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* AdaptationDecay: Most of the Silvers experience this due to {{Filler}} Docrates/Ghost Saints and the insertion of the Steel Saints. However the biggest cases would be Camus and Hyoga. In the Manga Hyoga[[spoiler: was sent by Camus to kill the other Bronze Saints.]] With this taken out, he came off as one dimensional. The same with Camus except his was due to the insertion of the Crystal Saint being Hyoga's teacher. This resulting in the whole [[AssPull Master's Master mess]].
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** Ikki may not be big in Japan, but he certainly is in the West, particularly South America, where he is regarded as the [[RatedMForManly manliest]] of all (and I mean, ALL) the Saints.
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** ''I Ran'' as covered by [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqcULdDQmR0 Bowling for Soup]], in fact.
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** Most Silver Saints proclaim that they are out to avenge Misty [[AndZoidberg and the others]]. One wonders: "How come he was so popular?"
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* MagnificentBastard: [[spoiler: Saga]] and Radamanthys
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** She's ''entirely'' creepy. She's granite from the shoulders down, for crying out loud!
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** The Gold Saints, definitely. Most fanfiction is about them.
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** Can't forget Deathmask. His lack of a proper name has had fans coming up with various hypotheses. One of the most popular is Carlo.
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** Maybe in its themes, but it doesn't change the fact that it popularized Bishonens in {{Shonen}} anime.
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*** In France, the dubbing made it even worse. Shun was actually voiced by a ''woman'' in the very first episodes, until the dubbing studio realised he was Ikki's brother. I'm not making this up!
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*** In France, the dubbing made it even worse. Shun was actually voiced by a ''woman'' in the very first episodes, until the dubbing studio realised he was Ikki's brother. I'm not making this up!brother
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** There are so many people hate Seiya for reason stated above, and it seems many people forget Seiya keep doing analysis in the first part of the series about saint's fighting style. He is the one who figure it out how Misty's attack works and even Aldebaran's Great Horn. Off course most of this analysis come from Marin's teaching. Yes... in the last part of the series Kurumada seems stop doing it to focus more to the plot. BUT that's doesn't mean Seiya is the most pathetic one especially if one can remember he DIDN'T forget not even a single thing that Marin taught him for years!!! Seiya is not my favorite character but he DESERVE some justice.
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** There are so many people hate Seiya for reason stated above, and it seems many people forget Seiya keep doing analysis in the first part of the series about saint's fighting style. He is the one who figure it out how Misty's attack works and even Aldebaran's Great Horn. Off course most of this analysis come from Marin's teaching. Yes... in the last part of the series Kurumada seems stop doing it to focus more to the plot. BUT that's doesn't mean Seiya is the most pathetic one especially if one can remember he DIDN'T forget not even a single thing that Marin taught him for years!!! Seiya is Some may not my favorite character be a fan of Seiya, but he DESERVE some justice.
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** Also, Aioria/Marin.
** On the Yaoi side of things, there is Hyoga/Shun (who have female love interests; in Hyoga's case, many) and Camus/Milo as two of the most popular couples.
** On the Yaoi side of things, there is Hyoga/Shun (who have female love interests; in Hyoga's case, many) and Camus/Milo as two of the most popular couples.
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* AdaptationDecay: Most of the Silvers experience this due to {{Filler}} Docrates/Ghost Saints and the insertion of the Steel Saints. However the biggest cases would be Camus and Hyoga. In the Manga Hyoga[[spoiler: was sent by Camus to kill the other Bronze Saints.]] With this taken out, he came off as one dimensional. The same with Camus except his was due to the insertion of the Crystal Saint being Hyoga's teacher. This resulting in the whole [[AssPull Master's Master mess]].
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* FanYay: The amount of yaoi fan-art[[hottip:*:8 out of 10 fan created pictures you'll find online are somehow related to shipping and/or FABULOUS!]] and fan-fiction of this series is quite {{egregious}}. This can be [[TaintedByThePreview incredible misleading]] to newcomers; a lot of which think this series is about YaoiGuys, while this one of the manliest old-school Animes you'll ever see. It's right there along ''DragonBall'' and pretty darn close to ''HokutoNoKen'' on the manly scale.
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* HoYay: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkF0JqwIvJ0#t=2m08s Episode 59]] is extremely guilty of this, as Shun volunteered to warm Hyoga's frozen body in the Libra house with his own body, and how! Can you blame the {{Yaoi Fangirl}}s?
