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** This film is also responsible for two public misconceptions about Mary Magdalene - first is that the church labelled her a prostitute. The majority of biblical scholars have rejected this legend, and Mary is still considered a saint who had churches built in her honour - so accusations of being a prostitute would never have been popular enough to defame her. The second is that she's secretly in ''The Last Supper'', when it's more likely John; following on from the above, Mary being at the supper would not have been controversial enough for Leonardo Da Vinci to have to disguise her as one of the disciples. She was in fact already depicted as being at the supper in Fra Angelico's painting.

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** This film is also responsible for two public misconceptions about Mary Magdalene - first is that the church labelled her a prostitute. The majority of biblical scholars have rejected this legend, and Mary is still considered a saint who had churches built in her honour - so accusations of being a prostitute would never have been popular enough to defame her.her, which is even lampshaded by Teabing himself. The second is that she's secretly in ''The Last Supper'', when it's more likely John; following on from the above, Mary being at the supper would not have been controversial enough for Leonardo Da Vinci to have to disguise her as one of the disciples. She was in fact already depicted as being at the supper in Fra Angelico's painting.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Langdon has an entire speech where he remembers a near-death experience from his childhood, and seems convinced that he survived because he prayed to Jesus to keep him alive. Since the speech wasn't in the book, it may have been added to placate Christian viewers who were upset that the story questioned Jesus' divinity. Note that Langdon definitely isn't a [[HollywoodAtheist hardline atheist]] in the books, but he's rather ambivalent about religion, and he claims that he's had no genuine religious experiences.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: While Creator/IanMcKellen had already played Magneto at this point, Paul Bettany would later go on to play Vision in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, who just happens to marry Magneto's daughter Wanda. This puts the scene of Teabing beating up Silas in a [[OverprotectiveDad hilarious twist]].

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* RetroactiveRecognition: While Creator/IanMcKellen had already played Magneto at this point, Paul Bettany would later go on to play Vision in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, who just happens to marry Magneto's daughter Wanda. This puts the scene of Teabing beating up Silas in a [[OverprotectiveDad hilarious twist]].twist.

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** Bishop Aringosa believes that a mysterious benefactor is helping him restore credibility to Opus Dei. When he finds out [[spoiler:said benefactor was using Silas to commit mass murder, of fellow Church members no less, we see a BadassPreacher in action. Aringosa bribes a pilot to turn a plane around so he can confess to the police, accepting full responsibility for what happened. In fact, this is what clears Robert and Sophie's names when he establishes that neither of them were involved. Then he does all he can to find Silas and stop him, [[ParentalSubstitute because Silas is his son in all but name]]]].
** Fache is a BadCopIncompetentCop but he has what most people don't have: the courage to admit when he was wrong. [[spoiler:Like Aringosa, he is willing to accept consequences for his actions in chasing down Robert and Sophie, and Robert would have every reason to file a civil lawsuit against the French police for the manhunt]].
** Robert, despite himself, has been interested in the hunt for the Holy Grail-- Mary Magdalene's tomb. He's been careful with each cryptex, knowing that manhandling one would destroy the papyrus. When [[spoiler:Teabing holds him and Sophie at gunpoint in Isaac Newton's tomb, Robert at first seems lost at solving the code. Then he tosses the cryptex in the air, seemingly sacrificing the knowledge for the greater good. All Teabing can do is lunge for it, and hear the vinegar bottle in it crack, before realizing the cryptex is open. Robert cracked the code, but he says apologetically to his friend that he can't let him know the answer to where the Tomb is]].



* IdiotPlot:
** As Robert repeatedly lampshades, why the heck would he commit murder in a foreign country, and leave an old academic to bleed out to death in the Louvre? He has no motive, has never even met Jacques Sauniere, and is touring the country to promote his book. The only connection he has to the murder is that Jacques used his blood to write Robert's name, as a message to his granddaughter Sophie. Fache has no case; yes, technically Robert runs, but on Sophie's orders so she can distract the fuzz and get him to the safety of the US embassy. This gets lampshaded throughout the book; no one can believe that a dry academic is a killer. When [[spoiler:Aringosa turns himself into the cops and confesses that Silas was hired by a man who wanted to find Mary Magdalene's coffin, Fache realizes how badly he messed up and his priority becomes trying to rescue Sophie and Robert from a dangerous mass-murderer]]. He and Aringosa lampshade that their poor judgement of the situation made things worse.
** Most of the plot could have been averted if Saunière had just left [[{{Macguffin}} the key to his secret bank vault]] to Sophie '''in his will'''. He supposedly wanted to ensure that Sophie (and ''only'' Sophie) could get his key, yet he chose to hide his key behind a painting in a large public art museum where any museum employee could find it coincidentally--and he only leaves a set of anagrams (which ''anyone'' could decipher) to tell Sophie where to find it.


