History YMMV / PuellaMagiOrikoMagica

* EvilIsSexy: Yuma's mother Mako seems to have a nice figure, large breasts and subjects her daughter to vicious physical and verbal (in an official spin-off off the spin-off [[spoiler:she even ends up ''killing'' Yuma]]).

* EvilIsSexy: Yuma's mother Mako seems to have a nice figure, large breasts and subjects her daughter to vicious physical and verbal (in an official spin-off off the spin-off [[spoiler:she even ends up ''killing'' Yuma]].

* EvilIsSexy: Yuma's mother Mako seems to have a nice figure, large breasts and physically and verbally abuses her daughter horribly.

* EvilIsSexy: Yuma's mother Mako seems to have a nice figure, large breasts and physically and verbally abuses her daughter Yuma horribly.

* EvilIsSexy: Yuma's mother Mako seems to have a nice figure, large breasts and physically and verbally abuses her daughter horribly.

** Arguably, also [[spoiler: her murder of Madoka]]. In this particular timeline, [[spoiler:''everyone'' had learned the AwfulTruth, yet thanks to Yuma, they managed ''not'' to fall into despair, so making Madoka swear off becoming a MagicalGirl would've been reasonably easy ''and'' the girls would be GenreSavvy enough to not become witches. There was no need to kill Madoka anymore]]... ''and yet Oriko still did it.'' Likely just to spite Homura over [[spoiler:her death]], rather than anything else.

* HarsherInHindsight[=/=]HilariousInHindsight: Quite a bit of things from ''Oriko'' are reminiscent of things from ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'', even though it's probably coincidental. The things include '''*WARNING ''REBELLION'' SPOILERS*'''[[spoiler: a witch barrier being created before the magical girl becomes a witch, Homura's insistence on saving Madoka against her wishes, and [[EvilCounterpart almost everything]] [[{{Yandere}} about Kirika Kure]].]] Finally there's the matter of Oriko's vision at the start of the series. While it's supposed to be Madoka's witch, it doesn't look much like Walpurgisnacht or Gretchen. It looks more like [[spoiler: a black human figure in a dress, with long hair and/or wings...]]

* BaseBreaker: All three original characters.

** [[spoiler:Madoka's death. Even though it was a ForegoneConclusion due to this being a previous timeline, the last scenes had set up a HopeSpot for her survival. Also while in other timelines, only Homura was there to set her death, here we get an audience from Sayaka, Hitomi, Mami, Kyoko and Yuma. To make things more depressing, WordOfGod states that Homura can only turn back time after a month has passed from her discharge from the hospital, meaning that she had to dwell on her failure to save Madoka in this timeline for days or weeks.]]

* MemeticMutation: It's become [[http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1374/30/1374305912878.jpg quite popular]] to mix Oriko with the "[[UsefulNotes/RonPaul Doom Paul]]" meme.

** Though some fans happily accept both, people who liked ''PuellaMagiKazumiMagica'' seem to hate ''Oriko'', and vice versa, given that they're very different takes. Fans of the ''Kazumi'' call the ''Oriko'' an [[OffModel ugly]], [[DoomedByCanon pointless]], meandering sidestory that does nothing new and borders on unreadability, versus a lengthy and detailed narrative with great art and tons of characters that stands on its own. Fans of ''Oriko'' call ''Kazumi'' a [[FetishRetardant skeevy]], [[OutOfFocus character-overstuffed]], overlong piece of pap that reads like a mix of a DolledUpInstallment and a bad fanfic, versus a dark and deconstructive tale that introduces the best {{Canon Foreigner}}s of the franchise and makes great use of the original material.

* BetterThanCanon: Pixiv user [[http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=55107 nobita]]'s two-part comic "Girls and the End of the World" ([[http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=23069432 1]], [[http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=23121436 2]]), which focuses on the conflicts between Oriko's and Homura's opposing goals and motives, with absolutely ''gorgeous'' art. Many people are surprised when they see pictures of it and find out it's not from canon.
* CounterpartComparison: A number of of people have found that Oriko, Kirika, and Yuma resemble various VideoGame/{{Touhou}} characters; for example, Yuma has been noted to look like Kisume and the common depiction of Daiyousei. Meanwhile, Kirika has a number of similarities to Renko Usami, while Oriko is much like Marbiel Hearn [[spoiler:and Yukari Yakumo]]. The artist of ''Oriko Magica'' has drawn Touhou fanart.

** And Oriko's weapon resembles [[spoiler:Reimu's Hakurei Ying-Yang orbs, or Marisa's Orreries Sun.]]

* FandomRivalry: Though some fans happily accept both, people who liked ''PuellaMagiKazumiMagica'' seem to hate ''Oriko'', and vice versa, given that they're very different takes. Fans of the former call the latter an [[OffModel ugly]], [[DoomedByCanon pointless]], meandering sidestory that does nothing new and borders on unreadability, versus a lengthy and detailed narrative with great art and tons of characters that stands on its own. Fans of the latter call the former a [[FetishRetardant skeevy]], [[OutOfFocus character-overstuffed]], overlong piece of pap that reads like a mix of a DolledUpInstallment and a bad fanfic, versus a dark and deconstructive tale that introduces the best {{Canon Foreigner}}s of the franchise and makes great use of the original material.
** Of course, there are also those who think both series are equally inferior to the anime.

