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* OlderThanTheyThink: For anyone with an inkling of familiarity with the series (or the first person shooter genre, or video games in general), killing Nazis is not a new development in the slightest. That, however, has not stopped some from interpreting the game as a reference to the political climate at the time of the game's release in late 2017, not even a full year into UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump's presidency.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: For anyone with an inkling of familiarity with the series (or the first person shooter genre, or video games in general), killing Nazis is not a new development in the slightest. That, however, has not stopped some from interpreting the game as a reference to the political climate at the time of the game's release in late 2017, not even a full year into UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump's presidency.presidency (though the fact the comparison was made by members of the game's own marketing team might have had something to do with that).
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** [[AbusiveParents Rip]] may have [[spoiler:gotten all the power he wanted for years under the Nazi rule]] and [[TheSociopath felt nothing about it]], but he outright lists off B.J.'s [[OneManArmy accomplishments]] as terrorist acts [[spoiler:and still thinks he can [[UnderestimatingBadassery take on his son with nothing more than a double-barreled shotgun with full intent on killing him]]. ''Days, maybe even hours at best, after said son nuked Roswell and forced the Nazi high command to run with their tails between their legs.'']] [[KarmicDeath This ends about as well as you'd expect,]] [[ThanatosGambit though that might have been his intention]], as he also stalled BJ for long enough that the Nazis were able to ambush him in full force.
** Super Spesh is a known (former) lawyer and social deviant, and absolutely badgers the hell out of the Nazis standing guard [[spoiler: over a captured B.J. to see him and attempt to stage a rather basic escape plan.]] The latter sort of thing was already pushing it, [[spoiler: but Frau Engel puts a bullet in his head when Spesh [[FailedASpotCheck forgets to check the door behind him]] in the midst of his attempted plan. From inside B.J.'s cell which, as Spesh mentioned only minutes beforehand, ''has the highest security he's ever seen.'' The only reason he even got that close is because Frau Engel knew his ruse and [[ForTheEvulz let him get in there just to fuck with him]], a ConspiracyTheorist such as him should've seen it coming.]]
** Frau Engel [[spoiler:goes ahead with executing B.J. when he's captured without wasting too much time, yes, beheading him like she did with Caroline Becker, but unlike the latter scenario, she did not think to obliterate B.J's head in a quick and easily confirmed matter for good measure instead of flashily dropping it down a chute in case the unthinkable happened (which it did). When a GiantMook has more foresight than you do, you're clearly doing something wrong]].
** The entire Nazi regime could only blame themselves when they ''forget to factor in Sigrun Engel, who defected towards the Kreisau Circle'', and never lifted a finger to account for it. Namely, [[spoiler:the encrypted communication codes. Even if the Nazis were infamously complacent in their intel divisions in real life, this is a massive blunder that any sane person should have considered]].
** [[AbusiveParents Rip]] may have [[spoiler:gotten all the power he wanted for years under the Nazi rule]] and [[TheSociopath felt nothing about it]], but he outright lists off B.J.'s [[OneManArmy accomplishments]] as terrorist acts [[spoiler:and still thinks he can [[UnderestimatingBadassery take on his son with nothing more than a double-barreled shotgun with full intent on killing him]]. ''Days, maybe even hours at best, after said son nuked Roswell and forced the Nazi high command to run with their tails between their legs.'']] [[KarmicDeath This ends about as well as you'd expect,]] [[ThanatosGambit though that might have been his intention]], as he also stalled BJ for long enough that the Nazis were able to ambush him in full force.
** Super Spesh is a known (former) lawyer and social deviant, and absolutely badgers the hell out of the Nazis standing guard [[spoiler: over a captured B.J. to see him and attempt to stage a rather basic escape plan.]] The latter sort of thing was already pushing it, [[spoiler: but Frau Engel puts a bullet in his head when Spesh [[FailedASpotCheck forgets to check the door behind him]] in the midst of his attempted plan. From inside B.J.'s cell which, as Spesh mentioned only minutes beforehand, ''has the highest security he's ever seen.'' The only reason he even got that close is because Frau Engel knew his ruse and [[ForTheEvulz let him get in there just to fuck with him]], a ConspiracyTheorist such as him should've seen it coming.]]
** Frau Engel [[spoiler:goes ahead with executing B.J. when he's captured without wasting too much time, yes, beheading him like she did with Caroline Becker, but unlike the latter scenario, she did not think to obliterate B.J's head in a quick and easily confirmed matter for good measure instead of flashily dropping it down a chute in case the unthinkable happened (which it did). When a GiantMook has more foresight than you do, you're clearly doing something wrong]].
** The entire Nazi regime could only blame themselves when they ''forget to factor in Sigrun Engel, who defected towards the Kreisau Circle'', and never lifted a finger to account for it. Namely, [[spoiler:the encrypted communication codes. Even if the Nazis were infamously complacent in their intel divisions in real life, this is a massive blunder that any sane person should have considered]].
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** The courthouse battle transforms into this on any difficulty from "Bring 'em on!" and above. You start in the center of the room with your weaponry ready, but the start is rather jarringly abrupt and you're suddenly surrounded by enemies on every side. Considering you're a GlassCannon in this game, at best, and enemies spawn all around as well as attempting to flank you, holding a position in the room is hell as it is. While there's plenty of cover, it's also likely to get shredded as the fight runs on, giving foes no small amount of opportunities to gun you down the instant you get reckless or caught off-guard. [[ThisIsGonnaSuck Good luck not dying in the first five seconds]] on the hardest difficulties. [[spoiler: Made all the more annoying by the fact that they whole thing is a fantasy so none of it actually matters but you still have to complete it to proceed.]]