** 59? What if it were [[{{Rule34}} 69]]?
** 59? What if it were [[{{Rule34}} 69]]?
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* HoYay: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkF0JqwIvJ0#t=2m08s Episode 59]] 59]][[hottip:*:59? What if it were [[{{Rule34}} 69]]?]] is extremely guilty of this, as Shun volunteered to warm Hyoga's frozen body in the Libra house with his own body, and how! Can you blame the {{Yaoi Fangirl}}s?
**59? What if it were [[{{Rule34}} 69]]?But outside of that (in)famous instance, this series is actually quite devoid of this trope. Don't believe what shippers say!
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** [[MagnificentBastard Delta Megrez Alberich]] from the Asgard Saga also qualifies as this. Easily the only ''unsympathetic'' Odin Warrior without anything similar to PetTheDog moments, as well as incredibly manipulative and selfish. To the point that, while all other God Warriors fought for Hilda's sake, thinking they were doing the right thing, Alberich knew ''exactly'' what was going on and planned to kill everyone involved, so he could retrieve the seven Odin Stones to [[spoiler:resurrect the Odin Cloth and ''kill Hilda himself'']].
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** [[MagnificentBastard Delta Megrez Alberich]] from the Asgard Saga also qualifies as this. Easily the only ''unsympathetic'' Odin Warrior without anything similar to PetTheDog moments, as well as incredibly manipulative and selfish. To the point that, that while all other God Warriors fought for Hilda's sake, truly thinking they were doing the right thing, Alberich knew ''exactly'' what was going on and planned to kill everyone involved, so he could retrieve the seven Odin Stones to [[spoiler:resurrect the Odin Cloth and ''kill Hilda himself'']].
** ''Pegasus Fantasy'', too.
** And the Seiya/Shaina shippers ''hate'' Saori.
** Don't forget the Shiryu/Seiya and Shiryu/Mu fans that bash Shunrei, or the Saori/Seiya fans that hate on Miho ''despite'' how the poor ShyBlueHairedGirl is firmly put in the UnluckyChildhoodFriend role.
** Don't forget the Shiryu/Seiya and Shiryu/Mu fans that bash Shunrei, or the Saori/Seiya fans that hate on Miho ''despite'' how the poor ShyBlueHairedGirl is firmly put in the UnluckyChildhoodFriend role.
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* HoYay: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkF0JqwIvJ0#t=2m08s Episode 59]] is extremely guilty of this, as Shun volunteered to warm Hyoga's frozen body in the Libra house with his own body, and how!
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* HoYay: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkF0JqwIvJ0#t=2m08s Episode 59]] is extremely guilty of this, as Shun volunteered to warm Hyoga's frozen body in the Libra house with his own body, and how!how! Can you blame the {{Yaoi Fangirl}}s?
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* {{Narm}}: In one of the Hades [=OAVs=], there's a scene that features [[MusicalAssassin Siren Sorrento]] in his civilian clothes, talking to [[spoiler: the Poseideon!possessed Julian Solo]]. He was wearing... a dark pink suit and a VERY frilly white shirt. [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Does this remind you of]] [[AceAttorney a certain prosecutor]]?
** Whenever someone [[ManlyTears starts crying]] in this series, their tears roll down their faces -- until they reach the chin. Then they stay there as if they were made of transparent jello. So many {{Tear Jerker}} moments ruined by that little detail.
*** One of the earliest {{Tear Jerker}}s goes to HELL by pretty... [[OffModel questionable perspective shots.]] When [[spoiler: Esmeralda is fatally struck down by her own father]], we see [[spoiler: Ikki]] rushing to the victim's aid... and we see him running towards her from ''below'', as if there was a camera underneath the scene. This gives the impression that the crying [[spoiler: Ikki]] is pretty much swimming in air or crawling to her air, thus making the impact of the scene go POOF.
** Also, many of the Cloths (of all kinds) have very... special designs. Or look really odd when worn. A {{Narm}}tastic example is one of the Spectres, Deadly Beetle Stand... who, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnThetin looks like a real life beetle]]. Or a [[PokeMon a Pinsir]]. What The HELL was Kurumada thinking?!
** Whenever someone [[ManlyTears starts crying]] in this series, their tears roll down their faces -- until they reach the chin. Then they stay there as if they were made of transparent jello. So many {{Tear Jerker}} moments ruined by that little detail.
