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* IKnewIt: Yet several fans still guessed that Zoom was going to be a version of this Jay Garrick/Hunter Zolomon.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Earth-2 being closed off for good with Zoom as a KarmaHoudini. If nothing else, we already know full well that Barry will be busy fighting him during the mysterious funeral in the concurrent season of''Arrow''.''Arrow''.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Cisco offers to make some improvements to Diggle's helmet, after the design got a decidedly mixed reaction from fans. He doesn't even have to ask what's wrong with it, like he knows full well it was far from his best work.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Caitlin pretending to be Killer Frost to mess with Cisco becomes less amusing after season three rolls around and the possibility it could happen for real becomes one of her biggest fears.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: HarsherInHindsight: Caitlin pretending to be Killer Frost to mess with Cisco becomes less amusing after season three rolls around and the possibility it could happen for real becomes one of her biggest fears.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Caitlin pretending to be Killer Frost to mess with Cisco becomes less amusing after season three rolls around and the possibility it could happen for real becomes one of her biggest fears.
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Earth-2 being closed off for good with Zoom as a KarmaHoudini. If nothing else, we already know full well that Barry will be busy fighting him during the mysterious funeral in the concurrent season of ''Arrow''.
* RecycledScript: In Season One, we are introduced to Dr. Harrison Wells. However, in the second half of the season he's revealed to in fact be Professor Eobard Thawne, aka the Reverse-Flash, aka the man in the yellow suit who ''killed Barry's mother''. Faux-Wells becomes a sort of mentor figure to Barry, and fakes not having Speed Force potential by rolling around in a wheelchair, but sometimes leaks details about the Speed Force that he shouldn't know. He also had the ability to create "speed mirages" to fool everyone into thinking he and Reverse-Flash were different people. Come Season Two, Thawne dies and we are introduced to yet another mentor for Barry, Jay Garrick (the Flash of Earth-2). He arrives to warn Barry about an incoming threat in the form of Zoom, an evil speedster who is Jay's arch-nemesis who steals speed (as he apparently did with Jay). Throughout the season, he is shown to have no Speed Force potential in his blood, rendering him powerless thanks to Zoom's machinations. In the previous episode, we see Zoom's arm go right through Jay just before the main breach closes, pulling him in as it does so. In this episode (which just happens to be in the second half of the season), Zoom dumps Jay's body in his makeshift prison, and finally pulls his mask off, revealed to be...someone who looks and sounds a lot like Jay. [[WordOfGod Executive producer Andrew Kriesberg even admitted]] [[http://www.ew.com/article/2016/02/23/flash-zoom-identity-jay-garrick-hunter-zolomon it's practically the same]].
** Another worthy detail to note is that both Reverse-Flash and Zoom decidedly distort their voices to the point of being unrecognizable as their civilian identities. However, while the producers retained Tom Cavanagh and his voice for Reverse-Flash/Thawne, they hired Tony Todd to be CastAsAMask in order to further the mystery behind Zoom. For the most part, it was probably as shocking a WhamShot when Zoom revealed himself as it was for Thawne to reveal himself.
* RecycledScript: In Season One, we are introduced to Dr. Harrison Wells. However, in the second half of the season he's revealed to in fact be Professor Eobard Thawne, aka the Reverse-Flash, aka the man in the yellow suit who ''killed Barry's mother''. Faux-Wells becomes a sort of mentor figure to Barry, and fakes not having Speed Force potential by rolling around in a wheelchair, but sometimes leaks details about the Speed Force that he shouldn't know. He also had the ability to create "speed mirages" to fool everyone into thinking he and Reverse-Flash were different people. Come Season Two, Thawne dies and we are introduced to yet another mentor for Barry, Jay Garrick (the Flash of Earth-2). He arrives to warn Barry about an incoming threat in the form of Zoom, an evil speedster who is Jay's arch-nemesis who steals speed (as he apparently did with Jay). Throughout the season, he is shown to have no Speed Force potential in his blood, rendering him powerless thanks to Zoom's machinations. In the previous episode, we see Zoom's arm go right through Jay just before the main breach closes, pulling him in as it does so. In this episode (which just happens to be in the second half of the season), Zoom dumps Jay's body in his makeshift prison, and finally pulls his mask off, revealed to be...someone who looks and sounds a lot like Jay. [[WordOfGod Executive producer Andrew Kriesberg even admitted]] [[http://www.ew.com/article/2016/02/23/flash-zoom-identity-jay-garrick-hunter-zolomon it's practically the same]].
