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* HarsherInHindsight: Shudo wanted to end the anime in a DownerEnding in which Pokemon would rebel against humanity, with Pikachu as the rebellion's leader and Team Rocket's Meowth as an ambassador/translator, and Ash realizing his dream of being a Pokemon Master is a naught but a dream, and he has to wake up. [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite N and Team Plasma]] would ''definitely'' support such a rebellion.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Shudo wanted to end the anime in a DownerEnding in which Pokemon would rebel against humanity, with Pikachu as the rebellion's leader and Team Rocket's Meowth as an ambassador/translator, and Ash realizing his dream of being a Pokemon Pokémon Master is a naught but a dream, and he has to wake up. [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite N and Team Plasma]] would ''definitely'' support such a rebellion.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Shudo wanted to end the anime in a DownerEnding in which Pokemon would rebel against humanity, with Pikachu as the rebellion's leader and Team Rocket's Meowth as an ambassador/translator, and Ash realizing his dream of being a Pokemon Master is a naught but a dream, and he has to wake up. [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite N]] would ''definitely'' support such a rebellion.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Shudo wanted to end the anime in a DownerEnding in which Pokemon would rebel against humanity, with Pikachu as the rebellion's leader and Team Rocket's Meowth as an ambassador/translator, and Ash realizing his dream of being a Pokemon Master is a naught but a dream, and he has to wake up. [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite N]] N and Team Plasma]] would ''definitely'' support such a rebellion.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Shudo wanted to end the anime in a DownerEnding in which Pokemon would rebel against humanity, with Pikachu as the rebellion's leader and Team Rocket's Meowth as an ambassador/translator, and Ash realizing his dream of being a Pokemon Master is a naught but a dream, and he has to wake up. [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite N]] would ''definitely'' support such a rebellion.

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* AngstAversion: Despite being written by Takeshi Shudo (whom many fans agree [[MyRealDaddy was the only top creative mind who wanted to do more]] than plug merchandise with [[StrictlyFormula an episodic formula]]), seeing his DarkerAndEdgier interpretation of the ''Pokémon'' world (in which, for example, Gym Leaders are disqualified for losing four times in a row and as such bribe challengers to lose for large amounts of money) can be rather off-putting for some, even those who enjoy the episodes and movies he wrote.



* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Despite being written by Takeshi Shudo (whom many fans agree [[MyRealDaddy was the only top creative mind who wanted to do more]] than plug merchandise with [[StrictlyFormula an episodic formula]]), seeing his DarkerAndEdgier interpretation of the ''Pokémon'' world (in which, for example, Gym Leaders are disqualified for losing four times in a row and as such bribe challengers to lose for large amounts of money) can be rather off-putting for some, even those who enjoy the episodes and movies he wrote.

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* FanficFuel: The books are considered an AlternateContinuity by most fans for a couple of reasons (tone, anime info conflicting with the info within, etc.) however it's still used as a source of ideas, especially concerning works that mention Ash's father, the family history of Delia and the Oak family, what Pallet Town is like, Ash's childhood, history of Pallet Town, and the state of the world at large.
* HilariousInHindsight: There's a passage where a character, implied to be Professor Oak, waxes poetic about what might happen if various inanimate objects turned out to have Pokémon versions of themselves. Many of these examples now are actual Pokémon. The examples given are fighter jets (Latias and Latios, the Dragapult line), tanks and pistols (tenuously the Octillery line), swords (the Aegislash line), and dolls (Banette).

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* FanficFuel: The books are considered an AlternateContinuity by most fans for a couple of reasons (tone, anime info conflicting with the info within, etc.) however it's still used as a source of ideas, ideas for fanfics seeking to expand on the series lore, especially concerning for works that mention or focus on Ash's father, the family history of Delia and the Oak family, what Pallet Town is like, Ash's childhood, history of Pallet Town, and the state of the world at large.
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There's a passage where a character, implied to be Professor Oak, waxes poetic about what might happen if various inanimate objects turned out to have Pokémon versions of themselves. Many of these examples now are actual Pokémon. The examples given are fighter jets (Latias and Latios, the Dragapult line), tanks and pistols (tenuously the Octillery line), swords (the Aegislash line), and dolls (Banette).
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** One passage had Delia describe something similar to the [[Anime/PokemonJourneys World Coronation Series]], including mention of a Master Class.

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** One passage had Delia describe something similar to the [[Anime/PokemonJourneys [[Anime/PokemonJourneysTheSeries World Coronation Series]], including mention of a Master Class.
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* HilariousInHindsight: There's a passage where a character, implied to be Professor Oak, waxes poetic about what might happen if various inanimate objects turned out to have Pokémon versions of themselves. Many of these examples now are actual Pokémon. The examples given are fighter jets (Latias and Latios), tanks and pistols (tenuously the Octillery line), swords (the Aegislash line), and dolls (Banette).