*** One of the earliest {{Tear Jerker}}s goes to HELL by pretty... [[OffModel questionable perspective shots.]] When [[spoiler: Esmeralda is fatally struck down by her own father]], we see [[spoiler: Ikki]] rushing to the victim's aid... and we see him running towards her from ''below'', as if there was a camera underneath the scene. This gives the impression that the crying [[spoiler: Ikki]] is pretty much swimming in air or crawling to her air, thus making the impact of the scene go POOF.
** Also, many of the Cloths (of all kinds) have very... special designs. Or look really odd when worn. A {{Narm}}tastic example is one of the Spectres, Deadly Beetle Stand... who, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnThetin looks like a real life beetle]]. Or a [[PokeMon a Pinsir]]. What The HELL was Kurumada thinking?!
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* {{Moe}}: Shunrei
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* {{Narm}}: The "tears of jello" ruined so, so many {{tear jerker}}s.
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* {{Narm}}: The "tears of jello" ruined so, so many {{tear jerker}}s.
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* DieForOurShip: The Hyoga/Shun shippers are ''ferocious'' towards Freya.
* FanPreferredCouple: Seiya and Shaina have way more fans than supposedly OfficialCouple Seiya and Saori.
* FashionVictimVillain: the Ghost Saints
* FashionVictimVillain: the Ghost Saints
* HilariousInHindsight: The Latin-American TV dub for the Hades Saga has Seiya voiced by Irwin Daayan. Irwin's break-out role, 12 years ago, was... [[SailorMoon another Seiya]].
* MagnificentBastard: [[spoiler: Saga]] and Radamanthys
* MostAnnoyingSound: Seiya's voice when he was younger, almost more annoying than Crow Jamian's.
* ItWasHisSled: You'll [[SarcasmMode never guess]] who Hades vessel was on Earth.
* UncannyValley: Eurydice's eyes are creepy.
* UncannyValley: Eurydice's eyes are creepy.
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* TheWoobie
** IronWoobie: The five Saints (specially, Shiryu and Shun) and Saori. Yes, even Seiya comes off at this when he's not TheScrappy.
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TheWoobie: June, Seika, Esmeralda and Eurydice.
** IronWoobie: The five Saints (specially, Shiryu andShun) Shun), Saori, Aioria and Saori. Yes, even Seiya comes off at this when he's not TheScrappy.Bud
** IronWoobie: The five Saints (specially, Shiryu and
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Shiryu constantly tops the popularity polls in Japan when the manga was published.
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** Seiya's more like a [[TheWesley Wesley]] if you ask me, given that he's the protagonist and all.
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* SuperlativeDubbing: The Latin-American Spanish dub is legendary amongst Latin anime fans for being one of the absolute best dubs in anime history. In fact, the Spanish voice actors are minor celebrities amongst the series' fans. The only other Spanish-dubbed series that receives this much worship amongst Latin American fans is [[TheSimpsons THE FRIGGIN' SIMPSONS]].
** It certanly helps that Seint Seiya is a ''big'' GatewaySeries for Latin American anime fans. Several of the VA's there were either newbies or had more or less secondary roles until then (the exception was Seiya's VA, Jesús Barrero, already very popular from TheEighties); after Saint Seiya, they got much more stellar roles, like René García (Hyoga) who became ''immensely'' popular as either [[DragonBallZ Vegeta]] or [[SlamDunk Hanamichi Sakuragi]]...
** It certanly helps that Seint Seiya is a ''big'' GatewaySeries for Latin American anime fans. Several of the VA's there were either newbies or had more or less secondary roles until then (the exception was Seiya's VA, Jesús Barrero, already very popular from TheEighties); after Saint Seiya, they got much more stellar roles, like René García (Hyoga) who became ''immensely'' popular as either [[DragonBallZ Vegeta]] or [[SlamDunk Hanamichi Sakuragi]]...
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Virtually unknown in the US, minor success in Japan... massive hit in Europe and Latin America.
** FandomRivalry: In Brazil, against DragonBall. In the rest of Latin America, vs. SailorMoon.
** FandomRivalry: In Brazil, against DragonBall. In the rest of Latin America, vs. SailorMoon.
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* TheScrappy: Seiya, because his victories never come from power, skill, or strategy, but simply [[{{Determinator}} continuing to fight]] [[OnlyAFleshWound beyond any reasonable limit]] ''every damn time''.
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* TheScrappy: TheScrappy / DesignatedProtagonistSyndrome: Seiya, because his victories never come from power, skill, or strategy, but simply [[{{Determinator}} continuing to fight]] [[OnlyAFleshWound beyond any reasonable limit]] ''every damn time''.
