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* FandomRivalry: Chances are, if a person likes hacks with original regions and/or Fakemon, they aren't going to be a fan of ''Radical Red'' and the many hacks it inspired, with the reverse also being true. The ''VideoGame/PokemonQuarantineCrystal'' fandom is arguably the most vocal and vitriolic in regards to ''Radical Red'', while fans of the latter dislike ''Quarantine Crystal'''s focus on Fakemon and lack of documentation.



* HypeBacklash: The game was incredibly hyped up when it released due to how impressive it was on a technical level. However, several players found the game's difficulty to be more annoying than genuinely challenging, causing some to turn against it. The release of other Custom ''[=FireRed=]'' Upgrade Engine-based hacks like ''VideoGame/PokemonUnbound'', many of which had more diverse difficulty options, only served to exacerbate this.

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* HypeBacklash: The game was incredibly hyped up when it released due to how impressive it was on a technical level. However, several players found the game's difficulty to be more annoying than genuinely challenging, causing some to turn against it. The release fact that much of other the game's technical prowess comes from the Custom ''[=FireRed=]'' Upgrade Engine-based Engine and more technically impressive hacks like ''VideoGame/PokemonUnbound'', many of which had more diverse difficulty options, ''VideoGame/PokemonUnbound'' have come out that use the engine only served serves to exacerbate this.this. There are also players who dislike the hack's impact on the hacking scene as a whole; see OnceOriginalNowCommon below.



* OnceOriginalNowCommon: While difficulty-based enhancement hacks are nothing new, ''Radical Red'' was the first of its kind to include the entirety of the National Pokédex as well as all generational battle gimmicks at the time of its original release[[note]][[VideoGame/PokemonScarletAndViolet Terastallization]] was skipped even when other Gen IX content was added[[/note]] and drastic changes to weaker Pokémon's stats and even typings. Following the hack's release, several other National Pokédex difficulty hacks have released for different games, making the hack seem much less special. Additionally, the amount of ''Radical Red'' [[FollowTheLeader imitators]] has put a foul taste in the mouths of players who dislike competitive-oriented hacks and desire more original regions and Fakemon.



* TearJerker:
** The Return TM is given by a girl near Lavender Town, saying that she doesn't need it anymore. Given how Lavender Town is the graveyard of Pokémon and Return is a move based on ThePowerOfFriendship, this poor girl lost a dear companion and is still grieving her loss deeply.

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TearJerker: The Return TM is now given by a girl near Lavender Town, saying that she doesn't need it anymore. Given how Lavender Town is the graveyard of Pokémon and Return is a move based on ThePowerOfFriendship, this poor girl lost a dear companion and is still grieving her loss deeply.
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** Snom in the Viridian Forest, Buneary on Route 3 and Riolu in the Mt. Moon Basement Floor. What do these have in common? These are ''friendship'' evolutions, meaning they can evolve incredibly early, made even easier with an in-game cheat code that provides infinite friendship-raising Pomeg Berries. Their evolutions Frosmoth, Lopunny and Lucario all come with stats that are incredibly overpowered for the early game and it's all too easy to bulldoze through trainers with them. As of Version 4.1 Riolu has been nerfed to evolve at a fixed level of 30 rather than friendship, preventing you from acquiring Lucario before beating Misty, though Frosmoth and Lopunny remain untouched.

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** Snom in the Viridian Forest, Buneary on Route 3 and Riolu in the Mt. Moon Basement Floor. What do these have in common? These are ''friendship'' evolutions, meaning they can evolve incredibly early, made even easier with an in-game cheat code that provides infinite friendship-raising Pomeg Berries. Their evolutions Frosmoth, Lopunny and Lucario all come with stats that are incredibly overpowered for the early game and it's all too easy to bulldoze through trainers with them. As of Version 4.1 1, Riolu has been nerfed to evolve at a fixed level of 30 rather than friendship, preventing you the player from acquiring Lucario before beating Misty, though Frosmoth and Lopunny remain untouched.
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** Snom in the Viridian Forest, Buneary on Route 3 and Riolu in the Mt. Moon Basement Floor. What do these have in common? These are ''friendship'' evolutions, meaning they can evolve incredibly early, made even easier with an in-game cheat code that provides infinite friendship-raising Pomeg Berries. Their evolutions Frosmoth, Lopunny and Lucario all come with stats that are incredibly overpowered for the early game and it's all too easy to bulldoze through trainers with them.