** Another worthy detail to note is that both Reverse-Flash and Zoom decidedly distort their voices to the point of being unrecognizable as their civilian identities. However, while the producers retained Tom Cavanagh and his voice for Reverse-Flash/Thawne, they hired Tony Todd to be CastAsAMask in order to further the mystery behind Zoom. For the most part, it was probably as shocking a WhamShot when Zoom revealed himself as it was for Thawne to reveal himself.
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Earth-2 being closed off for good with Zoom as a KarmaHoudini. If nothing else, we already know full well that Barry will be busy fighting him during the mysterious funeral in the concurrent season of ''Arrow''. \n* RecycledScript: In Season One, we are introduced to Dr. Harrison Wells. However, in the second half of the season he's revealed to in fact be Professor Eobard Thawne, aka the Reverse-Flash, aka the man in the yellow suit who ''killed Barry's mother''. Faux-Wells becomes a sort of mentor figure to Barry, and fakes not having Speed Force potential by rolling around in a wheelchair, but sometimes leaks details about the Speed Force that he shouldn't know. He also had the ability to create "speed mirages" to fool everyone into thinking he and Reverse-Flash were different people. Come Season Two, Thawne dies and we are introduced to yet another mentor for Barry, Jay Garrick (the Flash of Earth-2). He arrives to warn Barry about an incoming threat in the form of Zoom, an evil speedster who is Jay's arch-nemesis who steals speed (as he apparently did with Jay). Throughout the season, he is shown to have no Speed Force potential in his blood, rendering him powerless thanks to Zoom's machinations. In the previous episode, we see Zoom's arm go right through Jay just before the main breach closes, pulling him in as it does so. In this episode (which just happens to be in the second half of the season), Zoom dumps Jay's body in his makeshift prison, and finally pulls his mask off, revealed to be...someone who looks and sounds a lot like Jay. [[WordOfGod Executive producer Andrew Kriesberg even admitted]] [[http://www.ew.com/article/2016/02/23/flash-zoom-identity-jay-garrick-hunter-zolomon it's practically the same]]. \n** Another worthy detail to note is that both Reverse-Flash and Zoom decidedly distort their voices to the point of being unrecognizable as their civilian identities. However, while the producers retained Tom Cavanagh and his voice for Reverse-Flash/Thawne, they hired Tony Todd to be CastAsAMask in order to further the mystery behind Zoom. For the most part, it was probably as shocking a WhamShot when Zoom revealed himself as it was for Thawne to reveal himself.
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* RecycledScript: In Season One, we are introduced to Dr. Harrison Wells. However, in the second half of the season he's revealed to in fact be Professor Eobard Thawne, aka the Reverse-Flash, aka the man in the yellow suit who ''killed Barry's mother''. Faux-Wells becomes a sort of mentor figure to Barry, and fakes not having Speed Force potential by rolling around in a wheelchair, but sometimes leaks details about the Speed Force that he shouldn't know. He also had the ability to create "speed mirages" to fool everyone into thinking he and Reverse-Flash were different people. Come Season Two, Thawne dies and we are introduced to yet another mentor for Barry, Jay Garrick (the Flash of Earth-2). He arrives to warn Barry about an incoming threat in the form of Zoom, an evil speedster who is Jay's arch-nemesis who steals speed (as he apparently did with Jay). Throughout the season, he is shown to have no Speed Force potential in his blood, rendering him powerless thanks to Zoom's machinations. In the previous episode, we see Zoom's arm go right through Jay just before the main breach closes, pulling him in as it does so. In this episode (which just happens to be in the second half of the season), Zoom dumps Jay's body in his makeshift prison, and finally pulls his mask off, revealed to be...someone who looks and sounds a lot like Jay.
