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* EvenBetterSequel: Fans and critics tend to rate this album more highly than ''Music/PrettyHateMachine''.
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* EvenBetterSequel: Fans While both ''Music/PrettyHateMachine'' and the ''Broken'' EP were well regarded, both fans and critics tend to rate regard ''The Downward Spiral'' as an even greater step up, leaning further into the industrial metal sound of ''Broken'' while also introducing a greater degree of artistry and complexity by incorporating elements of ProgressiveRock and {{Krautrock}}. Consequently, while ''Broken'' is seen as the point where Trent Reznor [[GrowingTheBeard grew the beard]], this album more highly than ''Music/PrettyHateMachine''.is considered the point where the beard reached its full bushiness.
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* EvenBetterSequel: Fans and critics tend to rate this album more highly than ''Music/PrettyHateMachine''.
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* NarmCharm: "Hurt" is this through and through. The lyrics are extremely {{Wangst}}-y... and yet they still really work anyway, especially if you've dealt with severe depression or know someone suffering from it.
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* {{Narm}}:
** "Closer" can drift into this territory if you happen to mistakenly hear the chorus' first line as "I wanna fuck you like an '''[[Series/SesameStreet Elmo]]'''!" You might try to listen to the song without picturing Elmo laughing in the background and cracking up.
** The line "I wear this crown of shit..." from "Hurt". Music/JohnnyCash decided to change it to the more effective "crown of thorns" for his cover of the song.
** "Closer" can drift into this territory if you happen to mistakenly hear the chorus' first line as "I wanna fuck you like an '''[[Series/SesameStreet Elmo]]'''!" You might try to listen to the song without picturing Elmo laughing in the background and cracking up.
** The line "I wear this crown of shit..." from "Hurt". Music/JohnnyCash decided to change it to the more effective "crown of thorns" for his cover of the song.
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** "Closer" is sometimes referred to as "Help me" (the most repeated line in the song) and "I wanna fuck you like an animal" (the most obvious and memorable line in the chorus). "You get me closer to God" (the chorus' last line, which is [[{{Pun}} closer]] to the actual title) is also included, which is not helped by the fact that the EP featuring remixes of the song (plus one of said remixes) ''is'' called ''Closer to God''.
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** "Closer" is sometimes referred to as "Help me" (the most repeated line in the song) and "I wanna fuck you like an animal" (the most obvious and memorable line in the chorus). "You get me closer to God" (the chorus' last line, which is [[{{Pun}} closer]] to the actual title) is also included, which is not helped by the fact that the EP single featuring remixes of the song (plus one of said remixes) ''is'' called ''Closer to God''.
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** "Closer" is sometimes referred to as "Help me" (the most repeated line in the song) and "I wanna fuck you like an animal" (the most obvious and memorable line in the chorus). "You get me closer to God" (the chorus' last line, which is [[{{Pun}} closer]] to the actual title) is also included, which is not helped by the fact that the EP featuring remixes of the song (plus one of said remixes) ''is'' called ''Closer to God''.
** While "Closer" at the very least contains its title somewhere in the lyrics, "Heresy" is most applicable to the trope, as it does not contain the word anywhere in the song and often gets referred to by a line from the chorus -- "God is dead" (or "Your god is dead").
** "Piggy" prominently repeats the line it's commonly misattributed as its title ("nothing can stop me now") at least twenty times, and only utters the actual title twice in the first verse. "Nothing can stop me now" is also used as a subtitle in a remix of the song.
** "Closer" is sometimes referred to as "Help me" (the most repeated line in the song) and "I wanna fuck you like an animal" (the most obvious and memorable line in the chorus). "You get me closer to God" (the chorus' last line, which is [[{{Pun}} closer]] to the actual title) is also included, which is not helped by the fact that the EP featuring remixes of the song (plus one of said remixes) ''is'' called ''Closer to God''.
** While "Closer" at the very least contains its title somewhere in the lyrics, "Heresy" is most applicable to the trope, as it does not contain the word anywhere in the song and often gets referred to by a line from the chorus -- "God is dead" (or "Your god is dead").
