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--> '''Apu''': "Ah, I just had this beautiful dream where I died."
--> '''Manjula''': "Oh no you don't; not until they're out of college."
--> '''Apu''': "Listen, I'll die when I want to."
--> '''Apu''': "Ah, I just had this beautiful dream where I died."
--> '''Manjula''': "Oh no you don't; not until they're out of college."
--> '''Apu''': "Listen, I'll die when I want to."
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It's nine plus the stepkid
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* HilariousInHindsight: Matt Groening is now a father to ''nine'' children, counting one stepchild and two sets of twins.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Matt Groening is now a father to ''nine'' ''ten'' children, counting one stepchild and two sets of twins.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Was Allen Wrench really an alien found inside a meteor or a person in a costume trying to mess with Bart?
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeJokeInterpretation: Was Allen Wrench really an alien found inside a meteor or a person in a costume trying to mess with Bart?
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* HilariousInHindsight: Matt Groening is now a father to *nine* children, counting one stepchild and two sets of twins.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Matt Groening is now a father to *nine* ''nine'' children, counting one stepchild and two sets of twins.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Matt Groening is now a father to eight children, counting one stepchild and two sets of twins.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Matt Groening is now a father to eight *nine* children, counting one stepchild and two sets of twins.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Matt Groening is now a father to eight children, counting one stepchild and two sets of twins.
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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: When this episode came out, there ''were'' no recorded cases of surviving octuplet births, with Apu and Manjula's number merely one-upping [[RippedFromTheHeadlines the real-life McCaughey septuplets]] (and, InUniverse, being beaten in turn by [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter a set of nonuplets born in Shelbyville]]). 2009 saw the high-profile case of "Octomom" Nadya Suleman, all eight of whose babies survived.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: The octuplets are rescued from the zoo and they're all Apu and Manjula's again... which means the two go back to the stressful and joyless experience of raising eight kids with their limited resources again. Future episodes only go on to show how Apu and Manjula's marriage only gets worse from here.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: The octuplets are rescued from the zoo and they're all Apu and Manjula's again... which means the two go back to the stressful and joyless experience of raising eight kids with their limited resources again.again, and Homer presumably will have to do his act until their contract expires. Future episodes only go on to show how Apu and Manjula's marriage only gets worse from here.
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Shoehorn with multiple hindsight tropes in one entry.
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* [[HilariousInHindsight Hilarious]] and/or HeartwarmingInHindsight: [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS32E11TheDadFeelingsLimited This is not the last time Maggie inspired attempted baby making.]]
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* [[HilariousInHindsight Hilarious]] and/or HeartwarmingInHindsight: [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS32E11TheDadFeelingsLimited This is not the last time Maggie inspired attempted baby making.]]
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--> '''Apu''': "Listen, I'll die when I want to."
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--> '''Apu''': "Listen, I'll die when I want to.""
* OlderThanTheyThink: Viewers who've watched the episode for the first time in UsefulNotes/TheNewTens and beyond might think its storyline to be a reference to Nadya Suleman, the "Octomom" who became a celebrity for a while after giving birth to octuplets in 2009. The episode was actually produced close to a decade before this, and was actually partly inspired by the real-life Dionne Quintuplets, and partly by the case of Mandy Allwood, a British woman who became pregnant with octuplets after using experimental fertility drugs a couple of years before the episode was produced (though unlike Manjula or Suleman, Allwood miscarried all of her octuplets).
* OlderThanTheyThink: Viewers who've watched the episode for the first time in UsefulNotes/TheNewTens and beyond might think its storyline to be a reference to Nadya Suleman, the "Octomom" who became a celebrity for a while after giving birth to octuplets in 2009. The episode was actually produced close to a decade before this, and was actually partly inspired by the real-life Dionne Quintuplets, and partly by the case of Mandy Allwood, a British woman who became pregnant with octuplets after using experimental fertility drugs a couple of years before the episode was produced (though unlike Manjula or Suleman, Allwood miscarried all of her octuplets).
