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** Mutahar's discussion videos that he does on a daily basis also have gotten annoyance by some fans, especially with the constant usage of ellipses in the title just for the sake of attracting the algorithm. Some are fine with it as it's leading the channel in a newer direction and the videos work due to Muta's dry and snarky behavior, while some find the videos annoying, heavily patronizing or cynical (as most of the videos tend to be Mutahar being annoyed/angry at something) and come off as [[LetsPlay/{{Critikal}} Critikal-lite]] than anything else, just without Charlie's "tired of everything" attitude.

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** Mutahar's discussion videos that he does on a daily basis also have gotten annoyance by some fans, especially with the constant usage of ellipses in the title just for the sake of attracting the algorithm. Some are fine with it as it's leading the channel in a newer direction and the videos work due to Muta's dry and snarky behavior, while some find the videos annoying, heavily patronizing or cynical (as most of the videos tend to be Mutahar being annoyed/angry at something) and come off as [[LetsPlay/{{Critikal}} [[WebVideo/{{Critikal}} Critikal-lite]] than anything else, just without Charlie's "tired of everything" attitude.

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* CondemnedByHistory:
** The wiki regards creepypastas like "Jeff the Killer" and "Sonic.exe" with disdain, encouraging aspiring writers to step away from that path and stating that time has changed since those creepypastas were written, and that they weren't even that original when they were written.
** Mutahar's own opinion on Jeff The Killer and Sonic.exe has changed as well. In his original videos he considered both stories to be fairly decent. But now he sees them as just plain shitpasta's and has retracted his original opinion.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny:
** The wiki regards creepypastas like "Jeff the Killer" and "Sonic.exe" with disdain, encouraging aspiring writers to step away from that path and stating that time has changed since those creepypastas were written, and that they weren't even that original when they were written.
** Mutahar's own opinion on Jeff The Killer and Sonic.exe has changed as well. In his original videos he considered both stories to be fairly decent. But now he sees them as just plain shitpasta's and has retracted his original opinion.
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* ItWasHisSled: Some of the "Mindfuck" pastas can lead to this. Particularly "The Cosmic Destroyer", where in some cases the title gave the ending away [[spoiler:when some of the readers recognized it as Giygas from VideoGame/{{Earthbound}}.]]

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* ItWasHisSled: Some of the "Mindfuck" pastas can lead to this. Particularly "The Cosmic Destroyer", where in some cases the title gave the ending away [[spoiler:when some of the readers recognized it as Giygas from VideoGame/{{Earthbound}}.VideoGame/{{EarthBound|1994}}.]]
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* HoYay: Tyrin and Lonliness in "I Won't Leave You" get this a lot, with some UnfortunateImplications that Tyrin was a pedophile for how lovingly he regards the eevee. WordOfGod says that the two of them were not written to be involved in a sexual relationship, and the sylveon's sweetness comes from AuthorAvatar on one of the writer's side (the story was co-written) and nothing more.

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* HoYay: Tyrin and Lonliness in "I Won't Leave You" get this a lot, with some UnfortunateImplications that Tyrin was a pedophile for how lovingly he regards the eevee. Eevee. WordOfGod says that the two of them were not written to be involved in a sexual relationship, and the sylveon's Sylveon's sweetness comes from AuthorAvatar on one of the writer's side (the story was co-written) and nothing more.

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* MemeticMutation: The [[https://twitter.com/OrdinaryGamers/status/1263912851913224193?s=20 photo of Mutahar during his Ramadan pilgrimage]] became center of memes when he called out a user for accusing of being insensitive to Muslims...despite Mutahar pointing out that ''he'' is Muslim, something even non fans didn't expect (or at best didn't want to come off as stereotyping due to Mutahar's ethnicity).

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The [[https://twitter.com/OrdinaryGamers/status/1263912851913224193?s=20 photo of Mutahar during his Ramadan pilgrimage]] became center of memes when he called out a user for accusing of being insensitive to Muslims...despite Mutahar pointing out that ''he'' is Muslim, something even non fans didn't expect (or at best didn't want to come off as stereotyping due to Mutahar's ethnicity).



* NightmareFuel: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/NightmareFuel/SomeOrdinaryGamers Has its own page]].