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* {{Fanon}}: Due to the age of the series and the fact that it was posted on the Internet more than ten years ago, a ''lot'' of people actually believe that Deathmask's real name is "Angelo". It's a deliciously ironic name, granted, but it's not stated anywhere in the actual series.
* FanNickname: Many fans affectionately dub Shiryu as the "walking blood bank," for obvious reasons.
** Shaka despite of his charisma and seems nothing is ridiculous about him can't escape from how alike he looks with barbie or Ai Minako/ Sailor V. It's a common nickname for Shaka that he is a life size barbie.
** And Camus... Oh Camus, he gets too many nicknames that are all ice related. Some are [[IncrediblyLamePun cool]] and some are downright ridiculous. He even dubbed affectionally as penguin for who knows why?!
* FanNickname: Many fans affectionately dub Shiryu as the "walking blood bank," for obvious reasons.
** Shaka despite of his charisma and seems nothing is ridiculous about him can't escape from how alike he looks with barbie or Ai Minako/ Sailor V. It's a common nickname for Shaka that he is a life size barbie.
** And Camus... Oh Camus, he gets too many nicknames that are all ice related. Some are [[IncrediblyLamePun cool]] and some are downright ridiculous. He even dubbed affectionally as penguin for who knows why?!
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* {{Narm}}: Whenever someone starts crying in this series, their tears roll down their faces — until they reach the chin. Then they stay there as if they were made of transparent jello. So many TearJerker moments ruined by that little detail.
** A rather infamous case: Ikki being BackFromTheDead for the first time. Cue everyone shedding ManlyTears. EVERYONE!
** A rather infamous case: Ikki being BackFromTheDead for the first time. Cue everyone shedding ManlyTears. EVERYONE!
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* {{Narm}}: Whenever someone starts crying in MagnificentBastard [[spoiler: Saga, under the effects of his SplitPersonality. Debates are wild over whether it could be Hades, though this series, has never been explicitly stated (manga vol 13 shows a soul leaving a cleansed Saga ; manga vol 26 showed Shun getting black hair and Ikki pointing out the same thing happened to Saga), though WordOfGod seem to imply that Saga always was this screwed up all along. Probably a case of author changing his mind at some point.]]
** Also, Shaka. Holy COW, Shaka. [[spoiler: And his HeelFaceTurn does ''not'' make him [[GuileHero less manipulative]].]]
*** [[CrazyAwesome Shaka's manipulative way in some way is ]] because he [[spoiler: manage to fool three gold saints to kill him by taunting them, they are pretty much beaten by Tenbu Hourin and what else they had been through to pretend betraying theirtears roll down their faces — until beloved goddess. They cried ManlyTears for him in a sense for nothing because he is pretty much alive, he fooled everyone in sanctuary except Athena, Shion and Dohko. But then again he gave a clue to Athena and the old saint already knew about 8th sense.]]This also considered GoodJobBreakingItHero because [[spoiler: as a direct result of his XanatosGambit the six gold saints left and the bronze saints almost killed themselves for the sake of revenge.]] Good grief no one died. Although he probably knew they reach wouldn't kill anyone.
* MemeticMutation: The Spanish dub (from Mexico, I don't know if thechin. Then they stay there as if they were made dub from Spain applies, too) is full of transparent jello. So many TearJerker moments ruined by that little detail.
** A rather infamous case: Ikki being BackFromTheDeadthis, especially Death Mask calling Shiryu evil for burning his hand. Once again, the pot called the kettle black.
** From the Latin American Spanish dub: "DANCEN ROSAS PIRAÑAS, AAAAAAHHHH!" ("DANCE, PIRANHA ROSES, AAAAAAHHHH!", a parody of Aphrodite [[CallingYourAttacks calling his Black Rose attack]]), "MUERE SEIYAAAAA!" ("DIE, SEIYAAAAAA!", which was delivered by [[spoiler: Saga]]'s LA-VA in an ''extremely'' [[LargeHam hammy]] manner), and a GagDub of the firsttime. Cue everyone shedding ManlyTears. EVERYONE!OP that parodies the HoYay in the series (damn, why can't I find it on Youtube...? T_T).
*** The "DIE, SEIYAAAAAA!" meme exists among the Portuguese-speaking fans as well, complete with a short video of Saga's Brazilian VA delivering the line - [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuVtaSIzCfw with a twist]]. You know it's a meme when even [[DragonBallZ Adult Goku]]'s VA [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udORtVhTRn8 says it]]!
* NeedsMoreLove: In North America.
* NeverLiveItDown: Shiryu, Shiryu, Shiryu...
