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** CB/Caboose also to an extent, for being a brutal psychopath in the shape of an innocent-looking red caboose. The fandom’s adoration for him can border on EvilIsSexy in some circles, which is... kinda weird, for, you know, a train.

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** CB/Caboose also to an extent, for being a brutal psychopath in the shape of an innocent-looking red caboose. The fandom’s adoration for him can border on EvilIsSexy in some circles, which is... kinda weird, for, you know, a train.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: The plot ultimately boils down to "''Cinderella'' meets ''Literature/TheLittleEngineThatCould''". If you aren't already wondering what kind of weapons-grade recreational drugs were involved in the writing process, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1WRYoM6vRM have a trailer]].
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* TheyChangedItSoItSucks: A common opinion about many changes introduced after the original 1984 production. Most notably panned is Electra's VillainousBreakdown being replaced with him sharing in Greaseball and CB's comeuppance.

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* TheyChangedItSoItSucks: TheyChangedItNowItSucks: A common opinion about many changes introduced after the original 1984 production. Most notably panned is Electra's VillainousBreakdown being replaced with him sharing in Greaseball and CB's comeuppance.
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Were Still Relevant Dammit is not a trope anymore


* WereStillRelevantDammit: The Hip Hoppers replacing the Rockies in 2003, also replacing their song with a rap. They ended up becoming even ''more'' dated, so they were quietly rewritten a year later to be more like the Rockies (though still with their street outfits), and in the 2018 Bochum rewrite, they were shown the door in favor of bringing the Rockies back.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Depending on the incarnation, the musical includes hate-motivated beatings, a SerialKiller villain, DomesticAbuse, marital infidelity, a young woman singing a solo about her favorite sexual experience, a retired prostitute, a character who maintains an equal-opportunity harem, an ocean's worth of sexual innuendo in general, and references to smoking, alcohol, and drugs. The show manages to get away with all these elements because the characters are anthropomorphic toy trains. The Las Vegas version of the musical, which featured the main female characters in showgirl costumes, actually wasn't intended for kids, but attracted family audiences regardless.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: A recording of ''The New Starlight Express'' starred Mark Cohen as Greaseball, a few years before he would release his quintessential 90s OneHitWonder, "Walking In Memphis."

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* RetroactiveRecognition: A recording of ''The New Starlight Express'' starred Mark Cohen Marc Cohn as Greaseball, a few years before he would release his quintessential 90s OneHitWonder, "Walking In Memphis."
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* AmericansHateTingle: While it was successful in the West End and [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff especially Germany]], it was a BoxOfficeBomb on Broadway, and didn't leave any more of a lasting impression with its UsefulNotes/UnitedStates tours. In [=WaitInTheWing=]'s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTXtLNsrvlI retrospective]], he attributes this not only to market cannibalization with the creator's other successful shows,[[note]]''Theatre/{{Cats}}'' and ''Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' for Creator/AndrewLloydWebber; ''Theatre/LesMiserables'' for Trevor Nunn, John Napier, and David Hersey.[[/note]] but the availability of adrenaline-pumping activities across the country: why watch a show about people going fast on rollerskates, when you could experience these thrills yourself on a roller coaster? The only reason why Americans now [[ColbertBump know about this show at all]] is because of a CutawayGag on ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' poking fun at the show.