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** The courthouse battle transforms into this on any difficulty from "Bring 'em on!" and above. You start in the center of the room with your weaponry ready, but the start is rather jarringly abrupt and you're suddenly surrounded by enemies on every side. Considering you're a GlassCannon in this game, at best, and enemies spawn all around as well as attempting to flank you, holding a position in the room is hell as it is. While there's plenty of cover, it's also likely to get shredded as the fight runs on, giving foes no small amount of opportunities to gun you down the instant you get reckless or caught off-guard. [[ThisIsGonnaSuck Good luck not dying in the first five seconds]] on the hardest difficulties. [[spoiler: Made all the more annoying by the fact that they the whole thing is a fantasy [[DreamSequence fantasy]] so none of it actually matters but you still have to complete it to proceed.]]
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** The courthouse battle transforms into this on any difficulty from "Bring 'em on!" and above. You start in the center of the room with your weaponry ready, but the start is rather jarringly abrupt and you're suddenly surrounded by enemies on every side. Considering you're a GlassCannon in this game, at best, and enemies spawn all around as well as attempting to flank you, holding a position in the room is hell as it is. While there's plenty of cover, it's also likely to get shredded as the fight runs on, giving foes no small amount of opportunities to gun you down the instant you get reckless or caught off-guard. [[ThisIsGonnaSuck Good luck not dying in the first five seconds]] on the hardest difficulties.
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** The courthouse battle transforms into this on any difficulty from "Bring 'em on!" and above. You start in the center of the room with your weaponry ready, but the start is rather jarringly abrupt and you're suddenly surrounded by enemies on every side. Considering you're a GlassCannon in this game, at best, and enemies spawn all around as well as attempting to flank you, holding a position in the room is hell as it is. While there's plenty of cover, it's also likely to get shredded as the fight runs on, giving foes no small amount of opportunities to gun you down the instant you get reckless or caught off-guard. [[ThisIsGonnaSuck Good luck not dying in the first five seconds]] on the hardest difficulties. [[spoiler: Made all the more annoying by the fact that they whole thing is a fantasy so none of it actually matters but you still have to complete it to proceed.]]
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** That Nazis and the UsefulNotes/KuKluxKlan are seen collaborating in ''The New Colossus'' becomes more uneasy following the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally 2017 protests in Charlottesville, Virginia]]. Although many people have stated that this actually ''[[ValuesResonance improves]]'' the game, as it both systematically explains how [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped white supremacist Aryan ideology is toxic to everything it touches]] and allows you to [[CatharsisFactor brutally murder anyone who can't or won't learn that lesson.]]
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** That Nazis and the UsefulNotes/KuKluxKlan are seen collaborating in ''The New Colossus'' becomes more uneasy following the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally 2017 protests in Charlottesville, Virginia]]. Although many people have stated that this actually ''[[ValuesResonance improves]]'' the game, as it both systematically explains how [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped white supremacist Aryan ideology is toxic to everything it touches]] touches and allows you to [[CatharsisFactor brutally murder anyone who can't or won't learn that lesson.]]
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** This game does ''not'' shy away from showing how Nazi ideology corrupts everything and everyone who believes in it, and how collaborating with it is a product of selfishness and racism.
** The game has a surprising amount of PetTheDog and CryForTheDevil moments as depicted in various letters from Nazis to their families. Oddly enough, this doesn't go against the former theme - the intended message is most likely "Yes, these people have family and others they care about. But they've been corrupted by Nazism, and they're terrible people who believe in a murderous ideology that destroys everything around them, so screw 'em."
** The game also makes a point with [[spoiler:Sigrun]] that calling and accusing someone of being a Nazi when they aren't, or lashing out at allies who only want to help, can be just as cruel and damaging as any other kind of label or prejudice.
** When a woman named Adler flirts with a German officer, he returns her affections and praises her zeal for agreeing with Nazi ideals, until she makes a misguided remark about 'impure Austrians', at which moment he ''immediately'' turns on her, because Hitler himself is Austrian. The lesson in this is twofold: Firstly, trying to cozy up to racists will make you a jackass. Secondly, trying to cozy up to racists ''will'' backfire when they inevitably turn on you for your inevitable misstep, because there's no consistency or sense in such misguided hatred.
** You don't have to follow up your parents' steps if they are in the wrong, as both B.J. (with his father [[LesCollaborateurs Rip]]) and Sigrun (with her mother [[BigBad Engel]]) display across the game.
** In addition to the bit above regarding BJ's father, Rip's racism and the complacent attitude of many Americans to the Nazi occupation bring up the important fact that 20th century America still had grave problems of its own regarding bigotry even when it fought the Third Reich. This leads to the aesop of never being apathetic in times of injustice, especially when Grace points out that marginalized folk have fought and still fight for their rights on a daily basis. Oppression doesn't need jackbooted Nazis to be any less real.
** This game does ''not'' shy away from showing how Nazi ideology corrupts everything and everyone who believes in it, and how collaborating with it is a product of selfishness and racism.
** The game has a surprising amount of PetTheDog and CryForTheDevil moments as depicted in various letters from Nazis to their families. Oddly enough, this doesn't go against the former theme - the intended message is most likely "Yes, these people have family and others they care about. But they've been corrupted by Nazism, and they're terrible people who believe in a murderous ideology that destroys everything around them, so screw 'em."
** The game also makes a point with [[spoiler:Sigrun]] that calling and accusing someone of being a Nazi when they aren't, or lashing out at allies who only want to help, can be just as cruel and damaging as any other kind of label or prejudice.
** When a woman named Adler flirts with a German officer, he returns her affections and praises her zeal for agreeing with Nazi ideals, until she makes a misguided remark about 'impure Austrians', at which moment he ''immediately'' turns on her, because Hitler himself is Austrian. The lesson in this is twofold: Firstly, trying to cozy up to racists will make you a jackass. Secondly, trying to cozy up to racists ''will'' backfire when they inevitably turn on you for your inevitable misstep, because there's no consistency or sense in such misguided hatred.
** You don't have to follow up your parents' steps if they are in the wrong, as both B.J. (with his father [[LesCollaborateurs Rip]]) and Sigrun (with her mother [[BigBad Engel]]) display across the game.