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** Snom in the Viridian Forest, Buneary on Route 3 and Riolu in the Mt. Moon Basement Floor. What do these have in common? These are ''friendship'' evolutions, meaning they can evolve incredibly early, made even easier with an in-game cheat code that provides infinite friendship-raising Pomeg Berries. Their evolutions Frosmoth, Lopunny and Lucario all come with stats that are incredibly overpowered for the early game and it's all too easy to bulldoze through trainers with them. As of Version 4.1 Riolu has been nerfed to evolve at a fixed level of 30 rather than friendship, preventing you from acquiring Lucario before beating Misty, though Frosmoth and Lopunny remain untouched.
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** Getting a Nincada grants you both Shedinja and Ninjask, the latter guarantees an Erika victory. Two Swords Dances against her lead Rillaboom ensures Dual Wingbeat KOs everything on the team, even the Meganium that can boost it's Defence and the Mega Venusaur.

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** Getting a Nincada grants you both Shedinja and Ninjask, Ninjask; the latter guarantees an Erika victory. Two Swords Dances against her lead Rillaboom ensures Dual Wingbeat KOs [=KO=]s everything on the team, even the Meganium that can boost it's Defence its Defense, and her ace, the Mega Venusaur.
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**Getting a Nincada grants you both Shedinja and Ninjask, the latter guarantees an Erika victory. Two Swords Dances against her lead Rillaboom ensures Dual Wingbeat KOs everything on the team, even the Meganium that can boost it's Defence and the Mega Venusaur.
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* NintendoHard: This game's difficulty is brutal, and will demand that you strategize and min-max your Pokémon's stats or you will lose. Each boss fight is essentially a competitive battle, and the AI is improved to be more of a challenge. Version 2.3 introduced Hardcore mode, which introduces even ''[[HarderThanHard harder]]'' bosses, while also restricting the player from using certain moves like stat boosting moves, weather, and some status moves.

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* CheeseStrategy: Prior to Version 4.0's nerfing, the Totem Alolan Marowak fight in Lavender Tower can easily be cheesed if you catch a Qwilfish with the [[ActionInitiative Prankster ability]], make sure it knows [[TakingYouWithMe Destiny Bond]], and then use it to win the battle without much of a struggle.

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Prior to Version 4.0's nerfing, the Totem Alolan Marowak fight in Lavender Tower can easily be cheesed if you catch a Qwilfish with the [[ActionInitiative Prankster ability]], make sure it knows [[TakingYouWithMe Destiny Bond]], and then use it to win the battle without much of a struggle.
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** In general, any mon with Counter, Metal Burst, or Mirror Coat can serve as this, especially if they have a Focus Sash or Sturdy. A lot of enemy mons in the E4, such as Bruno's infamous Zacian-Crowned, are very difficult to face in a head-on fight and can instead be dealt with more reliably with a mon that has Focus Sash or Sturdy to survive an incredibly devastating hit, followed by the appropriate counter move to destroy their opponent with their own strength. This is an especially common strategy in monotypes and hardcore mode.
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** Mega Sceptile received lots of love in ''Radical Red''. For [[AccidentalPun starters]], it got a boost to its Attack at the cost of its Special Attack, already making it stronger since it has more good physical moves than special. However, ''RR'' gave it an even bigger blessing in the form of Technician, as well as plenty of good moves to take advantage of it. The biggest example of this is Scale Shot, which gets an immense power boost from Technician by virtue of being a multi-hit move ''and'' boosts Mega Sceptile's already high speed to insane levels. To top it all of, Sceptile and its Mega Stone are quite easy to get. You can either pick Treecko as your starter in the beginning of the game or receive one from Brendan in Silph Co., shortly before you get the Mega Ring. Similarly, the Sceptilite can be obtained by showing a scientist on Route 16 your own Sceptile.

