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** The movie’s casting has had a divisive reaction, as noted under WTHCastingAgency, with criticisms about the lack of Broadway singers, lack of LGBTQ actors, no original cast members, and accusations that the big names involved were cast more to to avoid being a [[BoxOfficeBomb financial flop]] like that stage show. However, there are fans who are excited to see these stars doing the show, and others have noted that having the original cast of a show that was losing money coming in to do the movie wouldn’t have been financially feasible. Things cooled down a bit more when two Broadway actors joined the cast replacing big names who were previously set to appear.
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** The movie’s casting has had a divisive reaction, as noted under WTHCastingAgency, QuestionableCasting, with criticisms about the lack of Broadway singers, lack of LGBTQ actors, no original cast members, and accusations that the big names involved were cast more to to avoid being a [[BoxOfficeBomb financial flop]] like that stage show. However, there are fans who are excited to see these stars doing the show, and others have noted that having the original cast of a show that was losing money coming in to do the movie wouldn’t have been financially feasible. Things cooled down a bit more when two Broadway actors joined the cast replacing big names who were previously set to appear.
* QuestionableCasting:
** The immediate fan response to the initial casting announcement for the film adaptation. With only one of the announced actors actually being LGBT (Creator/AndrewRannells as Trent Oliver, ironically the only straight man in the New York party), concern that casting Creator/JamesCorden as Barry would render the role a stereotypical caricature rather than an authentic character, and disappointment that the original stage cast were being pushed aside in favour of bigger names, fans expressed some... unhappiness with these decisions, to put it mildly.
** Reviews were especially harsh towards Corden, with one review calling it "The worst gay face in a long, long time" and another had the headline "James Corden should have been banned from The Prom". However, several viewers came to Corden's defense, [[CriticalBacklash saying his reviews were overly harsh]].
** Mrs. Greene being played by Black actor Kerry Washington in the film. Some critics have expressed disbelief that a Black woman would be portraying a Fox News conservative woman. Because black conservatives don't exist, obviously....
** Kevin Chamberlain does a good job as Sheldon, but the fact that a Tony-nominated Broadway musical comedy actor doesn't get a single solo while weaker singers in the cast do can make it feel like his talents are being a bit wasted, especially because the leading role of Barry would be right up his alley. Of course, it's worth noting that the odds of a primarily Broadway name and usually a supporting one at that getting the leading man role in a Creator/RyanMurphy production is quite low.
** While he has much more to do than Chamberlain, it's been said that Creator/AndrewRannells would've been suited to play Barry rather than Corden as well.
** Nicole Kidman doesn't come across as the most convincing chorus girl, as her voice is noticeably thin, and her dancing, while fine, is not even close to the Fosse moves that someone who has spent decades in ''Theatre/{{Chicago}}'' should be able to pull off. Kidman's lack of dancing skills are particular noticeable when Angie, the character who should logically be by far the best dancer present, completely sits out the dance break in "It's Not About Me". Additionally, some have questioned why such a big name like Kidman would be cast in a role that's mostly stuck in the background throughout the film.
** Several viewers noted that Ellen Jo Pellman's status as a PerpetualSmiler didn't gel well with Emma's status as TheWoobie. Some have even said that costar Ariana [=DeBose=] would've been better suited for the part due to her more head on handling of the emotional scenes.
*** Granted, Pellman seems to be {{Misblamed}} for the situation - interviews have stated that she initially portrayed Emma with a more serious tone, [[ExecutiveMeddling until Ryan Murphy told her to change it]].
** The immediate fan response to the initial casting announcement for the film adaptation. With only one of the announced actors actually being LGBT (Creator/AndrewRannells as Trent Oliver, ironically the only straight man in the New York party), concern that casting Creator/JamesCorden as Barry would render the role a stereotypical caricature rather than an authentic character, and disappointment that the original stage cast were being pushed aside in favour of bigger names, fans expressed some... unhappiness with these decisions, to put it mildly.
** Reviews were especially harsh towards Corden, with one review calling it "The worst gay face in a long, long time" and another had the headline "James Corden should have been banned from The Prom". However, several viewers came to Corden's defense, [[CriticalBacklash saying his reviews were overly harsh]].