** Also, Shaka. Holy COW, Shaka. [[spoiler: And his HeelFaceTurn does ''not'' make him [[GuileHero less manipulative]].]]
*** [[CrazyAwesome Shaka's manipulative way in some way is ]] because he [[spoiler: manage to fool three gold saints to kill him by taunting them, they are pretty much beaten by Tenbu Hourin and what else they had been through to pretend betraying their
* MemeticMutation: The Spanish dub (from Mexico, I don't know if the
** A rather infamous case: Ikki being BackFromTheDead
** From the Latin American Spanish dub: "DANCEN ROSAS PIRAÑAS, AAAAAAHHHH!" ("DANCE, PIRANHA ROSES, AAAAAAHHHH!", a parody of Aphrodite [[CallingYourAttacks calling his Black Rose attack]]), "MUERE SEIYAAAAA!" ("DIE, SEIYAAAAAA!", which was delivered by [[spoiler: Saga]]'s LA-VA in an ''extremely'' [[LargeHam hammy]] manner), and a GagDub of the first
*** The "DIE, SEIYAAAAAA!" meme exists among the Portuguese-speaking fans as well, complete with a short video of Saga's Brazilian VA delivering the line - [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuVtaSIzCfw with a twist]]. You know it's a meme when even [[DragonBallZ Adult Goku]]'s VA [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udORtVhTRn8 says it]]!
* NeedsMoreLove: In North America.
* NeverLiveItDown: Shiryu, Shiryu, Shiryu...
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: People who are seeing the series for the first time recently suffer from this. Probably one of the reasons of why it tanked on the USA... that, and the censorship.
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* WallBangers: Thanks to the filler and addition of new characters, the anime has got a few of these.
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** IronWoobie: The five Saints (specially, Shiryu and Shun) and Saori. Yes, even Seiya comes off at this when he's not TheScrappy.
** JerkAssWoobie: More than one of the rivals, magnified [[AlasPoorVillain if they're given good death scenes]]
** StoicWoobie: Pandora.
* {{Woolseyism}}: The Italian dub, see that article for further information.
** IronWoobie: The five Saints (specially, Shiryu and Shun) and Saori. Yes, even Seiya comes off at this when he's not TheScrappy.
** JerkAssWoobie: More than one of the rivals, magnified [[AlasPoorVillain if they're given good death scenes]]
** StoicWoobie: Pandora.
* {{Woolseyism}}: The Italian dub, see that article for further information.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The North American dub'd theme song was [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ7NVjZ-Eyg I Ran]]
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The North American dub'd theme song was [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ7NVjZ-Eyg I Ran]]
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* MagnificentBastard [[spoiler: Saga, under the effects of his SplitPersonality. Debates are wild over whether it could be Hades, though this has never been explicitely stated (manga vol 13 shows a soul leaving a cleansed Saga ; manga vol 26 shows Shun getting black hair and Ikki pointing out the same thing happened to Saga), though WordOfGod seem to imply that Saga always was this screwed up all along. Probably a case of author changing his mind at some point.]]
** Also, Shaka. Holy SHIT, Shaka. [[spoiler: And his HeelFaceTurn does ''not'' make him [[GuileHero less manipulative]].]]
** Well Shaka's manipulative way in some way is [[CrowningMomentOfAwesomeness]] because he [[spoiler: manage to fool three gold saints to kill him by taunting them, they are pretty much beaten by Tenbu Hourin and what else they had been through to pretend betraying their beloved goddess. They cried [[ManlyTears]] for him in a sense for nothing because he is pretty much alive, he fooled everyone in sanctuary except Athena, Shion and Dohko, But then again he give a clue to Athena and the old saint already knew about 8th sense.]]This also considered [[GoodJobBreakingItHero]] because after that [[spoiler: in result of his [[XanatosGambit]]Six gold saints and 4 bronzes that left almost killed themselves for the sake of revenge. Good grief no one died]].
** Also, Shaka. Holy SHIT, Shaka. [[spoiler: And his HeelFaceTurn does ''not'' make him [[GuileHero less manipulative]].]]
** Well Shaka's manipulative way in some way is [[CrowningMomentOfAwesomeness]] because he [[spoiler: manage to fool three gold saints to kill him by taunting them, they are pretty much beaten by Tenbu Hourin and what else they had been through to pretend betraying their beloved goddess. They cried [[ManlyTears]] for him in a sense for nothing because he is pretty much alive, he fooled everyone in sanctuary except Athena, Shion and Dohko, But then again he give a clue to Athena and the old saint already knew about 8th sense.]]This also considered [[GoodJobBreakingItHero]] because after that [[spoiler: in result of his [[XanatosGambit]]Six gold saints and 4 bronzes that left almost killed themselves for the sake of revenge. Good grief no one died]].