** "Piggy" prominently repeats the line it's commonly misattributed as its title ("nothing can stop me now") at least twenty times, and only utters the actual title twice in the first verse. "Nothing can stop me now" is also used as a subtitle in a remix of the song.
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* SpiritualSuccessor: If Music/{{Radiohead}}'s ''Music/OKComputer'' was the version of Music/PinkFloyd's ''Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon'' of the '90s, this album could be ''Music/TheWall'', as an angsty concept album about mental decay that generated a major BlackSheepHit.
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* SpiritualSuccessor: If Music/{{Radiohead}}'s ''Music/OKComputer'' was the version of Music/PinkFloyd's ''Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon'' of the '90s, this album could be ''Music/TheWall'', as an angsty concept album about mental decay that generated a major BlackSheepHit.
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* SpiritualSuccessor: If Music/{{Radiohead}}'s ''Music/OKComputer'' was the version of Music/PinkFloyd's ''Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon'' of the '90s, this album could be ''Music/TheWall'', as angsty concept albums about mental decay that generated a major BlackSheepHit.
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* SpiritualSuccessor: If Music/{{Radiohead}}'s ''Music/OKComputer'' was the version of Music/PinkFloyd's ''Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon'' of the '90s, this album could be ''Music/TheWall'', as an angsty concept albums album about mental decay that generated a major BlackSheepHit.
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* SpritualSuccessor: If Music/{{Radiohead}}'s ''Music/OKComputer'' was the version of Music/PinkFloyd's ''Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon'' of the '90s, this album could be ''Music/TheWall'', as angsty concept albums about mental decay that generated a major BlackSheepHit.
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* SpritualSuccessor: SpiritualSuccessor: If Music/{{Radiohead}}'s ''Music/OKComputer'' was the version of Music/PinkFloyd's ''Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon'' of the '90s, this album could be ''Music/TheWall'', as angsty concept albums about mental decay that generated a major BlackSheepHit.
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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: ''The Downward Spiral'' is the furthest thing from a funny album, but does have a couple of darkly amusing moments.
** The MoodWhiplash instances that comes out of nowhere in "March of the Pigs".
--->All the pigs are all lined up\\
I give you all that you want\\
Take the skin and peel it back\\
(cheerfully) Now doesn't that make you feel better?
*** The music video for "March of the Pigs" is also weirdly funny, featuring Trent and his backing band performing the song live, and Trent constantly throwing his microphone and running into other band members.
** Not overtly funny in what might be one of the grimmest moments on an already grim album, but there's the protagonist's little self-reassuring "I am a big man ([[YouKeepTellingYourselfThat yes I am]]) [[DoubleEntendre and I've got a big gun]]" shortly before he ([[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness possibly]]) crosses the MoralEventHorizon.
** The MoodWhiplash instances that comes out of nowhere in "March of the Pigs".
--->All the pigs are all lined up\\
I give you all that you want\\
Take the skin and peel it back\\
(cheerfully) Now doesn't that make you feel better?
*** The music video for "March of the Pigs" is also weirdly funny, featuring Trent and his backing band performing the song live, and Trent constantly throwing his microphone and running into other band members.
** Not overtly funny in what might be one of the grimmest moments on an already grim album, but there's the protagonist's little self-reassuring "I am a big man ([[YouKeepTellingYourselfThat yes I am]]) [[DoubleEntendre and I've got a big gun]]" shortly before he ([[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness possibly]]) crosses the MoralEventHorizon.
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* TearJerker: "Hurt" is a poignant DownerEnding after an album of dark and visceral songs.
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* TearJerker: "Hurt" is a poignant DownerEnding after an Even though it's mostly [[NightmareFuel nightmare-fueled]], the album also has plenty of dark somber tracks:
** "Mr. Self-Destruct" is NightmareFuel through andvisceral songs.through, but the last verse can hit pretty strong especially for those who suffer from depression. The fact that the repeating "And I control you" line goes from being mocking to somber only makes it worse:
--->''I am the bullet in the gun.''
--->''I am the truth from which you run.''
--->''I am a silencing machine.''
--->''I am the end of all your dreams.''
