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** Remember back in [[VideoGame/Wolfenstein2009 Wolfenstein (2009)]] Deathshead told B.J. that "he wouldn't live to see the swastika flying proudly over Washington D.C."? After the events of "The New Order", Deathshead is dead, and this game shows the swastika draped over the Capitol.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: A number of right-wing groups have taken issue with the game, and its advertising campaign, after a Bethesda tweet to promote the game included the line "Make America Nazi-Free Again". Machine Games has clarified that the game itself is not reflective of the contemporary political climate, seeing as it had been in development years before Nazis had become a talking point.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: A number of right-wing groups have taken issue with the game, and its advertising campaign, after a Bethesda tweet to promote the game included the line "Make America Nazi-Free Again". Machine Games has clarified that the game itself is not reflective of the contemporary political climate, seeing as it had been in development years before Nazis had become a talking point. And that's even ignoring the fact that the voice of Deathshead, Creator/DwightSchultz, is himself a conservative.
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** Sure, it gets you [[NonStandardGameOver immediately killed]], but [[spoiler: kicking Adolf Hitler to death while he lays on the floor during the audition]] is ''incredibly'' satisfying.
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* CatharsisFactor: After seeing Frau Engel cause so many atrocities from both The New Order and this one, seeing her being slowly chopped off by BJ with an Axe while leaving her with a painful death in the ending is truly a satisfying moment to watch.
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* PortingDisaster: Upon the game's launch, the Steam page was flooded with negative reviews- not because the game was bad, mind, but because so many people were experiencing GameBreakingBug after GameBreakingBug with the game's actual launch. The game is somehow both a great PC port and a terrible one at the same time.
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* GeniusBonus: The Nazi antigravity experiments in Area 52 are clearly based on the conspiracy theory of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Glocke Die Glocke]]; there are a few signs with that name and the machine at the focal point of the complex has a bell shape.
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Tried to word this in a way that sounds a bit more applicable to real life than "people in the nazi empire aren't all nazis".


** The game also makes a point with [[spoiler: Sigrun]] that some individuals in the Nazi empire simply do not believe nor support their crusade, and yet they find themselves enlisted by them regardless due to circumstances that were out of their control.

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** The game also makes a point with [[spoiler: Sigrun]] that some individuals in the labeling someone a Nazi empire simply do not believe nor support their crusade, and yet when they find themselves enlisted by them regardless due to circumstances that were out don't deserve it is just as cruel and damaging as any other kind of their control.label.

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* MoralEventHorizon: If Frau Engel hadn't crossed it already, telling her daughter to [[spoiler:execute Caroline with an axe]] certainly counts.

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* MoralEventHorizon: If Frau Engel hadn't crossed it already, telling her daughter to [[spoiler:execute Caroline with an axe]] certainly counts. Then she goes the extra mile by [[spoiler: doing the deed herself when Sigrun refuses, and brings Caroline's decapitated head to BJ while having her head 'kiss him' to degrade the crippled hero. What's more, when Sigrun rightfully calls her mother out, Frau's response is to do the same to her daughter, but also ''presses Caroline's head against her daughter's privates'' to further embarrass her, and finally smacks her hard when Sigrun pushes her away in disgust]].


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** The game also makes a point with [[spoiler: Sigrun]] that some individuals in the Nazi empire simply do not believe nor support their crusade, and yet they find themselves enlisted by them regardless due to circumstances that were out of their control.
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* ThatOneAchievement: 'Mein leben', which requires you to beat the game on the eponymous difficulty setting, which is a single-life permadeath mode with no checkpoints or saves. In other words, you have to complete the game without dying in one sitting. Have fun!
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: This game does ''not'' shy away from showing how Nazi ideology corrupts everything and everyone who believes in it, and how collaborating with it is a product of selfishness and racism.
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** If Rip Blazkowicz didn't cross it when he [[spoiler: [[AbusiveParents knocks out his wife and chokes a young B.J. into unconsciousness]]]], he definitely does when he [[spoiler: [[KickTheDog tries to force B.J. to shoot his own dog, and shoots her himself if he refuses.]]]]