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** Bishop Aringosa believes that a mysterious benefactor is helping him restore credibility to Opus Dei. When he finds out [[spoiler:said benefactor was using Silas to commit mass murder, of fellow Church members no less, we see a BadassPreacher in action. Aringosa bribes a pilot to turn a plane around so he can confess to the police, accepting full responsibility for what happened. In fact, this is what clears Robert and Sophie's names when he establishes that neither of them were involved. Then he does all he can to find Silas and stop him, [[ParentalSubstitute because Silas is his son in all but name]]]].
** Fache is a BadCopIncompetentCop but he has what most people don't have: the courage to admit when he was wrong. [[spoiler:Like Aringosa, he is willing to accept consequences for his actions in chasing down Robert and Sophie, and Robert would have every reason to file a civil lawsuit against the French police for the manhunt]].
** Robert, despite himself, has been interested in the hunt for the Holy Grail-- Mary Magdalene's tomb. He's been careful with each cryptex, knowing that manhandling one would destroy the papyrus. When [[spoiler:Teabing holds him and Sophie at gunpoint in Isaac Newton's tomb, Robert at first seems lost at solving the code. Then he tosses the cryptex in the air, seemingly sacrificing the knowledge for the greater good. All Teabing can do is lunge for it, and hear the vinegar bottle in it crack, before realizing the cryptex is open. Robert cracked the code, but he says apologetically to his friend that he can't let him know the answer to where the Tomb is]].
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* RetroactiveRecognition: While {{McKelllen}} had already played Magneto at this point, Paul Bettany would later go on to play Vision in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, who just happens to marry Magneto's daughter Wanda. This puts the scene of Teabing beating up Silas in a [[OverprotectiveDad hilarious twist]].

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* RetroactiveRecognition: While {{McKelllen}} Creator/IanMcKellen had already played Magneto at this point, Paul Bettany would later go on to play Vision in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, who just happens to marry Magneto's daughter Wanda. This puts the scene of Teabing beating up Silas in a [[OverprotectiveDad hilarious twist]].

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* IdiotPlot: As Robert repeatedly lampshades, why the heck would he commit murder in a foreign country, and leave an old academic to bleed out to death in the Louvre? He has no motive, has never even met Jacques Sauniere, and is touring the country to promote his book. The only connection he has to the murder is that Jacques used his blood to write Robert's name, as a message to his granddaughter Sophie. Fache has no case; yes, technically Robert runs, but on Sophie's orders so she can distract the fuzz and get him to the safety of the US embassy. This gets lampshaded throughout the book; no one can believe that a dry academic is a killer. When [[spoiler:Aringosa turns himself into the cops and confesses that Silas was hired by a man who wanted to find Mary Magdalene's coffin, Fache realizes how badly he messed up and his priority becomes trying to rescue Sophie and Robert from a dangerous mass-murderer]]. He and Aringosa lampshade that their poor judgement of the situation made things worse.

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As Robert repeatedly lampshades, why the heck would he commit murder in a foreign country, and leave an old academic to bleed out to death in the Louvre? He has no motive, has never even met Jacques Sauniere, and is touring the country to promote his book. The only connection he has to the murder is that Jacques used his blood to write Robert's name, as a message to his granddaughter Sophie. Fache has no case; yes, technically Robert runs, but on Sophie's orders so she can distract the fuzz and get him to the safety of the US embassy. This gets lampshaded throughout the book; no one can believe that a dry academic is a killer. When [[spoiler:Aringosa turns himself into the cops and confesses that Silas was hired by a man who wanted to find Mary Magdalene's coffin, Fache realizes how badly he messed up and his priority becomes trying to rescue Sophie and Robert from a dangerous mass-murderer]]. He and Aringosa lampshade that their poor judgement of the situation made things worse.
** Most of the plot could have been averted if Saunière had just left [[{{Macguffin}} the key to his secret bank vault]] to Sophie '''in his will'''. He supposedly wanted to ensure that Sophie (and ''only'' Sophie) could get his key, yet he chose to hide his key behind a painting in a large public art museum where any museum employee could find it coincidentally--and he only leaves a set of anagrams (which ''anyone'' could decipher) to tell Sophie where to find it.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: While {{McKelllen}} had already played Magneto at this point, Paul Bettany would later go on to play Vision in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, who just happens to marry Magneto's daughter Wanda. This puts the scene of Teabing beating up Silas in a [[OverprotectiveDad hilarious twist]].

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* AngstWhatAngst: Sophie's grandfather died, and she's committed to protecting the man he ordered her to find. While she confronts a bound Silas for murdering Jacques, for the most part her bigger priority is finding out first how to clear Robert's name and then solve the secret her grandfather was carrying. Likewise, she finds out [[spoiler:her brother and grandmother are alive, and it's revealed while the car crash was real, Jacques and his wife agreed to separate with their grandchildren so as to protect them from potential assassins. Sophie takes this well when she thought her whole family was dead]].

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* AngstWhatAngst: Sophie's grandfather died, and she's committed to protecting the man he ordered her to find. While she confronts a bound Silas for murdering Jacques, for the most part her bigger priority is finding out first how to clear Robert's name and then solve the secret her grandfather was carrying. Likewise, she finds out [[spoiler:her brother and grandmother are alive, and it's revealed while the car crash was real, Jacques and his wife agreed to separate with their grandchildren so as to protect them from potential assassins. Sophie takes this well when she thought her whole family was dead]]. The film notably gives her a moment where she gets angry at Silas and tells him "Your God doesn't forgive murderers. He burns them!"