** In addition to the bit above regarding BJ's father, Rip's racism and the complacent attitude of many Americans to the Nazi occupation bring up the important fact that 20th century America still had grave problems of its own regarding bigotry even when it fought the Third Reich. This leads to the aesop of never being apathetic in times of injustice, especially when Grace points out that marginalized folk have fought and still fight for their rights on a daily basis. Oppression doesn't need jackbooted Nazis to be any less real.
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* SequelDifficultySpike: On a baseline, ''The New Colossus'' is noticeably harder than ''The New Order'' or ''The Old Blood''. You no longer have the health and armor upgrades that significantly improved your durability, and in fact your health will be limited to 50 for the first half of the game. Player damage feedback also seems significantly worse than in the previous games, making it easy for enemies outside your field of view to blast away over half your health[=/=]armor before you even notice. This is especially apparent when replaying missions with the Combat Simulator, where you don't have access to weapon upgrades like the assault rifle's armor-piercing sniper mode or the Laserkraftwerk's charged shot which significantly tilt the balance of the game back in your favor. In addition, enemies simply do way more damage here than they did in the previous game.
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* HilariousInHindsight In the Fergus timeline of ''The New Order'', Tekla accuses BJ of cheating death, due to his disappearance at Deathhead's castle. In ''The New Colossus'', [[spoiler:BJ, once again, cheats death, on live television, no less]].
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* BrokenBase: The story's treatment of [[spoiler: Rip, BJ's father]], has been the subject of debate. [[spoiler: Mainly, Rip's horrible racism and selling of BJ's mother into a concentration camp seems wildly different from his characterization as a stern but caring father in BJ's monologues in ''The New Order''. Whether or not it qualifies as a {{Retcon}} is up for debate, but the main point of contention many have with the twist is not so much the content, but the fact that he's such a repentantly evil and abusive person that it's incredibly unlikely BJ would ever look up to him. This makes many of BJ's monologues in the first game about the lessons he learned from his parents seem nonsensical.]]
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* BrokenBase: The story's treatment of [[spoiler: Rip, BJ's father]], has been the subject of debate. [[spoiler: Mainly, Rip's horrible racism and selling of BJ's mother into a concentration camp seems wildly different from his characterization as a stern but caring father in BJ's monologues in ''The New Order''. Whether or not it qualifies as a {{Retcon}} is up for debate, but the main point of contention many have with the twist is not so much the content, but the fact that he's such a repentantly unrepentantly evil and abusive person that it's incredibly unlikely BJ would ever look up to him. This makes many of BJ's monologues in the first game about the lessons he learned from his parents seem nonsensical.]]]] Even more confusing is how in [[RealLife real life]], [[CriticalResearchFailure Slavs were reviled by the Nazis]]; ''especially'' Poles; making his collaboration very unlikely.
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** Super Spesh is a known (former) lawyer and social deviant, and absolutely badgers the hell out of the Nazis standing guard [[spoiler: over a captured B.J. to see him and attempt to stage a rather basic escape plan.]] The latter sort of thing was already pushing it, [[spoiler: but Frau Engel puts a bullet in his head when Spesh [[FailedASpotCheck forgets to check the door behind him]] in the midst of his attempted plan. From inside B.J.'s cell which, as Spesh mentioned only minutes beforehand, ''has the highest security he's ever seen.'' The only reason he even got that close is because Frau Engel knew his ruse and let him get in there just to fuck with him, a ConspiracyTheorist such as him should've seen it coming.]]
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** Super Spesh is a known (former) lawyer and social deviant, and absolutely badgers the hell out of the Nazis standing guard [[spoiler: over a captured B.J. to see him and attempt to stage a rather basic escape plan.]] The latter sort of thing was already pushing it, [[spoiler: but Frau Engel puts a bullet in his head when Spesh [[FailedASpotCheck forgets to check the door behind him]] in the midst of his attempted plan. From inside B.J.'s cell which, as Spesh mentioned only minutes beforehand, ''has the highest security he's ever seen.'' The only reason he even got that close is because Frau Engel knew his ruse and [[ForTheEvulz let him get in there just to fuck with him, him]], a ConspiracyTheorist such as him should've seen it coming.]]
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** To some, Rip's villainy, though effective because of how down-to-earth it is compared to the crazy world-conquering Nazi superscience of the rest of the game, is hard to take seriously in part because Creator/GlennMorshower spewing racial epithets [[CrossesTheLineTwice just comes off as crudely hilarious]] rather than horrifying.
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** To some, Though Rip's villainy, though villainy is effective because of how much more down-to-earth and realistic it is compared to the crazy world-conquering Nazi superscience of the rest of the game, is for some it's hard to take seriously in part because hearing Creator/GlennMorshower spewing spew racial epithets [[CrossesTheLineTwice just comes off as crudely hilarious]] rather than horrifying.
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* BrokenBase: The story's treatment of [[spoiler: Rip, BJ's father]], has been the subject of debate. [[spoiler: Mainly, Rips horrible racism and selling of BJ's mother into a concentration camp seems wildly different from his characterization as a stern but caring father in BJ's monologues in ''The New Order''. Whether or not it qualifies as a {{Retcon}} is up for debate, but the main point of contention many have with the twist is not so much the content, but the fact that he's such a repentantly evil and abusive person that it's incredibly unlikely BJ would ever look up to him. This makes many of BJ's monologues in the first game about the lessons he learned from his parents seem nonsensical.]]
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* BrokenBase: The story's treatment of [[spoiler: Rip, BJ's father]], has been the subject of debate. [[spoiler: Mainly, Rips Rip's horrible racism and selling of BJ's mother into a concentration camp seems wildly different from his characterization as a stern but caring father in BJ's monologues in ''The New Order''. Whether or not it qualifies as a {{Retcon}} is up for debate, but the main point of contention many have with the twist is not so much the content, but the fact that he's such a repentantly evil and abusive person that it's incredibly unlikely BJ would ever look up to him. This makes many of BJ's monologues in the first game about the lessons he learned from his parents seem nonsensical.]]