* HeartwarmingInHindsight; Mami and Kyouko's interactions in Oriko Magica can be seen as this after listening to the 3rd CD Drama and/or reading ''The Different Story'' spinoff. Despite their partnership ending sourly in the past, the two manage to interact in civil terms, in contrast to ''The Different Story'' and the PSP Portable game where their reunion was more hostile. When Mami meets up with Kyouko, she warns her about the Magical Girl killings and Kyouko doesnt hesitate to bail Mami out when Oriko and Kirika had taken over the school. Then there's their victory fight against Witch!Kirika which is more poignant if you consider this is their first witch fight together in a long while.
* IAmNotShazam: Oriko, [[spoiler:one of the main villains in the manga]] is often confused with Yuma, the little girl with green pigtails who appears of the cover of the first volume.
* LesYay: Oriko and Kirika, who value each other above anyone else.
** Not to mention Kirika's wish was to [[spoiler: change her personality just so Oriko would like her more.]]

* MagnificentBitch: [[spoiler:Oriko]]

* MoralEventHorizon: Oriko [[spoiler:releasing a Charlotte-like Witch in Madoka's class. Which is actually ''her friend Kirika transformed into a witch''. [[NauseaFuel And Witch!Kirika's familiars proceed to chomp Kazuko]]. And that's not mentioning how many innocent students die in that attack... aside of Madoka]].
** Arguably, also [[spoiler: her murder of Madoka. In this particular timeline, ''everyone'' had learned the AwfulTruth yet thanks to Yuma they managed to '''not''' fall into despair, so making Madoka swear off becoming a MagicalGirl would've been reasonably easy ''and'' the girls would be GenreSavvy enough to not become witches. There was no need to kill Madoka anymore - '''and yet Oriko still did it.''' Likely just to spite Homura over her own death, rather than anything else.]]
** Even worse [[spoiler: is the fact that the Walpurgis Night is still around, which has shown to be unstoppable except for Madoka whose the only one with the potential to defeat it. It's possible that Madoka would still become a magical girl after learning of the AwfulTruth, but it's not far-fetched to say she'll likely make the same wish she did at the end of the anime. In her own self-righteousness, Oriko thinks she has saved the city, but in reality she actually has doomed it because she has killed the only one who can defeat the Walpurgis Night.]]
* {{Narm}}: Due to the art-style, some things are ''really'' hard to take seriously. For example, Yuma just saw her parents killed right in front of her, and she's wondering where she's going to go. It's a really sad scene, until...she makes [[http://www.mangareader.net/mahou-shoujo-oriko-magica/1/23 this]] face (bottom right panel.)
** Goddamnit, Madoka! You just saw [[spoiler: your teacher being eaten alive]], the witch familiars are attacking everyone, ''and'' you've just been separated from your friends. [[http://www.mangareader.net/mahou-shoujo-oriko-magica/5/12 DON'T MAKE THAT CUTESY FACE]]! (bottom left)

* NightmareFuel:[[spoiler: 19 pages into the first chapter, and we already get our [[http://www.mangareader.net/mahou-shoujo-oriko-magica/1/19 first instance of this trope.]] (Bottom middle panel.)]]

** [[spoiler:The scene of Kazuko-sensei being chomped by a Witch in chapter 5.]]
* OffscreenMomentOfAwesome: After the RousingSpeech by Yuma, Mami promised that they will make Kyubey pay for tricking them after they beat Oriko. But then Homura [[spoiler:rewinds time before that happened because Madoka died.]] God damn it, Homura.
* TearJerker:[[spoiler:Madoka's death. Even though it was a ForegoneConclusion due to this being a previous timeline, the last scenes had set up a HopeSpot for her survival. Also while in other timelines, only Homura was there to set her death, here we get an audience from Sayaka, Hitomi, Mami, Kyoko and Yuma. To make things more depressing, WordOfGod states that Homura can only turn back time after a month has passed from her discharge from the hospital, meaning that she had to dwell on her failure to save Madoka in this timeline for days or weeks.]]

* TheScrappy: Some readers ''really'' don't like Yuma.
* UncannyValley: [[spoiler: Since its unchanging smile is harder to convey in the manga, Kyuubey is instead drawn with something more like FishEyes, taking it from unnaturally cute to just plain deformed-looking.]]
* TheWoobie: Yuma. Poor kid deserves a ''lot'' of hugs and comforting for all the trauma she's been through even before the story began.
** JerkassWoobie: This being [[CrapsackWorld Madoka Magica]] and all. It doesn't take long for Oriko and Kirika to enter Woobiedom either.
*** It's hard not to feel a twinge of sympathy for Oriko when we see a flashback of her [[spoiler:sitting all alone in a corner of her vandalized house, wrapped up in a bedsheet with teary eyes after her father, a politician, committed suicide after it's revealed that he was embezzling funds. Everyone turns against Oriko, leaving her completely alone (which is bad enough in and of itself, but it also implies that the only reason they hung around her was because of who her father was). Cue Kyubey's entrance.]]