* FollowTheLeader: Created an explosion of AncientConspiracy quests ''*cough* Film/NationalTreasure *cough*'' and books about the Holy Grail. Also, this was inspired by a [[VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory "nonfiction" book]] which is about a conspiracy theory similar to the one Langdon runs into.
** National Treasure had actually been in the works since 1999, [[OlderThanTheyThink long before the book came out,]] and had already begun production when the book was released.


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** It's often assumed that ''Film/NationalTreasure'' was created to follow this one's success. The book it was based on was written in 1999, and the film adaptation was in production before ''The Da Vinci Code''.
** This film is also responsible for two public misconceptions about Mary Magdalene - first is that the church labelled her a prostitute. The majority of biblical scholars have rejected this legend, and Mary is still considered a saint who had churches built in her honour - so accusations of being a prostitute would never have been popular enough to defame her. The second is that she's secretly in ''The Last Supper'', when it's more likely John; following on from the above, Mary being at the supper would not have been controversial enough for Leonardo Da Vinci to have to disguise her as one of the disciples. She was in fact already depicted as being at the supper in Fra Angelico's painting.
* CriticProof: Negative critical reviews couldn't stop this from making $700 million worldwide.
* DontShootTheMessage: Whatever one's opinion on the subject matter is, highlighting how the church has historically persecuted and punished women and covered up much of its dirty laundry are topics worthy of mainstream discussion.


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* NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity: Despite the controversy and calls to boycott the film because of its subject matter, it was a huge hit.
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** Bishop Aringosa believes that a mysterious benefactor is helping him restore credibility to Opus Dei. When he finds out [[spoiler:said benefactor was using Silas to commit mass murder, of fellow Church members no less, we see a BadassPreacher in action. Aringosa bribes a pilot to turn a plane around so he can confess to the police accepts full responsibility for what happened. In fact, this is what clears Robert and Sophie's names when he establishes that neither of them were involved. Then he does all he can to find Silas and stop him, because Silas is his son in all but naame]].

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** Bishop Aringosa believes that a mysterious benefactor is helping him restore credibility to Opus Dei. When he finds out [[spoiler:said benefactor was using Silas to commit mass murder, of fellow Church members no less, we see a BadassPreacher in action. Aringosa bribes a pilot to turn a plane around so he can confess to the police accepts police, accepting full responsibility for what happened. In fact, this is what clears Robert and Sophie's names when he establishes that neither of them were involved. Then he does all he can to find Silas and stop him, [[ParentalSubstitute because Silas is his son in all but naame]].name]]]].
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* MagnificentBastard: [[BigBad Sir Leigh Teabing]] is a wealthy and brilliant British Historian whose desire is to find the [[PublicDomainArtifact Holy Grail]] to use to reveal the truth about Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene and expose the church's lies. To his ends, Teabing convinces Bishop Aringarosa and WarriorMonk Silas to join his cause, having the latter kill multiple members of the Priory of Sion and [[FrameUp framing]] his friend Robert Langdon for the murders, forcing Langdon and Sophie Neveu to come to Teabing for help. Smuggling Robert and Sophie out of France and into London, Teabing frees Silas, having him hold Sophie hostage while having his servant Remy hold Robert at gunpoint, forcing Robert to hand over the crypt containing the map of the Holy Grail's location to them. Teabing goes with Remy and Silas where he kills the former and sells the latter out to the police [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness once they served their purpose to him]]. Teabing then reveals himself to Robert and Sophie where he forces the duo to solve the cryptex's puzzle and retrieve the map for him by holding them at gunpoint.

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* MagnificentBastard: [[BigBad Sir Leigh Teabing]] is a wealthy and brilliant British Historian whose desire is to find the [[PublicDomainArtifact Holy Grail]] to use to reveal the truth about Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene and expose the church's lies. To his ends, Teabing convinces Bishop Aringarosa and WarriorMonk Silas to join his cause, having the latter kill multiple members of the Priory of Sion and [[FrameUp framing]] his friend Robert Langdon for the murders, forcing Langdon and Sophie Neveu to come to Teabing for help. Smuggling Robert and Sophie out of France and into London, Teabing frees Silas, having him hold Sophie hostage while having his servant Remy hold Robert at gunpoint, forcing Robert to hand over the crypt cryptex containing the map of the Holy Grail's location to them. Teabing goes with Remy and Silas where he kills the former and sells the latter out to the police [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness once they served their purpose to him]]. Teabing then reveals himself to Robert and Sophie where he forces the duo to solve the cryptex's puzzle and retrieve the map for him by holding them at gunpoint.
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** Bishop Aringosa believes that a mysterious benefactor is helping him restore credibility to Opus Dei. When he finds out [[spoiler:said benefactor was using Silas to commit mass murder, of fellow Church members no less, we see a BadassPreacher in action. Aringosa bribes a pilot to turn a plane around so he can confess to the police accepts full responsibility for what happened. In fact, this is what clears Robert and Sophie's names when he establishes that neither of them were involved. Then he does all he can to find Silas and stop him, because Silas is his son in all but naame]].
** Fache is a BadCopIncompetentCop but he has what most people don't have: the courage to admit when he was wrong. [[spoiler:Like Aringosa, he is willing to accept consequences for his actions in chasing down Robert and Sophie, and Robert would have every reason to file a civil lawsuit against the French police for the manhunt]].
** Robert, despite himself, has been interested in the hunt for the Holy Grail-- Mary Magdalene's tomb. He's been careful with each cryptex, knowing that manhandling one would destroy the papyrus. When [[spoiler:Teabing holds him and Sophie at gunpoint in Isaac Newton's tomb, Robert at first seems lost at solving the code. Then he tosses the cryptex in the air, seemingly sacrificing the knowledge for the greater good. All Teabing can do is lunge for it, and hear the vinegar bottle in it crack, before realizing the cryptex is open. Robert cracked the code, but he says apologetically to his friend that he can't let him know the answer to where the Tomb is]].
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* AngstWhatAngst: Sophie's grandfather died, and she's committed to protecting the man he ordered her to find. While she confronts a bound Silas for murdering Jacques, for the most part her bigger priority is finding out first how to clear Robert's name and then solve the secret her grandfather was carrying. Likewise, she finds out [[spoiler:her brother and grandmother are alive, and it's revealed while the car crash was real, Jacques and his wife agreed to separate with their grandchildren so as to protect them from potential assassins. Sophie takes this well when she thought her whole famil y was dead]].