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* AmericansHateTingle: While it was successful in the West End and [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff especially Germany]], it was a BoxOfficeBomb on Broadway, and didn't leave any more of a lasting impression with its UsefulNotes/UnitedStates tours. In [=WaitInTheWing=]'s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTXtLNsrvlI retrospective]], he attributes this not only to market cannibalization with the creator's other successful shows,[[note]]''Theatre/{{Cats}}'' and ''Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' for Creator/AndrewLloydWebber; ''Theatre/LesMiserables'' for Trevor Nunn, John Napier, and David Hersey.[[/note]] but the availability of adrenaline-pumping activities across the country: why watch a show about people going fast on rollerskates, when you could experience these thrills yourself on a roller coaster? The only reason why Americans now [[ColbertBump know about this show at all]] is because of a CutawayGag on ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' poking fun at the show.
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* AmericansHateTingle: While it was successful in the West End and [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff especially Germany]], it was a BoxOfficeBomb on Broadway, and didn't leave any more of a lasting impression with its UsefulNotes/UnitedStates tours. In [=WaitInTheWing=]'s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTXtLNsrvlI retrospective]], he attributes this not only to market cannibalization with the creator's other successful shows,[[note]]''Theatre/{{Cats}}'' and ''Theatre/Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' for Creator/AndrewLloydWebber; ''Theatre/LesMiserables'' for Trevor Nunn, John Napier, and David Hersey.[[/note]] but the availability of adrenaline-pumping activities across the country: why watch a show about people going fast on rollerskates, when you could experience these thrills yourself on a roller coaster? The only reason why Americans now [[ColbertBump know about this show at all]] is because of a CutawayGag on ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' poking fun at the show.

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* AmericansHateTingle: While it was successful in the West End and [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff especially Germany]], it was a BoxOfficeBomb on Broadway, and didn't leave any more of a lasting impression with its UsefulNotes/UnitedStates tours. In [=WaitInTheWing=]'s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTXtLNsrvlI retrospective]], he attributes this not only to market cannibalization with the creator's other successful shows,[[note]]''Theatre/{{Cats}}'' and ''Theatre/Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' ''Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' for Creator/AndrewLloydWebber; ''Theatre/LesMiserables'' for Trevor Nunn, John Napier, and David Hersey.[[/note]] but the availability of adrenaline-pumping activities across the country: why watch a show about people going fast on rollerskates, when you could experience these thrills yourself on a roller coaster? The only reason why Americans now [[ColbertBump know about this show at all]] is because of a CutawayGag on ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' poking fun at the show.
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As silly as the premise is, it's proven successful in Britain in Germany. However, it's failed in the United States, making it an example of Americans Hate Tingle.


* AudienceAlienatingPremise: It's a relatively serious musical about talking toy trains.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: It's AmericansHateTingle: While it was successful in the West End and [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff especially Germany]], it was a relatively serious musical BoxOfficeBomb on Broadway, and didn't leave any more of a lasting impression with its UsefulNotes/UnitedStates tours. In [=WaitInTheWing=]'s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTXtLNsrvlI retrospective]], he attributes this not only to market cannibalization with the creator's other successful shows,[[note]]''Theatre/{{Cats}}'' and ''Theatre/Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' for Creator/AndrewLloydWebber; ''Theatre/LesMiserables'' for Trevor Nunn, John Napier, and David Hersey.[[/note]] but the availability of adrenaline-pumping activities across the country: why watch a show about talking toy trains.people going fast on rollerskates, when you could experience these thrills yourself on a roller coaster? The only reason why Americans now [[ColbertBump know about this show at all]] is because of a CutawayGag on ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' poking fun at the show.

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* ParodyDisplacement: Mention this show to people by name and chances are they'll immediately start quoting the ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' CutawayGag of Peter being the only actor in a revival of the show consisting of him just saying "Starlight Express!" over and over until he gets fed up and leaves.



* WeirdAlEffect: Mention this show to people by name and chances are they'll immediately start quoting the ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' CutawayGag of Peter being the only actor in a revival of the show consisting of him just saying "Starlight Express!" over and over until he gets fed up and leaves.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Germans indeed- ''Starlight'' is so popular in Germany, it has a theater built ''specifically for it'' in Bochum, where it's been playing for 30 straight years as of 2018!

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Germans indeed- ''Starlight'' is so popular in Germany, it has a theater built ''specifically for it'' in Bochum, where it's been playing for 30 straight years as of 2018!continuously since 1988!
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* WereStillRelevantDammit: The Hip Hoppers replacing the Rockies in 2003. They ended up becoming even ''more'' dated, so they were quietly rewritten a year later to be more like the Rockies, and in the 2018 Bochum rewrite, they were shown the door in favor of bringing the Rockies back.

