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* DoubleStandard: [[spoiler: Teabing and the Piory]] grievance with the Church is centuries of persecution and deceit. This ignores the fact that those things are also found among some non-Catholic Christians, religions besides Christianity and non-religious people, ideologies and institutions.

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* DoubleStandard: [[spoiler: Teabing and the Piory]] Piory grievance with the Church is centuries of persecution and deceit. This ignores the fact that those things are also found among some non-Catholic Christians, religions besides Christianity and non-religious people, ideologies and institutions. ]]

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* DoubleStandard: [[spoiler: Teabing and the Piory]] grievance with the Church is centuries of persecution and deceit. This ignores the fact that those things are also found among some non-Catholic Christians, religions besides Christianity and non-religious people, ideologies and institutions.



* StrawmanFallacy: In the film discovering descendants of Jesus is treated as something that would destroy the Catholic church, and [[spoiler: Teabing and the Piory]] wants to bring down the Church for centuries of persecution and deceit. This is a straw argument for several reasons. Aside from the fact that this is a very [[HypocriticalFandom selective]] and [[ConfirmationBias biased]] [[DoubleStandard double standard]], as such things are also found among non-Catholics, non-Christians and the non-religious, in Christianity, Christ's divinity and spiritual authority did not come from human genes, so there's not reason to think his spiritual power can be passed on by them. In addition, God being infinite, it would not be diluted across His descendants; not to mention being Christian cannot be inherited from one's parents, it requires a personal decision. Proving that Jesus had a wife and descendants would be a remarkable finding that would cause a stir, but marriage is a God-ordained union, a sacrament in the Catholic Church and a central feature of Christianity so it would not do what the film claims it would do. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And we'll leave it at that.]]

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* StrawmanFallacy: In the film discovering descendants of Jesus is treated as something that would destroy the Catholic church, and [[spoiler: Teabing and the Piory]] wants to bring down the Church for centuries of persecution and deceit. This is a straw argument for several reasons. Aside from the fact that this is a very [[HypocriticalFandom selective]] and [[ConfirmationBias biased]] [[DoubleStandard double standard]], as such things are also found among non-Catholics, non-Christians and the non-religious, in Christianity, Christ's divinity and spiritual authority did not come from human genes, so there's not reason to think his spiritual power can be passed on by them. In addition, God being infinite, it would not be diluted across His descendants; not to mention being Christian cannot be inherited from one's parents, it requires a personal decision. Proving that Jesus had a wife and descendants would be a remarkable finding that would cause a stir, but marriage is a God-ordained union, a sacrament in the Catholic Church and a central feature of Christianity so it would not do what the film claims it would do. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And we'll leave it at that.]]
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* StrawmanFallacy: In the film discovering descendants of Jesus is treated as something that would destroy the Catholic church, and [[spoiler: Teabing and the Piory]] wants to bring down the Church for centuries of persecution and deceit. This is a straw argument for several reasons. Aside from the fact that this is a very [[HypocriticalFandom selective]] and [[ConfirmationBias biased]] DoubleStandard, as such things are also found among non-Catholics, non-Christians and the non-religious, in Christianity, Christ's divinity and spiritual authority did not come from human genes, so there's not reason to think his spiritual power can be passed on by them. In addition, God being infinite, it would not be diluted across His descendants; not to mention being Christian cannot be inherited from one's parents, it requires a personal decision. Proving that Jesus had a wife and descendants would be a remarkable finding that would cause a stir, but marriage is a God-ordained union, a sacrament in the Catholic Church and a central feature of Christianity so it would not do what the film claims it would do. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And we'll leave it at that.]]