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* AngstWhatAngst: Sophie's grandfather died, and she's committed to protecting the man he ordered her to find. While she confronts a bound Silas for murdering Jacques, for the most part her bigger priority is finding out first how to clear Robert's name and then solve the secret her grandfather was carrying. Likewise, she finds out [[spoiler:her brother and grandmother are alive, and it's revealed while the car crash was real, Jacques and his wife agreed to separate with their grandchildren so as to protect them from potential assassins. Sophie takes this well when she thought her whole famil y family was dead]].



* MagnificentBastard: [[BigBad Sir Leigh Teabing]] is a wealthy and brilliant British Historian whose desire is to find the [[PublicDomainArtifact Holy Grail]] to use to reveal the truth about Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene and expose the church's lies. To his ends, Teabing convinces Bishop Aringarosa and WarriorMonk Silas to join his cause, having the latter kill multiple members of the Priory of Sion and [[FrameUp framing]] his friend Robert Langdon for the murders, forcing Langdon and Sophie Neveu to come to Teabing for help. Smuggling Robert and Sophie out of France an into London, Teabing frees Silas, having him hold Sophie hostage while having his servant Remy hold Robert at gunpoint, forcing Robert to hand over the cryptex containing the map of the Holy Grail's location to them. Teabing goes with Remy and Silas where he kills the former and sells the latter out to the police [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness once they served their purpose to him]]. Teabing then reveals himself to Robert and Sophie where he forces the duo to solve the cryptex's puzzle and retrieve the map for him by holding them at gunpoint.

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* MagnificentBastard: [[BigBad Sir Leigh Teabing]] is a wealthy and brilliant British Historian whose desire is to find the [[PublicDomainArtifact Holy Grail]] to use to reveal the truth about Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene and expose the church's lies. To his ends, Teabing convinces Bishop Aringarosa and WarriorMonk Silas to join his cause, having the latter kill multiple members of the Priory of Sion and [[FrameUp framing]] his friend Robert Langdon for the murders, forcing Langdon and Sophie Neveu to come to Teabing for help. Smuggling Robert and Sophie out of France an and into London, Teabing frees Silas, having him hold Sophie hostage while having his servant Remy hold Robert at gunpoint, forcing Robert to hand over the cryptex crypt containing the map of the Holy Grail's location to them. Teabing goes with Remy and Silas where he kills the former and sells the latter out to the police [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness once they served their purpose to him]]. Teabing then reveals himself to Robert and Sophie where he forces the duo to solve the cryptex's puzzle and retrieve the map for him by holding them at gunpoint.
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* AngstWhatAngst: Sophie's grandfather died, and she's committed to protecting the man he ordered her to find. While she confronts a bound Silas for murdering Jacques, for the most part her bigger priority is finding out first how to clear Robert's name and then solve the secret her grandfather was carrying. Likewise, she finds out [[spoiler:her brother and grandmother are alive, and it's revealed while the car crash was real, Jacques and his wife agreed to separate with their grandchildren so as to protect them from potential assassins. Sophie takes this well when she thought her whole famil y was dead]].


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* FridgeHorror: The French police find out that they were on a WildGooseChase and hunting down an innocent man across country lines. This isn't good optics for them, as Fache notes at the end. To his credit, Fache realizes his mistake and [[spoiler:apologizes to Sophie when she calls the British police and reveals that Silas kidnapped Leigh Teabing. In fact, his bigger worry is that she's going to confront a killer and orders her to stay where she is so the bobbies can provide backup]]. It seems AllIsWellThatEndsWell with [[spoiler:Teabing arrested, and the pair's names are cleared]]. Even though they eventually get the right guy, they have to hope that the public will believe Collet when he claims that [[spoiler:Sophie and Robert were willingly part of a sting operation in the hopes of luring out the real killer]]. Fache and Aringosa commiserate over the fact that their well-intentioned actions led to great disaster.