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Not Broken Base, just complaining.
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* BrokenBase: Many people decry this episode as the start of Apu's character decline, going from portraying him as a reasonable jolly guy into a miserable worked-upon dude who's mercilessly bullied by his wife and kids. Many also don't like how the episode portrays marriage and children as being this unhappy miserable part of life.
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-->'''Allen Wrench''': ''[normal voice]'' Hamper lids? Third floor. ''[to Bart in metallic voice]'' Help! I need tungsten to live! ''Tungsten!''
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-->'''Allen Wrench''': ''[normal voice]'' Hamper lids? Third floor. ''[to Bart in metallic voice]'' Help! I need tungsten to live! ''Tungsten!''''Tuuuuuuuuuuungsten!''
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Realized I just disproved this entry when I added that last bit on.
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--> '''Apu''': "Listen, I'll die when I want to."
* {{Misblamed}}: This episode was singled out by Hari Kondabolu in his documentary ''The Problem with Apu'' as perpetuating racist stereotypes about Indians having large families. Apu and Manjula having octuplets was actually inspired partly by the Dionne Quintuplets, who ended up becoming a performing troupe in order to pay for their upbringing expenses, and partly by the case of Mandy Allwood, a British woman who became pregnant with octuplets thanks to some poorly-tested fertility drugs (albeit none of Allwood's octuplets survived until birth). The writers might not have thought through the full implications of having it be the show's only American-Indian couple who had octuplets, but it's highly doubtful that it was an intentional attempt to perpetuate a negative stereotype (though in Kondabolu's own defence, he did point out that it was more of an issue for viewers who watched newer episodes without understanding the context of how Apu and Manjula came to have such a huge brood).
* {{Misblamed}}: This episode was singled out by Hari Kondabolu in his documentary ''The Problem with Apu'' as perpetuating racist stereotypes about Indians having large families. Apu and Manjula having octuplets was actually inspired partly by the Dionne Quintuplets, who ended up becoming a performing troupe in order to pay for their upbringing expenses, and partly by the case of Mandy Allwood, a British woman who became pregnant with octuplets thanks to some poorly-tested fertility drugs (albeit none of Allwood's octuplets survived until birth). The writers might not have thought through the full implications of having it be the show's only American-Indian couple who had octuplets, but it's highly doubtful that it was an intentional attempt to perpetuate a negative stereotype (though in Kondabolu's own defence, he did point out that it was more of an issue for viewers who watched newer episodes without understanding the context of how Apu and Manjula came to have such a huge brood).
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--> '''Apu''': "Listen, I'll die when I want to."
* {{Misblamed}}: This episode was singled out by Hari Kondabolu in his documentary ''The Problem with Apu'' as perpetuating racist stereotypes about Indians having large families. Apu and Manjula having octuplets was actually inspired partly by the Dionne Quintuplets, who ended up becoming a performing troupe in order to pay for their upbringing expenses, and partly by the case of Mandy Allwood, a British woman who became pregnant with octuplets thanks to some poorly-tested fertility drugs (albeit none of Allwood's octuplets survived until birth). The writers might not have thought through the full implications of having it be the show's only American-Indian couple who had octuplets, but it's highly doubtful that it was an intentional attempt to perpetuate a negative stereotype (though in Kondabolu's own defence, he did point out that it was more of an issue for viewers who watched newer episodes without understanding the context of how Apu and Manjula came to have such a huge brood)."
