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* HarsherInHindsight: One HilariousInFlashback moment has a teenage Homer scoff at the idea of working at the Power Plant, in spite of him working there in the present. However, the later [[WholeEpisodeFlashback flashback episode]] "And Maggie Makes Three" would reveal that Homer absolutely ''hates'' working there, only does it to make ends meet, and quits his job as soon as he's feasible able to, before having no choice but to return there after his financial plans go belly up.


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** One gag has Marge assume that the word "housewife" means "a woman who is [[CargoShip married to a house]]". Enter 2012, when [[https://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/seattle-woman-marries-building-protest-demolition-224250710.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHfQigiSrrYi9vGoUZl-OWfDrtALMWZbMjvvz91MWLkbjG5xtAgJVEpAkYw0vyoa4snzMEiKR1Hiv8Rbff-TD53B0rCmXXYJca7XZWzJCfuKLVzS3eEWPFruJWqKdRM_b8TP2eCtM8eFU3-d7PKDFyqgV4ePAB8GWMnp8TbO-KDI a woman got married to a building]].
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** When Lisa asks about how Homer proposed to Marge, the two guiltily flash back to the moment they found out that Marge was pregnant with Bart, and Marge says she'd rather tell Lisa the story of how they first met. The following season's "I Married Marge" reveals the full story surrounding that moment, including Homer's ''actual'' proposal, which, despite what this episode implies, was extremely loving and heartfelt.

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** When Lisa asks about how Homer proposed to Marge, the two guiltily flash back to [[ShotgunWedding the moment they found out that Marge was pregnant with Bart, Bart]], and Marge says she'd rather tell Lisa the story of how they first met. The following season's "I Married Marge" reveals the full story surrounding that moment, including Homer's ''actual'' proposal, which, despite what this episode implies, was extremely loving and heartfelt.
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** [[BrokenBase If you're a fan of the post-classic seasons]], Homer's LoveAtFirstSight moment with Marge manages to take on even more sweetness after Season 15's "The Way We Weren't," which reveals that the two unwittingly [[ForgottenFirstMeeting met when they were much younger and shared their first kiss]], not recognizing each other due to a series of ContrivedCoincidence circumstances that meant they looked different at the time (Homer was wearing an eyepatch due to an injury and Marge was a brunette), together with Homer giving himself a [[AwesomeMcCoolName cool-sounding alias]] in an effort to impress her. The two of them never forgot their encounter and each regarded the other as their FirstLove. Given this context, does Homer have the strong reaction he does because he's subconsciously recognizing the girl who's been in his heart all this time?

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** [[BrokenBase If you're a fan of the post-classic post-'90s seasons]], Homer's LoveAtFirstSight moment with Marge manages to take on even more sweetness after Season 15's "The Way We Weren't," which reveals that the two unwittingly [[ForgottenFirstMeeting met when they were much younger and shared their first kiss]], not recognizing each other due to a series of ContrivedCoincidence circumstances that meant they looked different at the time (Homer was wearing an eyepatch due to an injury and Marge was a brunette), together with Homer giving himself a [[AwesomeMcCoolName cool-sounding alias]] in an effort to impress her. The two of them never forgot their encounter and each regarded the other as their FirstLove. Given this context, does Homer have the strong reaction he does because he's subconsciously recognizing the girl who's been in his heart all this time?
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** When Lisa asks about how Homer proposed to Marge, the two guiltily flash back to the moment they found out that Marge was pregnant with Bart, and Marge says she'd rather tell Lisa the story of how they first met. The following season's "I Married Marge" reveals the full story surrounding that moment, including Homer's actual proposal, which, despite what this episode implies, was extremely loving and heartfelt.

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** When Lisa asks about how Homer proposed to Marge, the two guiltily flash back to the moment they found out that Marge was pregnant with Bart, and Marge says she'd rather tell Lisa the story of how they first met. The following season's "I Married Marge" reveals the full story surrounding that moment, including Homer's actual ''actual'' proposal, which, despite what this episode implies, was extremely loving and heartfelt.

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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: [[BrokenBase If you're a fan of the post-classic seasons]], Homer's LoveAtFirstSight moment with Marge manages to take on even more sweetness after Season 15's "The Way We Weren't," which reveals that the two unwittingly [[ForgottenFirstMeeting met when they were much younger and shared their first kiss]], not recognizing each other due to a series of ContrivedCoincidence circumstances that meant they looked different at the time (Homer was wearing an eyepatch due to an injury and Marge was a brunette), together with Homer giving himself a [[AwesomeMcCoolName cool-sounding alias]] in an effort to impress her. The two of them never forgot their encounter and each regarded the other as their FirstLove. Given this context, does Homer have the strong reaction he does because he's subconsciously recognizing the girl who's been in his heart all this time?
-->'''Barney:''' Hey, who's that?
-->'''Homer:''' I...I don't know!