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* IdiotPlot: As Robert repeatedly lampshades, why the heck would he commit murder in a foreign country, and leave an old academic to bleed out to death in the Louvre? He has no motive, has never even met Jacques Sauniere, and is touring the country to promote his book. The only connection he has to the murder is that Jacques used his blood to write Robert's name, as a message to his granddaughter Sophie. Fache has no case; yes, technically Robert runs, but on Sophie's orders so she can distract the fuzz and get him to the safety of the US embassy. This gets lampshaded throughout the book; no one can believe that a dry academic is a killer. When [[spoiler:Aringosa turns himself into the cops and confesses that Silas was hired by a man who wanted to find Mary Magdalene's coffin, Fache realizes how badly he messed up and his priority becomes trying to rescue Sophie and Robert from a dangerous mass-murderer]]. He and Aringosa lampshade that their poor judgement of the situation made things worse.
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* MagnificentBastard: [[BigBad Sir Leigh Teabing]] is a wealthy and brilliant British Historian whose desire is to find the [[PublicDomainArtifact Holy Grail]] to use to reveal the truth about Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene and expose the church's lies. To his ends, Teabing convinces Bishop Aringarosa and WarriorMonk Silas to join his cause, having the latter kill multiple members of the Priory of Sion and [[FrameUp framing]] his friend Robert Langdon for the murders, forcing Langdon and Sohpie Sophie Neveu to come to Teabing for help. Smuggling Robert and Sophie out of France an into London, Teabing frees Silas, having him hold Sophie hostage while having his servant Remy hold Robert at gunpoint, forcing Robert to hand over the cryptex containing the map of the Holy Grail's location to them. Teabing goes with Remy and Silas where he kills the former and sells the latter out to the police [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness once they served their purpose to him]]. Teabing then reveals himself to Robert and Sophie where he forces the duo to solve the cryptex's puzzle and retrieve the map for him by holding them at gunpoint.

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* MagnificentBastard: [[BigBad Sir Leigh Teabing]] is a wealthy and brilliant British Historian whose desire is to find the [[PublicDomainArtifact Holy Grail]] to use to reveal the truth about Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene and expose the church's lies. To his ends, Teabing convinces Bishop Aringarosa and WarriorMonk Silas to join his cause, having the latter kill multiple members of the Priory of Sion and [[FrameUp framing]] his friend Robert Langdon for the murders, forcing Langdon and Sohpie Sophie Neveu to come to Teabing for help. Smuggling Robert and Sophie out of France an into London, Teabing frees Silas, having him hold Sophie hostage while having his servant Remy hold Robert at gunpoint, forcing Robert to hand over the cryptex containing the map of the Holy Grail's location to them. Teabing goes with Remy and Silas where he kills the former and sells the latter out to the police [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness once they served their purpose to him]]. Teabing then reveals himself to Robert and Sophie where he forces the duo to solve the cryptex's puzzle and retrieve the map for him by holding them at gunpoint.
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** National Treasure had actually been in the works since 1999, [[OlderThanThey Think long before the book came out,]] and had already begun production when the book was released.

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* MagnificentBastard: [[BigBad Sir Leigh Teabing]] is a wealthy and brilliant British Historian whose desire is to find the [[PublicDomainArtifact Holy Grail]] to use to reveal the truth about Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene and expose the church's lies. To his ends, Teabing convinces Bishop Aringarosa and WarriorMonk Silas to join his cause, having the latter kill multiple members of the Priory of Sion and [[FrameUp framing]] his friend Robert Langdon for the murders, forcing Langdon and Sohpie Neveu to come to Teabing for help. Smuggling Robert and Sophie out of France an into London, Teabing frees Silas, having him hold Sophie hostage while having his servant Remy hold Robert at gunpoint, forcing Robert to hand over the cryptex containing the map of the Holy Grail's location to them. Teabing goes with Remy and Silas where he kills the former and sells the latter out to the police [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness once they served their purpose to him]]. Teabing then reveals himself to Robert and Sophie where he forces the duo to solve the cryptex's puzzle and retrieve the map for him by holding them at gunpoint.

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* MagnificentBastard: [[BigBad Sir Leigh Teabing]] is a wealthy and brilliant British Historian whose desire is to find the [[PublicDomainArtifact Holy Grail]] to use to reveal the truth about Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene and expose the church's lies. To his ends, Teabing convinces Bishop Aringarosa and WarriorMonk Silas to join his cause, having the latter kill multiple members of the Priory of Sion and [[FrameUp framing]] his friend Robert Langdon for the murders, forcing Langdon and Sohpie Sophie Neveu to come to Teabing for help. Smuggling Robert and Sophie out of France an into London, Teabing frees Silas, having him hold Sophie hostage while having his servant Remy hold Robert at gunpoint, forcing Robert to hand over the cryptex containing the map of the Holy Grail's location to them. Teabing goes with Remy and Silas where he kills the former and sells the latter out to the police [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness once they served their purpose to him]]. Teabing then reveals himself to Robert and Sophie where he forces the duo to solve the cryptex's puzzle and retrieve the map for him by holding them at gunpoint.
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* MagnificentBastard: [[BigBad Sir Leigh Teabing]] is a wealthy and brilliant British Historian whose desire is to find the Holy Grail to use to reveal the truth about Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene and expose the church's lies. To his ends, Teabing convinces Bishop Aringarosa and WarriorMonk Silas to join his cause, having the latter kill multiple members of the Priory of Sion and [[FrameUp framing]] his friend Robert Langdon for the murders, forcing Langdon and Sohpie Neveu to come to Teabing for help. Smuggling Robert and Sophie out of France an into London, Teabing frees Silas, having him hold Sophie hostage while having his servant Remy hold Robert at gunpoint, forcing Robert to hand over the cryptex containing the map of the Holy Grail's location to them. Teabing goes with Remy and Silas where he kills the former and sells the latter out to the police [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness once they served their purpose to him]]. Teabing then reveals himself to Robert and Sophie where he forces the duo to solve the cryptex's puzzle and retrieve the map for him by holding them at gunpoint.

