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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Sarren]] is the most evil and savage monster in a post-apocalyptic world ruled by vampires. He delights in targeting innocents and [[ColdBloodedTorture cold-bloodedly torturing]] his enemies to death or [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwash them to kill their loved ones for him]]. The methods he uses to indoctrinate his pawns include turning them into vampires, then [[HorrorHunger starving them]] and setting them on women and children. After his vampire sire Kanin and Malachai Crosse try to experiment on him to find a cure for the Red Lung virus that wiped out most of humanity, he tracks down and kills every single scientist who worked on it, [[DisproportionateRetribution along with their families]]. When he arrives in Eden to get the cure, he unleashes mindless mutants called Rabids on the island's population, killing hundreds of people. Ultimately, he wants to use a modified version of the Red Lung virus to [[OmnicidalManiac wipe out both humans and vampires completely]].

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* CompleteMonster: CompleteMonster (series-wide): [[BigBad Sarren]] is the most evil and savage monster in a post-apocalyptic world ruled by vampires. He delights in targeting innocents and [[ColdBloodedTorture cold-bloodedly torturing]] his enemies to death or [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwash them to kill their loved ones for him]]. The methods he uses to indoctrinate his pawns include turning them into vampires, then [[HorrorHunger starving them]] and setting them on women and children. After his vampire sire Kanin and Malachai Crosse try to experiment on him to find a cure for the Red Lung virus that wiped out most of humanity, he tracks down and kills every single scientist who worked on it, [[DisproportionateRetribution along with their families]].families. When he arrives in Eden to get the cure, he unleashes mindless mutants called Rabids on the island's population, killing hundreds of people. Ultimately, he wants to use a modified version of the Red Lung virus to [[OmnicidalManiac wipe out both humans and vampires completely]].

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* CompleteMonster: Jackal...oh God, Jackal. He sent his bandit army after Jebediah's small group---which included elderly and children---again and again, slowly whittling them down due to stress and fear. All of this so that he can captured Jebediah himself who [[spoiler: is the grandson of one of the scientists who accidently created the rabids. All so that Jackal can find a cure.]] This almost paints him as a WellIntentionedExtremist except that his reason for wanting to [[spoiler: find a cure is so that he can create an army of vampires out of his bandit horde, and use it to "rule the world for all time". His first actions after capturing Jeb's group is to feed Darren to a group of rabids while the men and women of his gang cheer.]]. And had Jeb not broken down and agreed to help him, he would have done this to the children!

** His backstory makes his actions even more heinous. [[spoiler: He was turned into a vampire under similar circumstances as Allison by Kanin; his family had been slaughtered by bandits and he was dying as well. Now as the leader of a bandit army of his own, he's undoubtedly ordered and even committed atricites just as bad or worse than the criminals that destroyed his human life.]]

** Sarren is arguably even ''more'' of a CompleteMonster. While his desire for {{Revenge}} against Kanin and Malachai Crosse is certainly understandable after [[StrappedToAnOperatingTable what they did to him]], his torture of Kanin's spawn and murder of the families of every single scientist who worked on [[spoiler: the Red Lung cure]] is particularly vicious DisproportionateRetribution. He sets up shop in New Covington in the second book, using it as [[spoiler: testing grounds for a new Red Lung virus]]. Upon finding that [[spoiler: Eden]] has a cure for Red Lung, he tortures [[spoiler: Zeke]] to the point where he begs for a MercyKill to find out where [[spoiler: Eden]] is, and kills [[spoiler: him]] immediately afterward. When Allison, Kanin, and [[spoiler: Jackal]] begin hunting him down, he kills absolutely every person he finds on the way, women and children included, in order to force them off his trail. [[spoiler: He also turned Zeke after killing him, brainwashing him into having a similar personality to himself, and leaves him in Old Chicago to kill Allison, solely because he knows it will cause her pain. The methods he used to "train" Zeke are particularly sickening, and include starving him and ''locking him in a barn with women and kids,'' with [[HorrorHunger predictable results]]. When Zeke recovers from his brainwashing, he has ''serious'' emotional issues, which Sarren exploits by flaying some random people and leaving them in a semi trailer for him to find, simply to mess with him.]] Upon arriving in [[spoiler: Eden]], he unleashes a barge full of rabids on the island, forcing a total evacuation that killed hundreds of people. And ''why'' is he doing all this? [[spoiler: He's going to use a modified Red Lung virus to [[OmnicidalManiac wipe out both humans and vampires]], and he wants to destroy the cure.]] His reasons for [[MindRape emotionally torturing]] his enemies, however, seems to boil down to [[ForTheEvulz simple cruelty]].