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* StrawmanFallacy: In the film discovering descendants of Jesus is treated as something that would destroy the Catholic church, and [[spoiler: Teabing and the Piory]] wants to bring down the Church for centuries of persecution and deceit. This is a straw argument for several reasons. Aside from the fact that this is a very [[HypocriticalFandom selective]] and [[ConfirmationBias biased]] DoubleStandard, [[DoubleStandard double standard]], as such things are also found among non-Catholics, non-Christians and the non-religious, in Christianity, Christ's divinity and spiritual authority did not come from human genes, so there's not reason to think his spiritual power can be passed on by them. In addition, God being infinite, it would not be diluted across His descendants; not to mention being Christian cannot be inherited from one's parents, it requires a personal decision. Proving that Jesus had a wife and descendants would be a remarkable finding that would cause a stir, but marriage is a God-ordained union, a sacrament in the Catholic Church and a central feature of Christianity so it would not do what the film claims it would do. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And we'll leave it at that.]]
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* StrawmanFallacy: In the film discovering descendants of Jesus is treated as something that would destroy the Catholic church, and [[spoiler: Teabing and the Piory]] wants to bring down the Church for centuries of persecution and deceit. Aside from the fact that this is a very [[HypocriticalFandom selective]] and [[ConfirmationBias biased]] DoubleStandard, as such things are also found among non-Catholics, non-Christians and the non-religious, in Christianity, Christ's divinity and spiritual authority did not come from human genes, so there's not reason to think his spiritual power can be passed on by them. In addition, God being infinite, it would not be diluted across His descendants; not to mention being Christian cannot be inherited from one's parents, it requires a personal decision. Proving that Jesus had a wife and descendants would be a remarkable finding that would cause a stir, but marriage is a God-ordained union, a sacrament in the Catholic Church and a central feature of Christianity so it would not do what the film claims it would do. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And we'll leave it at that.]]

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* StrawmanFallacy: In the film discovering descendants of Jesus is treated as something that would destroy the Catholic church, and [[spoiler: Teabing and the Piory]] wants to bring down the Church for centuries of persecution and deceit. This is a straw argument for several reasons. Aside from the fact that this is a very [[HypocriticalFandom selective]] and [[ConfirmationBias biased]] DoubleStandard, as such things are also found among non-Catholics, non-Christians and the non-religious, in Christianity, Christ's divinity and spiritual authority did not come from human genes, so there's not reason to think his spiritual power can be passed on by them. In addition, God being infinite, it would not be diluted across His descendants; not to mention being Christian cannot be inherited from one's parents, it requires a personal decision. Proving that Jesus had a wife and descendants would be a remarkable finding that would cause a stir, but marriage is a God-ordained union, a sacrament in the Catholic Church and a central feature of Christianity so it would not do what the film claims it would do. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And we'll leave it at that.]]
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* StrawmanFallacy: In the film discovering descendants of Jesus is treated as something that would destroy the Catholic church, and [[spoiler: Teabing and the Piory]] wants to bring down the Church for centuries of persecution and deceit. Aside from the fact that this is a very [[HypocriticalFandom selective]] and [[ConfirmationBias biased]] DoubleStandard, as such things are also found among non-Catholics, non-Christians and the non-religious, in Christianity, Christ's divinity and spiritual authority did not come from human genes, so there's not reason to think his spiritual power can be passed on by them In addition, God being infinite, it would not be diluted across His descendants; not to mention being Christian cannot be inherited from one's parents, it requires a personal decision. Proving that Jesus had a wife and descendants would be a remarkable finding that would cause a stir, but marriage is a God-ordained union, a sacrament in the Catholic Church and a central feature of Christianity so it would not do what the film claims it would do. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And we'll leave it at that.]]

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* StrawmanFallacy: In the film discovering descendants of Jesus is treated as something that would destroy the Catholic church, and [[spoiler: Teabing and the Piory]] wants to bring down the Church for centuries of persecution and deceit. Aside from the fact that this is a very [[HypocriticalFandom selective]] and [[ConfirmationBias biased]] DoubleStandard, as such things are also found among non-Catholics, non-Christians and the non-religious, in Christianity, Christ's divinity and spiritual authority did not come from human genes, so there's not reason to think his spiritual power can be passed on by them them. In addition, God being infinite, it would not be diluted across His descendants; not to mention being Christian cannot be inherited from one's parents, it requires a personal decision. decision. Proving that Jesus had a wife and descendants would be a remarkable finding that would cause a stir, but marriage is a God-ordained union, a sacrament in the Catholic Church and a central feature of Christianity so it would not do what the film claims it would do. do. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And we'll leave it at that.]]
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* StrawmanFallacy: In the film discovering descendants of Jesus is treated as something that would destroy the Catholic church, and [[spoiler: Teabing and the Piory]] wants to bring down the Church for centuries of persecution and deceit. Aside from the fact that this is a very [[HypocriticalFandom selective]] and [[ConfrimationBias biased]] DoubleStandard, as such things are also found among non-Catholics, non-Christians and the non-religious, in Christianity, Christ's divinity and spiritual authority did not come from human genes, so there's not reason to think his spiritual power can be passed on by them In addition, God being infinite, it would not be diluted across His descendants; not to mention being Christian cannot be inherited from one's parents, it requires a personal decision. Proving that Jesus had a wife and descendants would be a remarkable finding that would cause a stir, but marriage is a God-ordained union, a sacrament in the Catholic Church and a central feature of Christianity so it would not do what the film claims it would do. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And we'll leave it at that.]]