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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: HeartwarmingInHindsight:
** When Lisa asks about how Homer proposed to Marge, the two guiltily flash back to the moment they found out that Marge was pregnant with Bart, and Marge says she'd rather tell Lisa the story of how they first met. The following season's "I Married Marge" reveals the full story surrounding that moment, including Homer's actual proposal, which, despite what this episode implies, was extremely loving and heartfelt.
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[[BrokenBase If you're a fan of the post-classic seasons]], Homer's LoveAtFirstSight moment with Marge manages to take on even more sweetness after Season 15's "The Way We Weren't," which reveals that the two unwittingly [[ForgottenFirstMeeting met when they were much younger and shared their first kiss]], not recognizing each other due to a series of ContrivedCoincidence circumstances that meant they looked different at the time (Homer was wearing an eyepatch due to an injury and Marge was a brunette), together with Homer giving himself a [[AwesomeMcCoolName cool-sounding alias]] in an effort to impress her. The two of them never forgot their encounter and each regarded the other as their FirstLove. Given this context, does Homer have the strong reaction he does because he's subconsciously recognizing the girl who's been in his heart all this time?
-->'''Barney:''' --->'''Barney:''' Hey, who's that?
-->'''Homer:''' --->'''Homer:''' I...I don't know!
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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: [[BrokenBase If you're a fan of the post-classic seasons]], Homer's LoveAtFirstSight moment with Marge manages to take on even more sweetness after Season 15's "The Way We Weren't," which reveals that the two unwittingly [[ForgottenFirstMeeting met when they were much younger and shared their first kiss]], not recognizing each other due to a series of ContrivedCoincidence circumstances that meant they looked different at the time (Homer was wearing an eyepatch due to an injury and Marge was a brunette), together with Homer giving himself a [[AwesomeMcCoolName cool-sounding alias]] in an effort to impress her. The two of them never forgot their encounter and each regarded the other as their FirstLove. Given this context, does Homer have the strong reaction he does because he's subconsciously recognizing the girl who's been in his heart all this time?
-->'''Barney:''' Hey, who's that?
-->'''Homer:''' I...I don't know!
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: After "Mother Simpson" reveals what happened to Homer's mother, Abe's advice to Homer -- "Don't overreach" -- may be genuine advice (albeit harshly worded) to spare Homer future heartbreak, as it could be based on Abe's own experience with having a wife who outshines him.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: After "Mother Simpson" "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS7E8MotherSimpson Mother Simpson]]" reveals what happened to Homer's mother, Abe's advice to Homer -- "Don't overreach" -- may be genuine advice (albeit harshly worded) to spare Homer future heartbreak, as it could be based on Abe's own experience with having a wife who outshines him.



** Young Homer decides to skip his English class, saying "English, who needs that? I'm never going to England!". In season 15's "The Regina Monologues", Homer does travel to England.

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** Young Homer decides to skip his English class, saying "English, who needs that? I'm never going to England!". In season 15's "The "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS15E4TheReginaMonologues The Regina Monologues", Monologues]]", Homer does travel to England.



* NightmareFuel: Artie Ziff almost molests Marge in her car. To make matters worse, he nonchalantly asks her not to tell anybody about the incident because [[ItsAllAboutMe he didn't want his reputation ruined]]. Considering the time period and how he impressed Marge's family, Artie's secretly predatory behavior comes across as terrifying to any victim of sexual assault.
* ValuesResonance: As mentioned in NightmareFuel, Artie's assault of Marge was well before the awareness built around date rape and the #[=MeToo=] movement encouraged women to talk about their experiences surrounding sexual assault, harassment, rape, and casual misogyny. The fact that both a 1970s teenage Marge fought back for her dignity and that Artie's behavior was depicted as BitchInSheepsClothing was amazing for a TV show in the early 90s.

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* NightmareFuel: Artie Ziff almost molests Marge in her car. To make matters worse, he nonchalantly asks her not to tell anybody about the incident because [[ItsAllAboutMe he didn't want his reputation ruined]]. Considering the time period and how he impressed Marge's family, Artie's secretly predatory behavior comes across as terrifying to any victim of sexual assault.
* ValuesResonance: As mentioned in NightmareFuel, Artie's assault of Marge was well before the awareness built around date rape and the #[=MeToo=] movement encouraged women to talk about their experiences surrounding sexual assault, harassment, rape, and casual misogyny. The fact that both a 1970s teenage Marge fought back for her dignity and that Artie's behavior was depicted as BitchInSheepsClothing was amazing for a TV show in the early 90s.90s.
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* ValuesResonance: As mentioned in NightmareFuel, Artie's assault of Marge was well before the awareness built around date rape and the #MeToo movement encouraged women to talk about their experiences surrounding sexual assault, harassment, rape, and casual misogyny. The fact that both a 1970s teenage Marge fought back for her dignity and that Artie's behavior was depicted as BitchInSheepsClothing was amazing for a TV show in the early 90s.