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** If Rip Blazkowicz didn't cross it when he [[spoiler: [[AbusiveParents knocks out his wife and chokes a young B.J. into unconsciousness]]]], he definitely does when he [[spoiler: [[KickTheDog tries to force B.J. to shoot his own dog, and shoots her himself if he refuses.]]]]]] And if that somehow doesn't work, there's also the revelation that he sent his wife to a concentration camp.]]
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** If Rip Blazkowicz didn't cross it when he [[spoiler: [[AbusiveParents knocks out his wife and chokes a young B.J. into unconsciousness]]]], he definitely does when he [[spoiler: [[KickTheDog tries to force B.J. to shoot his own dog, and shoots her himself if he refuses.]]]]
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* BloodierAndGorier: The axe executions in this game are much more graphic and bloodier than the knife executions in ''The New Order'', since they involve hacking limbs off as opposed to just stabbing or shanking. Enemies also bleed a bit more and their blood can even splatter over the player's weapons!
* DarkerAndEdgier: As if VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder wasn't dark and edgy enough in its depiction of a CrapsackWorld run by Nazis, ''The New Colossus'' seems to be pulling no punches in showing what the Nazis have done to America, from nuking New York to ethnic cleansing in New Orleans.
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* EvenBetterSequel: Reception has been very positive, with critics praising the game's story and characters, as well as the over-the-top gameplay from its predecessor.
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* BloodierAndGorier: The axe executions in this game are much more graphic and bloodier than the knife executions in ''The New Order'', since they involve hacking limbs off as opposed to just stabbing or shanking. Enemies also bleed a bit more and their blood can even splatter over the player's weapons!
* DarkerAndEdgier: As if VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder wasn't dark and edgy enough in its depiction of a CrapsackWorld run by Nazis, ''The New Colossus'' seems to be pulling no punches in showing what the Nazis have done to America, from nuking New York to ethnic cleansing in New Orleans.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: For anyone with an inkling of familiarity with the series (or the first person shooter genre), killing Nazis is not a new development in the slightest. That, however, has not stopped reactionaries from interpreting the game as a political attack.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: A number of right wing groups have taken issue with the game, and its advertising campaign, after a Bethesda tweet to promote the game included the line "Make America Nazi-Free Again". Machine Games has clarified that the game is not reflective of the contemporary political climate, seeing as it had been in development years before Nazis had become a talking point.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: For anyone with an inkling of familiarity with the series (or the first person shooter genre), killing Nazis is not a new development in the slightest. That, however, has not stopped reactionaries some from interpreting the game as a reference to the current political attack.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: A number of right wing right-wing groups have taken issue with the game, and its advertising campaign, after a Bethesda tweet to promote the game included the line "Make America Nazi-Free Again". Machine Games has clarified that the game itself is not reflective of the contemporary political climate, seeing as it had been in development years before Nazis had become a talking point.
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%% Please refrain from writing a CompleteMonster entry until November 10th (two weeks after the game's official release date). On or after this date, feel free to propose candidates to the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2899#72474 official CM Cleanup Thread]].
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: A number of right wing groups have taken issue with the game, and its advertising campaign, after a Bethesda tweet to promote the game included the line "Make America Nazi-Free Again".

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: A number of right wing groups have taken issue with the game, and its advertising campaign, after a Bethesda tweet to promote the game included the line "Make America Nazi-Free Again". Machine Games has clarified that the game is not reflective of the contemporary political climate, seeing as it had been in development years before Nazis had become a talking point.
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The Flame War page says no examples, and it's not even YMMV.


* FlameWar: Bethesda's marketing team began to release new ads for the game on Twitter with #NoMoreNazis attached to them. A number of people sympathetic to the Klan and Nazis began complaining about the premise of ''The New Colossus'' in replies to the ads, feeling that this game was dismissive of what they claimed were legitimate political views or even perpetration of some kind of "white genocide" by the devs. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Let's just say, thankfully, the majority of Twitter users were unsympathetic to their concerns.]]
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* WhatDoYoumeanitsNotPolitical: A number of right wing groups have taken issue with the game, and its advertising campaign, after a Bethesda tweet to promote the game included the line "Make America Nazi-Free Again".

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* WhatDoYoumeanitsNotPolitical: WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: A number of right wing groups have taken issue with the game, and its advertising campaign, after a Bethesda tweet to promote the game included the line "Make America Nazi-Free Again".
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* FlameWar: Bethesda's marketing team began to release new ads for the game on Twitter with #NoMoreNazis attached to them. A number of people sympathetic to the Klan and Nazis began complaining about the premise of The New Colossus in replies to the ads, feeling that this game was dismissive of what they claimed were legitimate political views or even perpetration of a "white genocide" by the devs. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Let's just say the majority of Twitter users were unsympathetic to their concerns.]]