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* RecycledScript: In Season One, we are introduced to Dr. Harrison Wells. However, in the second half of the season he's revealed to in fact be Professor Eobard Thawne, aka the Reverse-Flash, aka the man in the yellow suit who ''killed Barry's mother''. Faux-Wells becomes a sort of mentor figure to Barry, and fakes not having Speed Force potential by rolling around in a wheelchair, but sometimes leaks details about the Speed Force that he shouldn't know. He also had the ability to create "speed mirages" to fool everyone into thinking he and Reverse-Flash were different people. Come Season Two, Thawne dies and we are introduced to yet another mentor for Barry, Jay Garrick (the Flash of Earth-2). He arrives to warn Barry about an incoming threat in the form of Zoom, an evil speedster who is Jay's arch-nemesis who steals speed (as he apparently did with Jay). Throughout the season, he is shown to have no Speed Force potential in his blood, rendering him powerless thanks to Zoom's machinations. In the previous episode, we see Zoom's arm go right through Jay just before the main breach closes, pulling him in as it does so. In this episode (which just happens to be in the second half of the season), Zoom dumps Jay's body in his makeshift prison, and finally pulls his mask off, revealed to be...someone who looks and sounds a lot like Jay. [[WordOfGod Executive producer Andrew Kriesberg even admitted]] [[http://www.ew.com/article/2016/02/23/flash-zoom-identity-jay-garrick-hunter-zolomon it's practically the same]].
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Earth-2 being closed off for good with Zoom as a KarmaHoudini. If nothing else, we already know full well that Barry will be busy fighting him during the mysterious funeral in the concurrent season of ''Arrow''.
* RecycledScript: In Season One, we are introduced to Dr. Harrison Wells. However, in the second half of the season he's revealed to in fact be Professor Eobard Thawne, aka the Reverse-Flash, aka the man in the yellow suit who ''killed Barry's mother''. Faux-Wells becomes a sort of mentor figure to Barry, and fakes not having Speed Force potential by rolling around in a wheelchair, but sometimes leaks details about the Speed Force that he shouldn't know. He also had the ability to create "speed mirages" to fool everyone into thinking he and Reverse-Flash were different people. Come Season Two, Thawne dies and we are introduced to yet another mentor for Barry, Jay Garrick (the Flash of Earth-2). He arrives to warn Barry about an incoming threat in the form of Zoom, an evil speedster who is Jay's arch-nemesis who steals speed (as he apparently did with Jay). Throughout the season, he is shown to have no Speed Force potential in his blood, rendering him powerless thanks to Zoom's machinations. In the previous episode, we see Zoom's arm go right through Jay just before the main breach closes, pulling him in as it does so. In this episode (which just happens to be in the second half of the season), Zoom dumps Jay's body in his makeshift prison, and finally pulls his mask off, revealed to be...someone who looks and sounds a lot like Jay.
** Another worthy detail to note is that both Reverse-Flash and Zoom decidedly distort their voices to the point of being unrecognizable as their civilian identities. However, while the producers retained Tom Cavanagh and his voice for Reverse-Flash/Thawne, they hired Tony Todd to be CastAsAMask in order to further the mystery behind Zoom. For the most part, it was probably as shocking a WhamShot when Zoom revealed himself as it was for Thawne to reveal himself.
* RecycledScript: In Season One, we are introduced to Dr. Harrison Wells. However, in the second half of the season he's revealed to in fact be Professor Eobard Thawne, aka the Reverse-Flash, aka the man in the yellow suit who ''killed Barry's mother''. Faux-Wells becomes a sort of mentor figure to Barry, and fakes not having Speed Force potential by rolling around in a wheelchair, but sometimes leaks details about the Speed Force that he shouldn't know. He also had the ability to create "speed mirages" to fool everyone into thinking he and Reverse-Flash were different people. Come Season Two, Thawne dies and we are introduced to yet another mentor for Barry, Jay Garrick (the Flash of Earth-2). He arrives to warn Barry about an incoming threat in the form of Zoom, an evil speedster who is Jay's arch-nemesis who steals speed (as he apparently did with Jay). Throughout the season, he is shown to have no Speed Force potential in his blood, rendering him powerless thanks to Zoom's machinations. In the previous episode, we see Zoom's arm go right through Jay just before the main breach closes, pulling him in as it does so. In this episode (which just happens to be in the second half of the season), Zoom dumps Jay's body in his makeshift prison, and finally pulls his mask off, revealed to be...someone who looks and sounds a lot like Jay.