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* StrawmanFallacy: In the film discovering descendants of Jesus is treated as something that would destroy the Catholic church, and [[spoiler: Teabing and the Piory]] wants to bring down the Church for centuries of persecution and deceit. Aside from the fact that this is a very [[HypocriticalFandom selective]] and [[ConfrimationBias [[ConfirmationBias biased]] DoubleStandard, as such things are also found among non-Catholics, non-Christians and the non-religious, in Christianity, Christ's divinity and spiritual authority did not come from human genes, so there's not reason to think his spiritual power can be passed on by them In addition, God being infinite, it would not be diluted across His descendants; not to mention being Christian cannot be inherited from one's parents, it requires a personal decision. Proving that Jesus had a wife and descendants would be a remarkable finding that would cause a stir, but marriage is a God-ordained union, a sacrament in the Catholic Church and a central feature of Christianity so it would not do what the film claims it would do. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And we'll leave it at that.]]
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* StrawmanFallacy: In the film discovering descendants of Jesus is treated as something that would destroy the Catholic church, and [[spoiler: Teabing and the Piory]] wants to bring down the Church for centuries of persecution and deceit. Aside from the fact that this is a very [[HypocriticalFandom selective]] and [[ConfrimationBias biased]] DoubleStandard, as such things are also found among non-Catholics, non-Christians and the non-religious, in Christianity, Christ's divinity and spiritual authority did not come from human genes, so there's not reason to think his spiritual power can be passed on by them In addition, God being infinite, it would not be diluted across His descendants; not to mention being Christian cannot be inherited from one's parents, it requires a personal decision. Proving that Jesus had a wife and descendants would be a remarkable finding that would cause a stir, but marriage is a God-ordained union, a sacrament in the Catholic Church and a central feature of Christianity so it would not do what the film claims it would do. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And we'll leave it at that.]]
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* SnarkBait: It seems that a less-than-shiny book assembled from moldy pieces of cryptohistory is ''not'' going to be any less of a target if advertised as a daring innovative idea and (whispering) maybe even a ''really'' relevant theory.
** The fact that it holds the [[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-14006782 record]] for the most frequently donated book gives way to a lot of Snark Bait.
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* DeaderThanDisco: The book, and by extension Dan Brown's whole career, had a good run based purely on the controversy it stirred up from religious types. But this has now long since petered out and you're much more likely to see it talked about as a terribly written mess that doesn't know anything about the history it purports to educate us on.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: See {{Narm}} below. In the movie adaptation, Langdon has an entire speech where he remembers a near-death experience from his childhood, and seems convinced that he survived because he prayed to Jesus to keep him alive. Since the speech wasn't in the book, it may have been added to placate Christian viewers who were upset that the story questioned Jesus' divinity. Note that Langdon definitely isn't a [[HollywoodAtheist hardline atheist]] in the books, but he's rather ambivalent about religion, and he claims that he's had no genuine religious experiences.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: See {{Narm}} below. In the movie adaptation, Langdon has an entire speech where he remembers a near-death experience from his childhood, and seems convinced that he survived because he prayed to Jesus to keep him alive. Since the speech wasn't in the book, it may have been added to placate Christian viewers who were upset that the story questioned Jesus' divinity. Note that Langdon definitely isn't a [[HollywoodAtheist hardline atheist]] in the books, but he's rather ambivalent about religion, and he claims that he's had no genuine religious experiences.



* MartyStu: Robert Langdon may be this.



** Oddly, ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedI'' [[SpiritualLicensee made for a better]] ''Code'' game than the one that was actually produced for the license.
** At least Creator/JenniferHale is voicing Audrey Tautou's character.
** And the music's great.
* WhatCliffHanger: The book had a OneParagraphChapter in which Robert Langdon and his date see a thing inside a box. Whatever the grail was, it wasn't ''that thing'' [[spoiler: (the thing turned out to be a cryptex, i.e., a tube that had a puzzle to be solved for it to open)]]. In fact, done frequently in anything written by Dan Brown. It's pretty much the end of every chapter.