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* ValuesResonance: As mentioned in NightmareFuel, Artie's assault of Marge was well before the awareness built around date rape and the #MeToo #[=MeToo=] movement encouraged women to talk about their experiences surrounding sexual assault, harassment, rape, and casual misogyny. The fact that both a 1970s teenage Marge fought back for her dignity and that Artie's behavior was depicted as BitchInSheepsClothing was amazing for a TV show in the early 90s.
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* NightmareFuel: Artie Ziff almost molests Marge in her car. To make matters worse, he nonchalantly asks her not to tell anybody about the incident because [[ItsAllAboutMe he didn't want his reputation ruined]]. Considering the time period and how he impressed Marge's family, Artie's secretly predatory behavior comes across as terrifying to any victim of sexual assault.

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* NightmareFuel: Artie Ziff almost molests Marge in her car. To make matters worse, he nonchalantly asks her not to tell anybody about the incident because [[ItsAllAboutMe he didn't want his reputation ruined]]. Considering the time period and how he impressed Marge's family, Artie's secretly predatory behavior comes across as terrifying to any victim of sexual assault.assault.
* ValuesResonance: As mentioned in NightmareFuel, Artie's assault of Marge was well before the awareness built around date rape and the #MeToo movement encouraged women to talk about their experiences surrounding sexual assault, harassment, rape, and casual misogyny. The fact that both a 1970s teenage Marge fought back for her dignity and that Artie's behavior was depicted as BitchInSheepsClothing was amazing for a TV show in the early 90s.
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* NightmareFuel: Artie Ziff almost molests Marge in her car. To make matters worse, he nonchalantly asks her not to tell anybody about the incident.

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* NightmareFuel: Artie Ziff almost molests Marge in her car. To make matters worse, he nonchalantly asks her not to tell anybody about the incident.incident because [[ItsAllAboutMe he didn't want his reputation ruined]]. Considering the time period and how he impressed Marge's family, Artie's secretly predatory behavior comes across as terrifying to any victim of sexual assault.
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** Also, there's the plot point where Homer pretends to need a tutor as a way to set up a relationship between him and Marge. Thirteen years later, Cady does the same thing in the movie ''Film/MeanGirls''.

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** Also, there's the plot point where Homer pretends to need a tutor as a way to set up a relationship between him and Marge. Thirteen years later, Cady does the same thing in the movie ''Film/MeanGirls''.''Film/MeanGirls''.
* NightmareFuel: Artie Ziff almost molests Marge in her car. To make matters worse, he nonchalantly asks her not to tell anybody about the incident.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: After "Mother Simpson" reveals what happened to Homer's mother, Abe's advice to Homer -- "Don't overreach" -- is less abusive in intent. It could be genuine advice (albeit harshly worded) to spare Homer future heartbreak, as it could be based on Abe's own experience with having a wife who outshines him in every respect.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: After "Mother Simpson" reveals what happened to Homer's mother, Abe's advice to Homer -- "Don't overreach" -- is less abusive in intent. It could may be genuine advice (albeit harshly worded) to spare Homer future heartbreak, as it could be based on Abe's own experience with having a wife who outshines him in every respect.him.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: After "Mother Simpson" reveals what happened to Homer's mother, Abe's advice to Homer -- "Don't overreach" -- is less of an abusive barb and more genuine advice to spare Homer future heartbreak, as it could be based on Abe's own experience with having a girlfriend/wife who outshines him in every respect.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: After "Mother Simpson" reveals what happened to Homer's mother, Abe's advice to Homer -- "Don't overreach" -- is less of an abusive barb and more in intent. It could be genuine advice (albeit harshly worded) to spare Homer future heartbreak, as it could be based on Abe's own experience with having a girlfriend/wife wife who outshines him in every respect.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: After "Mother Simpson" reveals what happened to Homer's mother, Abe's advice to Homer -- "Don't overreach" -- is less of an abusive barb and more genuine advice to spare Homer future heartbreak, as it could be based on Abe's own experience with having a girlfriend/wife who outshines him in every respect.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Young Homer decides to skip his English class, saying "English, who needs that? I'm never going to England!". In season 15's "The Regina Monologues", Homer does travel to England.

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Young Homer decides to skip his English class, saying "English, who needs that? I'm never going to England!". In season 15's "The Regina Monologues", Homer does travel to England.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Young Homer decides to skip his English class, saying "English, who needs that? I'm never going to England!". In season 15's "The Regina Monologues", Homer does travel to England.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Young Homer decides to skip his English class, saying "English, who needs that? I'm never going to England!". In season 15's "The Regina Monologues", Homer does travel to England.England.
** Also, there's the plot point where Homer pretends to need a tutor as a way to set up a relationship between him and Marge. Thirteen years later, Cady does the same thing in the movie ''Film/MeanGirls''.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Young Homer decides to skip his English class, saying "English, who needs that? I'm never going to England!". In season 15's "The Regina Monologues", Homer does travel to England.

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