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* MagnificentBastard: [[BigBad Sir Leigh Teabing]] is a wealthy and brilliant British Historian whose desire is to find the [[PublicDomainArtifact Holy Grail Grail]] to use to reveal the truth about Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene and expose the church's lies. To his ends, Teabing convinces Bishop Aringarosa and WarriorMonk Silas to join his cause, having the latter kill multiple members of the Priory of Sion and [[FrameUp framing]] his friend Robert Langdon for the murders, forcing Langdon and Sohpie Neveu to come to Teabing for help. Smuggling Robert and Sophie out of France an into London, Teabing frees Silas, having him hold Sophie hostage while having his servant Remy hold Robert at gunpoint, forcing Robert to hand over the cryptex containing the map of the Holy Grail's location to them. Teabing goes with Remy and Silas where he kills the former and sells the latter out to the police [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness once they served their purpose to him]]. Teabing then reveals himself to Robert and Sophie where he forces the duo to solve the cryptex's puzzle and retrieve the map for him by holding them at gunpoint.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: In the movie adaptation, Langdon has an entire speech where he remembers a near-death experience from his childhood, and seems convinced that he survived because he prayed to Jesus to keep him alive. Since the speech wasn't in the book, it may have been added to placate Christian viewers who were upset that the story questioned Jesus' divinity. Note that Langdon definitely isn't a [[HollywoodAtheist hardline atheist]] in the books, but he's rather ambivalent about religion, and he claims that he's had no genuine religious experiences.
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The film adaptation's musical score by Hans Zimmer is well acclaimed, particularly its emotional final track, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5FyRZbqfeM Chevalier du Sangreal]], playing as Langdon [[spoiler: tracks the final clues through Paris and kneels at the final burial place of Mary Magdalene]].

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: In the movie adaptation, Langdon has an entire speech where he remembers a near-death experience from his childhood, and seems convinced that he survived because he prayed to Jesus to keep him alive. Since the speech wasn't in the book, it may have been added to placate Christian viewers who were upset that the story questioned Jesus' divinity. Note that Langdon definitely isn't a [[HollywoodAtheist hardline atheist]] in the books, but he's rather ambivalent about religion, and he claims that he's had no genuine religious experiences.
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The film adaptation's musical score by Hans Zimmer is well acclaimed, particularly its emotional final track, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5FyRZbqfeM Chevalier du Sangreal]], playing as Langdon [[spoiler: tracks the final clues through Paris and kneels at the final burial place of Mary Magdalene]].
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* {{Narm}}: Towards the end of the movie version, Langdon has a speech where he recalls nearly drowning in a well as a child, and praying to Jesus to keep him alive ("Sometimes I wonder if I wasn't alone down there!"). It's not necessarily badly written, but it has basically ''no'' relation to any other theological topic that comes up in the movie, and it was pretty obviously [[AuthorsSavingThrow stuck in to deflect claims that the original book had an atheist message]]. "Oh, Christians are angry that the story questions Jesus' divinity? Well, we better shoehorn in a speech where the hero claims that prayer saved his life..."
* OffendingTheCreatorsOwn: Christian critics of the books and films are probably unaware that Creator/TomHanks is a Greek Orthodox Christian (he converted to the religion upon marrying Rita Wilson). When confronted with this, Hanks found it befuddling that people were taking the subject matter at face value and stated, "My heritage, and that of my wife, suggests that our sins have been taken away, not our brains." Perhaps Hanks' prayer speech (see directly above) might have been the driving force in him not turning the movie down in the first place.


