History YMMV / TheTwilightSaga

* OffscreenMomentOfAwesome:
** Rosalie's brief summary of how she went ''Film/KillBill'' on the people who gang-raped her could have made a very interesting book or movie, but sadly all the best and bloodiest parts are left out when she recounts it - in all of three paragraphs - to Bella. For those who haven't read it, she puts on a wedding dress and kills all of the men one by one, saving her former fiancé, who is behind a barricaded door and protected by two guards, for last. It's easily one of the most interesting parts of ''Eclipse'', and it's not even described.
** In ''Twilight'', we don't see James getting killed because ''Bella passes out just as it starts to happen''!
** In both ''Eclipse'' and ''The Short Second Life of Bree Tanner'', we miss the entire battle between the Cullens and wolves and the newborn army. This is especially silly in Bree Tanner's novella, given that ''she'' is a newborn and thus ''should have been at the battle herself''.
** For antis, Leah [[WhatTheHellHero calling out Bella for stringing Jacob along]] in ''Breaking Dawn''. Sadly, since the section's from Jacob's point of view it's only mentioned.

* VindicatedByHistory: A [[DownplayedTrope mild]] example. After the hype died down and the years went by, several pop culture analysts have been taking a closer look into ''Twilight'''s [[https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/nov/02/ten-years-of-twilight-the-extraordinary-feminist-legacy-of-the-panned-vampire-saga impact and place in pop culture]]. While many agreed that its quality overall was [[SoOkayItsAverage so-so]] and its messages are questionable at best, the series has earned praise for being a (relatively speaking) nerdy blockbuster franchise that girls (a demographic that was usually passed over) could claim for themselves in a time when that kind of entertainment was still largely male-aimed and male-dominated. Some even credit the series' massive financial success for helping the growing power of women in the entertainment industry and push for greater inclusion and representation for women in entertainment and paving the way for more female-centered blockbuster franchises (notably ''The Hunger Games'' series, the ''Wonder Woman'' movie, and others) to be made after years of executives being convinced that female-led films (superheroine films especially) wouldn't sell well.\\

** In general, while it's still nowhere near as popular as it used to be, some have applied this trope to the series as a whole, noting that, at its height, the backlash in the early '10s was often laced with misogyny from both young men who felt that the books' fans were invading "their" geek spaces and young women who [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses didn't want to be associated with "girly" things]]. The general consensus among women who were fans of the books and films when they were younger seems to be "they're trash, but they're our trash." Both Creator/LindsayEllis, WebVideo/{{Contrapoints}}, and WebVideo/SarahZ have [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O06tMbIKh0 made]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4QEFLhlh-Y videos]] on how the anti-''Twilight'' backlash eventually came in for counter-backlash itself. Even today, you'll find plenty of people who still remember it fondly, find things to praise even with its faults, and it still gets brought up in popular media now and then, proving that, for better or worse, the franchise has left its mark on pop culture.
** To a lesser extent, some antis have a tendency to go on and on about how ''Twilight'' allegedly "ruined vampires". Whilst ''Twilight'' did end up with [[GenrePopularizer a glut]] [[OnceOriginalNowCommon of]] [[FollowTheLeader imitators]] of varying quality, there were and still are vampire-themed works being made that have been quite well-received and feature a wide variety of stories and portrayals of vampires (as opposed to just romances aimed at teens). Regardless of your opinion of ''Twilight'', its popularity also actually helped revitalise interest in older works in the vampire genre, such as ''Literature/TheVampireDiaries'' and several others. Therefore, it's probably safe to say that ''Twilight'' hasn't "ruined vampires forever".

In addition to that, many of those aforementioned analysts (including Creator/LindsayEllis and WebVideo/SarahZ) have also noted that many of the criticisms aimed at the series during its heyday were laced with shocking amounts of [[GirlShowGhetto blatant misogyny]] and homophobia and the series' renaissance being a direct rejection of that mentality. Others still feel ''Twilight'' is flawed and problematic, but now widely agree that simply being aimed at teen girls or emphasizing romance over horror aren't a valid or thoughtful criticisms (and that mocking fans just for liking the series isn't okay).

** In general, while it's still nowhere near as popular as it used to be, some have applied this trope to the series as a whole, noting that, at its height, the backlash in the early '10s was often laced with misogyny from both young men who felt that the books' fans were invading "their" geek spaces and young women who [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses didn't want to be associated with "girly" things]]. The general consensus among women who were fans of the books and films when they were younger seems to be "they're trash, but they're our trash." Both Creator/LindsayEllis and WebVideo/SarahZ have [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O06tMbIKh0 made]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4QEFLhlh-Y videos]] on how the anti-''Twilight'' backlash eventually came in for counter-backlash itself. Even today, you'll find plenty of people who still remember it fondly, find things to praise even with its faults, and it still gets brought up in popular media now and then, proving that, for better or worse, the franchise has left its mark on pop culture.

* CondemnedByHistory: ''The Twilight Saga'' is an interesting example of this trope. While it ''always'' had a huge horde of haters, it was nonetheless one of the most popular and successful franchises of the 2000s and early '10s, especially amongst its target audience of adolescent and teenage girls thanks to it being a ParanormalRomance featuring two [[PrettyBoy attractive male characters]] (a vampire and werewolf specifically) fighting over a GirlNextDoor who was written in [[VanillaProtagonist such a manner]] that readers could easily step into her shoes. The movies certainly helped the series' popularity by doubling down on the [[BestKnownForTheFanservice fanservice-y parts]] of the books. However, once the big "''Twilight'' craze" finally died down, [[FleetingDemographic its demographic grew up]] and gained a better understanding of how relationships work, and views on topics like consent and sexual harassment became hot-button issues, many fans began to look back at the series and find ''major'' problems with it. The heroine's relationships with both of her love interests came across in hindsight as extremely toxic, uncomfortable, and even creepy to the point of verging on RomanticizedAbuse, arguably setting a bad example for its target demographic. What's more, beyond the budding romance, many former fans came to regard the writing as bland and [[{{Narm}} unintentionally hilarious]], resulting in many of them turning on the series and joining the haters. Finally, the series also attracted criticism for its questionable depiction of the Quileute people, an actual UsefulNotes/{{Native American|s}} ethnic group from the state of Washington who were not only [[InjunCountry heavily stereotyped]] in the series but didn't see any profit from the CashCowFranchise. Nowadays, one would be hard-pressed to find many people who will admit in public to openly, unironically liking the series. While the books and films did come in for a minor reappraisal over time out of a belief that [[CriticalBacklash the backlash was overblown]], even many of their defenders will still describe them as SoBadItsGood rather than ''genuinely'' good and admit that their critics had good points. About the most positive thing people are willing to say about the series is that it catered to a female demographic at a time when the entertainment industry was mostly male-dominated and inspired other, better YoungAdultLiterature series such as ''Literature/TheHungerGames''.