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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: HarsherInHindsight: The Luke/Leia tension, after ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' anyway. Suddenly it's either extra, extra {{squick}}y or extra, extra [[HilariousInHindsight hilarious]].
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** Alternatively, Luke acts like a total creep for the majority of the book, slapping Leia for next to no reason, telling people she's his servant, and contemplating kissing her in her sleep. It might have been a case of FairForItsDay, but today, some of his behavior comes across as borderline harassment.
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** At one point, Vader's lightsaber is described as [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor blue]].
** Han and Chewie are absent from this book, as Harrison Ford was not guaranteed to return for a sequel (the novel was written to be adapted into a low-budget sequel). 40 years later ''{{Film/Solo}}'' would feature ''only'' Han and Chewie--and no other characters from the original film--on Mimban. For added irony, neither one is played by the same actor as in ''Film/ANewHope''.
* IronWoobie:
** Leia and Halla can both survive just about anything, and have. Luke is just too [[GoodIsDumb sweet and dumb]] to realize Leia's [[BreakTheCutie being mean at all]], just occasionally having hurt feelings and moving on.
** And Leia, at one point, is forced to take Luke's lightsaber and battle Vader to the ''death'', but continues fighting until she literally dies. This can be taken as a metaphor for her even being on Mimban at all--while she really should be in a mind-healer's office dealing with her psychological problems, she just refuses to give up. [[TheDeterminator Under. Any. Circumstances.]]
** In his defense, he's smart enough to not just ask about why she's being a {{Jerkass}}, but shut up when she says she's not ready to talk about it.
** At one point, Vader's lightsaber is described as [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor blue]].
** Han and Chewie are absent from this book, as Harrison Ford was not guaranteed to return for a sequel (the novel was written to be adapted into a low-budget sequel). 40 years later ''{{Film/Solo}}'' would feature ''only'' Han and Chewie--and no other characters from the original film--on Mimban. For added irony, neither one is played by the same actor as in ''Film/ANewHope''.
* IronWoobie:
** Leia and Halla can both survive just about anything, and have. Luke is just too [[GoodIsDumb sweet and dumb]] to realize Leia's [[BreakTheCutie being mean at all]], just occasionally having hurt feelings and moving on.
** And Leia, at one point, is forced to take Luke's lightsaber and battle Vader to the ''death'', but continues fighting until she literally dies. This can be taken as a metaphor for her even being on Mimban at all--while she really should be in a mind-healer's office dealing with her psychological problems, she just refuses to give up. [[TheDeterminator Under. Any. Circumstances.]]
** In his defense, he's smart enough to not just ask about why she's being a {{Jerkass}}, but shut up when she says she's not ready to talk about it.
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* HilariousInHindsight:
** At one point, Vader's lightsaber is described as [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor blue]].
** Han and Chewie are absent from this book, as Harrison Ford was not guaranteed to return for a sequel (the novel was written to be adapted into a low-budget sequel). 40 years later ''{{Film/Solo}}'' would feature ''only'' Han and Chewie--and no other characters from the original film--on Mimban. For added irony, neither one is played by the same actor as in ''Film/ANewHope''.
HilariousInHindsight: Go [[HilariousInHindsight/StarWarsLegends here]].
*IronWoobie:
**IronWoobie: Leia and Halla can both survive just about anything, and have. Luke is just too [[GoodIsDumb sweet and dumb]] to realize Leia's [[BreakTheCutie being mean at all]], just occasionally having hurt feelings and moving on.
**on. And Leia, at one point, is forced to take Luke's lightsaber and battle Vader to the ''death'', but continues fighting until she literally dies. This can be taken as a metaphor for her even being on Mimban at all--while she really should be in a mind-healer's office dealing with her psychological problems, she just refuses to give up. [[TheDeterminator Under. Any. Circumstances.]]
** In his defense, he's smart enough to not just ask about why she's being a {{Jerkass}}, but shut up when she says she's not ready to talk about it.]]
** At one point, Vader's lightsaber is described as [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor blue]].
** Han and Chewie are absent from this book, as Harrison Ford was not guaranteed to return for a sequel (the novel was written to be adapted into a low-budget sequel). 40 years later ''{{Film/Solo}}'' would feature ''only'' Han and Chewie--and no other characters from the original film--on Mimban. For added irony, neither one is played by the same actor as in ''Film/ANewHope''.
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* MemeticMutation: The comic panel where Luke [[DomesticAbuse slaps]] Leia [[DisproportionateRetribution [[ItMakesSenseInContext just because she kept bugging him while he was trying to eat]].