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!!Film version
* AuthorsSavingThrow: Langdon has an entire speech where he remembers a near-death experience from his childhood, and seems convinced that he survived because he prayed to Jesus to keep him alive. Since the speech wasn't in the book, it may have been added to placate Christian viewers who were upset that the story questioned Jesus' divinity. Note that Langdon definitely isn't a [[HollywoodAtheist hardline atheist]] in the books, but he's rather ambivalent about religion, and he claims that he's had no genuine religious experiences.
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The musical score by Hans Zimmer is well acclaimed, particularly its emotional final track, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5FyRZbqfeM Chevalier du Sangreal]], playing as Langdon [[spoiler: tracks the final clues through Paris and kneels at the final burial place of Mary Magdalene]].
* MagnificentBastard: [[BigBad Sir Leigh Teabing]] is a wealthy and brilliant British Historian whose desire is to find the Holy Grail to use to reveal the truth about Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene and expose the church's lies. To his ends, Teabing convinces Bishop Aringarosa and WarriorMonk Silas to join his cause, having the latter kill multiple members of the Priory of Sion and [[FrameUp framing]] his friend Robert Langdon for the murders, forcing Langdon and Sohpie Neveu to come to Teabing for help. Smuggling Robert and Sophie out of France an into London, Teabing frees Silas, having him hold Sophie hostage while having his servant Remy hold Robert at gunpoint, forcing Robert to hand over the cryptex containing the map of the Holy Grail's location to them. Teabing goes with Remy and Silas where he kills the former and sells the latter out to the police [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness once they served their purpose to him]]. Teabing then reveals himself to Robert and Sophie where he forces the duo to solve the cryptex's puzzle and retrieve the map for him by holding them at gunpoint.
* {{Narm}}: Towards the end of the movie, Langdon has a speech where he recalls nearly drowning in a well as a child, and praying to Jesus to keep him alive ("Sometimes I wonder if I wasn't alone down there!"). It's not necessarily badly written, but it has basically ''no'' relation to any other theological topic that comes up in the movie, and it was pretty obviously [[AuthorsSavingThrow stuck in to deflect claims that the original book had an atheist message]]. "Oh, Christians are angry that the story questions Jesus' divinity? Well, we better shoehorn in a speech where the hero claims that prayer saved his life..."
* OffendingTheCreatorsOwn: Christian critics of the work are probably unaware that Creator/TomHanks is a Greek Orthodox Christian (he converted to the religion upon marrying Rita Wilson). When confronted with this, Hanks found it befuddling that people were taking the subject matter at face value and stated, "My heritage, and that of my wife, suggests that our sins have been taken away, not our brains." Perhaps Hanks' prayer speech (see directly above) might have been the driving force in him not turning the movie down in the first place.
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* SnarkBait: It seems that a less-than-shiny book assembled from moldy pieces of cryptohistory is ''not'' going to be any less of a target if advertised as a daring innovative idea and maybe even a ''really'' relevant theory.
** The fact that it holds the [[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-14006782 record]] for the most frequently donated book gives way to a lot of Snark Bait.

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* FelonyMisdemeanor: Sophie stops talking to her grandfather, her sole surviving relative [[spoiler: she believes]] and the man who raised her, for ten years. Why? [[spoiler: [[PrimalScene She walked in on him having sex.]]]] Granted, it was under unusual circumstances, but her reaction of horror and disgust, and the fact that she ''hates'' him for ten years (until he dies and she finds out more about the circumstances), seems quite unreasonable. She is not even portrayed as devoutly religious, which would make her reaction make a little more sense; the narrative just takes for granted that that is a reasonable cause for complete estrangement.
* FollowTheLeader: Created an explosion of AncientConspiracy quests ''*cough* Film/NationalTreasure *cough*'' and books about the Holy Grail. Also, this was was inspired by a [[VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory "nonfiction" book]] which is about a conspiracy theory similar to the one Langdon runs into.

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* FelonyMisdemeanor: Sophie stops talking to her grandfather, her sole surviving relative [[spoiler: she believes]] and the man who raised her, for ten years. Why? [[spoiler: [[PrimalScene She walked in on him having sex.]]]] Granted, it was under unusual circumstances, but her reaction of horror and disgust, and the fact that she ''hates'' him for ten years (until he dies and she finds out more about the circumstances), seems quite unreasonable. She is not even portrayed as devoutly religious, which would make her reaction make a little more sense; the narrative just takes for granted that that is a reasonable cause for complete estrangement.
* FollowTheLeader: Created an explosion of AncientConspiracy quests ''*cough* Film/NationalTreasure *cough*'' and books about the Holy Grail. Also, this was was inspired by a [[VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory "nonfiction" book]] which is about a conspiracy theory similar to the one Langdon runs into.



* OlderThanTheyThink: The idea of an American man and a French woman uncovering a conspiracy involving the Knights Templar and its modern day secret society in Europe was first implemented in ''VideoGame/BrokenSword: The Shadow of the Templars''.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: The idea of an American man and a French woman uncovering a conspiracy involving the Knights Templar and its modern day modern-day secret society in Europe was first implemented in ''VideoGame/BrokenSword: The Shadow of the Templars''.



* SnarkBait: It seems that a less-than-shiny book assembled from moldy pieces of cryptohistory is ''not'' going to be any less of a target if advertised as a daring innovative idea and (whispering) maybe even a ''really'' relevant theory.

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* SnarkBait: It seems that a less-than-shiny book assembled from moldy pieces of cryptohistory is ''not'' going to be any less of a target if advertised as a daring innovative idea and (whispering) maybe even a ''really'' relevant theory.