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** Oddly, ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedI'' [[SpiritualLicensee made for a better]] ''Code'' game than the one that was actually produced for the license.
** At least Creator/JenniferHale is voicing Audrey Tautou's character.
** And the music's great.
* WhatCliffHanger: The book had a OneParagraphChapter in which Robert Langdon and his date see a thing inside a box. Whatever the grail was, it wasn't ''that thing'' [[spoiler: (the thing turned out to be a cryptex, i.e., a tube that had a puzzle to be solved for it to open)]]. In fact, done frequently in anything written by Dan Brown. It's pretty much the end of every chapter.chapter.
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** And the music's great.
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** The book perhaps, but Brown's career? He's written 2 other novels after ''The Da Vinci Code'' (''The Lost Symbol'' in 2009 and ''Inferno'' in 2013) that featured Robert Langdon and both of them were hits. And the first novel he wrote featuring Langdon, ''Angels and Demons'', while not as successful as its sequel ended up getting a film after the sequel's success. Both of the novels he's written after ''The Da Vinci Code'' have then also been greenlit to receive film adaptations as well. I'd say that his career's doing just fine.
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** The book perhaps, but Brown's career? He's written 2 other novels after ''The Da Vinci Code'' (''The Lost Symbol'' in 2009 and ''Inferno'' in 2013) that featured Robert Langdon and both of them were hits. And the first novel he wrote featuring Langdon, ''Angels and Demons'', while not as successful as its sequel ended up getting a film after the sequel's success. Both of the novels he's written after ''The Da Vinci Code'' have then also been greenlit to receive film adaptations as well. I'd say that his career's doing just fine.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: See {{Narm}} below. In the movie adaptation, Langdon has an entire speech where he remembers a near-death experience from his childhood, and seems convinced that he survived because he prayed to Jesus to keep him alive. Since the speech wasn't in the book, it may have been added to placate Christian viewers who were upset that the story questioned Jesus' divinity. Note that Langdon definitely isn't a [[HollywoodAtheist hardline atheist]] in the books, but he's rather ambivalent about religion, and he claims that he's had no genuine religious experiences.



* {{Narm}}: Towards the end of the movie, Langdon has a speech where he recalls nearly drowning in a well as a child, and praying to Jesus to keep him alive ("Sometimes I wonder if I wasn't alone down there!"). It's not necessarily badly written, but it has basically ''no'' relation to any other theological topic that comes up in the movie, and it was pretty obviously [[AuthorsSavingThrow stuck in to deflect claims that the book/movie had an atheist message]]. "Oh, Christians are angry that the story questions Jesus' divinity? Well, we better shoehorn in a speech where the hero claims that prayer saved his life..."

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* {{Narm}}: Towards the end of the movie, movie version, Langdon has a speech where he recalls nearly drowning in a well as a child, and praying to Jesus to keep him alive ("Sometimes I wonder if I wasn't alone down there!"). It's not necessarily badly written, but it has basically ''no'' relation to any other theological topic that comes up in the movie, and it was pretty obviously [[AuthorsSavingThrow stuck in to deflect claims that the book/movie original book had an atheist message]]. "Oh, Christians are angry that the story questions Jesus' divinity? Well, we better shoehorn in a speech where the hero claims that prayer saved his life..."



* WhatCliffHanger: The book had a OneParagraphChapter in which Robert Langdon and his date see a thing inside a box. Whatever the grail was, it wasn't ''that thing'' [[spoiler: (the thing turned out to be a cryptex, i.e., a tube that had a puzzle to be solved for it to open)]]. In fact, done frequently in anything written by Dan Brown. It's pretty much the end of every chapter.

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* WhatCliffHanger: The book had a OneParagraphChapter in which Robert Langdon and his date see a thing inside a box. Whatever the grail was, it wasn't ''that thing'' [[spoiler: (the thing turned out to be a cryptex, i.e., a tube that had a puzzle to be solved for it to open)]]. In fact, done frequently in anything written by Dan Brown. It's pretty much the end of every chapter.
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* {{Narm}}: Towards the end of the movie, Langdon has a speech where he recalls nearly drowning in a well as a child, and praying to Jesus to keep him alive ("Sometimes I wonder if I wasn't alone down there!"). It's not necessarily badly written, but it has basically ''no'' relation to any other theological topic that comes up in the movie, and it was pretty obviously [[AuthorsSavingThrow stuck in to deflect claims that the book/movie had an atheist message]]. "Oh, Christians are angry that the story questions Jesus' divinity? Well, we better shoehorn in a speech where the hero claims that prayer saved his life..."



