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** To a lesser example, Luna Cortizone. She is surprisingly popular when you consider she actually shew up in only ''one'' album.
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* JumpingTheShark: For some "Machine qui rêve" is where the DarkerAndEdgier trend went way too far [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and Seccotine's true name revealed as Sophie.]] It was supposed to be the beginning of of a new era but the negative reception stopped Tome and Janry for writing another book. Another candidate is [[ContinuityPorn "Aux sources du Z"]] where [[spoiler: [[MindScrew Spirou settles down with a previous antagonist and gives to Fantasio his past self to live another adventures]] ]]. Then again it was the last book from the duo Morvan and Munuera.
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* CreatorBreakdown: Franquin in the middle of ''QRN sur Bretzelburg''. His "last" album, ''Panade à Champignac'', can either be seen as an affective goodbye to the series... or as a big "Fuck you, I'm going to work on ComicBook/GastonLagaffe instead".
* DaddysLittleVillain: Luna, Vito Cortizone's daughter. [[spoiler:She disapproves of some of her father's methods but still ends up on his side in the end.]]
* DaddysLittleVillain: Luna, Vito Cortizone's daughter. [[spoiler:She disapproves of some of her father's methods but still ends up on his side in the end.]]
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** It should be noted that the example given is from the series "Spirou de...", which is basically a series of adventures unrelated to the canon universe... So this isn't exactly the best example to show how the [[HoYay]] is still alive and kicking...
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: In ''Le Journal d'un ingénu'', did Kassandra Stahl truly loved love Spirou? Or was it just a ploy to convert him into a [[DirtyCommunists communist]]?
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: In ''Le Journal d'un ingénu'', did Kassandra Stahl truly loved Spirou? Or was it just a ploy to convert him into a [[DirtyCommunists communist]]?
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* HarsherInHindsight: In the ''Le Groom vert-de-gris'' Spirou is saved from [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazis]] by a Jewish girl. After the war, he decide to ask her out, but learns that [[FinalSolution she was taken in a train]].
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* HarsherInHindsight: In the ''Le Groom vert-de-gris'' Spirou is saved from [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazis]] by a Jewish girl. After the war, he decide to ask her out, but learns that [[FinalSolution she was taken in a train]].train by guards]].
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* HarsherInHindsight: In the ''Groom Vert'' ''Le Groom vert-de-gris'' Spirou is saved from [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazis]] by a Jewish girl. After the war, he decide to ask her out, but learns that [[FinalSolution she was taken in a train]].
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** In ''Alerte aux Zorkons'' it's implied that Fantasio went back in time and prevented the events of Morvan & Munuera's ''Aux Sources du Z'' from happening.
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** There are things like [[http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/799/fantasiomgoe6.jpg this picture]] to keep the rumors alive and kicking.
*** '''Taken out of context:''' Fantasio wakes up, apparently in the same bed as Spirou. He's covered in a whitish dripping liquid. He shouts "'''The condom!''' We forgot the condom!" (capote means both hood and condom)
*** '''The context:''' Fantasio and Spirou are sleeping in a castle ruin, two separate beds. They used pieces of tarpaulin to keep themselves from the rain, except the one above Fantasio suddenly ripped and unloaded buckets of water on him. He wakes up shouting "'''The hood!''' We forgot the hood!" (on the car, to protect it from rain)
* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The NintendoHard MegaDrive[=/=]SuperNES game, reviewed by [[http://www.joueurdugrenier.fr/spirou-megadrive-2/ the Gamer in the Attic.]]
* VillainDecay: Zorglub, even before his HeelFaceTurn. Also the whole point of ''Le Réveil du Z'', where Zorglub's successor only manages to recreate TheThemeParkVersion of the original's vision.
** There are things like [[http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/799/fantasiomgoe6.jpg this picture]] to keep the rumors alive and kicking.
*** '''Taken out of context:''' Fantasio wakes up, apparently in the same bed as Spirou. He's covered in a whitish dripping liquid. He shouts "'''The condom!''' We forgot the condom!" (capote means both hood and condom)
*** '''The context:''' Fantasio and Spirou are sleeping in a castle ruin, two separate beds. They used pieces of tarpaulin to keep themselves from the rain, except the one above Fantasio suddenly ripped and unloaded buckets of water on him. He wakes up shouting "'''The hood!''' We forgot the hood!" (on the car, to protect it from rain)
* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The NintendoHard MegaDrive[=/=]SuperNES game, reviewed by [[http://www.joueurdugrenier.fr/spirou-megadrive-2/ the Gamer in the Attic.]]