* {{Misblamed}}: This episode was singled out by Hari Kondabolu in his documentary ''The Problem with Apu'' as perpetuating racist stereotypes about Indians having large families. Apu and Manjula having octuplets was actually inspired partly by the Dionne Quintuplets, who ended up becoming a performing troupe in order to pay for their upbringing expenses, and partly by the case of Mandy Allwood, a British woman who became pregnant with octuplets thanks to some poorly-tested fertility drugs (albeit none of Allwood's octuplets survived until birth). The writers might not have thought through the full implications of having it be the show's only American-Indian couple who had octuplets, but it's highly doubtful that it was an intentional attempt to perpetuate a negative stereotype (though in Kondabolu's own defence, he did point out that it was more of an issue for viewers who watched newer episodes without understanding the context of how Apu and Manjula came to have such a huge brood).
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* {{Misblamed}}: This episode was singled out by Hari Kondabolu in his documentary ''The Problem with Apu'' as perpetuating racist stereotypes about Indians having large families. Apu and Manjula having octuplets was actually inspired partly by the Dionne Quintuplets, who ended up becoming a performing troupe in order to pay for their upbringing expenses, and partly by the case of Mandy Allwood, a British woman who became pregnant with octuplets thanks to some poorly-tested fertility drugs (albeit none of Allwood's octuplets survived until birth). The writers might not have thought through the full implications of having it be the show's only American-Indian couple who had octuplets, but it's highly doubtful that it was an intentional attempt to perpetuate a negative stereotype.
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* {{Misblamed}}: This episode was singled out by Hari Kondabolu in his documentary ''The Problem with Apu'' as perpetuating racist stereotypes about Indians having large families. Apu and Manjula having octuplets was actually inspired partly by the Dionne Quintuplets, who ended up becoming a performing troupe in order to pay for their upbringing expenses, and partly by the case of Mandy Allwood, a British woman who became pregnant with octuplets thanks to some poorly-tested fertility drugs (albeit none of Allwood's octuplets survived until birth). The writers might not have thought through the full implications of having it be the show's only American-Indian couple who had octuplets, but it's highly doubtful that it was an intentional attempt to perpetuate a negative stereotype.stereotype (though in Kondabolu's own defence, he did point out that it was more of an issue for viewers who watched newer episodes without understanding the context of how Apu and Manjula came to have such a huge brood).
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--> '''Apu''': "Listen, I'll die when I want to."
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--> '''Apu''': "Listen, I'll die when I want to.""
* {{Misblamed}}: This episode was singled out by Hari Kondabolu in his documentary ''The Problem with Apu'' as perpetuating racist stereotypes about Indians having large families. Apu and Manjula having octuplets was actually inspired partly by the Dionne Quintuplets, who ended up becoming a performing troupe in order to pay for their upbringing expenses, and partly by the case of Mandy Allwood, a British woman who became pregnant with octuplets thanks to some poorly-tested fertility drugs (albeit none of Allwood's octuplets survived until birth). The writers might not have thought through the full implications of having it be the show's only American-Indian couple who had octuplets, but it's highly doubtful that it was an intentional attempt to perpetuate a negative stereotype.
* {{Misblamed}}: This episode was singled out by Hari Kondabolu in his documentary ''The Problem with Apu'' as perpetuating racist stereotypes about Indians having large families. Apu and Manjula having octuplets was actually inspired partly by the Dionne Quintuplets, who ended up becoming a performing troupe in order to pay for their upbringing expenses, and partly by the case of Mandy Allwood, a British woman who became pregnant with octuplets thanks to some poorly-tested fertility drugs (albeit none of Allwood's octuplets survived until birth). The writers might not have thought through the full implications of having it be the show's only American-Indian couple who had octuplets, but it's highly doubtful that it was an intentional attempt to perpetuate a negative stereotype.
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--> Apu: "Ah, I just had this beautiful dream where I died."
--> Manjula: "Oh no you don't; not until they're out of college."
--> Apu: "Listen, I'll die when I want to."
--> Manjula: "Oh no you don't; not until they're out of college."
--> Apu: "Listen, I'll die when I want to."
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--> Apu: '''Apu''': "Ah, I just had this beautiful dream where I died."
-->Manjula: '''Manjula''': "Oh no you don't; not until they're out of college."
