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* AccidentalAesop: Some fans have [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions taken issue]] with the episode appearing to advocate the theory of intelligent design. However, the Ancient One ''does'' talk of life having evolved, so it's pretty clear the episode is still advocating evolution all the way down -- it's just that it isn't ''Earth'' where the evolution happened.
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* AccidentalAesop: Some fans have [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions taken issue]] with the episode appearing to advocate the theory of intelligent design.design[[note]]which is itself really just a sneaky way of referring to creationism[[/note]]. However, the Ancient One ''does'' talk of life having evolved, so it's pretty clear the episode is still advocating evolution all the way down -- it's just that it isn't ''Earth'' where the evolution happened.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: The actress who played the hologram of the precursor race is Salome Jens, who would later go on to play another similarly-looking character (though considerably less of a friend to all species) on Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: The actress who played the hologram of the precursor race is Salome Jens, who would later go on to play another similarly-looking character (though considerably less of a friend to all species) on Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine.''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''.
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* HarsherInHindsight:
** The ending, when the Romulan Commander privately expresses hope to Picard that the Federation and Romulans may stand in friendship together someday, has become this thanks to ''Film/StarTrek2009'', which showed the obliteration of Romulus.
** ''Star Trek Online'', however, has shown that despite the destruction of Romulus, the survivors have indeed become friends to the Federation, coming together with both them and the Klingons to form the Alliance.
** And then right back around to Harsher again in ''Series/StarTrekPicard'', which shows that the Federation outright abandoned the Romulans (though at least some Romulans are still deeply grateful to Picard for his efforts on their behalf, up to sacrificing his career when he RageQuit Starfleet over their refusal to help after the Mars Incident).
** ...and now ''Series/StarTrekDiscovery'' reveals that [[spoiler:after the surviving Romulans relocated to Vulcan, subsequently renamed Ni'Var, they not only joined the Federation but were strongly in favor of the planet's remaining within the Federation after the Burn -- while the Vulcan majority opposed it.]]
** The ending, when the Romulan Commander privately expresses hope to Picard that the Federation and Romulans may stand in friendship together someday, has become this thanks to ''Film/StarTrek2009'', which showed the obliteration of Romulus.
** ''Star Trek Online'', however, has shown that despite the destruction of Romulus, the survivors have indeed become friends to the Federation, coming together with both them and the Klingons to form the Alliance.
** And then right back around to Harsher again in ''Series/StarTrekPicard'', which shows that the Federation outright abandoned the Romulans (though at least some Romulans are still deeply grateful to Picard for his efforts on their behalf, up to sacrificing his career when he RageQuit Starfleet over their refusal to help after the Mars Incident).
** ...and now ''Series/StarTrekDiscovery'' reveals that [[spoiler:after the surviving Romulans relocated to Vulcan, subsequently renamed Ni'Var, they not only joined the Federation but were strongly in favor of the planet's remaining within the Federation after the Burn -- while the Vulcan majority opposed it.]]
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** ...and now ''Series/StarTrekDiscovery'' reveals that [[spoiler:after the surviving Romulans relocated to Vulcan, subsequently renamed Ni'Var, they were strongly in favor of the planet's remaining within the Federation after the Burn -- while the Vulcan majority opposed it.]]
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** ...and now ''Series/StarTrekDiscovery'' reveals that [[spoiler:after the surviving Romulans relocated to Vulcan, subsequently renamed Ni'Var, they not only joined the Federation but were strongly in favor of the planet's remaining within the Federation after the Burn -- while the Vulcan majority opposed it.]]
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** ...and now ''Series/StarTrekDiscovery'' reveals that [[spoiler:after the surviving Romulans relocated to Vulcan, subsequently renamed Ni'Var, they were strongly in favor of the planet's remaining within the Federation after the Burn -- while the Vulcan majority opposed it.]]
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* RetroactiveRecognition: The actress who played the hologram of the precursor race is Salome Jens, who would later go on to play another similarly-looking character (though considerably less of a friend to all species) on Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The ending, when the Romulan Commander privately expresses hope to Picard that the Federation and Romulans may stand in friendship together someday, has become this thanks to ''Film/StarTrek2009'', which showed the obliteration of Romulus.
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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
** The ending, when the Romulan Commander privately expresses hope to Picard that the Federation and Romulans may stand in friendship together someday, has become this thanks to ''Film/StarTrek2009'', which showed the obliteration of Romulus.
** The ending, when the Romulan Commander privately expresses hope to Picard that the Federation and Romulans may stand in friendship together someday, has become this thanks to ''Film/StarTrek2009'', which showed the obliteration of Romulus.
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** And then right back around to Harsher again in ''Series/StarTrekPicard'', which shows that the Federation outright abandoned the Romulans (though at least some Romulans are still deeply grateful to Picard for his efforts on their behalf, up to sacrificing his career when he RageQuit Starfleet over their refusal to help after the Mars Incident).
* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Who is it that most takes the message of the Precursors to heart? The Federation's ally, the Klingons? The Cardassians? No. It's the ''Romulans'', of all people, who are most willing to consider the meaning of what was left for them to find.
* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Who is it that most takes the message of the Precursors to heart? The Federation's ally, the Klingons? The Cardassians? No. It's the ''Romulans'', of all people, who are most willing to consider the meaning of what was left for them to find.
