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** Neptune fares the best out of the three, getting an established backstory, elaboration on his Semblance, and exploration on both his relationship with Sun and [[FunnyAneurysmMoment his hydrophobia]]. Aside from that though, he's largely just left as the butt of numerous jokes, including using his hydrophobia as the basis of one ''in spite'' of being a FunnyAneurysmMoment. Not helping matters is that the InsistentTerminology from the series proper of him being an intellectual is largely an InformedAttribute here, with him instead coming across as TheDitz.

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** Neptune fares the best out of the three, getting an established backstory, elaboration on his Semblance, and exploration on both his relationship with Sun and [[FunnyAneurysmMoment [[HarsherInHindsight his hydrophobia]]. Aside from that though, he's largely just left as the butt of numerous jokes, including using his hydrophobia as the basis of one ''in spite'' of being a FunnyAneurysmMoment.HarsherInHindsight. Not helping matters is that the InsistentTerminology from the series proper of him being an intellectual is largely an InformedAttribute here, with him instead coming across as TheDitz.
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YMMV tropes for ''Literature/RWBYBeforeTheDawn''. For the main series, see [[YMMV/{{RWBY}} here]].

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YMMV tropes for ''Literature/RWBYBeforeTheDawn''. For the main series, series' YMMV tropes, see [[YMMV/{{RWBY}} here]].
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YMMV tropes for ''Literature/RWBYBeforeTheDawn''. For the main series, see [[YMMV/{{RWBY}} here]].
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* BrokenBase: Sun's controversial portrayal has polarized fans between two positions that contain very little common ground. One camp believes he is an [[TheUnapologetic unapologetic]] AdaptationalJerkass, negatively re-casting his actions in the show, and seemingly forgetting that he realized he treated his friends horribly, hence him taking them to Vacuo in the first place. This camp therefore believes the book is unfair to Sun, derailing his character and ignoring the context of Sun's actions in the show. Another camp argues that the novel addresses issues parts of the fandom had with Sun's character in the show, the difference being that the novel gives the audience an insight into his inner thoughts, how the rest of his team really feels, and how they disagree on what Sun's problem really is. This camp therefore believes the book explores in more depth issues that were hinted at, but glossed over, in the show.
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** When Fox and Yatsuhashi learn that Velvet and Sun are gone and need to find out where, they try to interrogate Neptune, with Fox specifically saying they're ''both'' playing bad cop when Neptune asks if it's GoodCopBadCop. While the intent is for the two of them to come across as desperate in trying to find Velvet, it just makes Fox look like an asshole when he exploits Neptune's hydrophobia to try and get information out of him and instead just gives him a panic attack, not helped by the fact Fox ''knows'' what trauma can do to someone thanks to knowing about Coco's {{claustrophobia}}, but that Yatsuhashi ''also'' says there's a line between being harsh and being a bully, only for Fox to just tell him off.

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** When Fox and Yatsuhashi learn that Velvet and Sun are gone and need to find out where, they try to interrogate Neptune, with Fox specifically saying they're ''both'' playing bad cop when Neptune asks if it's GoodCopBadCop. While the intent is for the two of them to come across as desperate in trying to find Velvet, it just makes Fox look like an asshole when he exploits Neptune's hydrophobia to try and get information out of him and instead just gives him a panic attack, not helped by the fact Fox ''knows'' what trauma can do to someone thanks to knowing about Coco's {{claustrophobia}}, but that Yatsuhashi ''also'' says there's a line between being harsh and being a bully, only for Fox to just tell him off.off.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Sun's portrayal in the book split the fandom in half. The first half of the fandom likes the exploration of problematic behavior they felt had been glossed over in the show through deconstructing [[TheDulcineaEffect his habit]] of ditching his team to insert himself into the lives and business of strangers or friends without permission. However, the other half of the fandom was furious with his portrayal, feeling that the novel stripped Sun of his charm and character growth, to so excessively and negatively exaggerate his behavior that he became unrecognizable. The gulf between the feeling that the novel gives him much needed character growth versus the feeling that it completely ruins him frequently turns discussions about the novel into fights.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Sun's portrayal in the book has split the fandom in half. The first half of the fandom likes the exploration of problematic behavior they felt had been glossed over in the show through deconstructing [[TheDulcineaEffect his habit]] of ditching his team to insert himself into the lives and business of strangers or friends without permission. However, the other half of the fandom was furious with his portrayal, feeling that the novel stripped Sun of his charm and character growth, growth to so excessively and negatively exaggerate his behavior that he became unrecognizable. The gulf between the feeling that the novel gives him much needed character growth versus the feeling that it completely ruins him frequently turns discussions about the novel into fights.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Sun's portrayal in the book split the fandom in half. The first half of the fandom likes the exploration of problematic behavior they felt had been glossed over in the show through deconstructing [[TheDulcineaEffect his habit]] of ditching his team to insert himself into the lives and business of strangers or friends without permission. However, the other half of the fandom was furious with his portrayal, feeling that the novel stripped Sun of his charm and character growth, to so excessively and negatively exaggerate his behavior that he became unrecognizable. The gulf between the feeling that the novel gives him much needed character growth versus the feeling that it completely ruins him frequently turns discussions about the novel into fights.