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** Well Shaka's manipulative way in some way is [[CrowningMomentOfAwesomeness]] because he [[spoiler: manage to fool three gold saints to kill him by taunting them, they are pretty much beaten by Tenbu Hourin and what else they had been through to pretend betraying their beloved goddess. They cried [[ManlyTears]] for him in a sense for nothing because he is pretty much alive, he fooled everyone in sanctuary except Athena, Shion and Dohko, But then again he give a clue to Athena and the old saint already knew about 8th sense.]]This also considered [[GoodJobBreakingItHero]] because after that [[spoiler: in result of his [[XanatosGambit]]Six gold saints and 4 bronzes that left almost killed themselves for the sake of revenge. Good grief no one died]].
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** There are so many people hate Seiya for reason stated above, and it seems many people forget Seiya keep doing analysis in the first part of the series about saint's fighting style. He is the one who figure it out how Misty's attack works and even Aldebaran's Great Horn. Off course most of this analysis come from Marin's teaching. Yes... in the last part of the series Kurumada seems stop doing it to focus more to the plot. BUT that's doesn't mean Seiya is the most pathetic one especially if one can remember he DIDN'T forget not even a single thing that Marin taught him for years!!! Seiya is not my favorite character but he DESERVE some justice.
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* FridgeBrilliance: The main five Bronze saints are Pegasus, Dragon, Andromeda, Cygnus and Phoenix. The first four are visible only in the Northern hemisphere. Phoenix is only visible in the Southern hemisphere. Suddenly, Ikki not hanging around his {{Nakama}} makes a lot more sense, eh?
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* FridgeBrilliance: The main five Bronze saints saints' constellations are Pegasus, Dragon, Andromeda, Cygnus and Phoenix. The first four are visible only in the Northern hemisphere. Phoenix is only visible in the Southern hemisphere. Suddenly, Ikki not hanging around his {{Nakama}} makes a lot more sense, eh?
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* YouFailPhysicsForever: Seriously, from the FIRST episode, they say that EVERYTHING the saints do is by doing NOTHING BUT CONCENTRATING ON TRYING TO BREAK ITS ATOMS.
** In episode one, they state the reason the saints are able to pull off all the shit they do is by concentrating all their power into one part of their body.
*** We're talking about the same people who can reach [[FasterThanLightTravel the speed of light]] and [[InstantIceJustAddCold absolute zero]]. Physics do not applied to the world of Saint Seiya.
** In episode one, they state the reason the saints are able to pull off all the shit they do is by concentrating all their power into one part of their body.
*** We're talking about the same people who can reach [[FasterThanLightTravel the speed of light]] and [[InstantIceJustAddCold absolute zero]]. Physics do not applied to the world of Saint Seiya.
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* YouFailPhysicsForever: Seriously, from the FIRST episode, they say that EVERYTHING the saints do is by doing NOTHING BUT CONCENTRATING ON TRYING TO BREAK ITS ATOMS.
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* YouFailPhysicsForever: Seriously, from the FIRST episode, they say that EVERYTHING the saints do is by doing NOTHING BUT CONCENTRATING ON TRYING TO BREAK ITS ATOMS.ATOMS.
**In episode one, they state the reason the saints are able to pull off all the shit they do is by concentrating all their power into one part of their body.
*** We're talking about the same people who can reach [[FasterThanLightTravel the speed of light]] and [[InstantIceJustAddCold absolute zero]]. Physics do not applied to the world of Saint Seiya.
**In episode one, they state the reason the saints are able to pull off all the shit they do is by concentrating all their power into one part of their body.
*** We're talking about the same people who can reach [[FasterThanLightTravel the speed of light]] and [[InstantIceJustAddCold absolute zero]]. Physics do not applied to the world of Saint Seiya.
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* YouFailPhysicsForever: Seriously, from the FIRST episode, they say that EVERYTHING the saints do is by doing NOTHING BUT CONCENTRATING ON TRYING TO BREAK ITS ATOMS. Do I even NEED to point out how fucked up this is???
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* YouFailPhysicsForever: Seriously, from the FIRST episode, they say that EVERYTHING the saints do is by doing NOTHING BUT CONCENTRATING ON TRYING TO BREAK ITS ATOMS. Do I even NEED to point out how fucked up this is???