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The wiki regards creepypastas like "Jeff the Killer" and "Sonic.exe" with disdain, encouraging aspiring writers to step away from that path and stating that time has changed since those creepypastas were written, and that they weren't even that original when they were written.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: SeinfeldIsUnfunny:
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The wiki regards creepypastas like "Jeff the Killer" and "Sonic.exe" with disdain, encouraging aspiring writers to step away from that path and stating that time has changed since those creepypastas were written, and that they weren't even that original when they were written.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: During one episode of Nostalgic Web Browsing, he visits an older version of Capcom's official website, and makes fun of Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo, questioning [[CapcomSequelStagnation why Capcom would do so many updates of a puzzle game.]] Funny enough, there is no Puzzle Fighter series, because that is the only game. Its title is a bit of SelfDeprecatingHumor on Capcom's part.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Stormlilly, the user who wrote the Shit Pasta "Xenophilia" was later featured again in a new video for another one of their stories, "Heliotropes", shortly after. It was more well-received in comments and by Mutahar himself.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: After weeks of covering malware and scams that Muta believed were easily avoidable, he finally caved during a Discord malware episode and [[https://youtu.be/dn-B-3NPYnY?t=62 felt the need]] to emphasize this:
-->'''Mutahar:''' So, I'm just gonna say it right now-- '''''DO NOT. CLICK. ON. [[ShmuckBait SHADY. LINKS.]]'''''
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** People have also gotten tired of Mutahar's "discussion" videos where it consists of him talking about a recent event on the internet, feeling it detracts from the channel. The constant usage of ellipses in obviously click-baity titles doesn't help either.

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** People have also gotten tired of Mutahar's "discussion" discussion videos where it consists of him talking about a recent event that he does on a daily basis also have gotten annoyance by some fans, especially with the internet, feeling it detracts from the channel. The constant usage of ellipses in obviously click-baity titles doesn't help either.the title just for the sake of attracting the algorithm. Some are fine with it as it's leading the channel in a newer direction and the videos work due to Muta's dry and snarky behavior, while some find the videos annoying, heavily patronizing or cynical (as most of the videos tend to be Mutahar being annoyed/angry at something) and come off as [[LetsPlay/{{Critikal}} Critikal-lite]] than anything else, just without Charlie's "tired of everything" attitude.
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** He's shifted from mostly [=LPing=] creepy games and reading Creepypasta to more generic gaming and pop culture videos with his Deepweb Browsing series being one of the few elements left of his horror days. This coupled with the fact he went as far as [[MissingEpisode removing most of his old Creepypasta videos]] has created a rift between fans of his old content and fans of the channel's new direction.

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** He's shifted His shift from mostly [=LPing=] creepy games and reading Creepypasta Creepypastas to more generic gaming and pop culture videos with his Deepweb Browsing series being one of the few elements left of his horror days. This coupled with the fact he went as far as [[MissingEpisode removing purging most of his old Creepypasta videos]] videos from his channel]] has created a rift between fans of his old content and fans of the channel's new direction.

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* BrokenBase: He's shifted from mostly [=LPing=] creepy games and reading Creepypasta to more generic gaming and pop culture videos with his Deepweb Browsing series being one of the few elements left of his horror days. This coupled with the fact he went as far as [[MissingEpisode removing most of his old Creepypasta videos]] has created a rift between fans of his old content and fans of the channel's new direction.

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He's shifted from mostly [=LPing=] creepy games and reading Creepypasta to more generic gaming and pop culture videos with his Deepweb Browsing series being one of the few elements left of his horror days. This coupled with the fact he went as far as [[MissingEpisode removing most of his old Creepypasta videos]] has created a rift between fans of his old content and fans of the channel's new direction.
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** His laugh off of "[[https://youtu.be/nuTMp_wijMo?t=178 "WEEABOO 'SCREAMER' CRINGE!"]] due to Mutahar's contagious laugh.
** [[https://i.imgur.com/oO49pSv.jpg "MUTAHAR FACE"]] as called by the fans, to the point where Muta even wondered how he even ''made'' that face to begin with.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: After weeks of covering malware and scams that Muta believed were easily avoidable, he finally caved during a Discord malware episode and [[https://youtu.be/dn-B-3NPYnY?t=62 felt the need]] to emphasize this:
-->'''Mutahar:''' So, I'm just gonna say it right now-- '''''DO NOT. CLICK. ON. [[ShmuckBait SHADY. LINKS.]]'''''
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Not YMMV


* SomethingCompletelyDifferent: Sometimes Mutahar will do non-gaming creepypastas every once in a while. The first episode to do this was on the infamous [[http://creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/Squidward%27s_Suicide Squidward's Suicide]] creepypasta.
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* MemeticMutation: The [[https://twitter.com/OrdinaryGamers/status/1263912851913224193?s=20 photo of Mutahar during his Ramadan pilgrimage]] became center of memes when he called out a user for accusing of being insensitive to Muslims...despite Mutahar pointing out that ''he'' is Muslim, something even non fans didn't expect (or at best didn't want to come off as stereotyping due to Mutahar's ethnicity).
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** People have also gotten tired of Mutahar's "discussion" videos where it consists of him talking about a recent event on the internet, feeling it detracts from the channel. The constant usage of ellipses in obviously click-baity titles doesn't help either.
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* BrokenBase: He's shifted from a mostly [=LPing=] creepy games and reading Creepypasta to more generic gaming and pop culture videos with his Deepweb Browsing series being one of the few elements left of his horror days. This coupled with the fact he went as far as [[MissingEpisode removing most of his old Creepypasta videos]] has created a rift between fans of his old content and fans of the channel's new direction.