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* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMe Jax Asturias]] is the leader of the Crown, an organization dedicated to restoring the Vacuo monarchy with him in charge. Born with a weakened Aura but a Semblance of MindControl, Jax uses his Semblance to [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil enslave]] any who cross his path, [[SuperhumanTrafficking recruiting them]] for his "army" to destroy Shade Academy. He also manipulates his twin sister Gillian into going along with his plans, forcing her to constantly spend her Aura on him even though he doesn't care about her at all; in fact, as a child, he once attempted to take all of her Aura, which would have killed her if it had succeeded. Jax has a particular dislike for Huntsmen, DrivenByEnvy due to his weak Aura, and specifically targets them for his Semblance whenever he can.

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* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMe Jax Asturias]] is Asturias]], the leader mastermind of the Crown, an organization dedicated is a childish and envious man with delusions of grandeur. Manipulating his close friends and sister into going along with his plans to restoring restore the Vacuo monarchy with him in charge. Born with a weakened Aura but a Semblance of MindControl, charge, planning to purge the "weak" and anyone who wasn't loyal to him, Jax uses his Semblance the Crown to [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil enslave]] any who cross his path, [[SuperhumanTrafficking recruiting them]] for his "army" to destroy Shade Academy. He also manipulates his twin sister Gillian into going along have countless people, including [[WouldHurtAChild children with notable Semblances]], trafficked and enslaved with his plans, forcing her Semblance, leaving them [[AndIMustScream conscious but bent to constantly spend her his will]]. As part of his plan to attack Shade Academy, Jax turns several citizens and minions who displease him into "[[LivingBattery Aura on him vessels]]" to make himself stronger, hoping to use his army to crush the other Kingdoms under his heel, bury them in the sands and rule all of Remnant once he's king. When his plan is failing, Jax "settles" for using his Army to [[TakingYouWithMe go out destroying Shade and his enemies out of spite]], even though attempting to kill his own sister when she tries to save herself--an act he doesn't care about her at all; in fact, as a child, he once had also attempted to take all of her Aura, which would have killed her if it had succeeded. Jax has a particular dislike for Huntsmen, DrivenByEnvy due to his weak Aura, and specifically targets them for his Semblance whenever he can. when they were children.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In the series proper, Neptune's hydrophobia is largely PlayedForLaughs, being used to show he's not as suave as he pretends to be, with his WebAnimation/RWBYChibi incarnation having this be the basis of a third of his gags.[[labelnote:*]]The other two-thirds being his inability to dance and his bromance with Sun such as with the Junior Detectives[[/labelnote]] Here, his hydrophobia is revealed to stem from a deep-seated trauma from when he was a child, and that whenever it starts acting up, he's effectively having a ''panic attack''. Many readers have noted it's nigh impossible to see any of the previous scenes as funny as a result of this development.

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In the series proper, Neptune's hydrophobia is largely PlayedForLaughs, being used to show he's not as suave as he pretends to be, with his WebAnimation/RWBYChibi incarnation having this be the basis of a third of his gags.[[labelnote:*]]The other two-thirds being his inability to dance and his bromance with Sun such as with the Junior Detectives[[/labelnote]] Here, his hydrophobia is revealed to stem from a deep-seated trauma from when he was a child, and that whenever it starts acting up, he's effectively having a ''panic attack''. MisBlamed: Many readers have noted it's nigh impossible to see any of the previous scenes as funny as criticisms leveled at the book place the blame on writer EC Myers, ignoring that while he ''writes'' the novels, the story being told is noted on the cover to be by the series' main writers, Miles, and Kerry, meaning they have a result degree of this development.control on what is done.

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