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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Xavier says they made her female assuming she'd be more docile, which is [[YouNeedToGetLaid seen as funny]] by Preston and [[CriticalResearchFailure it's actually untrue]] as female members in Earthly predatory species tend to be more aggressive than males (it's mostly mammals who buck the trend). But by doing so they actually may have bought themselves more time, considering a female only can have one partner and reproduce more or less one by one while a male can have multiple ones at once and impregnate all of them. And considering what we see of the clearly more dangerous male hybrid in the first sequel, he turns out to be pretty close to being entirely accurate. Basically, RightForTheWrongReasons.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Dr. Xavier Fitch says they made her the alien female assuming because they assumed she'd be more docile, which is [[YouNeedToGetLaid seen as funny]] by Preston and [[CriticalResearchFailure it's actually untrue]] as female members in Earthly predatory species tend to be more aggressive than males (it's mostly mammals who buck the trend). But by doing so they actually may have bought themselves more time, considering a female only can have one partner and reproduce more or less one by one while a male can have multiple ones at once and impregnate all of them. And considering what we see of the clearly more dangerous male hybrid in the first sequel, he turns out to be pretty close to being entirely accurate. Basically, RightForTheWrongReasons.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Xavier says they made her female assuming she'd be more docile, which is [[YouNeedToGetLaid seen as funny]] by Preston and [[CriticalResearchFailure it's actually untrue]] as female members in Earthly predatory species tend to be more aggressive than males (it's mostly mammals who buck the trend). But by doing so they actually may have bought themselves more time, considering a female only can have one partner and reproduce more or less one by one while a male can have multiple ones at once and impregnate all of them. And considering what we see of the male hybrid in the first sequel, he turns out to be pretty close to being entirely accurate. Basically, RightForTheWrongReasons.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Xavier says they made her female assuming she'd be more docile, which is [[YouNeedToGetLaid seen as funny]] by Preston and [[CriticalResearchFailure it's actually untrue]] as female members in Earthly predatory species tend to be more aggressive than males (it's mostly mammals who buck the trend). But by doing so they actually may have bought themselves more time, considering a female only can have one partner and reproduce more or less one by one while a male can have multiple ones at once and impregnate all of them. And considering what we see of the clearly more dangerous male hybrid in the first sequel, he turns out to be pretty close to being entirely accurate. Basically, RightForTheWrongReasons.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Xavier says they made her female assuming she'd be more docile, which is [[YouNeedToGetLaid seen as funny]] by Preston and [[CriticalResearchFailure it's actually untrue]] as female members in Earthly predatory species tend to be more aggressive than males (it's mostly mammals who buck the trend). But by doing so they actually may have bought themselves more time, considering a female only can have one partner and reproduce more or less one by one while a male can have multiple ones at once and impregnate all of them.
** And considering what we see of the male hybrid in the first sequel, he turns out to be pretty close to being entirely accurate.
** Basically, RightForTheWrongReasons.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Xavier says they made her female assuming she'd be more docile, which is [[YouNeedToGetLaid seen as funny]] by Preston and [[CriticalResearchFailure it's actually untrue]] as female members in Earthly predatory species tend to be more aggressive than males (it's mostly mammals who buck the trend). But by doing so they actually may have bought themselves more time, considering a female only can have one partner and reproduce more or less one by one while a male can have multiple ones at once and impregnate all of them.
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them. And considering what we see of the male hybrid in the first sequel, he turns out to be pretty close to being entirely accurate.
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accurate. Basically, RightForTheWrongReasons.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Xavier says they made her female assuming she'd be more docile, which is [[YouNeedToGetLaid seen as funny]] by Preston and [[CriticalResearchFailure it's actually untrue]] as female members in Earthly predatory species tend to be more aggressive than males. But by doing so they actually may have bought themselves more time, considering a female only can have one partner and reproduce more or less one by one while a male can have multiple ones at once and impregnate all of them.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Xavier says they made her female assuming she'd be more docile, which is [[YouNeedToGetLaid seen as funny]] by Preston and [[CriticalResearchFailure it's actually untrue]] as female members in Earthly predatory species tend to be more aggressive than males.males (it's mostly mammals who buck the trend). But by doing so they actually may have bought themselves more time, considering a female only can have one partner and reproduce more or less one by one while a male can have multiple ones at once and impregnate all of them.
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** Basically, RightForTheWrongReasons.
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: The ''Species'' films are mainly known for one thing: Natasha Hensridge taking her clothes off a lot.
* EvilIsSexy