* VillainDecay: Zorglub, even before his HeelFaceTurn. Also the whole point of ''Le Réveil du Z'', where Zorglub's successor only manages to recreate TheThemeParkVersion of the original's vision.
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* HoYay: Spirou and Fantasio, [[HeterosexualLifePartners obviously]].
**obviously]]. There are things like [[http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/799/fantasiomgoe6.jpg this picture]] to keep the rumors alive and kicking.
*** ** '''Taken out of context:''' Fantasio wakes up, apparently in the same bed as Spirou. He's covered in a whitish dripping liquid. He shouts "'''The condom!''' We forgot the condom!" (capote means both hood and condom)
*** ** '''The context:''' Fantasio and Spirou are sleeping in a castle ruin, two separate beds. They used pieces of tarpaulin to keep themselves from the rain, except the one above Fantasio suddenly ripped and unloaded buckets of water on him. He wakes up shouting "'''The hood!''' We forgot the hood!" (on the car, to protect it from rain)
* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The NintendoHard MegaDrive[=/=]SuperNES game, reviewed by [[http://www.joueurdugrenier.fr/spirou-megadrive-2/ theGamer in the Attic.Attic Gamer.]]
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* VillainDecay: Arguably Zorglub, even before his HeelFaceTurn. Also the whole point of ''Le Réveil du Z'', where Zorglub's successor only manages to recreate TheThemeParkVersion of the original's vision.
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** The Triangle went from "globe-spanning barely competent criminal organisation" in ''Du Glucose for Noémie'' to "half a dozen idiots who can't even operate their secret lair's traps correctly" in ''L'Abbaye Truquée''.
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** There are things like [[http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/799/fantasiomgoe6.jpg this picture]] to keep the rumors alive and kicking.
*** '''Taken out of context:''' Fantasio wakes up, apparently in the same bed as Spirou. He's covered in a whitish dripping liquid. He shouts "'''The condom!''' We forgot the condom!" (capote means both hood and condom)
*** '''The context:''' Fantasio and Spirou are sleeping in a castle ruin, two separate beds. They used pieces of tarpaulin to keep themselves from the rain, except the one above Fantasio suddenly ripped and unloaded buckets of water on him. He wakes up shouting "'''The hood!''' We forgot the hood!" (on the car, to protect it from rain)
** There are things like [[http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/799/fantasiomgoe6.jpg this picture]] to keep the rumors alive and kicking.
*** '''Taken out of context:''' Fantasio wakes up, apparently in the same bed as Spirou. He's covered in a whitish dripping liquid. He shouts "'''The condom!''' We forgot the condom!" (capote means both hood and condom)
*** '''The context:''' Fantasio and Spirou are sleeping in a castle ruin, two separate beds. They used pieces of tarpaulin to keep themselves from the rain, except the one above Fantasio suddenly ripped and unloaded buckets of water on him. He wakes up shouting "'''The hood!''' We forgot the hood!" (on the car, to protect it from rain)
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** Because of a strange [[ExecutiveMeddling editorial edict]], Nic & Cauvin could not use Franquin's supporting cast, making their short run very easy to ignore.
** Morvan & Munuera tried to integrate elements from all their predecessors into their run (including Rob-Vel and Fournier), but unfortunately for them many fans wrote off the series after the departure of Tome & Janry.
** Because of a strange [[ExecutiveMeddling editorial edict]], Nic & Cauvin could not use Franquin's supporting cast, making their short run very easy to ignore.
** Morvan & Munuera tried to integrate elements from all their predecessors into their run (including Rob-Vel and Fournier), but unfortunately for them many fans wrote off the series after the departure of Tome & Janry.
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*** Mainly because they lost most of their competent members in previously failed operations told between ''Glucose'' and ''Abbaye''.
*** Mainly because they lost most of their competent members in previously failed operations told between ''Glucose'' and ''Abbaye''.