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** Mega Sceptile received lots of love in ''Radical Red''. For [[AccidentalPun starters]], it got a boost to its Attack at the cost of its Special Attack, already making it stronger since it has more good physical moves than special. However, ''RR'' gave it an even bigger blessing in the form of Technician, as well as plenty of good moves to take advantage of it. The biggest example of this is Scale Shot, which gets an immense power boost from Technician by virtue of being a multi-hit move ''and'' boosts Mega Sceptile's already high speed to insane levels. To top it all of, Sceptile and its Mega Stone are quite easy to get. You can either pick Treecko as your starter in the beginning of the game or receive one from Brendan in Silph Co., shortly before you get the Mega Ring. Similarly, the Sceptilite can be obtained by showing a scientist on Route 16 your own Sceptile. As of V4.0, the Hoenn Starters can no longer get their Mega Stones via the route 16 scientist- Now, the Swampertite is locked behind the Mudkip kid in Saffron, the Blazikenite is obtained from May at Cinnabar Island, and Sceptile was hit the hardest by this, with the Sceptilite only being given to you after the final Brendan fight, i.e. right before entering Victory Road.

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** Qwilfish had Destiny Bond and Prankster, and [[OutsideTheBoxTactic there's nothing stopping you]] from bringing a low leveled Qwilfish to boss fights to ensure that the opponents will always go for an offense move to knock Qwilfish out, rather than setting up hazards. Especially notable in Hardcore mode where you pretty much can't stop hazards from being set up because of the inaccessibility of moves like Taunt or Defog, or straight up preventing you from removing hazards anyway.
*** This is no longer possible due to the nerfs in 4.0.

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** Qwilfish had Destiny Bond and Prankster, and [[OutsideTheBoxTactic there's nothing stopping you]] from bringing a low leveled Qwilfish to boss fights to ensure that the opponents will always go for an offense move to knock Qwilfish out, rather than setting up hazards. Especially notable in Hardcore mode where you pretty much can't stop hazards from being set up because of the inaccessibility of moves like Taunt or Defog, or straight up preventing you from removing hazards anyway. \n*** This is no longer possible due to the nerfs in 4.0.0, however.

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** Qwilfish has Destiny Bond and Prankster, and [[OutsideTheBoxTactic there's nothing stopping you]] from bringing a low leveled Qwilfish to boss fights to ensure that the opponents will always go for an offense move to knock Qwilfish out, rather than setting up hazards. Especially notable in Hardcore mode where you pretty much can't stop hazards from being set up because of the inaccessibility of moves like Taunt or Defog, or straight up preventing you from removing hazards anyway.

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** Qwilfish has had Destiny Bond and Prankster, and [[OutsideTheBoxTactic there's nothing stopping you]] from bringing a low leveled Qwilfish to boss fights to ensure that the opponents will always go for an offense move to knock Qwilfish out, rather than setting up hazards. Especially notable in Hardcore mode where you pretty much can't stop hazards from being set up because of the inaccessibility of moves like Taunt or Defog, or straight up preventing you from removing hazards anyway.
*** This is no longer possible due to the nerfs in 4.0.
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* CheeseStrategy: Prior to Version 4.0, the Totem Alolan Marowak fight in Lavender Tower can easily be cheesed if you catch a Qwilfish with the [[ActionInitiative Prankster ability]], make sure it knows [[TakingYouWithMe Destiny Bond]], and then use it to win the battle without much of a struggle.

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* CheeseStrategy: Prior to Version 4.0, 0's nerfing, the Totem Alolan Marowak fight in Lavender Tower can easily be cheesed if you catch a Qwilfish with the [[ActionInitiative Prankster ability]], make sure it knows [[TakingYouWithMe Destiny Bond]], and then use it to win the battle without much of a struggle.
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* CheeseStrategy: Prior to Version 4.0, the Totem Alolan Marowak fight in Lavender Tower can easily be cheesed if you catch a Qwilfish with the [[ActionInitiative Prankster ability]], make sure it knows [[TakingYouWithMe Destiny Bond]], and then use it to win the battle without much of a struggle.
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* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/PokemonUnbound'', though most of the hatred comes from the ''Unbound'' side, as fans of that hack view ''Radical Red'' as an unpolished, unnecessarily-frustrating game. This did lessen somewhat with the release of 2.3, which saw the introduction of an Easy Mode and a Minimal Grinding mode, but not much.

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