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Wrong-way hindsight.


* HarsherInHindsight: Set up back in ''Challengers'', when Morinaga proudly declares to a friend that he's proven to Souichi that homosexuals aren't all rape-happy monsters. And then all this happens...
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Morinaga. In any other show, he would be a villain, and arguably crosses the MoralEventHorizon with the rape - 'helping' Souichi through the aphrodisiac was questionable and ignoring his multiple protests and showing a lack of awareness for Souichi's feelings and objections was wrong. He also engages in a healthy dose of UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming the morning after.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Morinaga. In any other show, he would be a villain, and arguably crosses the MoralEventHorizon with the rape - He rapes Souichi, 'helping' Souichi him through the aphrodisiac was questionable aphrodisiac, and him ignoring his Souichi's multiple protests and showing a lack of awareness for Souichi's his feelings and objections was wrong.makes it even worse. He also engages in a healthy dose of UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming the morning after.
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* JerkassWoobie: Morinaga. While one can sympathize with him for harboring an unrequited crush on Souichi for more than five years, he also raped Souichi and blackmailed him into staying with him.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Morinaga. In any other show, he would be a villain, and arguably crosses the MoralEventHorizon with the rape - 'helping' Souichi through the aphrodisiac was questionable, but ignoring his multiple protests and showing a creepy lack of awareness for Souichi's feelings and objections and looking at him like an object of lust is just downright villainous. It doesn't help that the OVA has him engage in a healthy dose of UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming the morning after.

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* JerkassWoobie: Morinaga. While one can sympathize with him for harboring an unrequited crush on Souichi for more than five years, he also raped Souichi and blackmailed him into staying with him.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Morinaga. In any other show, he would be a villain, and arguably crosses the MoralEventHorizon with the rape - 'helping' Souichi through the aphrodisiac was questionable, but questionable and ignoring his multiple protests and showing a creepy lack of awareness for Souichi's feelings and objections and looking at him like an object of lust is just downright villainous. It doesn't help that the OVA has him engage was wrong. He also engages in a healthy dose of UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming the morning after.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Set up back in ''Challengers'', when Morinaga proudly declares to a friend that he's proven to Souichi that homosexuals aren't all rape-happy monsters. And then all this happens...

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: HarsherInHindsight: Set up back in ''Challengers'', when Morinaga proudly declares to a friend that he's proven to Souichi that homosexuals aren't all rape-happy monsters. And then all this happens...
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Morinaga. In any other show, he would be a villain, and arguably crosses the MoralEventHorizon with the rape - 'helping' Souichi through the aphrodisiac was questionable, but ignoring his multiple protests and showing a creepy lack of awareness for Souichi's feelings and objections and looking at him like an object of lust is just downright villainous. It doesn't help that the OVA has him engage in a healthy dose of VictimBlaming the morning after.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Morinaga. In any other show, he would be a villain, and arguably crosses the MoralEventHorizon with the rape - 'helping' Souichi through the aphrodisiac was questionable, but ignoring his multiple protests and showing a creepy lack of awareness for Souichi's feelings and objections and looking at him like an object of lust is just downright villainous. It doesn't help that the OVA has him engage in a healthy dose of VictimBlaming UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming the morning after.
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Not YMMV