** Another worthy detail to note is that both Reverse-Flash and Zoom decidedly distort their voices to the point of being unrecognizable as their civilian identities. However, while the producers retained Tom Cavanagh and his voice for Reverse-Flash/Thawne, they hired Tony Todd to be CastAsAMask in order to further the mystery behind Zoom. For the most part, it was probably as shocking a WhamShot when Zoom revealed himself as it was for Thawne to reveal himself.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Oh boy, Hunter Zolomon. Changed from a nuanced, genuinely unstable, somewhat tragic villain, to a GenericDoomsdayVillain with what is probably the most cliched of motivations. Before this episode, Zoom was seen as somewhat lacking compared to Thawne, but this really cemented him as a disappointment, especially since the producers [[LyingCreator claimed]] that [[InNameOnly this Zoom was not Hunter Zolomon]], which had given fans of the character hope that a more comic-accurate version of Hunter would appear down the line.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Oh boy, Hunter Zolomon. Changed from a nuanced, genuinely unstable, somewhat tragic villain, to a GenericDoomsdayVillain with what is probably the most cliched of motivations. Before this episode, Zoom was seen as somewhat lacking compared to Thawne, but this really cemented him as a disappointment, especially since the producers [[LyingCreator claimed]] that [[InNameOnly this Zoom was not Hunter Zolomon]], which had given fans of the character hope that a more comic-accurate version of Hunter would appear down the line.
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Earth-2 being closed off for good with Zoom as a KarmaHoudini. If nothing else, we already know full well that Barry will be busy fighting him during the mysterious funeral in the concurrent season of ''Arrow''.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Oh boy, Hunter Zolomon. Changed from a nuanced, genuinely unstable, somewhat tragic villain, to a GenericDoomsdayVillain with what is probably the most cliched of motivations. Before this episode, Zoom was seen as somewhat lacking compared to Thawne, but this really cemented him as a disappointment, especially since the producers [[LyingCreator claimed]] that [[InNameOnly this Zoom was not Hunter Zolomon]], which had given fans of the character hope that a more comic-accurate version of Hunter would appear down the line.''Arrow''.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Oh boy, Hunter Zolomon. Changed from a nuanced, genuinely unstable, somewhat tragic villain, to a GenericDoomsdayVillain with what is probably the most cliched of motivations. Before this episode, Zoom was seen as somewhat lacking compared to Thawne, but this really cemented him as a disappointment, especially since the producers [[LyingCreator claimed]] that [[InNameOnly this Zoom was not Hunter Zolomon]], which had given fans of the character hope that a more comic-accurate version of Hunter would appear down the line.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Oh boy, Hunter Zolomon. Changed from a nuanced, genuinely unstable, somewhat tragic villain, to a GenericDoosdayVillain GenericDoomsdayVillain with what is probably the most cliched of motivations. Before this episode, Zoom was seen as somewhat lacking compared to Thawne, but this really cemented him as a disappointment, especially since the producers [[LyingCreator claimed]] that [[InNameOnly this Zoom was not Hunter Zolomon]], which had given fans of the character hope that a more comic-accurate version of Hunter would appear down the line.
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Earth-2 being closed off for good with Zoom as a KarmaHoudini. If nothing else, we already know full well that Barry will be busy fighting him during the mysterious funeral in the concurrent season of ''Arrow''.''Arrow''.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Oh boy, Hunter Zolomon. Changed from a nuanced, genuinely unstable, somewhat tragic villain, to a GenericDoosdayVillain with what is probably the most cliched of motivations. Before this episode, Zoom was seen as somewhat lacking compared to Thawne, but this really cemented him as a disappointment, especially since the producers [[LyingCreator claimed]] that [[InNameOnly this Zoom was not Hunter Zolomon]], which had given fans of the character hope that a more comic-accurate version of Hunter would appear down the line.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Oh boy, Hunter Zolomon. Changed from a nuanced, genuinely unstable, somewhat tragic villain, to a GenericDoosdayVillain with what is probably the most cliched of motivations. Before this episode, Zoom was seen as somewhat lacking compared to Thawne, but this really cemented him as a disappointment, especially since the producers [[LyingCreator claimed]] that [[InNameOnly this Zoom was not Hunter Zolomon]], which had given fans of the character hope that a more comic-accurate version of Hunter would appear down the line.
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