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** Speaking of which, the fact that your health cap stays at 50 after you get the PowerArmor and doesn't get to 100 until you [[spoiler:get a new body]] in Chapter 6 has caused some grumbling from players who wish they got a health boost earlier.
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* CriticalDissonance: Reception on the part of critics has been very positive, with [[EvenBetterSequel critics praising the game's story and characters, as well as improving the intense gameplay from]] ''[[EvenBetterSequel The New Order/The Old Blood]]''. Among fans, it's more [[ContestedSequel divisive]], with some agreeing with the critics, and others finding problems with the [[ItsShortSoItSucks game's length]] as well as some of the changes to the gameplay and the cutscene-to-gameplay ratio. There are also reports of {{gamebreaking bug}}s and crashes (see PortingDisaster).
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* CriticalDissonance: Reception on the part of critics has been very positive, with [[EvenBetterSequel critics praising the game's story and characters, as well as improving the intense gameplay from]] ''[[EvenBetterSequel The New Order/The Old Blood]]''. Among fans, it's more [[ContestedSequel divisive]], with some agreeing with the critics, and others finding problems with the [[ItsShortSoItSucks game's length]] as well as some of the changes to the gameplay and the cutscene-to-gameplay ratio. There are also reports of {{gamebreaking bug}}s GameBreakingBug[=s=] and crashes (see PortingDisaster).
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** Apparently Machine Games couldn't be bothered with creating two versions of the end credit art, leaving non-Germans to wonder why the American rebels are shown striking out against a bunch of soldiers with weird triangle logos, instead of swastikas.
* OlderThanTheyThink: For anyone with an inkling of familiarity with the series (or the first person shooter genre, or video games in general), killing Nazis is not a new development in the slightest. That, however, has not stopped some from interpreting the game as a reference to the current political climate.
* OlderThanTheyThink: For anyone with an inkling of familiarity with the series (or the first person shooter genre, or video games in general), killing Nazis is not a new development in the slightest. That, however, has not stopped some from interpreting the game as a reference to the current political climate.
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** Apparently Machine Games couldn't be bothered with creating two versions of the end credit art, leaving non-Germans to wonder why the American rebels are shown striking out against a bunch of soldiers who are suddenly adorned with [[NoSwastikas weird triangle logos, logos instead of swastikas.
swastikas]].
** To some, Rip's villainy, though effective because of how down-to-earth it is compared to the crazy world-conquering Nazi superscience of the rest of the game, is hard to take seriously in part because Creator/GlennMorshower spewing racial epithets [[CrossesTheLineTwice just comes off as crudely hilarious]] rather than horrifying.
* OlderThanTheyThink: For anyone with an inkling of familiarity with the series (or the first person shooter genre, or video games in general), killing Nazis is not a new development in the slightest. That, however, has not stopped some from interpreting the game as a reference to thecurrent political climate.climate at the time of the game's release in late 2017, not even a full year into UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump's presidency.
** To some, Rip's villainy, though effective because of how down-to-earth it is compared to the crazy world-conquering Nazi superscience of the rest of the game, is hard to take seriously in part because Creator/GlennMorshower spewing racial epithets [[CrossesTheLineTwice just comes off as crudely hilarious]] rather than horrifying.
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** The PC version of the game exclusively uses Vulkan as the graphics API, preventing many older (as in pre-2016) graphic cards to even play the game because of the inconsistent Vulkan support on older graphic cards.
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** The PC version of the game exclusively uses Vulkan as the graphics API, preventing many older (as in pre-2016) graphic cards to from even play running the game because of the inconsistent Vulkan support on older graphic graphics cards.
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* ReplacementScrappy: Grace can be seen as this after taking over as the resistance's BigGood following [[spoiler:Caroline's death]]. She is also likely this towards LaResistance in-universe in contrast to their full respect for Caroline, as her attitude is seen as so obnoxious to some members of the resistance that when [[TakeThatScrappy Sigrun throttles her, no one appears to intervene, probably to teach her a lesson]].
* ScrappyMechanic: Annoying in that it's actually a vital part of shooter gameplay: ''player damage feedback.'' While the [[VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder previous game]] wasn't the most consistent or efficient with it either, in ''The New Colossus'' there's barely any indication that you've been taking damage beyond the blurring and some darkening of the screen edges. The result is that there could be an enemy behind you plugging you with a shotgun and you may not have a single idea he's doing that until you notice you're taking damage while no one in front is shooting. Considering the NintendoHard nature of the game, it's entirely possible and even extremely ''likely'' that you'll keel over dead and not have any idea what just killed you because two soldiers chewed through your health and armor out of view in seconds.
* ScrappyMechanic: Annoying in that it's actually a vital part of shooter gameplay: ''player damage feedback.'' While the [[VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder previous game]] wasn't the most consistent or efficient with it either, in ''The New Colossus'' there's barely any indication that you've been taking damage beyond the blurring and some darkening of the screen edges. The result is that there could be an enemy behind you plugging you with a shotgun and you may not have a single idea he's doing that until you notice you're taking damage while no one in front is shooting. Considering the NintendoHard nature of the game, it's entirely possible and even extremely ''likely'' that you'll keel over dead and not have any idea what just killed you because two soldiers chewed through your health and armor out of view in seconds.
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* ReplacementScrappy: Grace can be seen as this after taking over as the resistance's BigGood following [[spoiler:Caroline's death]]. She is also likely this towards LaResistance in-universe in contrast to their full respect for Caroline, as her attitude is seen as so obnoxious to some members of the resistance that when Sigrun, another in-universe Scrappy, has enough of everyone's disrespect and throttles Grace, [[TakeThatScrappy Sigrun throttles her, no one appears to intervene, probably to teach her a lesson]].