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* OlderThanTheyThink: The idea of an American man and a French woman solving a Templar-related mystery in Europe was first implemented in ''VideoGame/BrokenSword: The Shadow of the Templars''.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: The idea of an American man and a French woman solving uncovering a Templar-related mystery conspiracy involving the Knights Templar and its modern day secret society in Europe was first implemented in ''VideoGame/BrokenSword: The Shadow of the Templars''.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: The idea of an American man and a French woman solving a Templar-related mystery in Europe was first implemented in ''VideoGame/BrokenSword:The Shadow of the Templars''.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: The idea of an American man and a French woman solving a Templar-related mystery in Europe was first implemented in [[''VideoGame/BrokenSword Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars''.]]

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* OlderThanTheyThink: The idea of an American man and a French woman solving a Templar-related mystery in Europe was first implemented in [[''VideoGame/BrokenSword Broken Sword: The ''VideoGame/BrokenSword:The Shadow of the Templars''.]]
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* OlderThanTheyThink: The idea of an American man and a French woman solving a Templar-related mystery in Europe was first implemented in [[VideoGame/BrokenSword ''Broken [[''VideoGame/BrokenSword Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars''.]]
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* DeaderThanDisco: The book, and by extension Dan Brown's whole career, had a good run based purely on the controversy it stirred up from religious types. But this has now long since petered out and you're much more likely to see it talked about as a terribly written mess that doesn't know anything about the history it purports to educate us on.
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* JerkassWoobie: Silas may be violent and somewhat unstable, but he's had a ''really'' shitty life. [[spoiler:By the time he repents, he dies not long after]].

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* WhatCliffhanger: The book had a OneParagraphChapter in which Robert Langdon and his date see a thing inside a box. Whatever the grail was, it wasn't ''that thing''[[spoiler: the thing turned out to be a cryptex, i.e., a tube that had a puzzle to be solved for it to open]]. In fact, done frequently in anything written by Dan Brown. It's pretty much the end of every chapter.





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* WhatCliffhanger: The book had a OneParagraphChapter in which Robert Langdon and his date see a thing inside a box. Whatever the grail was, it wasn't ''that thing''. (The thing turned out to be a cryptex, i.e., a tube that had a puzzle to be solved for it to open) In fact, done frequently in anything written by Dan Brown. It's pretty much the end of every chapter.

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* WhatCliffhangerWhatCliffhanger: The book had a OneParagraphChapter in which Robert Langdon and his date see a thing inside a box. Whatever the grail was, it wasn't ''that thing''. (The thing turned out to be a cryptex, i.e., a tube that had a puzzle to be solved for it to open) In fact, done frequently in anything written by Dan Brown. It's pretty much the end of every chapter.



** At least JenniferHale is voicing Audrey Tautou's character.


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** Oddly, ''AssassinsCreed'' [[SpiritualLicensee made for a better]] ''Code'' game than the one that was actually produced for the license.

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** Oddly, ''AssassinsCreed'' ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedI'' [[SpiritualLicensee made for a better]] ''Code'' game than the one that was actually produced for the license.



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* {{Fetish Fuel}}: Silas seems to accidentally provide this:
** Let's see. Self-flaggelation and the wearing of the ''cilice'' (barbed strip of leather around the thigh) both count as to BDSM. This coupled with his described huge size may just spark a few extra fires. Then there's the fact that he's an albino (if you're into that) and [[{{ArsonMurderAndJaywalking}} he wears a robe]].

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* {{Fetish Fuel}}: Silas seems to accidentally provide this:
** Let's see. Self-flaggelation and the wearing of the ''cilice'' (barbed strip of leather around the thigh) both count as to BDSM. This coupled with his described huge size may just spark a few extra fires. Then there's the fact that he's an albino (if you're into that) and [[{{ArsonMurderAndJaywalking}} he wears a robe]].
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* HoYay: Silas and Aringarosa. Fache and Collet. The first seems to go both ways. The second is more of a case of Collet sorta worshiping Fache and Fache, at first, thinking him not-so-great. The book and film go about it differently, but at the end of each, Fache's opinion of Collet has somewhat improved.
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\n\n* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The Game Of The Movie was a combination beat-em-up / puzzle game with a laughably {{Narm}}tastic script.
** Oddly, ''AssassinsCreed'' [[SpiritualLicensee made for a better]] ''Code'' game than the one that was actually produced for the license.
** At least JenniferHale is voicing Audrey Tautou's character.


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