** Mrs. Greene being played by Black actor Kerry Washington in the film. Some critics have expressed disbelief that a Black woman would be portraying a Fox News conservative woman. Because black conservatives don't exist, obviously....
** Kevin Chamberlain does a good job as Sheldon, but the fact that a Tony-nominated Broadway musical comedy actor doesn't get a single solo while weaker singers in the cast do can make it feel like his talents are being a bit wasted, especially because the leading role of Barry would be right up his alley. Of course, it's worth noting that the odds of a primarily Broadway name and usually a supporting one at that getting the leading man role in a Creator/RyanMurphy production is quite low.
** While he has much more to do than Chamberlain, it's been said that Creator/AndrewRannells would've been suited to play Barry rather than Corden as well.
** Nicole Kidman doesn't come across as the most convincing chorus girl, as her voice is noticeably thin, and her dancing, while fine, is not even close to the Fosse moves that someone who has spent decades in ''Theatre/{{Chicago}}'' should be able to pull off. Kidman's lack of dancing skills are particular noticeable when Angie, the character who should logically be by far the best dancer present, completely sits out the dance break in "It's Not About Me". Additionally, some have questioned why such a big name like Kidman would be cast in a role that's mostly stuck in the background throughout the film.
** Several viewers noted that Ellen Jo Pellman's status as a PerpetualSmiler didn't gel well with Emma's status as TheWoobie. Some have even said that costar Ariana [=DeBose=] would've been better suited for the part due to her more head on handling of the emotional scenes.
*** Granted, Pellman seems to be {{Misblamed}} for the situation - interviews have stated that she initially portrayed Emma with a more serious tone, [[ExecutiveMeddling until Ryan Murphy told her to change it]].
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** Alyssa is closeted due to her homophobic mother and classmates despite wanting to come out, and is reduced to tears in more than one scene.
* WTHCastingAgency:
** The immediate fan response to the initial casting announcement for the film adaptation. With only one of the announced actors actually being LGBT (Creator/AndrewRannells as Trent Oliver, ironically the only straight man in the New York party), concern that casting Creator/JamesCorden as Barry would render the role a stereotypical caricature rather than an authentic character, and disappointment that the original stage cast were being pushed aside in favour of bigger names, fans expressed some... unhappiness with these decisions, to put it mildly.
** Reviews were especially harsh towards Corden, with one review calling it "The worst gay face in a long, long time" and another had the headline "James Corden should have been banned from The Prom". However, several viewers came to Corden's defense, [[CriticalBacklash saying his reviews were overly harsh]].
** Mrs. Greene being played by Black actor Kerry Washington in the film. Some critics have expressed disbelief that a Black woman would be portraying a Fox News conservative woman. Because black conservatives don't exist, obviously....
** Kevin Chamberlain does a good job as Sheldon, but the fact that a Tony nominated Broadway musical comedy actor doesn't get a single solo while weaker singers in the cast do can make it feel like his talents are being a bit wasted, especially because the leading role of Barry would be right up his alley. Of course, it's worth noting that the odds of a primarily Broadway name and usually a supporting one at that getting the leading man role in a Creator/RyanMurphy production is quite low.
** While he has much more to do than Chamberlain, it's been said that Creator/AndrewRannells would've been suited to play Barry rather than Corden as well.
** Nicole Kidman doesn't come across as the most convincing chorus girl, as her voice is noticeably thin, and her dancing, while fine, is not even close to the Fosse moves that someone whose spent decades in ''Theatre/{{Chicago}}'' should be able to pull off. Kidman's lack of dancing skills are particular noticeable when Angie, the character who should logically be by far the best dancer present, completely sits out the dance break in "It's Not About Me". Additionally, some have questioned why such a big name like Kidman would be cast in a role that's mostly stuck in the background throughout the film.
** Several viewers noted that Ellen Jo Pellman's status as a PerpetualSmiler didn't gel well with Emma's status as TheWoobie. Some have even said that costar Ariana [=DeBose=] would've been better suited for the part due to her more head on handling of the emotional scenes.