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* HilariousInHindsight:
** At one point, they describe Vader's lightsaber as [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor blue]].
** Han and Chewie are absent from this book, as Harrison Ford was not guaranteed to return for a sequel (the novel was written to be adapted into a low-budget sequel). 40 years later ''{{Film/Solo}}'' would feature ''only'' Han and Chewie--and no other characters from the original film--on Mimban. For added irony, neither one is played by the same actor as in ''Film/ANewHope''.
** At one point, they describe Vader's lightsaber as [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor blue]].
** Han and Chewie are absent from this book, as Harrison Ford was not guaranteed to return for a sequel (the novel was written to be adapted into a low-budget sequel). 40 years later ''{{Film/Solo}}'' would feature ''only'' Han and Chewie--and no other characters from the original film--on Mimban. For added irony, neither one is played by the same actor as in ''Film/ANewHope''.
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* HilariousInHindsight:
** At one point, they describe Vader's lightsaber as [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor blue]].
** Han and Chewie are absent from this book, as Harrison Ford was not guaranteed to return for a sequel (the novel was written to be adapted into a low-budget sequel). 40 years later ''{{Film/Solo}}'' would feature ''only'' Han and Chewie--and no other characters from the original film--on Mimban. For added irony, neither one is played by the same actor as in ''Film/ANewHope''.
** At one point, they describe Vader's lightsaber as [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor blue]].
** Han and Chewie are absent from this book, as Harrison Ford was not guaranteed to return for a sequel (the novel was written to be adapted into a low-budget sequel). 40 years later ''{{Film/Solo}}'' would feature ''only'' Han and Chewie--and no other characters from the original film--on Mimban. For added irony, neither one is played by the same actor as in ''Film/ANewHope''.
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** Vader's artificial right hand in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' should have been because [[spoiler:Luke cut the flesh one off on Mimban]]--or, alternately, the Emperor [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy took it after the first Death Star was lost]]--but was {{Retconned}} by the prequels. Vader seems to go through SerialProsthesis.
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** Vader's artificial right hand in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' should have been because [[spoiler:Luke cut the flesh one off on Mimban]]--or, alternately, the Emperor [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy took it after the first Death Star was lost]]--but was {{Retconned}} by the prequels. Vader seems to go through SerialProsthesis.SerialProstheses.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Leia is [[ShellShockedVeteran in the throes of PTSD]] and being a {{Jerkass}} because of it (or even moving to the realm of outright villain when she asks Luke, who is still insanely naive, to ''murder'' her if they're captured), and Luke is the IronWoobie who [[GoodIsDumb is too stupid to realize Leia's being borderline abusive]].
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
** Leia is [[ShellShockedVeteran in the throes of PTSD]] and being a {{Jerkass}} because of it (or even moving to the realm of outright villain when she asks Luke, who is still insanelynaive, naïve, to ''murder'' her if they're captured), and Luke is the IronWoobie who [[GoodIsDumb is too stupid to realize Leia's being borderline abusive]].
** Leia is [[ShellShockedVeteran in the throes of PTSD]] and being a {{Jerkass}} because of it (or even moving to the realm of outright villain when she asks Luke, who is still insanely
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* FridgeBrilliance: How does Vader know how to turn off C-3PO? He ''built'' C-3PO, and knows the commands that are built into him beyond anything a mind-wipe can get at. When Leia is tortured on the Death Star, why does she seem to have no reaction? Because she's ''still in shock'', and the ''real'' reaction is horribly damaging.
** Vader's artificial right hand in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' should have been because [[spoiler:Luke cut the flesh one off on Mimban]] - or, alternately, the Emperor [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy took it after the first Death Star was lost]] - but was {{Retconned}} by the prequels. Vader seems to go through SerialProsthesis.
** Vader's artificial right hand in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' should have been because [[spoiler:Luke cut the flesh one off on Mimban]] - or, alternately, the Emperor [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy took it after the first Death Star was lost]] - but was {{Retconned}} by the prequels. Vader seems to go through SerialProsthesis.
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* FridgeBrilliance: FridgeBrilliance:
** How does Vader know how to turn off C-3PO? He ''built'' C-3PO, and knows the commands that are built into him beyond anything a mind-wipe can get at. When Leia is tortured on the Death Star, why does she seem to have no reaction? Because she's ''still in shock'', and the ''real'' reaction is horribly damaging.
