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Fridge Brilliance:

  • Two actors in this film notoriously were Not Even Bothering with the Accent, Kevin Costner and Christian Slater... and their characters turn out to be half-brothers. Of course, it makes the fact that the parent they had in common was freaking BRIAN BLESSED all the more puzzling.
    • Given that the movie takes place during the reign of Richard I, all the characters should be speaking Early Middle English, something of a transitional period between Beowulf and Chaucer. With this in mind, the other actors' modern English accents aren't really any more "correct" than Costner and Slater's American ones. (And it'd be nearly impossible to duplicate an Anglo-Norman accent anyway, since the language probably didn't sound much like modern French at all. Why try?)
      • There is a dialect of French spoken on The Channel Islands that is probably the closest of any modern French to Anglo-Norman French, but not many productions are going to get their actors learn a obscure language that only a few thousand people actually speak, unless they were really going for accuracy or it was especially made for those speakers.
    • Some linguists theorize that the American accent (or indeed, something that sounds similar to it) actually is the original British accent.
    • Furthermore, as part of the Anglo-Norman aristocracy, Robin may not have spoken English: Norman French was the language of the English nobility of the time, and in fact Richard himself didn't speak English at all.
    • Why were they even speaking with the same accent in the first place (apart from the obvious explanation)? Your accent is set by listening to your parents' speech, how the people around you talk, and the area where you grew up. While it is possible to lose an accent or for it to change over time, that would only happen if you move to a different geographic area, and know what that other accent sounds like, so you can pick it up. Will knows who Robin is, presumably from what his mother has told him, and from stories he has heard about him; however, Robin has no idea who Will is until they meet for the first time by the river, and even then he doesn’t know who he really is until near the end of the movie. This suggests that they didn’t grow up on the same estate. The rest of Merry Men, who are presumably all from the areas local to Sherwood Forest, don’t speak with same accent eithernote , so how on earth did Will end up with the same accent as Robin if they didn’t grow up together, and never knew each other, and Will only had very limited contact, if any at all, with their shared father, who also didn’t speak with the same accent, and had no contact with anyone else who spoke like that?
      • Robin is several years older than Will, so they could have grown up in the same town without actually meeting (especially since Robin was noble and Will was not), but it's unclear at best. But it stands to reason that Will's mother must have come from someplace at least reasonably close to Locksley; otherwise, how would Robin's father have ever met her, let alone fathered a child with her?
      • I agree that Will’s mother must have been living on Locksley land for her to have caught Lord Locksley’s eye, but I was under the impression that she then moved away from the area when Lord Locksley broke it off with her over Robin, and went back to her life as a peasant somewhere else, where she gave birth to Will (This might also explain why neither Lord Locksley or Robin realised she was pregnant: if she was in the early stages when she left, she wouldn’t have been showing, and if she wasn’t living on their lands anymore, they wouldn’t have seen her baby bump getting bigger, and put 2 and 2 together). Some of the original ballads mention Will as coming from a place called Maxfield (possibly Mansfield, Notts), so she could have fled to there, but since the movie never mentions whereabouts Locksley Manor is within Nottinghamshire (It could be close to Maxfield/Mansfield, or it could be on the other side of the county), nor where Will is actually from, other than vague hints that it’s the surrounding area, it’s hard to know for sure whether they grew up near each other, hence my query about them having the same unique accent that none of the other merry men, who are also presumably meant to be local to the areas surrounding Sherwood Forest, do.
  • The Sheriff and his cousin, Guy of Gisbourne, both eye-rolling when the Bishop asks for God's blessings on the Sheriff? The Sheriff is a devil worshiper (and so is his cousin, possibly).

Fridge Horror:

  • In the extended version of the movie, we learn a little about the Sheriff of Nottingham's parentage. The witch Mortianna herself was his mother, and she killed a baby in the palace so that she could substitute her baby in his place. This brings up a number of horrific implications.
    • Probably one of the most subtle is shown when Mortianna talks about how she has been seen as a freak all of her life. Given that, how did she become pregnant? Considering her lack of sympathy for Marian's plight, it is likely that the Sheriff is the product of rape, perhaps even rape by a nobleman... in which case, having her son produce the heir to the throne by raping a nobleman's daughter is the ultimate act of revenge.
    • This also explains why the Sheriff, upon demanding a "proper" wedding to Maid Marian, snarls that "I will not take her until we are properly wed! For once in my life, I will have something pure!"
      • This is also Fridge Brilliance as well. Had the Sheriff simply raped Marian without being married in a Christian ceremony first, the resulting child would simply be a bastard, and therefore would not be eligible to ascend to the throne. The pair's plan all along was for the Sheriff to marry Marian, father a son, use her royal blood as part of a coup to take the throne, (possibly) kill her off, and rule as regent in his son's name.
    • Mortianna's plan on how she got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place also wanders into Fridge Logic if you know anything about how Medieval Sheriffs were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that he had to be recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even if they did that, then it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortianna could had gone through all that with no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the baby swap into a family with a good name was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. Even then, the movie never explains how she thought that making her son become a civil servant would have helped her cause in the first place. Also, her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - Richard already had many legitimate heirs (including a brother and nephew) whose claims would come before any child of Marian's would have ever been considered. So this wouldn't have worked unless they were planning of murdering everyone whose claim to the throne was higher, at which point you would think someone would notice something suspicious was going on after the first few had died. This could have also led to a long drawn-out war with other families, and even countries - some French Dukes would have had just as good a claim - which is unlikely that Mortianna and the Sheriff could have won, considering the trouble they are having with a rag tag bunch of outlaws. If Mortianna was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family, then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative of the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?
      • This has all the earmarks of a slow progression into madness rather than a carefully-thought-out Batman Gambit developed over the course of a few months and put meticulously into action. She likely took the first step out of desperation and revenge, and then developed her slow notions of grandeur as he rose through the ranks.

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