*** Granted, Pellman seems to be {{Misblamed}} for the situation - interviews have stated that she initially portrayed Emma with a more serious tone, [[ExecutiveMeddling until Ryan Murphy told her to change it]].
* WTHCastingAgency:
** The immediate fan response to the initial casting announcement for the film adaptation. With only one of the announced actors actually being LGBT (Creator/AndrewRannells as Trent Oliver, ironically the only straight man in the New York party), concern that casting Creator/JamesCorden as Barry would render the role a stereotypical caricature rather than an authentic character, and disappointment that the original stage cast were being pushed aside in favour of bigger names, fans expressed some... unhappiness with these decisions, to put it mildly.
** Reviews were especially harsh towards Corden, with one review calling it "The worst gay face in a long, long time" and another had the headline "James Corden should have been banned from The Prom". However, several viewers came to Corden's defense, [[CriticalBacklash saying his reviews were overly harsh]].
** Mrs. Greene being played by Black actor Kerry Washington in the film. Some critics have expressed disbelief that a Black woman would be portraying a Fox News conservative woman. Because black conservatives don't exist, obviously....
** Kevin Chamberlain does a good job as Sheldon, but the fact that a Tony nominated Broadway musical comedy actor doesn't get a single solo while weaker singers in the cast do can make it feel like his talents are being a bit wasted, especially because the leading role of Barry would be right up his alley. Of course, it's worth noting that the odds of a primarily Broadway name and usually a supporting one at that getting the leading man role in a Creator/RyanMurphy production is quite low.
** While he has much more to do than Chamberlain, it's been said that Creator/AndrewRannells would've been suited to play Barry rather than Corden as well.
** Nicole Kidman doesn't come across as the most convincing chorus girl, as her voice is noticeably thin, and her dancing, while fine, is not even close to the Fosse moves that someone whose spent decades in ''Theatre/{{Chicago}}'' should be able to pull off. Kidman's lack of dancing skills are particular noticeable when Angie, the character who should logically be by far the best dancer present, completely sits out the dance break in "It's Not About Me". Additionally, some have questioned why such a big name like Kidman would be cast in a role that's mostly stuck in the background throughout the film.
** Several viewers noted that Ellen Jo Pellman's status as a PerpetualSmiler didn't gel well with Emma's status as TheWoobie. Some have even said that costar Ariana [=DeBose=] would've been better suited for the part due to her more head on handling of the emotional scenes.
*** Granted, Pellman seems to be {{Misblamed}} for the situation - interviews have stated that she initially portrayed Emma with a more serious tone, [[ExecutiveMeddling until Ryan Murphy told her to change it]].
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** Alyssa is closeted due to her homophobic mother and classmates despite wanting to come out, and is reduced to tears in more than one scene.
* WTHCastingAgency:
** The immediate fan response to the initial casting announcement for the film adaptation. With only one of the announced actors actually being LGBT (Creator/AndrewRannells as Trent Oliver, ironically the only straight man in the New York party), concern that casting Creator/JamesCorden as Barry would render the role a stereotypical caricature rather than an authentic character, and disappointment that the original stage cast were being pushed aside in favour of bigger names, fans expressed some... unhappiness with these decisions, to put it mildly.
** Reviews were especially harsh towards Corden, with one review calling it "The worst gay face in a long, long time" and another had the headline "James Corden should have been banned from The Prom". However, several viewers came to Corden's defense, [[CriticalBacklash saying his reviews were overly harsh]].
** Mrs. Greene being played by Black actor Kerry Washington in the film. Some critics have expressed disbelief that a Black woman would be portraying a Fox News conservative woman. Because black conservatives don't exist, obviously....
** Kevin Chamberlain does a good job as Sheldon, but the fact that a Tony nominated Broadway musical comedy actor doesn't get a single solo while weaker singers in the cast do can make it feel like his talents are being a bit wasted, especially because the leading role of Barry would be right up his alley. Of course, it's worth noting that the odds of a primarily Broadway name and usually a supporting one at that getting the leading man role in a Creator/RyanMurphy production is quite low.
** While he has much more to do than Chamberlain, it's been said that Creator/AndrewRannells would've been suited to play Barry rather than Corden as well.
