "Meh, he's blind. Explains his white eyes."
    • It does, however, open a new can of worms. Why does Augus specifically mention his love of beautiful women when he can't tell what any of them look like?
  • Discussed on the Fridge Brilliance page: Yasha's affinity is melancholy, and the act of tearing out his own reactor to help fuel Asura will kill him, so he's become intensely melancholy by that point, which just helps to fuel his power even more. Once he's stopped being melancholy and is at peace thanks to Asura being able to match him, he finally dies.
• With Episode 22's reveal that Mithra was the Narrator All Along... how did she know about the parts she wasn't there for?
  • Because of Plot Device of course.
    • Don't forget she was temporarily merged with the Golden Spider, who would know all of the story already.
• How can something the size of HALF THE PLANET, come out of the planet THEN the planet is fine afterward, and im assuming that where it comes out is randomish, what happened to the people living where it breaks out of the crust?
  • Civilization probably recovered while Asura was in the afterlife for a bajillion years.

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