* ScrappyMechanic: Annoying in that it's actually a vital part of shooter gameplay: ''player damage feedback.'' While the [[VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder previous game]] wasn't the most consistent or efficient with it either, in ''The New Colossus'' there's barely any indication that you've been taking damage beyond the blurring and some darkening of the screen edges. The result is that there could be an enemy behind you plugging you with a shotgun and you may not have a single idea he's doing that until you notice you're taking damage while no one in front is shooting. Considering the NintendoHard nature of thegame, game - especially when you only have 50 health at maximum - it's entirely possible and even extremely ''likely'' that you'll keel over dead and not have any idea what just killed you because two soldiers chewed through your health and armor out of view in seconds.
* ScrappyMechanic: Annoying in that it's actually a vital part of shooter gameplay: ''player damage feedback.'' While the [[VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder previous game]] wasn't the most consistent or efficient with it either, in ''The New Colossus'' there's barely any indication that you've been taking damage beyond the blurring and some darkening of the screen edges. The result is that there could be an enemy behind you plugging you with a shotgun and you may not have a single idea he's doing that until you notice you're taking damage while no one in front is shooting. Considering the NintendoHard nature of the
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** When a woman named Adler flirts with a German officer, he returns her affections and praises her zeal for agreeing with Nazi ideals, until she makes a misguided remark about 'impure Austrians'. At which moment, he ''immediately'' turns on her. The lesson in this is twofold: Firstly, trying to cozy up to racists will make you a jackass. Secondly, trying to cozy up to racists ''will'' backfire when they inevitably turn on you for your inevitable misstep.
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** When a woman named Adler flirts with a German officer, he returns her affections and praises her zeal for agreeing with Nazi ideals, until she makes a misguided remark about 'impure Austrians'. At Austrians', at which moment, moment he ''immediately'' turns on her.her, because Hitler himself is Austrian. The lesson in this is twofold: Firstly, trying to cozy up to racists will make you a jackass. Secondly, trying to cozy up to racists ''will'' backfire when they inevitably turn on you for your inevitable misstep.misstep, because there's no consistency or sense in such misguided hatred.
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** In addition to the bit above regarding BJ's father, Rip's racism and the complacent attitude of many Americans to the Nazi occupation bring up the important fact that 20th century America still had grave problems of its own regarding bigotry even when it fought the Third Reich. This leads to the aesop of never being apathetic in times of injustice, especially when Grace points out that marginalized folk have and still fight for their rights on a daily basis. Oppression doesn't need jackbooted Nazis to be any less real.
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** In addition to the bit above regarding BJ's father, Rip's racism and the complacent attitude of many Americans to the Nazi occupation bring up the important fact that 20th century America still had grave problems of its own regarding bigotry even when it fought the Third Reich. This leads to the aesop of never being apathetic in times of injustice, especially when Grace points out that marginalized folk have fought and still fight for their rights on a daily basis. Oppression doesn't need jackbooted Nazis to be any less real.
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** Some fans were disappointed that after all the buildup throughout the game where BJ assembles a coalition of resistance fighters strong enough to fight against the Nazi occupation, [[spoiler:the game suddenly ends right as BJ announces the beginning of the Second American Revolution, and the fight to actually retake America is only alluded to in still shots during the credits.]]
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** Some fans were disappointed that after all the buildup throughout the game where BJ assembles a coalition of resistance fighters strong enough to fight against the Nazi occupation, [[spoiler:the game suddenly ends right as BJ announces the beginning of the Second American Revolution, and the fight to actually retake America is only alluded to in still shots during the credits.credits, with [[VideoGame/WolfensteinYoungblood the next game]] skipping ahead another twenty years.]]
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** Sigrun Engel, Frau Engel's daughter. Constantly abused by her mother for being obese, is forced to participate in a war she wants no part of, and is told to [[spoiler:execute Caroline]]. And she's only seventeen. No wonder she decided to pull a HeelFaceTurn.
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** Sigrun Engel, Frau Engel's daughter. Constantly abused by her mother for being obese, is forced to participate in a war she wants no part of, and is told to [[spoiler:execute Caroline]]. And she's only seventeen. No wonder she decided to pull a HeelFaceTurn. Worse, because she's related to Engel, when she does defect she spends most of the rest of the game getting constant shit thrown at her by the Kreisau Circle. [[spoiler:It's only after she finally has enough and strangles Grace that anyone backs off and starts treating her with any sort of respect.]]
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* EvilIsCool: Although Frau Engel is an ''extreme'' HateSink, she still has a large fanbase who thoroughly enjoy her character for Nina Franoszek's [[EvilIsHammy over-the-top]] performance, [[CreepyAwesome creepy yet still memorable scenes]] in both this game and its predecessor, and [[spoiler:she technically ''[[TheBadGuyWins succeeds]]'' in killing off the main character. If it weren't for Set's technology, she would be a full-on KarmaHoudini and [[NearVillainVictory the war would end in the Nazis' favor thanks to her]].]]
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* EvilIsCool: Although Frau Engel is an ''extreme'' HateSink, she still has a large fanbase who thoroughly enjoy her character for Nina Franoszek's [[EvilIsHammy over-the-top]] performance, [[CreepyAwesome creepy yet still memorable scenes]] in both this game and its predecessor, she's a BenevolentBoss, and [[spoiler:she technically ''[[TheBadGuyWins succeeds]]'' in killing off the main character. If it weren't for Set's technology, she would be a full-on KarmaHoudini and [[NearVillainVictory the war would end in the Nazis' favor thanks to her]].character.]]
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* EvilIsCool: Although Frau Engel is an ''extreme'' HateSink, she still has a large fanbase who thoroughly enjoy her character for Nina Franoszek's [[EvilIsHammy over-the-top]] performance, [[CreepyAwesome creepy yet still memorable scenes]] in both this game and its predecessor, and the fact that [[spoiler:she technically ''[[TheBadGuyWins succeeds]]'' in killing off the main character]].character. If it weren't for Set's technology, she would be a full-on KarmaHoudini and [[NearVillainVictory the war would end in the Nazis' favor thanks to her]].]]