** Nicole Kidman doesn't come across as the most convincing chorus girl, as her voice is noticeably thin, and her dancing, while fine, is not even close to the Fosse moves that someone whose spent decades in ''Theatre/{{Chicago}}'' should be able to pull off. Kidman's lack of dancing skills are particular noticeable when Angie, the character who should logically be by far the best dancer present, completely sits out the dance break in "It's Not About Me". Additionally, some have questioned why such a big name like Kidman would be cast in a role that's mostly stuck in the background throughout the film.
** Several viewers noted that Ellen Jo Pellman's status as a PerpetualSmiler didn't gel well with Emma's status as TheWoobie. Some have even said that costar Ariana [=DeBose=] would've been better suited for the part due to her more head on handling of the emotional scenes.
*** Granted, Pellman seems to be {{Misblamed}} for the situation - interviews have stated that she initially portrayed Emma with a more serious tone, [[ExecutiveMeddling until Ryan Murphy told her to change it]].scene.
* WTHCastingAgency:
** The immediate fan response to the initial casting announcement for the film adaptation. With only one of the announced actors actually being LGBT (Creator/AndrewRannells as Trent Oliver, ironically the only straight man in the New York party), concern that casting Creator/JamesCorden as Barry would render the role a stereotypical caricature rather than an authentic character, and disappointment that the original stage cast were being pushed aside in favour of bigger names, fans expressed some... unhappiness with these decisions, to put it mildly.
** Reviews were especially harsh towards Corden, with one review calling it "The worst gay face in a long, long time" and another had the headline "James Corden should have been banned from The Prom". However, several viewers came to Corden's defense, [[CriticalBacklash saying his reviews were overly harsh]].
** Mrs. Greene being played by Black actor Kerry Washington in the film. Some critics have expressed disbelief that a Black woman would be portraying a Fox News conservative woman. Because black conservatives don't exist, obviously....
** Kevin Chamberlain does a good job as Sheldon, but the fact that a Tony nominated Broadway musical comedy actor doesn't get a single solo while weaker singers in the cast do can make it feel like his talents are being a bit wasted, especially because the leading role of Barry would be right up his alley. Of course, it's worth noting that the odds of a primarily Broadway name and usually a supporting one at that getting the leading man role in a Creator/RyanMurphy production is quite low.
** While he has much more to do than Chamberlain, it's been said that Creator/AndrewRannells would've been suited to play Barry rather than Corden as well.
** Nicole Kidman doesn't come across as the most convincing chorus girl, as her voice is noticeably thin, and her dancing, while fine, is not even close to the Fosse moves that someone whose spent decades in ''Theatre/{{Chicago}}'' should be able to pull off. Kidman's lack of dancing skills are particular noticeable when Angie, the character who should logically be by far the best dancer present, completely sits out the dance break in "It's Not About Me". Additionally, some have questioned why such a big name like Kidman would be cast in a role that's mostly stuck in the background throughout the film.
** Several viewers noted that Ellen Jo Pellman's status as a PerpetualSmiler didn't gel well with Emma's status as TheWoobie. Some have even said that costar Ariana [=DeBose=] would've been better suited for the part due to her more head on handling of the emotional scenes.
*** Granted, Pellman seems to be {{Misblamed}} for the situation - interviews have stated that she initially portrayed Emma with a more serious tone, [[ExecutiveMeddling until Ryan Murphy told her to change it]].
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* FridgeBrilliance: Trent blames the students' "general lack of empathy" on the school's lack of a drama program. This is actually enforced by the fact that Mr. Hawkins, the only person in school who supports Emma, is an avid theatergoer.
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* FridgeBrilliance: FridgeBrilliance:
** Trent blames the students' "general lack of empathy" on the school's lack of a drama program. This is actually enforced by the fact that Mr. Hawkins, the only person in school who supports Emma, is an avidtheatergoer.theatergoer.
** In "Alyssa Greene," Alyssa sings about Mrs. Greene's FreudianExcuse for controlling her life: "'Cause mom's convinced if you're perfect,/Your father might come back." Why would Mrs. Greene think that way? Well, if Alyssa is involved in constant extracurricular activities and always excels, then her father will naturally attend the majority of her events. Since Mrs. Greene will also be at those events, she's probably convinced herself that frequently being in the same room as her ex-husband will at the very least spark the idea of reconciling. That's why she's pushing Alyssa to sign up for as many activities as possible and be the best in them: the better Alyssa does, the more opportunities Mrs. Greene will have to talk to her ex.