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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: The ''Species'' films are mainly known for one thing: Natasha Hensridge taking her clothes off a lot.
lot. Or her equivalents in the third and fourth movies.
* EvilIsSexyEvilIsSexy: Downright enforced, as the deadly alien hybrids look like supermodels in their human forms.



** Take a real close look at the monster effects at the end of "Species II". The constant strobes are there to make you miss how terrible and awkward they look.

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** Take a real close look at the monster effects at the end of "Species II".''Species II''. The constant strobes are there to make you miss how terrible and awkward they look.



* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: There's no denying ''Species II'' had some pretty awesome scenes.

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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: There's no denying ''Species II'' had some pretty awesome scenes. The original has equally impressive prosthetics, and well done morphing effects (specially in contrast to the dodgy CG in the climax).

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* HilariousInHindsight: One of Sil's victims in the first was named John F. Carey. The 2004 Presidential candidate was John F. ''Kerry'', who was a well-known senator at the time of the movie.

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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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One of Sil's victims in the first was named John F. Carey. The 2004 Presidential candidate was John F. ''Kerry'', who was a well-known senator at the time of the movie.movie.
** The second film has a male astronaut being infected by a black liquid, then impregnating a woman with a rapidly-growing alien lifeform. A near-identical scenario would play out several years later in ''Film/{{Prometheus}}''.
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* NightmareFuel: Many of the deaths are brutal (such as Sil ripping the spine of a woman), the alien transformations are as disgusting as the ones from ''Alien'', and even [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4aydQSu7-E the first movie's soundtrack]] contributes to a creepy atmosphere.

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* NightmareFuel: Many of the deaths are brutal (such as Sil ripping the spine of a woman), the alien transformations are as disgusting as the ones from ''Alien'', and even [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4aydQSu7-E the first movie's soundtrack]] contributes to a creepy atmosphere.atmosphere, while maintaining a sense of innocence and naievete that makes Sil such a relatable (and thus, all the more horrifying) villain.

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* FoeYay: One sided, due to Sil's and Eve's natural instinct to mate, she seems to develop a minor attraction to Preston. However Preston sees them both as a monster that has to be destroyed.

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* FoeYay: One sided, One-sided; due to Sil's Sil and Eve's natural instinct to mate, she seems they seem to develop a minor attraction to Preston. However Preston sees them both as a monster that has to be destroyed.