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* EvilIsCool: Although Frau Engel is an ''extreme'' HateSink, she still has a large fanbase who thoroughly enjoy her character for Nina Franoszek's [[EvilIsHammy over-the-top]] performance, [[CreepyAwesome creepy yet still memorable scenes]] in both this game and its predecessor, and the fact that [[spoiler:she technically ''[[TheBadGuyWins succeeds]]'' in killing off the main character]].
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Rip Blazkowicz is getting this treatment. Several comments on Youtube and Reddit say that [[MisaimedFandom he was actually a good father who meant well and his abuse was just "tough love"]], judging from the scene where he gives B.J. a rifle and helps him confront his nightmares in the basement (which was clearly ''not'' out of altruism as Rip outright admitted that he was tired of his son waking him up every night with noise and giving him a beating didn't work before). [[SarcasmMode Yeah, nothing says "I love my family and want what's best for them" like]] [[spoiler:[[MoralEventHorizon forcing his child to kill his own dog or selling out his own wife...]]]]
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Rip Blazkowicz '''''Rip Blazkowicz''''' of all people is getting this treatment. Several comments on Youtube and Reddit say that [[MisaimedFandom he was actually a good father who meant well and his abuse was just "tough love"]], judging from the scene where he gives B.J. a rifle and helps him confront his nightmares in the basement (which was clearly ''not'' out of altruism as Rip outright admitted that he was tired of his son waking him up every night with noise and giving him a beating didn't work before). [[SarcasmMode Yeah, nothing says "I love my family and want what's best for them" like]] [[spoiler:[[MoralEventHorizon forcing his child to kill his own dog or selling out his own wife...]]]]
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* RealismInducedHorror: Rip Blazkowicz being so down-to-earth even within [[StupidJetpackHitler the game's setting]] is what makes him such a detestable character. Bigotry and domestic abuse were (and ''still are'' in some areas) disturbingly common in the real world. Also, [[spoiler:Rip [[TheQuisling selling out Zofia]] could even give off some [[https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Frank Anne Frank]] vibes.]]
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All Blue Entry and no need to shout.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: '''[[CompleteMonster Rip]] [[{{Jerkass}} Blazkowicz]]''' of all people Rip Blazkowicz is getting this treatment. Several comments on Youtube and Reddit say that [[MisaimedFandom he was actually a good father who meant well and his abuse was just "tough love"]], judging from the scene where he gives B.J. a rifle and helps him confront his nightmares in the basement (which was clearly ''not'' out of altruism as Rip outright admitted that he was tired of his son waking him up every night with noise and giving him a beating didn't work before). [[SarcasmMode Yeah, nothing says "I love my family and want what's best for them" like]] [[spoiler:[[MoralEventHorizon forcing his child to kill his own dog or selling out his own wife...]]]]
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* DracoInLeatherPants: '''[[CompleteMonster Rip]] [[{{Jerkass}} Blazkowicz]]''' of all people is getting this treatment. Several comments on Youtube and Reddit say that [[MisaimedFandom he was actually a good father who meant well and his abuse was just "tough love"]], judging from the scene where he gives B.J. a rifle and helps him confront his nightmares in the basement (which was clearly ''not'' out of altruism as Rip outright admitted that he was tired of his son waking him up every night with noise and giving him a beating didn't work before). [[spoiler:[[SarcasmMode [[SarcasmMode Yeah, nothing says "I love my family and want what's best for them" like killing like]] [[spoiler:[[MoralEventHorizon forcing his son's child to kill his own dog and or selling out his own Jewish wife to the Nazis...wife...]]]]
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* DracoInLeatherPants: '''[[CompleteMonster Rip]] [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk Blazkowicz]]''' of all people is getting this treatment. Several comments on Youtube and Reddit say that [[MisaimedFandom he was actually a good father who meant well and his abuse was just "tough love"]], judging from the scene where he gives B.J. a rifle and helps him confront his nightmares in the basement (which was clearly ''not'' out of altruism as Rip outright admitted that he was tired of his son waking him up every night with noise and giving him a beating didn't work before). [[spoiler:[[SarcasmMode Yeah, nothing says "I love my family and want what's best for them" like killing his son's dog and selling his own Jewish wife to the Nazis...]]]]
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* DracoInLeatherPants: '''[[CompleteMonster Rip]] [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk [[{{Jerkass}} Blazkowicz]]''' of all people is getting this treatment. Several comments on Youtube and Reddit say that [[MisaimedFandom he was actually a good father who meant well and his abuse was just "tough love"]], judging from the scene where he gives B.J. a rifle and helps him confront his nightmares in the basement (which was clearly ''not'' out of altruism as Rip outright admitted that he was tired of his son waking him up every night with noise and giving him a beating didn't work before). [[spoiler:[[SarcasmMode Yeah, nothing says "I love my family and want what's best for them" like killing his son's dog and selling his own Jewish wife to the Nazis...]]]]
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* BrokenBase: The story's treatment of [[spoiler: Rip, BJ's father]], has been the subject of debate. [[spoiler: Mainly, Rips horrible racism and selling of BJ's mother into a concentration camp seems wildly different from his characterization as a stern but caring father in BJ's monologues in ''The New Order''. Whether or not it qualifies as a {{Retcon}} is up for debate, but the main point of contention many have with the twist is not so much the content, but the fact that he's such a repentantly evil and abusive person that it's incredibly unlikely BJ would ever look up to him. This makes many of BJ's monologues in the first game about the lessons he learned from his parents seem nonsensical.]]