* StrawmanHasAPoint: Ruth, one of the few members of Jebediah's group that distrusts Allison and the only one who outright dislikes her is portrayed as a petulant, petty and outright spiteful human being, which she ''is''. However she makes several valid points about Allison's odd behavior and exaggerated reluctance to tell even the smallest parts of her history, which are brushed off by most people. And it is her investigative skills which ultimately [[spoiler: unmask Allison as a vampire]].

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* CompleteMonster: Jackal...oh God, Jackal. He sent his bandit army after Jebediah's small group---which included elderly and children---again and again, slowly whittling them down due to stress and fear. All of this so that he can captured Jebediah himself who [[spoiler: [[BigBad Sarren]] is the grandson of one of the scientists who accidently created the rabids. All so that Jackal can find a cure.]] This almost paints him as a WellIntentionedExtremist except that his reason for wanting to [[spoiler: find a cure is so that he can create an army of vampires out of his bandit horde, most evil and use it to "rule the savage monster in a post-apocalyptic world ruled by vampires. He delights in targeting innocents and [[ColdBloodedTorture cold-bloodedly torturing]] his enemies to death or [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwash them to kill their loved ones for all time". His first actions after capturing Jeb's group is him]]. The methods he uses to feed Darren to a group of rabids while the men indoctrinate his pawns include turning them into vampires, then [[HorrorHunger starving them]] and setting them on women of and children. After his gang cheer.]]. And had Jeb not broken down and agreed to help him, he would have done this to the children!

** His backstory makes his actions even more heinous. [[spoiler: He was turned into a
vampire under similar circumstances as Allison by Kanin; his family had been slaughtered by bandits and he was dying as well. Now as the leader of a bandit army of his own, he's undoubtedly ordered and even committed atricites just as bad or worse than the criminals that destroyed his human life.]]

** Sarren is arguably even ''more'' of a CompleteMonster. While his desire for {{Revenge}} against
sire Kanin and Malachai Crosse is certainly understandable after [[StrappedToAnOperatingTable what they did try to him]], his torture experiment on him to find a cure for the Red Lung virus that wiped out most of Kanin's spawn humanity, he tracks down and murder of the families of kills every single scientist who worked on [[spoiler: the Red Lung cure]] is particularly vicious DisproportionateRetribution. He sets up shop in New Covington in the second book, using it as [[spoiler: testing grounds for a new Red Lung virus]]. Upon finding that [[spoiler: Eden]] has a cure for Red Lung, he tortures [[spoiler: Zeke]] to the point where he begs for a MercyKill to find out where [[spoiler: Eden]] is, and kills [[spoiler: him]] immediately afterward. it, [[DisproportionateRetribution along with their families]]. When Allison, Kanin, and [[spoiler: Jackal]] begin hunting him down, he kills absolutely every person he finds on arrives in Eden to get the way, women and children included, in order to force them off his trail. [[spoiler: He also turned Zeke after killing him, brainwashing him into having a similar personality to himself, and leaves him in Old Chicago to kill Allison, solely because he knows it will cause her pain. The methods he used to "train" Zeke are particularly sickening, and include starving him and ''locking him in a barn with women and kids,'' with [[HorrorHunger predictable results]]. When Zeke recovers from his brainwashing, he has ''serious'' emotional issues, which Sarren exploits by flaying some random people and leaving them in a semi trailer for him to find, simply to mess with him.]] Upon arriving in [[spoiler: Eden]], cure, he unleashes a barge full of rabids mindless mutants called Rabids on the island, forcing a total evacuation that killed island's population, killing hundreds of people. And ''why'' is Ultimately, he doing all this? [[spoiler: He's going wants to use a modified version of the Red Lung virus to [[OmnicidalManiac wipe out both humans and vampires]], and he wants vampires completely]].
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to destroy the cure.]] His reasons for [[MindRape emotionally torturing]] his enemies, however, seems to boil down to [[ForTheEvulz simple cruelty]].

