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* HilariousInHindsight: ''Volume 2: Chapter 3'' introduces [[spoiler:the Wild Hunt Grimm, a Grimm that's been around since the days of the Brother Gods and is capable of speaking]]. Come ''RWBY''s eighth season, [[spoiler:we're introduced to the Hound -- a Grimm that, although nowhere near as old as the Wild Hunt as far as we know, is capable of speech]].
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Despite turning the idea of a student being without a team into a deconstruction, readers still weren't thrilled by the decision. ''Volume 2: EPILOGUE'' undoes this by having Shizu become part of a team consisting of Arslan Altan, Reese Chloris and May Zedong.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Despite turning the idea of a student being without a team into a deconstruction, readers still weren't thrilled by the decision.decision of Shizu attending Beacon and without a team of her own. ''Volume 2: EPILOGUE'' undoes this by having Shizu become part of a team consisting of Arslan Altan, Reese Chloris and May Zedong.
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** There were a great many people who were happy to see Raven getting her rules about might makes right thrown back at her face by way of Momonga slaughtering her tribe in front ofher.her.
** [[spoiler:Roy]] undergoing a FateWorseThanDeath was arguably better than watching Raven's subsequent breakdown, especially since the author made them out to be a giant asshole [[spoiler:especially after he left his teammates to die]].
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** [[spoiler:Roy]] undergoing a FateWorseThanDeath was arguably better than watching Raven's subsequent breakdown, especially since the author made them out to be a giant asshole [[spoiler:especially after he left his teammates to die]].
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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoment: Charles confesses to Will that he was unable to save Will from drowning many years ago; Jim's father was the one that pulled Will up out of the water. When Charles says, "You have to stop blaming, sometimes," he seems to be trying to tell himself that as much as Will. Will's response: "I wish you could be happy." One suspects Will figured out long ago that his father wasn't able to help him, and he feels no ill will whatsoever. Charles doesn't realize it -- yet -- but Will accepts his father's flaws and regrets, and loves him no less for them.
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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: While ''Volume 1: PROLOGUE'' was met with overwhelming praise as it showed Raven becoming a BrokenBird, not unlike Overlord's Brain Unglaus, the events covering the first volume of the fanfic have been criticized for following the novel too closely. [[WordOfGod The author admits to having done this because it gives Momonga's introduction to Remnant more impact]].
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** While ''Volume 1: PROLOGUE'' was met with overwhelming praise as it showed Raven becoming a BrokenBird, not unlike Overlord's Brain Unglaus, the events covering the first volume of the fanfic have been criticized for following the novel too closely. [[WordOfGod The author admits to having done this because it gives Momonga's introduction to Remnant moreimpact]].impact]].
** The decision for Shizu to not be placed on a team can also be seen as one, seeing as how the idea has been used to death in many other stories. On the other hand, the author has gone out of his way to deconstruct the idea by having Solos -- students without a team -- having numerous disadvantages, such as being unable to go on missions unless they accompany another team.
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* AssPull: Raven being immune to not only status effects like paralysis, but even ''[[OneHitKill instant death]]''! In the original ending to ''Volume 1: Chapter 3'' Raven even somehow survives '''''[[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill The Goal of All Life is Death]]'''''. While this was changed in the revised ending for Chapter 3, many readers still think that Raven should not possess total immunity, or at the very least be immune to effects that are tier six or seven and below.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: The author themselves has acknowledged this was the case when readers pointed out to them that the ending to ''Volume 1: Chapter 3'' was highly unlikely. To explain, Momonga used [The Goal of All Life is Death] -- a skill that nullifies any and all resistances and immunities to instant death. It's one of Momonga's trump cards, but it also has a ridiculously long cooldown that lasts for days. Momonga used this to test if Raven was capable of resisting it when she somehow nullified his attempt to paralyze her and somehow survive [Grasp Heart], a tier nine instant death spell. This has since been revised, with Momonga instead using [Despair Aura V] to kill off the Branwen Tribe while Albedo restrains Raven.
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* CompleteMonster: '''MR. DARK'''. An implied EmotionEater who takes ImmortalityImmorality to some horrifying places. Leading a CircusOfFear across America, through middle-of-nowhere towns, ruining lives [[RefugeInAudacity in unbelievable ways]] that [[YouHaveToBelieveMe only the least credible sources notice]]. And he's implied to have done this for ''[[OlderThanTheyLook at least a few centuries]]'' ([[TimeAbyss if not longer]]). His [[FauxAffablyEvil cheerful demeanor]] only highlights how [[LackOfEmpathy little humanity he has]] (whenever it's not [[ManipulativeBastard enabling]] one of his various [[DealWithTheDevil deals]]). Never is he presented as funny, quirky or sympathetic, and it's implied that most (if not all) of the freaks [[WasOnceAMan were people whose deals turned out especially bad]]. Raising misery across the centuries either for [[LifeDrinker fuel]] or [[ForTheEvulz shits and giggles]], Dark embodies sadism and cruelty to a shocking degree [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids in a children's book]].
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* FollowTheLeader: Creator/StephenKing clumsily did his own take with ''Literature/NeedfulThings''.
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* CompleteMonster: '''MR. DARK'''. An implied EmotionEater who takes ImmortalityImmorality to some horrifying places. Leading a CircusOfFear across America, through middle-of-nowhere towns, ruining lives [[RefugeInAudacity in unbelievable ways]] that [[YouHaveToBelieveMe only the least credible sources notice]]. And he's implied to have done this for ''[[OlderThanTheyLook at least a few centuries]]'' ([[TimeAbyss if not longer]]). His [[FauxAffablyEvil cheerful demeanor]] only highlights how [[LackOfEmpathy little humanity he has]] (whenever it's not [[ManipulativeBastard enabling]] one of his various [[DealWithTheDevil deals]]). Never is he presented as funny, quirky or sympathetic, and it's implied that most (if not all) of the freaks [[WasOnceAMan were people whose deals turned out especially bad]]. Raising misery across the centuries either for [[LifeDrinker fuel]] or [[ForTheEvulz shits and giggles]], Dark embodies sadism and cruelty to a shocking degree [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids in a children's book]].
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** It's not really any better in the book. [[spoiler: Miss Foley isn't blinded, but she's made ''too'' young-- instead of being the beautiful young woman she was in her prime, she's an adorable little girl... alone, scared, and helpless.]]
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* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler:In the film the old school teacher Miss Foley wishes to be a beautiful young woman again, as she was once regarded as the most beautiful woman in the entire town. She gets her wish and is restored to a lovely young blonde woman, but she is made blind and thus unable to appreciate her own restored beauty among other obvious handicaps, and becomes a prisoner of Mr. Dark and his minions, who lead her around town as part of their stock company, and she is completely unable to escape. When you think about it, being led around for the amusement of your new evil masters is nowhere near as bad as some of the other things they could do to take advantage of a beautiful but helpless woman... assuming they didn't have their way with her off camera.]]
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* CompleteMonster: The film version of Mr. Dark. In the original book, he's a man of BlueAndOrangeMorality and considers all evil to be good and good to be evil, but in the movie, he's just pure evil [[CardCarryingVillain and he fully embraces it.]]
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