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* CompleteMonster: B.J.'s greedy, racist father, [[ArchnemesisDad Rip Blazkowicz]], married B.J.'s wealthy mother for money, then abused [[DomesticAbuse her]] and [[AbusiveParents B.J.]] out of anger at his own poor business decisions ruining his enterprise. Attacking B.J. for playing with a black girl, Rip knocks his wife, Zofia, out for trying to defend their son, then tries to make B.J. shoot his dog, Bessie. When America is conquered by the Nazis, Rip betrays his Jewish, black, and/or homosexual neighbors, ''and'' Zofia by [[LesCollaborateurs selling them out]], leading to their internment and death in [[PoWCamp concentration camps]] in New Mexico. Attempting to kill B.J. when they meet again, Rip also wiretaps their phone conversation in an attempt to have B.J. captured and executed by the Nazis.
** ''[[{{DLC}} The Freedom Chronicles]]'' Episode 1: ''The Adventures of Gunslinger Joe'': [[BigBad Übercommander Roderick Metze]] was a [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain white supremacist]] who became a [[DepravedDentist dentist]] for the thrill of torturing people legally. Happily joining the Nazis, Metze relished in a chance to lord over minorities, subjecting them to slavery and death. Taking an interest in sports, Metze abducted a number of athletes, torturing them in [[PlayingWithSyringes ghastly experiments]] to harvest their abilities for his own side. Metze also intends on activating a superweapon to annihilate the entire American Midwest, driven by [[AmbitionIsEvil his desire to rise ever higher]] in the ranks of the Reich.
** ''[[{{DLC}} The Freedom Chronicles]]'' Episode 1: ''The Adventures of Gunslinger Joe'': [[BigBad Übercommander Roderick Metze]] was a [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain white supremacist]] who became a [[DepravedDentist dentist]] for the thrill of torturing people legally. Happily joining the Nazis, Metze relished in a chance to lord over minorities, subjecting them to slavery and death. Taking an interest in sports, Metze abducted a number of athletes, torturing them in [[PlayingWithSyringes ghastly experiments]] to harvest their abilities for his own side. Metze also intends on activating a superweapon to annihilate the entire American Midwest, driven by [[AmbitionIsEvil his desire to rise ever higher]] in the ranks of the Reich.
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**B.J.'s greedy, racist father, [[ArchnemesisDad Rip Blazkowicz]], married B.J.'s wealthy mother for money, then abused [[DomesticAbuse her]] and [[AbusiveParents B.J.]] out of anger at his own poor business decisions ruining his enterprise. Attacking B.J. for playing with a black girl, Rip knocks his wife, Zofia, out for trying to defend their son, then tries to make B.J. shoot his dog, Bessie. When America is conquered by the Nazis, Rip betrays his Jewish, black, and/or homosexual neighbors, ''and'' Zofia by [[LesCollaborateurs selling them out]], leading to their internment and death in [[PoWCamp concentration camps]] in New Mexico. Attempting to kill B.J. when they meet again, Rip also wiretaps their phone conversation in an attempt to have B.J. captured and executed by the Nazis.
** ''[[{{DLC}} The FreedomChronicles]]'' Episode 1: ''The Chronicles]]: The Adventures of Gunslinger Joe'': [[BigBad Übercommander Roderick Metze]] was a [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain white supremacist]] who became a [[DepravedDentist dentist]] for the thrill of torturing people legally. Happily joining the Nazis, Metze relished in a chance to lord over minorities, subjecting them to slavery and death. Taking an interest in sports, Metze abducted a number of athletes, torturing them in [[PlayingWithSyringes ghastly experiments]] to harvest their abilities for his own side. Metze also intends on activating a superweapon to annihilate the entire American Midwest, driven by [[AmbitionIsEvil his desire to rise ever higher]] in the ranks of the Reich.
**B.J.'s greedy, racist father, [[ArchnemesisDad Rip Blazkowicz]], married B.J.'s wealthy mother for money, then abused [[DomesticAbuse her]] and [[AbusiveParents B.J.]] out of anger at his own poor business decisions ruining his enterprise. Attacking B.J. for playing with a black girl, Rip knocks his wife, Zofia, out for trying to defend their son, then tries to make B.J. shoot his dog, Bessie. When America is conquered by the Nazis, Rip betrays his Jewish, black, and/or homosexual neighbors, ''and'' Zofia by [[LesCollaborateurs selling them out]], leading to their internment and death in [[PoWCamp concentration camps]] in New Mexico. Attempting to kill B.J. when they meet again, Rip also wiretaps their phone conversation in an attempt to have B.J. captured and executed by the Nazis.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: '''[[CompleteMonster Rip]] [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk Blazkowicz]]''' of all people is getting this treatment. Several comments on Youtube and Reddit say that [[MisaimedFandom he was actually a good father who meant well and his abuse was just "tough love"]], judging from the scene where he gives B.J. a rifle and helps him confront his nightmares in the basement (which was clearly ''not'' out of altruism as Rip outright admitted that he was tired of his son waking him up every night with noise and giving him a beating didn't work before). [[spoiler:[[SarcasmMode Yeah, nothing says "I love my family and want what's best for them" like killing his son's dog and selling his own Jewish wife to the Nazis]]...]]
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* DracoInLeatherPants: '''[[CompleteMonster Rip]] [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk Blazkowicz]]''' of all people is getting this treatment. Several comments on Youtube and Reddit say that [[MisaimedFandom he was actually a good father who meant well and his abuse was just "tough love"]], judging from the scene where he gives B.J. a rifle and helps him confront his nightmares in the basement (which was clearly ''not'' out of altruism as Rip outright admitted that he was tired of his son waking him up every night with noise and giving him a beating didn't work before). [[spoiler:[[SarcasmMode Yeah, nothing says "I love my family and want what's best for them" like killing his son's dog and selling his own Jewish wife to the Nazis]]...]]Nazis...]]]]