-->Apu: '''Apu''': "Listen, I'll die when I want to."
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Was Allen Wrench really an alien found inside a meteor or a person in a costume trying to mess with Bart?
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The implication that Allen Wrench is some sort of alien lifeform.
-->'''Bart''': Cool costume!
-->'''Allen Wrench''': ''[sotto voce in a grating, metallic voice]'' It's not a costume. They found me inside a meteor!
-->'''Marge''': Where are your hamper lids?
-->'''Allen Wrench''': ''[normal voice]'' Hamper lids? Third floor. ''[to Bart in metallic voice]'' Help! I need tungsten to live! ''Tungsten!''
-->'''Bart''': Cool costume!
-->'''Allen Wrench''': ''[sotto voce in a grating, metallic voice]'' It's not a costume. They found me inside a meteor!
-->'''Marge''': Where are your hamper lids?
-->'''Allen Wrench''': ''[normal voice]'' Hamper lids? Third floor. ''[to Bart in metallic voice]'' Help! I need tungsten to live! ''Tungsten!''
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny:EsotericHappyEnding: The octuplets are rescued from the zoo and they're all Apu and Manjula's again... which means the two go back to the stressful and joyless experience of raising eight kids with their limited resources again. Future episodes only go on to show how Apu and Manjula's marriage only gets worse from here.
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--> Apu: "Listen, I'll die when I want to."
* EsotericHappyEnding: The octuplets are rescued from the zoo and they're all Apu and Manjula's again... which means the two go back to the stressful and joyless experience of raising eight kids with their limited resources again. Future episodes only go on to show how Apu and Manjula's marriage only gets worse from here.
* EsotericHappyEnding: The octuplets are rescued from the zoo and they're all Apu and Manjula's again... which means the two go back to the stressful and joyless experience of raising eight kids with their limited resources again. Future episodes only go on to show how Apu and Manjula's marriage only gets worse from here.
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--> Apu: "Listen, I'll die when I want to."
* EsotericHappyEnding: The octuplets are rescued from the zoo and they're all Apu and Manjula's again... which means the two go back to the stressful and joyless experience of raising eight kids with their limited resources again. Future episodes only go on to show how Apu and Manjula's marriage only gets worse from here."
* EsotericHappyEnding: The octuplets are rescued from the zoo and they're all Apu and Manjula's again... which means the two go back to the stressful and joyless experience of raising eight kids with their limited resources again. Future episodes only go on to show how Apu and Manjula's marriage only gets worse from here.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: The octuplets are rescued from the zoo and they're all Apu and Manjula's again...which means the two go back to the stressful and joyless experience of raising eight kids with their limited resources again. Future episodes only go on to show how Apu and Manjula's marriage only gets worse from here.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: The octuplets are rescued from the zoo and they're all Apu and Manjula's again... which means the two go back to the stressful and joyless experience of raising eight kids with their limited resources again. Future episodes only go on to show how Apu and Manjula's marriage only gets worse from here.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny:
--> Apu: "Ah, I just had this beautiful dream where I died."
--> Manjula: "Oh no you don't; not until they're out of college."
--> Apu: "Listen, I'll die when I want to."
--> Apu: "Ah, I just had this beautiful dream where I died."
--> Manjula: "Oh no you don't; not until they're out of college."
--> Apu: "Listen, I'll die when I want to."
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* BrokenBase: Many people decry this episode as the start of Apu's character decline, going from portraying him as a reasonable jolly guy into a miserable worked-upon dude who's mercilessly bullied by his wife and kids. Many also don't like how the episode portrays marriage and children as being this unhappy miserable part of life.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: The octuplets are rescued from the zoo and they're all Apu and Manjula's again...which means the two go back to the stressful and joyless experience of raising eight kids with their limited resources again. Future episodes only go on to show how Apu and Manjula's marriage only gets worse from here.