* StrawmanFallacy: In the film discovering descendants of Jesus is treated as something that would destroy the Catholic church, and [[spoiler: Teabing and the Piory]] wants to bring down the Church for centuries of persecution and deceit. This is a straw argument for several reasons. Christ's divinity and spiritual authority did not come from human genes, so there's not reason to think his spiritual power can be passed on by them. In addition, God being infinite, it would not be diluted across His descendants; not to mention being Christian cannot be inherited from one's parents, it requires a personal decision. Proving that Jesus had a wife and descendants would be a remarkable finding that would cause a stir, but marriage is a God-ordained union, a sacrament in the Catholic Church and a central feature of Christianity so it would not do what the film claims it would do. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And we'll leave it at that.]]
* WhatCliffHanger: The book had a OneParagraphChapter in which Robert Langdon and his date see a thing inside a box. Whatever the grail was, it wasn't ''that thing'' [[spoiler: (the thing turned out to be a cryptex, i.e., a tube that had a puzzle to be solved for it to open)]]. In fact, done frequently in anything written by Dan Brown. It's pretty much the end of every chapter.
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* FelonyMisdemeanor: Sophie stops talking to her grandfather, her sole surviving relative [[spoiler: she believes]] and the man who raised her, for ten years. Why? [[spoiler: [[PrimalScene She walked in on him having sex.]]]] Granted, it was under unusual circumstances, but her reaction of horror and disgust, and the fact that she ''hates'' him for ten years (until he dies and she finds out more about the circumstances), seems quite unreasonable. She is not even portrayed as devoutly religious, which would make her reaction make a little more sense; the narrative just takes for granted that that is a reasonable cause for complete estrangement.
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* StrawmanFallacy: In the film discovering descendants of Jesus is treated as something that would destroy the Catholic church, and [[spoiler: Teabing and the Piory]] wants to bring down the Church for centuries of persecution and deceit. This is a straw argument for several reasons. Christ's divinity and spiritual authority did not come from human genes, so there's not reason to think his spiritual power can be passed on by them. In addition, God being infinite, it would not be diluted across His descendants; not to mention being Christian cannot be inherited from one's parents, it requires a personal decision. Proving that Jesus had a wife and descendants would be a remarkable finding that would cause a stir, but marriage is a God-ordained union, a sacrament in the Catholic Church and a central feature of Christianity so it would not do what the film claims it would do. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And we'll leave it at that.]]

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* StrawmanFallacy: In the film discovering descendants of Jesus is treated as something that would destroy the Catholic church, and [[spoiler: Teabing and the Piory]] wants to bring down the Church for centuries of persecution and deceit. This is a straw argument for several reasons. Christ's divinity and spiritual authority did not come from human genes, so there's not reason to think his spiritual power can be passed on by them. In addition, God being infinite, it would not be diluted across His descendants; not to mention being Christian cannot be inherited from one's parents, it requires a personal decision. Proving that Jesus had a wife and descendants would be a remarkable finding that would cause a stir, but marriage is a God-ordained union, a sacrament in the Catholic Church and a central feature of Christianity so it would not do what the film claims it would do. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And we'll leave it at that.]]
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* AwesomeMusic: The film adaptation's musical score by Hans Zimmer is well acclaimed, particularly its emotional final track, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5FyRZbqfeM Chevalier du Sangreal]], playing as Langdon [[spoiler: tracks the final clues through Paris and kneels at the final burial place of Mary Magdalene]].

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* AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The film adaptation's musical score by Hans Zimmer is well acclaimed, particularly its emotional final track, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5FyRZbqfeM Chevalier du Sangreal]], playing as Langdon [[spoiler: tracks the final clues through Paris and kneels at the final burial place of Mary Magdalene]].
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* AwesomeMusic: The film adaptation's musical score by Hans Zimmer is well acclaimed, particularly its emotional final track, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5FyRZbqfeM Chevalier du Sangreal]], playing as Langdon [[spoiler: tracks the final clues through Paris and kneels at the final burial place of Mary Magdalene]].
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* OffendingTheCreatorsOwn: Christian critics of the books and films are probably unaware that Creator/TomHanks is a Greek Orthodox Christian (he converted to the religion upon marrying Rita Wilson). When confronted with this, Hanks found it befuddling that people were taking the subject matter at face value and stated, "My heritage, and that of my wife, suggests that our sins have been taken away, not our brains." Perhaps Hanks' prayer speech (see directly above) might have been the driving force in him not turning the movie down in the first place.
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* GeniusBonus:
** In Leigh Teabing's library, he has a statue of Janus - the god with two faces. [[spoiler: This foreshadows that Leigh himself is two-faced and will betray them]].
** Bishop Aringarosa's name is made up of the words 'aringa' and 'rosa', which can be translated from Italian to mean RedHerring.
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* DoubleStandard: [[spoiler: Teabing and the Piory grievance with the Church is centuries of persecution and deceit. This ignores the fact that those things are also found among some non-Catholic Christians, religions besides Christianity and non-religious people, ideologies and institutions.]]

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* DoubleStandard: [[spoiler: Teabing FollowTheLeader: Created an explosion of AncientConspiracy quests ''*cough* Film/NationalTreasure *cough*'' and books about the Piory grievance with Holy Grail. Also, this was was inspired by a [[VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory "nonfiction" book]] which is about a conspiracy theory similar to the Church is centuries of persecution and deceit. This ignores the fact that those things are also found among some non-Catholic Christians, religions besides Christianity and non-religious people, ideologies and institutions.]] one Langdon runs into.

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