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* FlameWar: Bethesda's marketing team began to release new ads for the game on Twitter with #NoMoreNazis attached to them. A number of people sympathetic to the Klan and Nazis began complaining about the premise of The ''The New Colossus Colossus'' in replies to the ads, feeling that this game was dismissive of what they claimed were legitimate political views or even perpetration of a some kind of "white genocide" by the devs. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Let's just say say, thankfully, the majority of Twitter users were unsympathetic to their concerns.]]
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* FlameWar: Bethesda's marketing team began to release new ads for the game on Twitter with #NoMoreNazis attached to them. A number of people sympathetic to the Klan and Nazis began complaining about the premise of The New Colossus in replies to the ads, feeling that this game was dismissive of what they claimed were legitimate political views or even perpetration of a "white genocide" by the devs. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Let's just say the majority of Twitter users were unsympathetic to their concerns.]]
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* OlderThanTheyThink: For anyone with an inkling of familiarity with the series (or the first person shooter genre), killing Nazis is not a new development in the slightest. That, however, has not stopped reactionaries from interpreting the game as a political attack.
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Not only has the game not been released yet, but re-adding a non-approved CM entry is unacceptable.


* CompleteMonster: Frau Engel. A ruthless sadist who is completely devoted to the Reich and wants revenge on BJ for [[spoiler:killing Bubi]] the previous game. In the opening mission, she is shown to be very abusive towards her daughter Sigrun, chewing her out for being overweight and keeping sweets in her room, read her diary without her consent, and told her to [[spoiler:decapitate Caroline]].
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* CompleteMonster: Frau Engel. A ruthless sadist who is completely devoted to the Reich and wants revenge on BJ for what he did in the previous game. In the opening mission, she is shown to be very abusive towards her daughter Sigrun, chewing her out for being overweight and keeping sweets in her room, read her diary without her consent, and told her to [[spoiler:decapitate Caroline]].

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* CompleteMonster: Frau Engel. A ruthless sadist who is completely devoted to the Reich and wants revenge on BJ for what he did in [[spoiler:killing Bubi]] the previous game. In the opening mission, she is shown to be very abusive towards her daughter Sigrun, chewing her out for being overweight and keeping sweets in her room, read her diary without her consent, and told her to [[spoiler:decapitate Caroline]].
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Not sure why this was deleted, but for now, there's nothing wrong with it. It's also very likely that there will be other characters in the game that will fit this.

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* CompleteMonster: Frau Engel. A ruthless sadist who is completely devoted to the Reich and wants revenge on BJ for what he did in the previous game. In the opening mission, she is shown to be very abusive towards her daughter Sigrun, chewing her out for being overweight and keeping sweets in her room, read her diary without her consent, and told her to [[spoiler:decapitate Caroline]].
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* CompleteMonster: Frau Engel. A ruthless sadist who is completely devoted to the Reich and wants revenge on BJ for what he did in the previous game. In the opening mission, she is shown to be very abusive towards her daughter Sigrun, chewing her out for being overweight and keeping sweets in her room, read her diary without her consent, and told her to [[spoiler:decapitate Caroline[[note]]though, at the time of this writing, it's not clear if she succeeded[[/note]]]].
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* HarsherInHindsight: That Nazis and the UsefulNotes/KuKluxKlan are seen collaborating in ''The New Colossus'' becomes more uneasy following the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally 2017 protests in Charlottesville, Virginia]].
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To be expanded on. I know the big spoiler there is hinted at in the trailers, but if it pans out that way, it'll certainly count as a spoiler.

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* CompleteMonster: Frau Engel. A ruthless sadist who is completely devoted to the Reich and wants revenge on BJ for what he did in the previous game. In the opening mission, she is shown to be very abusive towards her daughter Sigrun, chewing her out for being overweight and keeping sweets in her room, read her diary without her consent, and told her to [[spoiler:decapitate Caroline[[note]]though, at the time of this writing, it's not clear if she succeeded[[/note]]]].
* IronWoobie: BJ Blazkowicz. Forced to watch many of his good friends die, stuck in a wheelchair (at first), and witnesses first hand how the American people have simply given up hope. And yet, he keeps on fighting, determined to make things better.
* MoralEventHorizon: If Frau Engel hadn't crossed it already, telling her daughter to [[spoiler:execute Caroline with an axe]] certainly counts.
* TheWoobie: Sigrun Engel, Frau's daughter. Constantly abused by her mother for being obese, is forced to participate in a war she wants no part of, and is told to [[spoiler:execute Caroline]]. And she's only seventeen. No wonder she decided to pull a HeelFaceTurn.

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