** Trent blames the students' "general lack of empathy" on the school's lack of a drama program. This is actually enforced by the fact that Mr. Hawkins, the only person in school who supports Emma, is an avid
** In "Alyssa Greene," Alyssa sings about Mrs. Greene's FreudianExcuse for controlling her life: "'Cause mom's convinced if you're perfect,/Your father might come back." Why would Mrs. Greene think that way? Well, if Alyssa is involved in constant extracurricular activities and always excels, then her father will naturally attend the majority of her events. Since Mrs. Greene will also be at those events, she's probably convinced herself that frequently being in the same room as her ex-husband will at the very least spark the idea of reconciling. That's why she's pushing Alyssa to sign up for as many activities as possible and be the best in them: the better Alyssa does, the more opportunities Mrs. Greene will have to talk to her ex.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The initial casting of the movie was criticized for the lack of queer actors along with an over reliance on big names rather than more seasoned musical theatre performs. So once Music/ArianaGrande and Creator/{{Awkwafina}} dropped out of the film, the casting of LGBTQ and Tony nominated performers Ariana [=DeBose=] and Kevin Chamberlain helped matters. Additionally, the actress who was later announced to play Emma is an unknown and identifies as queer.
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** Creator/MerylStreep playing Beth Leavel's role in the film is pretty amusing since Leavel is set to play ''Streep's'' character in the upcoming stage adaptation of ''Film/TheDevilWearsPrada''. For an added bonus, both women had previously played [[Theatre/MammaMia Donna Sheridan]] just one year apart from each other.
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** Creator/MerylStreep playing Beth Leavel's role in the film is pretty amusing since Leavel is set to would later play ''Streep's'' character in the upcoming stage adaptation of ''Film/TheDevilWearsPrada''. For an added bonus, both women had previously played [[Theatre/MammaMia Donna Sheridan]] just one year apart from each other.
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** Dance With You's change to [[TastesLikeDiabetes a dreamy area filled with pink trees and falling petals]] is played so straight that it can it can be hard to take it seriously.
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** Dance With You's change to [[TastesLikeDiabetes a dreamy area filled with pink trees and falling petals]] petals is played so straight that it can it can be hard to take it seriously.
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** As noted, the film version of Dance With You can be seen as [[TastesLikeDiabetes overly sappy]], but it's also a sweet moment for many, even if they still view it as being unintentionally silly.
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** As noted, the film version of Dance With You can be seen as [[TastesLikeDiabetes overly sappy]], sappy, but it's also a sweet moment for many, even if they still view it as being unintentionally silly.
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* TastesLikeDiabetes: For some, the film is just so sappy and cutesy at times that it can be hard to take seriously. To some, [[NarmCharm it adds charm to the piece]], but for others,
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* TastesLikeDiabetes: SweetnessAversion: For some, the film is just so sappy and cutesy at times that it can be hard to take seriously. To some, [[NarmCharm it adds charm to the piece]], but for others,
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* TheWoobie:
** Emma's classmates blame her for the prom getting cancelled, and then when prom is back on, Emma goes to the gym [[spoiler:only to find it completely empty. The other kids, and Mrs Greene, conspired against her and tricked her into attending a fake prom by herself. It's heartbreaking.]]
** Alyssa is closeted due to her homophobic mother and classmates despite wanting to come out, and is reduced to tears in more than one scene.
** Emma's classmates blame her for the prom getting cancelled, and then when prom is back on, Emma goes to the gym [[spoiler:only to find it completely empty. The other kids, and Mrs Greene, conspired against her and tricked her into attending a fake prom by herself. It's heartbreaking.]]
** Alyssa is closeted due to her homophobic mother and classmates despite wanting to come out, and is reduced to tears in more than one scene.
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*** Granted, Pellman seems to be {{Misblamed}} for the situation - interviews have stated that she initially portrayed Emma with a more serious tone, [[ExecutiveMeddling until Ryan Murphy told her to change it]].