* {{Sequelitis}}: The first film is generally regarded as most popular due the the various reasons mentioned on the main page. The second tries to make a bigger spectacle which worked for some and not for others.
** The third and fourth films came about by the two picture deal with Syfy. The third pretty much comes off more like you would expect a scifi tv show to. Which to some was a far cry from the first two, while others appreciated it. While the director of the third had plans for the fourth it instead tried to examine a different WhatHappenedToTheMouse and most would probably agree made a film that made the second and third less bothersome.
* SpecialEffectFailure: The aliens prosthetics in ''Species III'' are vastly inferior to what was seen in the two previous films. ''The Awakening'' has similarly bad effects, but for the most part it does a better job of working around them.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: The first film is generally regarded as most popular due the the various reasons mentioned on the main page. The second tries to make a bigger spectacle spectacle, which worked for some and not for others.
** The third and fourth films came about by the two picture two-picture deal with Syfy. The third pretty much comes off more like you would expect a scifi tv TV show to. Which to some was a far cry from the first two, while others appreciated it. While the director of the third had plans for the fourth fourth, it instead tried to examine a different WhatHappenedToTheMouse and most would probably agree made a film that made the second and third less bothersome.
* SpecialEffectFailure: The aliens aliens' prosthetics in ''Species III'' are vastly inferior to what was seen in the two previous films. ''The Awakening'' has similarly bad effects, but for the most part it does a better job of working around them.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The alien species which sent the message with the information to create Sil. Was it all an evil plan to exterminate the human population over the Earth and replace it with Sil's offspring as it looks, or it was a genuinely friendly attempt to share biotechnology which got screwed because Finch and company couldn't handle it the right way?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The alien species which that sent the message with the information to create Sil. Was it all an evil plan to exterminate the human population over the Earth and replace it with Sil's offspring as it looks, or it was a genuinely friendly attempt to share biotechnology which that got screwed because Finch and company couldn't handle it the right way?
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Michelle Williams as the young Sil.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Michelle Williams Creator/MichelleWilliams as the young Sil.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Michelle Williams as the young Sil.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: First film is considered either SoOkayItsAverage or SoBadItsGood. The following ones aren't so lucky. Only the third one has some not too negative reviews.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: First The first film is considered either SoOkayItsAverage or SoBadItsGood. generally regarded as most popular due the the various reasons mentioned on the main page. The following ones aren't so lucky. Only second tries to make a bigger spectacle which worked for some and not for others.
** The third and fourth films came about by the two picture deal with Syfy. The third pretty much comes off more like you would expect a scifi tv show to. Which to some was a far cry from the first two, while others appreciated it. While the director of
the third one has some not too negative reviews.had plans for the fourth it instead tried to examine a different WhatHappenedToTheMouse and most would probably agree made a film that made the second and third less bothersome.
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** Take a real close look at the monster effects at the end of "Species II". The constant strobes are there to make you miss how terrible and awkward they look.
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** And considering what we see of the male hybrid in the first sequel, he turns out to be pretty close to being entirely accurate.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The alien species which sent the message with the information to create Sil. Was it all an evil plan to exterminate the human population over the Earth and replace it with Sil's offspring as it looks, or it was a genuinely friendly attempt to share biotechnology which got screwed because Finch and company couldn't handle it the right way?



* {{Sequelitis}}: First film is considered either OK or SoBadItsGood. The following ones aren't so lucky.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: First film is considered either OK SoOkayItsAverage or SoBadItsGood. The following ones aren't so lucky. Only the third one has some not too negative reviews.



* StrawmanHasAPoint: In the first film, Xavier says they made her female assuming she'd be more docile - but they actually may have bought themselves more time, considering in the sequel we see first hand the damage an attractive male can do when he can have multiple partners at once.
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: There's no denying ''Species II'' had some pretty awesome scenes.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: In the first film, Xavier says they made her female assuming she'd be more docile - but docile, which is [[YouNeedToGetLaid seen as funny]] by Preston and [[CriticalResearchFailure it's actually untrue]] as female members in Earthly predatory species tend to be more aggressive than males. But by doing so they actually may have bought themselves more time, considering in the sequel we see first hand the damage an attractive a female only can have one partner and reproduce more or less one by one while a male can do when he can have multiple partners ones at once.
once and impregnate all of them.
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: There's no denying ''Species II'' had some pretty awesome scenes.
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* FoeYay: One sided, due to Sil's and Eve's natural instinct to mate, she seems to develop a minor attraction to Preston. However Preston sees them both as a monster that has to be destroyed.
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* UnfortunateImplications: in ''Species II'' when Marg Helgenberger's character says that Eve shouldn't be held responsible for her actions and is human too, one of the other characters rebuts her by pointing to the cocoons of the infected astronaut's metamorphosizing offspring and saying "like them". Keep in mind, as far as we know the infected astronaut's children haven't actually done anything bad yet (well, aside from killing their mothers, but that's like holding a human responsible if his mother died in childbirth). [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman Our heroes are about to slaughter them in their sleep purely because of what species they belong to]].
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* UnfortunateImplications: in ''Species II'' when Marg Helgenberger's character says that Eve shouldn't be held responsible for her actions and is human too, one of the other characters rebuts her by pointing to the cocoons of the infected astronaut's metamorphosizing offspring and saying "like them". Keep in mind, as far as we know the infected astronaut's children haven't actually done anything bad yet (well, aside from killing their mothers, but that's like holding a human responsible if his mother died in childbirth). [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman Our heroes are about to slaughter them in their sleep purely because of what species they belong to]]. I'm not saying this isn't justifiable under the circumstances, but if you can have sympathy for Eve you can have sympathy for them. But when they're up there in those cocoons they look obviously inhuman, and that means it's obviously OK to kill them. In the movie they all seem to be portrayed as male, so one suspects a degree of {{The Unfair Sex}} is involved as well.