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** ''Star Trek Online'', however, has shown that despite the destruction of Romulus, the survivors have indeed become friends to the Federation, coming together with both them and the Klingons to form the Alliance.
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* AccidentalAesop: Some fans have [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions taken issue]] with the episode appearing to advocate the theory of intelligent design. It's worth mentioning, however, that the Ancient One talks of life having evolved, so it's pretty clear the episode is still advocating evolution all the way down -- it's just that it isn't ''Earth'' where the evolution happened.
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* AccidentalAesop: Some fans have [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions taken issue]] with the episode appearing to advocate the theory of intelligent design. It's worth mentioning, however, that However, the Ancient One talks ''does'' talk of life having evolved, so it's pretty clear the episode is still advocating evolution all the way down -- it's just that it isn't ''Earth'' where the evolution happened.
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* AccidentalAesop: Some fans have [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions taken issue]] with the episode appearing to advocate the theory of intelligent design. It's worth mentioning, however, that the Ancient One talks of life having evolved, so it's pretty clearly still advocating evolution all the way down -- it's just that it isn't ''Earth'' where the evolution happened.
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* AccidentalAesop: Some fans have [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions taken issue]] with the episode appearing to advocate the theory of intelligent design. It's worth mentioning, however, that the Ancient One talks of life having evolved, so it's pretty clearly clear the episode is still advocating evolution all the way down -- it's just that it isn't ''Earth'' where the evolution happened.
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* AccidentalAesop: Some fans have [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions taken issue]] with the episode appearing to advocate the theory of intelligent design. It's worth mentioning, however, that the Ancient One talks of life having evolved, so it's pretty clearly still evolution all the way down -- it's just that it isn't ''Earth'' where the evolution happened.
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* AccidentalAesop: Some fans have [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions taken issue]] with the episode appearing to advocate the theory of intelligent design. It's worth mentioning, however, that the Ancient One talks of life having evolved, so it's pretty clearly still advocating evolution all the way down -- it's just that it isn't ''Earth'' where the evolution happened.
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* AccidentalAesop: Some fans have [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions taken issue]] with the episode appearing to advocate the theory of intelligent design.
* HarsherInHindsight: The ending, when the Romulan Commander privately expresses hope to Picard that the Federation and Romulans may stand in friendship together someday, has become this thanks to ''Film/StarTrek2009'', which showed the obliteration of Romulus.
* HarsherInHindsight: The ending, when the Romulan Commander privately expresses hope to Picard that the Federation and Romulans may stand in friendship together someday, has become this thanks to ''Film/StarTrek2009'', which showed the obliteration of Romulus.
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* AccidentalAesop: Some fans have [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions taken issue]] with the episode appearing to advocate the theory of intelligent design.
design. It's worth mentioning, however, that the Ancient One talks of life having evolved, so it's pretty clearly still evolution all the way down -- it's just that it isn't ''Earth'' where the evolution happened.
* HarsherInHindsight: The ending, when the Romulan Commander privately expresses hope to Picard that the Federation and Romulans may stand in friendship together someday, has become this thanks to ''Film/StarTrek2009'', which showed the obliteration ofRomulus.Romulus.
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* AccidentalAesop: Some fans have [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions taken issue]] with the episode appearing to advocate the theory of intelligent design.design.
* HarsherInHindsight: The ending, when the Romulan Commander privately expresses hope to Picard that the Federation and Romulans may stand in friendship together someday, has become this thanks to ''Film/StarTrek2009'', which showed the obliteration of Romulus.
* HarsherInHindsight: The ending, when the Romulan Commander privately expresses hope to Picard that the Federation and Romulans may stand in friendship together someday, has become this thanks to ''Film/StarTrek2009'', which showed the obliteration of Romulus.
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* AccidentalAesop: Some fans have taken issue with the episode appearing to advocate the theory of intelligent design.
** No issue there though. The Ancient One talks of having evolved, so it's still evolution all the way down -- it's just that it isn't ''Earth'' where the evolution happened.
* RetroactiveRecognition: Apparently, [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine the Founders]] gave life to more species than just the Vorta and the Jem'Hadar.
** No issue there though. The Ancient One talks of having evolved, so it's still evolution all the way down -- it's just that it isn't ''Earth'' where the evolution happened.
* RetroactiveRecognition: Apparently, [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine the Founders]] gave life to more species than just the Vorta and the Jem'Hadar.
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* AccidentalAesop: Some fans have taken issue with the episode appearing to advocate the theory of intelligent design.
** No issue there though. The Ancient One talks of having evolved, so it's still evolution all the way down -- it's just that it isn't ''Earth'' where the evolution happened.
* RetroactiveRecognition: Apparently, [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine the Founders]] gave life to more species than just the Vorta and the Jem'Hadar.design.
** No issue there though. The Ancient One talks of having evolved, so it's still evolution all the way down -- it's just that it isn't ''Earth'' where the evolution happened.
* RetroactiveRecognition: Apparently, [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine the Founders]] gave life to more species than just the Vorta and the Jem'Hadar.
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** No issue there though. The Ancient One talks of having evolved, so it's still evolution all the way down -- it's just that it isn't ''Earth'' where the evolution happened.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Apparently, [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine the Founders]] gave life to more species than just the Vorta and the Jem'Hadar.