* BetterThanCanon: ''[[http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/girls_and_the_end_of_the_world Girls and the End of the World]]'' is fantastically well-drawn and condenses the events of the manga into the core conflict between Homura's selfish love and Oriko's selfless hatred. Many people are surprised when they see pictures of it and find it's not from the actual series.

*** It's hard not to feel a twinge of sympathy for Oriko when we see a flashback of her [[spoiler:sitting all alone in a corner of her vandalized house, wrapped up in a bedsheet with teary eyes after her father, a politician, committed suicide after it's revealed that he was embezzling funds. Everyone turns against Oriko, leaving her completely alone (which is bad enough in and of itself, but it also implies that the only reason they hung around her was because of who her father was). Cue Kyubey's entrance.]]

* MemeticMutation: It's become [[http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1374/30/1374305912878.jpg quite popular]] to mix Oriko with the "[[RonPaul Doom Paul]]" meme.

* HarsherInHindsight[=/=]HilariousInHindsight: Quite a bit of things from ''Oriko'' are reminiscent of things from ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'', even though it's probably coincidental. The things include '''*WARNING ''REBELLION'' SPOILERS*'''[[spoiler: a witch barrier being created before the magical girl becomes a witch, Homura's insistence on saving Madoka against her wishes, and [[EvilCounterpart almost everything]] [[{{Yandere}} about Kirika Kure]].]] Finally there's the matter of Oriko's vision at the start of the series. While it's supposed to be Madoka's witch, it doesn't look much like Walpurgisnacht or Gretchen. It looks more like [[spoiler: a human figure in a dress, with long hair and/or wings...]]

* DracoInLeatherPants: Following ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]'', "ORIKO WAS RIGHT" ended up becoming something of a meme. (Even though it doesn't really make sense. Oriko was trying to kill [[spoiler: Madoka, who saved even more lives that Oriko did]], and Oriko viewed [[spoiler: Homura]] as an obstacle to that goal.)

* HarsherInHindsight[=/=]HilariousInHindsight: Quite a bit of things from ''Oriko'' are reminiscent of things from ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebelion'', even though it's probably coincidental. The things include '''*WARNING ''REBELLION'' SPOILERS*'''[[spoiler: a witch barrier being created before the magical girl becomes a witch, Homura's insistence on saving Madoka against her wishes, and [[EvilCounterpart almost everything]] [[{{Yandere}} about Kirika Kure]].]] Finally there's the matter of Oriko's vision at the start of the series. While it's supposed to be Madoka's witch, it doesn't look much like Walpurgisnacht or Gretchen. It looks more like [[spoiler: a human figure in a dress, with long hair and/or wings...]]

* DracoInLeatherPants: Following ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]'', "ORIKO WAS RIGHT" ended up becoming something of a meme.

* DracoInLeatherPants: Following ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]'', "ORIKO WAS RIGHT" ended up becoming something of a meme. (Despite the fact that it makes no sense; Oriko was gunning for [[spoiler: Madoka]], not the other character.)

* HarsherInHindsight[=/=]HilariousInHindsight: Quite a bit of things from ''Oriko'' are reminiscent of things from ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagucaTheMovieRebelion'', even though it's probably coincidental. The things include '''*WARNING ''REBELLION'' SPOILERS*'''[[spoiler: a witch barrier being created before the magical girl becomes a witch, Homura's insistence on saving Madoka against her wishes, and [[EvilCounterpart almost everything]] [[{{Yandere}} about Kirika Kure]].]] Finally there's the matter of Oriko's vision at the start of the series. While it's supposed to be Madoka's witch, it doesn't look much like Walpurgisnacht or Gretchen. It looks more like [[spoiler: a human figure in a dress, with long hair and/or wings...]]

* DracoInLeatherPants: Following ''[[PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]'', "ORIKO WAS RIGHT" ended up becoming something of a meme.

* HilariousInHindsight: Though it's probably coincidental, Oriko's vision at the start of the series doesn't look much like Walpurgisnacht or Gretchen. It looks more like an entirely different figure known for wearing [[PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion a black dress, with long black hair]]...

** This being [[CrapsackWorld Madoka Magica]] and all. It doesn't take long for Oriko and Kirika to enter Woobiedom either.

** Even worse [[spoiler: is the fact that the Walpurgis Night is still around, which has shown to be unstoppable except for Madoka whose the only one with the potential to defeat it. It's possible that Madoka would still become a magical girl after learning of the AwfulTruth, but it's not far-fetched to say she'll likely make the same wish she did at the end of the anime. In her own self-righteousness, Oriko thinks she has saved the world, but in reality she actually has doomed it because she has killed the only one who can defeat the Walpurgis Night.]]

* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In a flashback, after a young Oriko pledges her efforts to help her father, he offers her a reward, and she says, "Daddy, you can't give out bribes!", to which he laughs and says she "got (him) there". [[spoiler:Taking money that doesn't belong to him, on the other hand...]]