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Ruth, one of the few members of Jebediah's group that distrusts Allison and the only one who outright dislikes her is portrayed as a petulant, petty and outright spiteful human being, which she ''is''. However she makes several valid points about Allison's odd behavior and exaggerated reluctance to tell even the smallest parts of her history, which are brushed off by most people. And it is her investigative skills which ultimately [[spoiler: unmask Allison as a vampire]].vampire]].
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** Sarren is arguably even ''more'' of a CompleteMonster. While his desire for {{Revenge}} against Kanin and Malachai Crosse is certainly understandable after [[StrappedToAnOperatingTable what they did to him]], his torture of Kanin's spawn and murder of the families of every single scientist who worked on [[spoiler: the Red Lung cure]] is particularly vicious DisproportionateRetribution. He sets up shop in New Covington in the second book, using it as [[spoiler: testing grounds for a new Red Lung virus]]. Upon finding that [[spoiler: Eden]] has a cure for Red Lung, he tortures [[spoiler: Zeke]] to the point where he begs for a MercyKill to find out where [[spoiler: Eden]] is, and kills [[spoiler: him]] immediately afterward. When Allison, Kanin, and [[spoiler: Jackal]] begin hunting him down, he kills absolutely every person he finds on the way, women and children included, in order to force them off his trail. [[spoiler: He also turned Zeke after killing him, brainwashing him into having a similar personality to himself, and leaves him in Old Chicago to kill Allison, solely because he knows it will cause her pain. The methods he used to "train" Zeke are particularly sickening, and include starving him and ''locking him in a barn with women and kids,'' with [[HorrorHunger predictable results. When Zeke recovers from his brainwashing, he has ''serious'' emotional issues, which Sarren exploits by flaying some random people and leaving them in a semi trailer for him to find, simply to mess with him.]] Upon arriving in [[spoiler: Eden]], he unleashes a barge full of rabids on the island, forcing a total evacuation that killed hundreds of people. And ''why'' is he doing all this? [[spoiler: He's going to use a modified Red Lung virus to [[OmnicidalManiac wipe out both humans and vampires]], and he wants to destroy the cure.]] His reasons for [[MindRape emotionally torturing]] his enemies, however, seems to boil down to [[ForTheEvulz simple cruelty]].

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** Sarren is arguably even ''more'' of a CompleteMonster. While his desire for {{Revenge}} against Kanin and Malachai Crosse is certainly understandable after [[StrappedToAnOperatingTable what they did to him]], his torture of Kanin's spawn and murder of the families of every single scientist who worked on [[spoiler: the Red Lung cure]] is particularly vicious DisproportionateRetribution. He sets up shop in New Covington in the second book, using it as [[spoiler: testing grounds for a new Red Lung virus]]. Upon finding that [[spoiler: Eden]] has a cure for Red Lung, he tortures [[spoiler: Zeke]] to the point where he begs for a MercyKill to find out where [[spoiler: Eden]] is, and kills [[spoiler: him]] immediately afterward. When Allison, Kanin, and [[spoiler: Jackal]] begin hunting him down, he kills absolutely every person he finds on the way, women and children included, in order to force them off his trail. [[spoiler: He also turned Zeke after killing him, brainwashing him into having a similar personality to himself, and leaves him in Old Chicago to kill Allison, solely because he knows it will cause her pain. The methods he used to "train" Zeke are particularly sickening, and include starving him and ''locking him in a barn with women and kids,'' with [[HorrorHunger predictable results.results]]. When Zeke recovers from his brainwashing, he has ''serious'' emotional issues, which Sarren exploits by flaying some random people and leaving them in a semi trailer for him to find, simply to mess with him.]] Upon arriving in [[spoiler: Eden]], he unleashes a barge full of rabids on the island, forcing a total evacuation that killed hundreds of people. And ''why'' is he doing all this? [[spoiler: He's going to use a modified Red Lung virus to [[OmnicidalManiac wipe out both humans and vampires]], and he wants to destroy the cure.]] His reasons for [[MindRape emotionally torturing]] his enemies, however, seems to boil down to [[ForTheEvulz simple cruelty]].