* TheWoobie:
** Emma's classmates blame her for the prom getting cancelled, and then when prom is back on, Emma goes to the gym [[spoiler:only to find it completely empty. The other kids, and Mrs Greene, conspired against her and tricked her into attending a fake prom by herself. It's heartbreaking.]]
** Alyssa is closeted due to her homophobic mother and classmates despite wanting to come out, and is reduced to tears in more than one scene.
* TheWoobie:
** Emma's classmates blame her for the prom getting cancelled, and then when prom is back on, Emma goes to the gym [[spoiler:only to find it completely empty. The other kids, and Mrs Greene, conspired against her and tricked her into attending a fake prom by herself. It's heartbreaking.]]
** Alyssa is closeted due to her homophobic mother and classmates despite wanting to come out, and is reduced to tears in more than one scene.
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*** Granted, Pellman seems to be {{Misblamed}} for the situation - interviews have stated that she initially portrayed Emma with a more serious tone, [[ExecutiveMeddling until Ryan Murphy told her to change it]].
* TheWoobie:
** Emma's classmates blame her for the prom getting cancelled, and then when prom is back on, Emma goes to the gym [[spoiler:only to find it completely empty. The other kids, and Mrs Greene, conspired against her and tricked her into attending a fake prom by herself. It's heartbreaking.]]
** Alyssa is closeted due to her homophobic mother and classmates despite wanting to come out, and is reduced to tears in more than one scene.it]].
* TheWoobie:
** Emma's classmates blame her for the prom getting cancelled, and then when prom is back on, Emma goes to the gym [[spoiler:only to find it completely empty. The other kids, and Mrs Greene, conspired against her and tricked her into attending a fake prom by herself. It's heartbreaking.]]
** Alyssa is closeted due to her homophobic mother and classmates despite wanting to come out, and is reduced to tears in more than one scene.
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*** Granted, Pellman seems to be {{Misblamed}} for the situation - interviews have stated that she initially portrayed Emma with a more serious tone, [[ExecutiveMeddling until Ryan Murphy told her to change it]].
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*** Granted, Pellman seems to be {{Misblamed}} for the situation - interviews have stated that she initially portrayed Emma with a more serious tone, [[ExecutiveMeddling until Ryan Murphy told her to change it]].it]].
* TheWoobie:
** Emma's classmates blame her for the prom getting cancelled, and then when prom is back on, Emma goes to the gym [[spoiler:only to find it completely empty. The other kids, and Mrs Greene, conspired against her and tricked her into attending a fake prom by herself. It's heartbreaking.]]
** Alyssa is closeted due to her homophobic mother and classmates despite wanting to come out, and is reduced to tears in more than one scene.
* TheWoobie:
** Emma's classmates blame her for the prom getting cancelled, and then when prom is back on, Emma goes to the gym [[spoiler:only to find it completely empty. The other kids, and Mrs Greene, conspired against her and tricked her into attending a fake prom by herself. It's heartbreaking.]]
** Alyssa is closeted due to her homophobic mother and classmates despite wanting to come out, and is reduced to tears in more than one scene.
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** "Love Thy Neighbor" is very far from a realistic HeelFaceTurn, but it also gives [[the film's only musical comedy Broadway star Creator/AndrewRannells]] the chance to shine.
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** "Love Thy Neighbor" is very far from a realistic HeelFaceTurn, but it also gives [[the the film's only musical comedy Broadway star Creator/AndrewRannells]] Creator/AndrewRannell the chance to shine.
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**** of course, the reverse could just as easily be said. The kids are just thoughtlessly repeating unexamined prejudices they inherited from their parents. Emma was their good friend until a few months ago, and their age cohort is much more likely to be open to change. Mrs. Greene, on the other hand, is actively leading an anti-gay movement and organizing the bullying of Emma herself. She is an adult with deeply entrenched and actively cruel and homophobic views. It’s not realistic that she’s open to a discussion at the end of the play, but the film changing that to her flipping into acceptance like a light switch is definitely a lot to swallow.
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Truth in Television isn't even a YMMV item.