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* BrokenBase: He's shifted from a mostly [=LPing=] creepy games and reading Creepypasta to more generic gaming and pop culture videos with his Deepweb Browsing series being one of the few elements left of his horror days. This coupled with the fact he went as far as [[MissingEpisode removing most of his old Creepypasta videos]] has created a rift between fans of his old content and fans of the channel's new direction.
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* BrokenBase: He's shifted from a mostly LPing creepy games and reading Creepypasta to more generic gaming and pop culture videos with his Deepweb Browsing Videos being one of the few elements left of his horror days. This coupled with the fact he went as far as [[MissingEpisode removing most of his old Creepypasta videos]] has created a rift between fans of his old content and fans of the channel's new direction.

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* BrokenBase: He's shifted from a mostly LPing [=LPing=] creepy games and reading Creepypasta to more generic gaming and pop culture videos with his Deepweb Browsing Videos series being one of the few elements left of his horror days. This coupled with the fact he went as far as [[MissingEpisode removing most of his old Creepypasta videos]] has created a rift between fans of his old content and fans of the channel's new direction.
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Fleshed out Broken Base a bit to mention the removal of his old videos.


* BrokenBase: Between those who prefer the creepypasta reviews to the Let's Play and Twitch livestreams. The Deep Web videos only further makes the case conflicting.

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* BrokenBase: Between those who prefer the creepypasta reviews to the Let's Play He's shifted from a mostly LPing creepy games and Twitch livestreams. The Deep Web reading Creepypasta to more generic gaming and pop culture videos only further makes with his Deepweb Browsing Videos being one of the case conflicting.few elements left of his horror days. This coupled with the fact he went as far as [[MissingEpisode removing most of his old Creepypasta videos]] has created a rift between fans of his old content and fans of the channel's new direction.
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* MostWonderfulSound:

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* MostWonderfulSound: SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound:
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** Mutahar himself after playing "VideoGame/SadSatan," an infamous horror game he found on the "deep web". The game contained images of actual snuff film gore pornography that made him start gagging at one point, and distorted music that made him feel physically ill. He even had to contact the authorities when he finished editing the video because of the game containing illicit imagery such as the aforementioned snuff porn, and later needed to make a video reassuring viewers that he is physically and mentally fine despite how sick the game made him feel.

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** Mutahar himself after playing "VideoGame/SadSatan," ''VideoGame/SadSatan'', an infamous horror game he found on the "deep web". The game contained images of actual snuff film gore pornography that made him start gagging at one point, and distorted music that made him feel physically ill. He even had to contact the authorities when he finished editing the video because of the game containing illicit imagery such as the aforementioned snuff porn, and later needed to make a video reassuring viewers that he is physically and mentally fine despite how sick the game made him feel.

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* JerkassWoobie: Jason from "A Great Time".



*** JerkassWoobie: Jason from "A Great Time".
** Mutahar himself after playing "VideoGame/SadSatan," an infamous horror game he found on the "deep web." The game contained images of actual snuff film gore pornography that made him start gagging at one point, and distorted music that made him feel physically ill. He even had to contact the authorities when he finished editing the video because of the game containing illicit imagery such as the aforementioned snuff porn, and later needed to make a video reassuring viewers that he is physically and mentally fine despite how sick the game made him feel.

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*** JerkassWoobie: Jason from "A Great Time".
** Mutahar himself after playing "VideoGame/SadSatan," an infamous horror game he found on the "deep web." web". The game contained images of actual snuff film gore pornography that made him start gagging at one point, and distorted music that made him feel physically ill. He even had to contact the authorities when he finished editing the video because of the game containing illicit imagery such as the aforementioned snuff porn, and later needed to make a video reassuring viewers that he is physically and mentally fine despite how sick the game made him feel.feel.
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** A lot of his creepypasta readings are usually done with completely normal gameplay video of related or vaguely related game which help to mitigate the scariness.
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** Mutahar himself after playing "Sad Satan," an infamous horror game he found on the "deep web." The game contained images of actual snuff film gore pornography that made him start gagging at one point, and distorted music that made him feel physically ill. He even had to contact the authorities when he finished editing the video because of the game containing illicit imagery such as the aforementioned snuff porn, and later needed to make a video reassuring viewers that he is physically and mentally fine despite how sick the game made him feel.

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** Mutahar himself after playing "Sad Satan," "VideoGame/SadSatan," an infamous horror game he found on the "deep web." The game contained images of actual snuff film gore pornography that made him start gagging at one point, and distorted music that made him feel physically ill. He even had to contact the authorities when he finished editing the video because of the game containing illicit imagery such as the aforementioned snuff porn, and later needed to make a video reassuring viewers that he is physically and mentally fine despite how sick the game made him feel.
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**Mutahar's own opinion on Jeff The Killer and Sonic.exe has changed as well. In his original videos he considered both stories to be fairly decent. But now he sees them as just plain shitpasta's and has retracted his original opinion.

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