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** Sarren is arguably even ''more'' of a CompleteMonster. While his desire for {{Revenge}} against Kanin and Malach
ai Crosse is certainly understandable after [[StrappedToAnOperatingTable what they did to him]], his torture of Kanin's spawn and murder of the families of every single scientist who worked on [[spoiler: the Red Lung cure]] is particularly vicious DisproportionateRetribution. He sets up shop in New Covington in the second book, using it as [[spoiler: testing grounds for a new Red Lung virus]]. Upon finding that [[spoiler: Eden]] has a cure for Red Lung, he tortures [[spoiler: Zeke]] to the point where he begs for a MercyKill to find out where [[spoiler: Eden]] is, and kills [[spoiler: him]] immediately afterward. When Allison, Kanin, and [[spoiler: Jackal]] begin hunting him down, he kills absolutely every person he finds on the way, women and children included, in order to force them off his trail. [[spoiler: He also turned Zeke after killing him, brainwashing him into having a similar personality to himself, and leaves him in Old Chicago to kill Allison, solely because he knows it will cause her pain. The methods he used to "train" Zeke are particularly sickening, and include starving him and ''locking him in a barn with women and kids,'' with [[HorrorHunger predictable results. When Zeke recovers from his brainwashing, he has ''serious'' emotional issues, which Sarren exploits by flaying some random people and leaving them in a semi trailer for him to find, simply to mess with him.]] Upon arriving in [[spoiler: Eden]], he unleashes a barge full of rabids on the island, forcing a total evacuation that killed hundreds of people. And ''why'' is he doing all this? [[He's going to use a modified Red Lung virus to [[OmnicidalManiac wipe out both humans and vampires]], and he wants to destroy the cure.]] His reasons for [[MindRape emotionally torturing]] his enemies, however, seems to boil down to [[ForTheEvulz simple cruelty]].