** Vader's artificial right hand in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' should have been because [[spoiler:Luke cut the flesh one off onMimban]] - or, Mimban]]--or, alternately, the Emperor [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy took it after the first Death Star was lost]] - but lost]]--but was {{Retconned}} by the prequels. Vader seems to go through SerialProsthesis.
** How does Vader know how to turn off C-3PO? He ''built'' C-3PO, and knows the commands that are built into him beyond anything a mind-wipe can get at. When Leia is tortured on the Death Star, why does she seem to have no reaction? Because she's ''still in shock'', and the ''real'' reaction is horribly damaging.
** Vader's artificial right hand in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' should have been because [[spoiler:Luke cut the flesh one off on
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* IronWoobie: Leia and Halla can both survive just about anything, and have. Luke is just too [[GoodIsDumb sweet and dumb]] to realize Leia's [[BreakTheCutie being mean at all]], just occasionally having hurt feelings and moving on.
** And Leia, at one point, is forced to [[spoiler:take Luke's lightsaber and battle Vader to the ''death'']], but continues fighting until she literally [[spoiler:dies]]. This can be taken as a metaphor for her even being on Mimban at all--while she really should be in a mind-healer's office dealing with her psychological problems, she just refuses to give up. [[TheDeterminator Under. Any. Circumstances.]]
** And Leia, at one point, is forced to [[spoiler:take Luke's lightsaber and battle Vader to the ''death'']], but continues fighting until she literally [[spoiler:dies]]. This can be taken as a metaphor for her even being on Mimban at all--while she really should be in a mind-healer's office dealing with her psychological problems, she just refuses to give up. [[TheDeterminator Under. Any. Circumstances.]]
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* IronWoobie: IronWoobie:
** Leia and Halla can both survive just about anything, and have. Luke is just too [[GoodIsDumb sweet and dumb]] to realize Leia's [[BreakTheCutie being mean at all]], just occasionally having hurt feelings and moving on.
** And Leia, at one point, is forced to[[spoiler:take take Luke's lightsaber and battle Vader to the ''death'']], ''death'', but continues fighting until she literally [[spoiler:dies]].dies. This can be taken as a metaphor for her even being on Mimban at all--while she really should be in a mind-healer's office dealing with her psychological problems, she just refuses to give up. [[TheDeterminator Under. Any. Circumstances.]]
** Leia and Halla can both survive just about anything, and have. Luke is just too [[GoodIsDumb sweet and dumb]] to realize Leia's [[BreakTheCutie being mean at all]], just occasionally having hurt feelings and moving on.
** And Leia, at one point, is forced to
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** Han and Chewie are absent from this book as Harrison Ford was not guaranteed to return for a sequel (the novel was written to be adapted into a low-budget sequel). 40 years later ''{{Film/Solo}}'' would feature ''only'' Han and Chewie - and no other characters from the original film - on Mimban. For added irony, neither one is played by the same actor as in ''Film/ANewHope''.
** Han and Chewie are absent from this book as Harrison Ford was not guaranteed to return for a sequel (the novel was written to be adapted into a low-budget sequel). 40 years later ''{{Film/Solo}}'' would feature ''only'' Han and Chewie - and no other characters from the original film - on Mimban. For added irony, neither one is played by the same actor as in ''Film/ANewHope''.
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** At one point, they describe Vader's lightsaber as [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor blue]].
** Han and Chewie are absent from thisbook book, as Harrison Ford was not guaranteed to return for a sequel (the novel was written to be adapted into a low-budget sequel). 40 years later ''{{Film/Solo}}'' would feature ''only'' Han and Chewie - and Chewie--and no other characters from the original film - on film--on Mimban. For added irony, neither one is played by the same actor as in ''Film/ANewHope''.
** At one point, they describe Vader's lightsaber as [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor blue]].
** Han and Chewie are absent from this
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: The Luke/Leia tension, after ''ReturnOfTheJedi'' anyway. Suddenly it's either extra, extra {{squick}}y or extra, extra [[HilariousInHindsight hilarious]].
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: The Luke/Leia tension, after ''ReturnOfTheJedi'' anyway. Suddenly it's either extra, extra {{squick}}y or extra, extra [[HilariousInHindsight hilarious]].