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* DracoInLeatherPants: '''[[CompleteMonster Rip]] [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk Blazkowicz]]''' of all people is getting this treatment. Several comments on Youtube and Reddit say that [[MisaimedFandom he was actually a good father who meant well and his abuse was just "tough love", love"]], judging from the scene where he gives B.J. a rifle and helps him confront his nightmares in the basement (which was clearly ''not'' out of altruism as Rip outright admitted that he was tired of his son waking him up every night with noise and giving him a beating didn't work before). [[spoiler:[[SarcasmMode Yeah, nothing says "I love my family and want what's best for them" like killing his son's dog and selling his own Jewish wife to the Nazis]]...]]
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* GameBreaker: On easier difficulties, it is entirely possible to get through the entire game using nothing but the assault rifle. When first acquired it's unspectacular, but fully upgrading it turns it into a bone fide head-popping sniper rifle which has a higher ammo cap than the default SMG, and which shreds through armour like butter. It can even take down the heavier giant Mooks in only handful of shots. The necessary upgrade kits can be gathered within the Eva's Hammer itself.
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I'm not adding anything new to the entry, I'm just putting it here because the previous placing of the periods kinda bugs me...
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** B.J.'s greedy, racist father, [[ArchnemesisDad Rip Blazkowicz]], married B.J.'s wealthy mother for money, then abused [[DomesticAbuse her]] and [[AbusiveParents B.J.]] out of anger at his own poor business decisions ruining his enterprise. Attacking B.J. for playing with a black girl, Rip knocks his wife, Zofia, out for trying to defend their son, then tries to make B.J. shoot his dog, Bessie. When America is conquered by the Nazis, Rip betrays his Jewish, black, and/or homosexual neighbors, ''and'' Zofia by [[LesCollaborateurs selling them out]], leading to their internment and death in [[PoWCamp concentration camps]] in New Mexico. Attempting to kill B.J. when they meet again, Rip also wiretaps their phone conversation in an attempt to have B.J. captured and executed by the Nazis.
** B.J.'s greedy, racist father, [[ArchnemesisDad Rip Blazkowicz]], married B.J.'s wealthy mother for money, then abused [[DomesticAbuse her]] and [[AbusiveParents B.J.]] out of anger at his own poor business decisions ruining his enterprise. Attacking B.J. for playing with a black girl, Rip knocks his wife, Zofia, out for trying to defend their son, then tries to make B.J. shoot his dog, Bessie. When America is conquered by the Nazis, Rip betrays his Jewish, black, and/or homosexual neighbors, ''and'' Zofia by [[LesCollaborateurs selling them out]], leading to their internment and death in [[PoWCamp concentration camps]] in New Mexico. Attempting to kill B.J. when they meet again, Rip also wiretaps their phone conversation in an attempt to have B.J. captured and executed by the Nazis.
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**CompleteMonster: B.J.'s greedy, racist father, [[ArchnemesisDad Rip Blazkowicz]], married B.J.'s wealthy mother for money, then abused [[DomesticAbuse her]] and [[AbusiveParents B.J.]] out of anger at his own poor business decisions ruining his enterprise. Attacking B.J. for playing with a black girl, Rip knocks his wife, Zofia, out for trying to defend their son, then tries to make B.J. shoot his dog, Bessie. When America is conquered by the Nazis, Rip betrays his Jewish, black, and/or homosexual neighbors, ''and'' Zofia by [[LesCollaborateurs selling them out]], leading to their internment and death in [[PoWCamp concentration camps]] in New Mexico. Attempting to kill B.J. when they meet again, Rip also wiretaps their phone conversation in an attempt to have B.J. captured and executed by the Nazis.
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* TheWoobie: Sigrun Engel, Frau Engel's daughter. Constantly abused by her mother for being obese, is forced to participate in a war she wants no part of, and is told to [[spoiler:execute Caroline]]. And she's only seventeen. No wonder she decided to pull a HeelFaceTurn.
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** Sigrun Engel, Frau Engel's daughter. Constantly abused by her mother for being obese, is forced to participate in a war she wants no part of, and is told to [[spoiler:execute Caroline]]. And she's only seventeen. No wonder she decided to pull aHeelFaceTurn.HeelFaceTurn.
** Zofia Blazkowicz, BJ's mother. Trapped in an abusive marriage with [[CompleteMonster Rip]], heartbroken when her son ran off to join the army, and finally [[spoiler:exposed as a Jew by her own husband and sent to die in a Nazi extermination camp.]]
** Sigrun Engel, Frau Engel's daughter. Constantly abused by her mother for being obese, is forced to participate in a war she wants no part of, and is told to [[spoiler:execute Caroline]]. And she's only seventeen. No wonder she decided to pull a
** Zofia Blazkowicz, BJ's mother. Trapped in an abusive marriage with [[CompleteMonster Rip]], heartbroken when her son ran off to join the army, and finally [[spoiler:exposed as a Jew by her own husband and sent to die in a Nazi extermination camp.]]
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* DracoInLeatherPants: '''[[CompleteMonster Rip]] [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk Blazkowicz]]''' of all people is getting this treatment. Several comments on Youtube and Reddit say that he was actually a good father who meant well, well and his abuse was just "tough love", judging from the scene where he gives B.J. a rifle and helps him confront his nightmares in the basement (which was clearly ''not'' out of altruism as Rip outright admitted that he was tired of his son waking him up every night with noise and giving him a beating didn't work before). [[spoiler:[[SarcasmMode Yeah, nothing says "I love my family and want what's best for them" like killing his son's dog and selling his own Jewish wife to the Nazis]]...]]
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* IronWoobie: BJ Blazkowicz. Forced to watch many of his good friends die, stuck in a wheelchair (at first), and witnesses first hand how the American people have simply given up hope. And yet, he keeps on fighting, determined to make things better.
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* IronWoobie: BJ Blazkowicz. Forced Had a horrifically abusive childhood, forced to watch many of his good friends die, stuck in a wheelchair (at first), [[spoiler:discovers that his father sold out his mother to the Nazis,]] and witnesses first hand how the American people have simply given up hope. And yet, he keeps on fighting, determined to make things better.