* BastardBoyfriend: Morinaga. It's hard not to feel sorry for him at first, but that he deals with his five-year infatuation by firstly raping Souichi, then vanishing when Souichi is (understandably) angry with him afterward, ''then'' blackmailing him by threatening to walk out for good if Souichi - who feels responsible for him as his supervisor - doesn't agree to let him rape him again? Can make it a ''little'' harder to ''carry on'' sympathizing with him.
** On the other hand, the reason Morinaga disappears in the first place is because Souichi tells him quite explicitly he never wants to see his face again, it's Souichi who first brings up the notion of blackmail, and he clearly wants Morinaga to stay for personal reasons rather than simply his responsibility as supervisor. And aside from that, Souichi himself ticks plenty of [[BespectacledBastardBoyfriend (Bespectacled)]] BastardBoyfriend boxes, too: He is nothing but rude to Morinaga, completely bosses him around (he is the titular tyrant after all), threatens to kill Morinaga with a broken bottle, punches him in the face on multiple occasions, at least once ''actually puts a knife to his throat,'' [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and he drinks and smokes.]] In fact, if you didn't see any of the love scenes you might assume that Souichi is the irascible bastard seme and Morinaga the DoggedNiceGuy uke who is inexplicably devoted to him. YMMV indeed.
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* UnfortunateImplications: Some handwaving to the early rape is given later on, with Souichi implying that he didn't see it as rape since he would have tried to kill Morinaga if he hadn't wanted it. However, Morinaga did not know this at the time, clearly disregarded Souichi telling him 'no' multiple times, and a lot of his dialogue is stereotypical rapist fare. This is supposed to remove the last obstacle to their relationship and presumably absolve Morinaga, but it doesn't change the fact that Morinaga didn't know Souichi didn't see it as rape at the time, implying that a character who says no doesn't mean it and is just being a typical Tsundere.
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* Unfortunate Implications: Some handwaving to the early rape is given later on, with Souichi implying that he didn't see it as rape since he would have tried to kill Morinaga if he hadn't wanted it. However, Morinaga did not know this at the time, clearly disregarded Souichi telling him 'no' multiple times, and a lot of his dialogue is stereotypical rapist fare. This is supposed to remove the last obstacle to their relationship and presumably absolve Morinaga, but it doesn't change the fact that Morinaga didn't know Souichi didn't see it as rape at the time, implying that a character who says no doesn't mean it and is just being a typical Tsundere.
* Unintentionally Unsympathetic: Morinaga. In any other show, he would be a villain, and arguably crosses the MoralEventHorizon with the rape - 'helping' Souichi through the aphrodisiac was questionable, but ignoring his multiple protests and showing a creepy lack of awareness for Souichi's feelings and objections and looking at him like an object of lust is just downright villainous. It doesn't help that the OVA has him engage in a healthy dose of VictimBlaming the morning after.

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* Unfortunate Implications: UnfortunateImplications: Some handwaving to the early rape is given later on, with Souichi implying that he didn't see it as rape since he would have tried to kill Morinaga if he hadn't wanted it. However, Morinaga did not know this at the time, clearly disregarded Souichi telling him 'no' multiple times, and a lot of his dialogue is stereotypical rapist fare. This is supposed to remove the last obstacle to their relationship and presumably absolve Morinaga, but it doesn't change the fact that Morinaga didn't know Souichi didn't see it as rape at the time, implying that a character who says no doesn't mean it and is just being a typical Tsundere.
* Unintentionally Unsympathetic: UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Morinaga. In any other show, he would be a villain, and arguably crosses the MoralEventHorizon with the rape - 'helping' Souichi through the aphrodisiac was questionable, but ignoring his multiple protests and showing a creepy lack of awareness for Souichi's feelings and objections and looking at him like an object of lust is just downright villainous. It doesn't help that the OVA has him engage in a healthy dose of VictimBlaming the morning after.
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* Unfortunate Implications: Some handwaving to the early rape is given later on, with Souichi implying that he didn't see it as rape since he would have tried to kill Morinaga if he hadn't wanted it. However, Morinaga did not know this at the time, clearly disregarded Souichi telling him 'no' multiple times, and a lot of his dialogue is stereotypical rapist fare. This is supposed to remove the last obstacle to their relationship and presumably absolve Morinaga, but it doesn't change the fact that Morinaga didn't know Souichi didn't see it as rape at the time, implying that a character who says no doesn't mean it and is just being a typical Tsundere.
* Unintentionally Unsympathetic: Morinaga. In any other show, he would be a villain, and arguably crosses the MoralEventHorizon with the rape - 'helping' Souichi through the aphrodisiac was questionable, but ignoring his multiple protests and showing a creepy lack of awareness for Souichi's feelings and objections and looking at him like an object of lust is just downright villainous. It doesn't help that the OVA has him engage in a healthy dose of VictimBlaming the morning after.
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* TheWoobie: Morinaga. Poor guy, loved Souichi for 5 years+, and more now, and still not getting his love returned. He's happy at the tiniest things, it's kind of sad.