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* WereStillRelevantDammit: The Hip Hoppers replacing the Rockies in 2003. 2003, also replacing their song with a rap. They ended up becoming even ''more'' dated, so they were quietly rewritten a year later to be more like the Rockies, Rockies (though still with their street outfits), and in the 2018 Bochum rewrite, they were shown the door in favor of bringing the Rockies back.
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* WereStillRelevantDammit: The Hip Hoppers replacing the Rockies in 2003. They ended up becoming even ''more'' dated, so they were quietly rewritten a year later to be more like the Rockies, and in the 2018 Bochum rewrite, they were shown the door in favor of bringing the Rockies back.
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* EvilIsCool: C.B. is a universally popular character because he's just so delightfully villainous. He crashes trains, but he's so brilliant and entertaining that it's impossible not to like him.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: A recording of ''The New Starlight Express'' starred Mark Cohen as Greaseball, a few years before he would release his quintessential 90s OneHitWonder, "Walking In Memphis."
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* WeirdAlEffect: Mention this show to people by name and chances are they'll immediately start quoting the ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' CutawayGag of Peter being the only actor in a revival of the show and the music being nothing more than him saying "Starlight Express!" over and over until he gets fed up and leaves.

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* WeirdAlEffect: Mention this show to people by name and chances are they'll immediately start quoting the ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' CutawayGag of Peter being the only actor in a revival of the show and the music being nothing more than consisting of him just saying "Starlight Express!" over and over until he gets fed up and leaves.
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** CB/Caboose also to an extent, for being a brutal psychopath in the shape of an innocent-looking red caboose.

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** CB/Caboose also to an extent, for being a brutal psychopath in the shape of an innocent-looking red caboose. The fandom’s adoration for him can border on EvilIsSexy in some circles, which is... kinda weird, for, you know, a train.
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* CultClassic: The dedication exhibited by this show's small group of fans (when compared to the likes of ''ThePhantomOfTheOpera'', ''Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'', ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'', or even ''Theatre/{{Cats}}'') is of ''[[Film/TheRockyHorrorPictureShow Rocky Horror]]''-esque proportions.

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* CultClassic: The dedication exhibited by this show's small group of fans (when compared to the likes of ''ThePhantomOfTheOpera'', ''Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'', ''Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'', ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'', or even ''Theatre/{{Cats}}'') is of ''[[Film/TheRockyHorrorPictureShow Rocky Horror]]''-esque proportions.
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** CB/Caboose also to an extent.

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** CB/Caboose also to an extent.extent, for being a brutal psychopath in the shape of an innocent-looking red caboose.
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* WeirdAlEffect: Mention this show to people by name and chances are they'll immediately start quoting the ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' CutawayGag of Peter being the only actor in a revival of the show and the music being nothing more than him saying "Starlight Express!" over and over until he gets fed up and leaves.
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* TheyChangedItSoItSucks: A common opinion about many changes introduced after the original 1984 production. Most notably panned is Electra's VillainousBreakdown being replaced with him sharing in Greaseball and CB's comeuppance.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Germans indeed- ''Starlight'' is so popular in Germany, it has a theater built ''specifically for it'' in Bochum, where it's been playing for 27 straight years!

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Germans indeed- ''Starlight'' is so popular in Germany, it has a theater built ''specifically for it'' in Bochum, where it's been playing for 27 30 straight years!years as of 2018!
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** This is further played on by the fact that Dinah's solo song is wholly dedicated to how sad she is about their initial break-up, and how she doesn't want to get back with him in the future.

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** This is further played on by the fact that Dinah's solo song is wholly dedicated to how sad she is about their her and Greaseball's initial break-up, and how she doesn't want to get back with him in the future.
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** This is further played on by the fact that Dinah's solo song is wholly dedicated to how sad she is about their initial break-up, and how she doesn't want to get back with him in the future.
---> '''Dinah''': He'll come crawling back one day, and I'll turn to him and say: go away, you B.A.S.T.A.R.D!

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