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* TruthInTelevision: Principal Hawkins' ordeal in assisting Emma. LGBTQ+ allies are often "advised" (and/or ordered) to avoid even just discussing non-conforming gender identities. Those who defy this can be accused of grooming young adults into inappropriate behavior (the "they're too young to know better" argument). This leads to children and young adults, already struggling with their identity, being isolated and deprived of support, while the adult allies are forced to watch as students they're supposed to be guiding go through daily agony.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Some critics expressed bewilderment at Creator/KerryWashington's casting as a homophobic, Fox News-esque PTA head. A person's ethnicity does not prevent them from being bigoted towards minority groups that they don't belong to. Theere are several high profile minority conservative, like Candace Owens.
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* TruthInTelevision:
** Principal Hawkins' ordeal in assisting Emma. LGBTQ+ allies are often "advised" (and/or ordered) to avoid even just discussing non-conforming gender identities. Those who defy this can be accused of grooming young adults into inappropriate behavior (the "they're too young to know better" argument). This leads to children and young adults, already struggling with their identity, being isolated and deprived of support, while the adult allies are forced to watch as students they're supposed to be guiding go through daily agony.
** As mentioned in SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped, ethnicity does not mean an automatic pass on being prejudiced.
** Principal Hawkins' ordeal in assisting Emma. LGBTQ+ allies are often "advised" (and/or ordered) to avoid even just discussing non-conforming gender identities. Those who defy this can be accused of grooming young adults into inappropriate behavior (the "they're too young to know better" argument). This leads to children and young adults, already struggling with their identity, being isolated and deprived of support, while the adult allies are forced to watch as students they're supposed to be guiding go through daily agony.
** As mentioned in SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped, ethnicity does not mean an automatic pass on being prejudiced.
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* TruthInTelevision:
**TruthInTelevision: Principal Hawkins' ordeal in assisting Emma. LGBTQ+ allies are often "advised" (and/or ordered) to avoid even just discussing non-conforming gender identities. Those who defy this can be accused of grooming young adults into inappropriate behavior (the "they're too young to know better" argument). This leads to children and young adults, already struggling with their identity, being isolated and deprived of support, while the adult allies are forced to watch as students they're supposed to be guiding go through daily agony.
** As mentioned in SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped, ethnicity does not mean an automatic pass on being prejudiced.agony.
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** As mentioned in SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped, ethnicity does not mean an automatic pass on being prejudiced.
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** Several viewers noted that Ellen Jo Perlman's status as a PerpetualSmiler didn't gel well with Emma's status as TheWoobie. Some have even said that costar Ariana [=DeBose=] would've been better suited for the part due to her more head on handling of the emotional scenes.
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** Several viewers noted that Ellen Jo Perlman's Pellman's status as a PerpetualSmiler didn't gel well with Emma's status as TheWoobie. Some have even said that costar Ariana [=DeBose=] would've been better suited for the part due to her more head on handling of the emotional scenes.scenes.
*** Granted, Pellman seems to be {{Misblamed}} for the situation - interviews have stated that she initially portrayed Emma with a more serious tone, [[ExecutiveMeddling until Ryan Murphy told her to change it]].
*** Granted, Pellman seems to be {{Misblamed}} for the situation - interviews have stated that she initially portrayed Emma with a more serious tone, [[ExecutiveMeddling until Ryan Murphy told her to change it]].
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* ActorShipping: The shipping of Caitlin Kinnunen and Isabelle [=McCalla=], who play onstage OfficialCouple Emma and Alyssa, has occasionally gotten out of hand. Their strong friendship, physical comfort with each other, and goofy antics (including a tendency to kiss each other in public for fun), as well as both actors confirming their bisexuality, have unfortunately only made the fandom obsession worse.
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* ActorShipping: The shipping of Caitlin Kinnunen and Isabelle [=McCalla=], who play onstage OfficialCouple Emma and Alyssa, has occasionally gotten out of hand. Alyssa. Their strong friendship, physical comfort with each other, and goofy antics (including a tendency to kiss each other in public for fun), as well as both actors confirming their bisexuality, have unfortunately only made the fandom obsession worse.not gone unnoticed by fans.