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** Sarren is arguably even ''more'' of a CompleteMonster. While his desire for {{Revenge}} against Kanin and Malach
ai
Malachai Crosse is certainly understandable after [[StrappedToAnOperatingTable what they did to him]], his torture of Kanin's spawn and murder of the families of every single scientist who worked on [[spoiler: the Red Lung cure]] is particularly vicious DisproportionateRetribution. He sets up shop in New Covington in the second book, using it as [[spoiler: testing grounds for a new Red Lung virus]]. Upon finding that [[spoiler: Eden]] has a cure for Red Lung, he tortures [[spoiler: Zeke]] to the point where he begs for a MercyKill to find out where [[spoiler: Eden]] is, and kills [[spoiler: him]] immediately afterward. When Allison, Kanin, and [[spoiler: Jackal]] begin hunting him down, he kills absolutely every person he finds on the way, women and children included, in order to force them off his trail. [[spoiler: He also turned Zeke after killing him, brainwashing him into having a similar personality to himself, and leaves him in Old Chicago to kill Allison, solely because he knows it will cause her pain. The methods he used to "train" Zeke are particularly sickening, and include starving him and ''locking him in a barn with women and kids,'' with [[HorrorHunger predictable results. When Zeke recovers from his brainwashing, he has ''serious'' emotional issues, which Sarren exploits by flaying some random people and leaving them in a semi trailer for him to find, simply to mess with him.]] Upon arriving in [[spoiler: Eden]], he unleashes a barge full of rabids on the island, forcing a total evacuation that killed hundreds of people. And ''why'' is he doing all this? [[He's [[spoiler: He's going to use a modified Red Lung virus to [[OmnicidalManiac wipe out both humans and vampires]], and he wants to destroy the cure.]] His reasons for [[MindRape emotionally torturing]] his enemies, however, seems to boil down to [[ForTheEvulz simple cruelty]].
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** Sarren is arguably even ''more'' of a CompleteMonster. While his desire for {{Revenge}} against Kanin and Malach
ai Crosse is certainly understandable after [[StrappedToAnOperatingTable what they did to him]], his torture of Kanin's spawn and murder of the families of every single scientist who worked on [[spoiler: the Red Lung cure]] is particularly vicious DisproportionateRetribution. He sets up shop in New Covington in the second book, using it as [[spoiler: testing grounds for a new Red Lung virus]]. Upon finding that [[spoiler: Eden]] has a cure for Red Lung, he tortures [[spoiler: Zeke]] to the point where he begs for a MercyKill to find out where [[spoiler: Eden]] is, and kills [[spoiler: him]] immediately afterward. When Allison, Kanin, and [[spoiler: Jackal]] begin hunting him down, he kills absolutely every person he finds on the way, women and children included, in order to force them off his trail. [[spoiler: He also turned Zeke after killing him, brainwashing him into having a similar personality to himself, and leaves him in Old Chicago to kill Allison, solely because he knows it will cause her pain. The methods he used to "train" Zeke are particularly sickening, and include starving him and ''locking him in a barn with women and kids,'' with [[HorrorHunger predictable results. When Zeke recovers from his brainwashing, he has ''serious'' emotional issues, which Sarren exploits by flaying some random people and leaving them in a semi trailer for him to find, simply to mess with him.]] Upon arriving in [[spoiler: Eden]], he unleashes a barge full of rabids on the island, forcing a total evacuation that killed hundreds of people. And ''why'' is he doing all this? [[He's going to use a modified Red Lung virus to [[OmnicidalManiac wipe out both humans and vampires]], and he wants to destroy the cure.]] His reasons for [[MindRape emotionally torturing]] his enemies, however, seems to boil down to [[ForTheEvulz simple cruelty]].

* StrawmanHasAPoint: Ruth, one of the few members of Jebediah's group that distrusts Allison and the only one who outright dislikes her is portrayed as a petulant, petty and outright spiteful human being, which she ''is''. However she makes several valid points about Allison's odd behavior and exaggerated reluctance to tell even the smallest parts of her history, which are brushed off by most people. And it is her investigative skills which ultimately [[spoiler: unmask Allison as a vampire]].
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* CompleteMonster: Jackal...oh God, Jackal. He sent his bandit army after Jebediah's small group---which included elderly and children---again and again, slowly whittling them down due to stress and fear. All of this so that he can captured Jebediah himself who [[spoiler: is the grandson of one of the scientists who accidently created the rabids. All so that Jackal can find a cure.]] This almost paints him as a WellIntentionedExtremist except that his reason for wanting to [[spoiler: find a cure is so that he can create an army of vampires out of his bandit horde, and use it to "rule the world for all time". His first actions after capturing Jeb's group is to feed Darren to a group of rabids while the men and women of his gang cheer.]]. And had Jeb not broken down and agreed to help him, he would have done this to the children!

** His backstory makes his actions even more heinous. [[spoiler: He was turned into a vampire under similar circumstances as Allison by Kanin; his family had been slaughtered by bandits and he was dying as well. Now as the leader of a bandit army of his own, he's undoubtedly ordered and even committed atricites just as bad or worse than the criminals that destroyed his human life.]]

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