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* TheWoobie: JerkassWoobie: Morinaga. Poor guy, loved While one can sympathize with him for harboring an unrequited crush on Souichi for 5 years+, and more now, than five years, he also raped Souichi and still not getting his love returned. He's happy at the tiniest things, it's kind of sad.blackmailed him into staying with him.
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* UnfortunateImplications: The relationship between Kunihiro and Masaki. Despite the fact that [[spoiler: Masaki kidnaps Kunihiro and violently rapes him]], the reader is suppose to feel sympathy for ''Masaki'' and Kunihiro is suppose to look like the bad guy. And the [[spoiler: rape itself]] comes off as ''justified'' because Kunihiro had been homophobic as a teenager and had been ignorant of Masaki's feelings.
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** On the other hand, the reason Morinaga disappears in the first place is because Souichi tells him quite explicitly he never wants to see his face again, it's Souichi who first brings up the notion of blackmail, and he clearly wants Morinaga to stay for personal reasons rather than simply his responsibility as supervisor. And aside from that, Souichi himself ticks plenty of [[BespectacledBastardBoyfriend (Bespectacled)]] BastardBoyfriend boxes, too: He is nothing but rude to Morinaga, completely bosses him around (he is the titular tyrant after all), threatens to kill Morinaga with a broken bottle, punches him in the face on multiple occasions, at least once ''actually puts a knife to his throat,'' [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and he drinks and smokes.]] In fact, if you didn't see any of the love scenes you might assume that Souichi is the irascible bastard seme and Morinaga the DoggedNiceGuy uke who is inexplicably devoted to him. YMMV indeed.
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* BastardBoyfriend: Arguably Morinaga. It's hard not to feel sorry for him at first, but that he deals with his five-year infatuation by firstly raping Souichi, then vanishing when Souichi is (understandably) angry with him afterward, ''then'' blackmailing him by threatening to walk out for good if Souichi - who feels responsible for him as his supervisor - doesn't agree to let him rape him again? Can make it a ''little'' harder to ''carry on'' sympathizing with him.

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* BastardBoyfriend: Arguably Morinaga. It's hard not to feel sorry for him at first, but that he deals with his five-year infatuation by firstly raping Souichi, then vanishing when Souichi is (understandably) angry with him afterward, ''then'' blackmailing him by threatening to walk out for good if Souichi - who feels responsible for him as his supervisor - doesn't agree to let him rape him again? Can make it a ''little'' harder to ''carry on'' sympathizing with him.
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* BastardBoyfriend: Arguably Morinaga. It's hard not to feel sorry for him at first, but that he deals with his five-year infatuation by firstly raping Souichi, then vanishing when Souichi is (understandably) angry with him afterward, ''then'' blackmailing him by threatening to walk out for good if Souichi - who feels responsible for him as his supervisor - doesn't agree to let him rape him again? Can make it a ''little'' harder to ''carry on'' sympathizing with him.
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* UnfortunateImplications: The relationship between Kunihiro and Masaki. Despite the fact that [[spoiler: Masaki kidnaps Kunihiro and violently rapes him]], the reader is suppose to feel sympathy for ''Masaki'' and Kunihiro is suppose to look like the bad guy. And the [[spoiler: rape itself]] comes off as ''justified'' because Kunihiro had been homophobic as a teenager and had been ignorant of Masaki's feelings.

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