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** The novelization changes Alyssa from lesbian to pansexual, which [[https://twitter.com/SaundraMitchell/status/1120423902751096839 has upset some fans to say the least]].
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** James Corden as Barry continues to divide the fanbase. Some fans are hurt and offended that he is (presumably) straight and playing an out gay man, making it look stereotypical. Some believe he turned in a surprisingly good performance. Some TakeAThirdOption, arguing that his portrayal is problematic ''and'' moving at the same time. Others still argue that he's being partially {{misblamed}}, since it's not like he wrote the script or directed the film, and the hatred towards him is disproportionate.[[note]]The casting opened discussion about straight actors in such roles, comparing it to whitewashing or ciswashing (casting cisgender actors to play {{Transgender}} roles), but many LGBT industry people actually refuted this - pointing out that sexuality is internal and it would be more of a problem if LGB actors weren't getting seen for straight roles - and a performance being stereotypical or offensive doesn't necessarily depend [[OffendingTheCreatorsOwn on the sexuality of the actor]]. Besides, it's actually illegal to ask someone their sexuality in an audition environment or use it as a basis for hiring them - although of course that's not really an issue with big names who are open about their sexuality. Ultimately it's an issue that's very much a personal preference that will likely never get a decisive statement on.[[/note]]
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** James Corden as Barry continues to divide the fanbase. Some fans are hurt and offended that he is (presumably) straight and playing an out gay man, making it look stereotypical. Some believe he turned in a surprisingly good performance. Some TakeAThirdOption, arguing that his portrayal is problematic ''and'' moving at the same time. Others still argue that he's being partially {{misblamed}}, since it's not like he wrote the script or directed the film, and the hatred towards him is disproportionate.[[note]]The casting opened discussion about straight actors in such roles, comparing it to whitewashing or ciswashing (casting cisgender actors to play {{Transgender}} UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} roles), but many LGBT industry people actually refuted this - pointing out that sexuality is internal and it would be more of a problem if LGB actors weren't getting seen for straight roles - and a performance being stereotypical or offensive doesn't necessarily depend [[OffendingTheCreatorsOwn on the sexuality of the actor]]. Besides, it's actually illegal to ask someone their sexuality in an audition environment or use it as a basis for hiring them - although of course that's not really an issue with big names who are open about their sexuality. Ultimately it's an issue that's very much a personal preference that will likely never get a decisive statement on.[[/note]]
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** During "The Lady's Improving", four students called in to the principal's office watch Dede's song and get so into it that they then actively help her with the choreography. [[SarcasmMode As high school trouble makers are one to do]].
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** During "The Lady's Improving", four students called in to the principal's office watch Dede's song and get so into it that they then actively help her with the choreography. [[SarcasmMode As high school trouble makers are one to do]]. And like several other moments listed, this is played 100% straight.
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* AwardSnub: An inversion, as James Corden was nominated at the film's sole representative at the Golden Globes even though his performance was one of the most harshly criticized aspects of the film.
** During "The Lady's Improving", four students called in to the principal's office watch Dede's song and get so into it that they then actively help her with the choreography. [[SarcasmMode As high school trouble makers are one to do]].
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** "Love Thy Neighbor" is very far from a realistic HeelFaceTurn, but it also gives Creator/AndrewRannells the chance to show everyone else in the cast how musical comedy is supposed to be done.
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** "Love Thy Neighbor" is very far from a realistic HeelFaceTurn, but it also gives Creator/AndrewRannells the chance to show everyone else in the cast how [[the film's only musical comedy is supposed Broadway star Creator/AndrewRannells]] the chance to be done.shine.
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** Doesn't help that the film censors all bad language from the state show, meaning the little grit that was in a cutesy musical is all but gone here.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Trent blames the students' "general lack of apathy" on the school's lack of a drama program. This is actually enforced by the fact that Mr. Hawkins, the only person in school who supports Emma, is an avid theatergoer.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Trent blames the students' "general lack of apathy" empathy" on the school's lack of a drama program. This is actually enforced by the fact that Mr. Hawkins, the only person in school who supports Emma, is an avid theatergoer.
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** It can be harder to take the movie's drama seriously when our main character almost never stops smiling.