** The lyrics to "Closer" are even worse, describing the protagonist engaging in sexual sadism in order to [[TroubledAbuser fill the empty void of depression in his life]] while being completely horrified and disgusted by himself and desperately begging the subject of the song to stay with him.
---> ''I broke apart my insides''
---> ''I've got no soul to sell''
---> ''The only thing that works for me''
---> ''Help me get away from myself''
*** The song's outro. After a multi-layered and chaotic musical climax, it segues into a heartbreaking detuned piano version of the "Downward Spiral motif".
** [[HopeSpot "A Warm Place"]], especially at the end -- when it starts fading into "Eraser" and you see the brief glimpse of hope is over.
*** [[JumpScare The slam cut]] from "Big Man With a Gun" to "A Warm Place" can be rather gut-wrenching as well, given to what just happened in the context of the album: the character went insane and either raped someone or committed a massacre (or at least got into a grandiose, depraved mania and tried to do so, or believed that they were doing so), then has retreated into his mind, the only place where he can find any sort of peace (and even that peace doesn't last).
** "Hurt", especially in the context of the album -- particularly because Trent's vocals are haunting. It only doesn't reach much Tear Jerker potential due to its LastNoteNightmare... but those fucking lyrics....
--->''And you could have it all'',
--->''My empire of dirt''
--->''I will let you down.''
--->''I will make you hurt...''
--->''If I could start again,''
--->''A million miles away,''
--->''I would keep myself...''
--->''I would find a way.''
*** Music/JohnnyCash's cover is even worse, if only because it was being sung by a man in the twilight of his years, reflecting on his real-life failures. Trent himself said that the song wasn't his anymore when he reacted to the cover.
** "Mr. Self-Destruct" is NightmareFuel through and
--->''I am the bullet in the gun.''
--->''I am the truth from which you run.''
--->''I am a silencing machine.''
--->''I am the end of all your dreams.''
** The lyrics to "Closer" are even worse, describing the protagonist engaging in sexual sadism in order to [[TroubledAbuser fill the empty void of depression in his life]] while being completely horrified and disgusted by himself and desperately begging the subject of the song to stay with him.
---> ''I broke apart my insides''
---> ''I've got no soul to sell''
---> ''The only thing that works for me''
---> ''Help me get away from myself''
*** The song's outro. After a multi-layered and chaotic musical climax, it segues into a heartbreaking detuned piano version of the "Downward Spiral motif".
** [[HopeSpot "A Warm Place"]], especially at the end -- when it starts fading into "Eraser" and you see the brief glimpse of hope is over.
*** [[JumpScare The slam cut]] from "Big Man With a Gun" to "A Warm Place" can be rather gut-wrenching as well, given to what just happened in the context of the album: the character went insane and either raped someone or committed a massacre (or at least got into a grandiose, depraved mania and tried to do so, or believed that they were doing so), then has retreated into his mind, the only place where he can find any sort of peace (and even that peace doesn't last).
** "Hurt", especially in the context of the album -- particularly because Trent's vocals are haunting. It only doesn't reach much Tear Jerker potential due to its LastNoteNightmare... but those fucking lyrics....
--->''And you could have it all'',
--->''My empire of dirt''
--->''I will let you down.''
--->''I will make you hurt...''
--->''If I could start again,''
--->''A million miles away,''
--->''I would keep myself...''
--->''I would find a way.''
*** Music/JohnnyCash's cover is even worse, if only because it was being sung by a man in the twilight of his years, reflecting on his real-life failures. Trent himself said that the song wasn't his anymore when he reacted to the cover.
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* SpritualSuccessor: If Music/{{Radiohead}}'s ''Music/OKComputer'' was the ''[[Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon Dark Side of the Moon]]'' of the '90s, this album could be Music/PinkFloyd's ''Music/TheWall'', as angsty concept albums about mental decay that generated a major BlackSheepHit.
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* SpritualSuccessor: If Music/{{Radiohead}}'s ''Music/OKComputer'' was the ''[[Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon Dark Side version of the Moon]]'' Music/PinkFloyd's ''Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon'' of the '90s, this album could be Music/PinkFloyd's ''Music/TheWall'', as angsty concept albums about mental decay that generated a major BlackSheepHit.
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