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* UnfortunateImplications: in ''Species II'' when Marg Helgenberger's character says that Eve shouldn't be held responsible for her actions and is human too, one of the other characters rebuts her by pointing to the cocoons of the infected astronaut's metamorphosizing offspring and saying "like them". Keep in mind, as far as we know the infected astronaut's children haven't actually done anything bad yet (well, aside from killing their mothers, but that's like holding a human responsible if his mother died in childbirth). [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman Our heroes are about to slaughter them in their sleep purely because of what species they belong to]]. I'm not saying this isn't justifiable under the circumstances, but if you can have sympathy for Eve you can have sympathy for them. But when they're up there in those cocoons they look obviously inhuman, and that means it's obviously OK to kill them. In the movie they all seem to be portrayed as male, so one suspects a degree of {{The Unfair Sex}} is involved as well.
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* NightmareFuel: Many of the deaths are brutal (such as Sil ripping the spine of a woman), the alien transformations are as disgusting as the ones from ''Alien'', and even [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4aydQSu7-E the first movie's soundtrack]] contributes to a creepy atmosphere.
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: The ''Species'' films are mainly known for one thing: Natasha Hensridge taking her clothes off a lot.
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** In the first film, the "mist" in the woods outside the hot tub guy's house is patchy, obviously from a smoke machine. Also the ConspicuousCGI when she is shot at the end.

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** In the first film, the "mist" in the woods outside the hot tub guy's house is patchy, obviously from a smoke machine. Also the ConspicuousCGI when she is shot at in the end.final scenes (which H.R. Giger complained about, saying that unlike the animatronics they weren't worthy translations of his design).
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* ParanoiaFuel: See FanDisservice.
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* KarmicDeath: [[spoiler: Fitch]] in the first film, given how he had instigated the events to start with.
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* FridgeBrilliance: In the first movie there's a closeup of Sil in John Carey's garden where she blinks and we see that she has nictitating membranes in addition to "normal" eyelids. You thought that was just there because [[RuleOfCool it looks cool and alien]]. Nictitating membranes are a feature possessed only by semi-aquatic tetrapods, so her having them is a subtle indication that she can function underwater for prolonged periods, [[spoiler:foreshadowing the scene at the film's climax where she hides underwater to elude the heroes]].

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: In the first film, Xavier says they made her female assuming she'd be more docile - but they actually may have bought themselves more time, considering they may have had a ''serial rapist'' on their hands if it were male.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: In the first film, Xavier says they made her female assuming she'd be more docile - but they actually may have bought themselves more time, considering they may in the sequel we see first hand the damage an attractive male can do when he can have had a ''serial rapist'' on their hands if it were male.multiple partners at once.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: In the first film, Xavier says they made her female assuming she'd be more docile - but they actually may have bought themselves more time, considering they may have had a ''serial rapist'' on their hands if it were male.
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** In the first film, the "mist" in the woods outside the hot tub guy's house is patchy, obviously from a smoke machine. Also the ConspicuousCGI when she is shot at the end.
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* FridgeBrilliance: In the first movie there's a closeup of Sil in John Carey's garden where she blinks and we see that she has nictitating membranes in addition to "normal" eyelids. You thought that was just there because [[RuleOfCool it looks cool and alien]]. Nictitating membranes are a feature possessed only by semi-aquatic tetrapods, so her having them is a subtle indication that she can function underwater for prolonged periods, [[spoiler:foreshadowing the scene at the film's climax where she hides underwater to elude the heroes]].
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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: While {{Your Mileage May Vary}} on the film itself, there's no denying ''Species II'' had some pretty awesome scenes.

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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: While {{Your Mileage May Vary}} on the film itself, there's There's no denying ''Species II'' had some pretty awesome scenes.

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