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** Vader's artificial right hand in ReturnOfTheJedi ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' should have been because [[spoiler:Luke cut the flesh one off on Mimban]] - or, alternately, the Emperor [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy took it after the first Death Star was lost]] - but was {{Retconned}} by the prequels. Vader seems to go through SerialProsthesis.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: The Luke/Leia tension, after''ReturnOfTheJedi'' ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' anyway. Suddenly it's either extra, extra {{squick}}y or extra, extra [[HilariousInHindsight hilarious]].
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** Vader's artificial right hand in ReturnOfTheJedi should have been because [[spoiler:Luke cut the flesh one off on Mimban]] - or, alternately, the Emperor [[TheThrawnTrilogy [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy took it after the first Death Star was lost]] - but was {{Retconned}} by the prequels. Vader seems to go through SerialProsthesis.
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** And Leia, at one point, is forced to [[spoiler:take Luke's lightsaber and battle Vader to the ''death'']], but continues fighting until she literally [[spoiler:dies]]. This can be taken as a metaphor for her even being on Mimban at all--while she really should be in a mind-healer's office dealing with her psychological problems, she just refuses to give up. [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Under. Any. Circumstances.]]
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** And Leia, at one point, is forced to [[spoiler:take Luke's lightsaber and battle Vader to the ''death'']], but continues fighting until she literally [[spoiler:dies]]. This can be taken as a metaphor for her even being on Mimban at all--while she really should be in a mind-healer's office dealing with her psychological problems, she just refuses to give up. [[PunctuatedForEmphasis [[TheDeterminator Under. Any. Circumstances.]]
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** And Leia, at one point, is forced to [[spoiler:take Luke's lightsaber and battle Vader to the ''death'']], but continues fighting until she literally [[spoiler:dies]]. This can be taken as a metaphor for her even being on Mimban at all--while she really should be in a mind-healer's office dealing with her psychological problems, she just refuses to give up. [[ThisIsSparta [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Under. Any. Circumstances.]]
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** Though at the end of the book a trapped ''Luke'' tells ''Leia'' to take his lightsaber and kill him, then herself, rather than [[spoiler: face Darth Vader]]. It seems more like a request for a MercyKill than an act of villainy.
* FridgeBrilliance: How does Vader know how to turn off C-3PO? He ''built'' C-3PO, and knows the commands that are built into him beyond anything a mind-wipe can get at. When Leia is tortured on the Death Star, why does she seem to have no reaction? Because she's ''still in shock'', and the ''real'' reaction is horribly damaging.
** Vader's artificial right hand in ReturnOfTheJedi should have been because [[spoiler:Luke cut the flesh one off on Mimban]] - or, alternately, the Emperor [[TheThrawnTrilogy took it after the first Death Star was lost]] - but was {{Retconned}} by the prequels. Vader seems to go through SerialProsthesis.
** Though at the end of the book a trapped ''Luke'' tells ''Leia'' to take his lightsaber and kill him, then herself, rather than [[spoiler: face Darth Vader]]. It seems more like a request for a MercyKill than an act of villainy.
* FridgeBrilliance: How does Vader know how to turn off C-3PO? He ''built'' C-3PO, and knows the commands that are built into him beyond anything a mind-wipe can get at. When Leia is tortured on the Death Star, why does she seem to have no reaction? Because she's ''still in shock'', and the ''real'' reaction is horribly damaging.
** Vader's artificial right hand in ReturnOfTheJedi should have been because [[spoiler:Luke cut the flesh one off on Mimban]] - or, alternately, the Emperor [[TheThrawnTrilogy took it after the first Death Star was lost]] - but was {{Retconned}} by the prequels. Vader seems to go through SerialProsthesis.
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** And Leia, at one point, is forced to [[spoiler:take Luke's lightsaber and battle Vader to the ''death'']], but continues fighting until she literally [[spoiler:dies]]. This can be taken as a metaphor for her even being on Mimban at all--while she really should be in a mind-healer's office dealing with her psychological problems, she just refuses to give up. [[ThisIsSparta Under. Any. Circumstances.]]
** In his defense, he's smart enough to not just ask about why she's being a {{Jerkass}}, but shut up when she says she's not ready to talk about it.
** And Leia, at one point, is forced to [[spoiler:take Luke's lightsaber and battle Vader to the ''death'']], but continues fighting until she literally [[spoiler:dies]]. This can be taken as a metaphor for her even being on Mimban at all--while she really should be in a mind-healer's office dealing with her psychological problems, she just refuses to give up. [[ThisIsSparta Under. Any. Circumstances.]]
** In his defense, he's smart enough to not just ask about why she's being a {{Jerkass}}, but shut up when she says she's not ready to talk about it.