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* HilariousInHindsight: There's a passage where a character, implied to be Professor Oak, waxes poetic about what might happen if various inanimate objects turned out to have Pokémon versions of themselves. Many of these examples now are actual Pokémon. The examples given are fighter jets (Latias and Latios), Latios, the Dragapult line), tanks and pistols (tenuously the Octillery line), swords (the Aegislash line), and dolls (Banette).
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Despite being written by Takeshi Shudo (whom many fans agree [[MyRealDaddy was the only top creative mind who wanted to do more]] than plug merchandise with [[StrictlyFormula an episodic formula]]), seeing his DarkerAndEdgier interpretation of the ''Pokémon'' world (in which, for example, Gym Leaders are disqualified for losing four times in a row and as such bribe challengers to lose for large amounts of money) can be rather off-putting for some, even those who enjoy the episodes and movies he

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Despite being written by Takeshi Shudo (whom many fans agree [[MyRealDaddy was the only top creative mind who wanted to do more]] than plug merchandise with [[StrictlyFormula an episodic formula]]), seeing his DarkerAndEdgier interpretation of the ''Pokémon'' world (in which, for example, Gym Leaders are disqualified for losing four times in a row and as such bribe challengers to lose for large amounts of money) can be rather off-putting for some, even those who enjoy the episodes and movies he wrote.

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Despite being written by Takeshi Shudo (whom many fans agree [[MyRealDaddy was the only top creative mind who wanted to do more]] than plug merchandise with [[StrictlyFormula an episodic formula]]), seeing his DarkerAndEdgier interpretation of the ''Pokémon'' world (in which, for example, Gym Leaders are disqualified for losing four times in a row and as such bribe challengers to lose for large amounts of money) can be rather off-putting for some, even those who enjoy the episodes and movies he wrote.

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Despite being written by Takeshi Shudo (whom many fans agree [[MyRealDaddy was the only top creative mind who wanted to do more]] than plug merchandise with [[StrictlyFormula an episodic formula]]), seeing his DarkerAndEdgier interpretation of the ''Pokémon'' world (in which, for example, Gym Leaders are disqualified for losing four times in a row and as such bribe challengers to lose for large amounts of money) can be rather off-putting for some, even those who enjoy the episodes and movies he wrote.he
* ValuesDissonance: Almost done to a deliberate degree. In these novels, ten years old counts as being a legal adult. They can get jobs, get arrested, even get married… it doesn’t take a genius to figure out why these elements were never incorporated into the anime.
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** One passage had Delia describe something similar to the [[Anime/PokemonJourneys World Coronation Series]], including mention of a Master Class.
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* PeripheryDemographic: Lore fans find this series, much like Manga/TheElectricTaleOfPikachu find the series interesting not for its infamous nature (in this case its dark and bleak take on the anime world) but for its expansion on elements from the anime and different takes on controversial moments in the series (for example a better take on the infamously BrokenAesop of the fourh episode is better applied in this adaption than in the anime).

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* PeripheryDemographic: Lore fans find this series, much like Manga/TheElectricTaleOfPikachu find the series interesting not for its infamous nature (in this case its dark and bleak take on the anime world) but for its expansion on elements from the anime and different takes on controversial moments in the series (for example a better take on the infamously BrokenAesop of the fourh fourth episode is better applied in this adaption than in the anime).
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Has some pretty adult themes for a kid's book, namely children being legal adults at age ten, TeenPregnancy and adultery, Pikachu dying if using all of it's electricity, to name a few examples. Of course, this is Creator/TakeshiShudo we're talking about, who wanted the anime to be just as much for adults as for kids.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Has some pretty adult themes for a kid's book, namely children being legal adults at age ten, TeenPregnancy and adultery, Pikachu dying if using all of it's its electricity, to name a few examples. Of course, this is Creator/TakeshiShudo we're talking about, who wanted the anime to be just as much for adults as for kids.
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* PeripheryDemographic: Lore fans find this series, much like Manga/TheElectricTaleOfPikachu find the series interesting not for its infamous nature (in this case its dark and bleak take on the anime world) but for its expansion on elements from the anime and different takes on controversial moments in the series (for example a better take on the infamously BrokenAesop of the fourh episode is better applied in this adaption than in the anime).

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Gym Leaders lose their job after four consecutive losses.


* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Despite being written by Takeshi Shudo (whom many fans agree [[MyRealDaddy was the only top creative mind who wanted to do more]] than plug merchandise with [[StrictlyFormula an episodic formula]]), seeing his DarkerAndEdgier interpretation of the ''Pokémon'' world (in which, for example, Gym Leaders are disqualified for losing three times and as such bribe challengers to lose for large amounts of money) can be rather off-putting for some, even those who enjoy the episodes and movies he wrote.



* HilariousInHindsight: There's a passage where a character, implied to be Professor Oak, waxes poetic about what might happen if various inanimate objects turned out to have Pokemon versions of themselves. Many of these examples now are actual Pokemon. The examples given are fighter jets (Latias and Latios), tanks and pistols (tenuously the Octillery line), swords (the Aegislash line), and dolls (Banette).

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* HilariousInHindsight: There's a passage where a character, implied to be Professor Oak, waxes poetic about what might happen if various inanimate objects turned out to have Pokemon Pokémon versions of themselves. Many of these examples now are actual Pokemon. Pokémon. The examples given are fighter jets (Latias and Latios), tanks and pistols (tenuously the Octillery line), swords (the Aegislash line), and dolls (Banette).(Banette).
* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Despite being written by Takeshi Shudo (whom many fans agree [[MyRealDaddy was the only top creative mind who wanted to do more]] than plug merchandise with [[StrictlyFormula an episodic formula]]), seeing his DarkerAndEdgier interpretation of the ''Pokémon'' world (in which, for example, Gym Leaders are disqualified for losing four times in a row and as such bribe challengers to lose for large amounts of money) can be rather off-putting for some, even those who enjoy the episodes and movies he wrote.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Has some pretty adult themes for a kid's book, namely children being legal adults at age ten, TeenPregnancy and adultery, to name a few examples. Of course, this is Creator/TakeshiShudo we're talking about, who wanted the anime to be just as much for adults as for kids.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Has some pretty adult themes for a kid's book, namely children being legal adults at age ten, TeenPregnancy and adultery, Pikachu dying if using all of it's electricity, to name a few examples. Of course, this is Creator/TakeshiShudo we're talking about, who wanted the anime to be just as much for adults as for kids.
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The Fan Translation is as the name suggests, a translation by a fan. I didn’t add new content to it willy nilly.


* HilariousInHindsight: There's a passage (at least in the FanTranslation) where a character, implied to be Professor Oak, waxes poetic about what might happen if various inanimate objects turned out to have Pokemon versions of themselves. Many of these examples now are actual Pokemon. The examples given are fighter jets (Latias and Latios), tanks and pistols (tenuously the Octillery line), swords (the Aegislash line), and dolls (Banette).

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* HilariousInHindsight: There's a passage (at least in the FanTranslation) where a character, implied to be Professor Oak, waxes poetic about what might happen if various inanimate objects turned out to have Pokemon versions of themselves. Many of these examples now are actual Pokemon. The examples given are fighter jets (Latias and Latios), tanks and pistols (tenuously the Octillery line), swords (the Aegislash line), and dolls (Banette).
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* HilariousInHindsight: There's a passage (at least in the FanTranslation) where a character, implied to be Professor Oak, waxes poetic about what might happen if various inanimate objects turned out to have Pokemon versions of themselves. Many of these examples now are actual Pokemon. The examples given are fighter jets (Latias and Latios), tanks and pistols (tenuously the Octillery line), swords (the Aegislash line), and dolls (Banette).

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* FridgeHorror: The first novel states that Misty has only ever had bad luck with men, and considering the novelization also specifies that ten-year-olds are legally considered adults, [[BrainBleach that probably doesn't mean anything good...]]
* FridgeLogic: If real animals aren't supposed to exist in the world Pokémon, then to whom is Prof. Oak differentiating Pokémon from?
** Historic records?

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* FridgeHorror: The first novel states that Misty has only ever had bad luck with men, WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Has some pretty adult themes for a kid's book, namely children being legal adults at age ten, TeenPregnancy and considering adultery, to name a few examples. Of course, this is Creator/TakeshiShudo we're talking about, who wanted the novelization also specifies that ten-year-olds are legally considered adults, [[BrainBleach that probably doesn't mean anything good...]]
* FridgeLogic: If real animals aren't supposed
anime to exist in the world Pokémon, then to whom is Prof. Oak differentiating Pokémon from?
** Historic records?
be just as much for adults as for kids.
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* FanficFuel: The books are considered an AlternateContinuity by most fans for a couple of reasons (tone, anime conflicts with the info within, etc.) however it's still used as a source of ideas, especially concerning works that mention Ash's father, the family history of Delia and the Oak family, what Pallet Town is like, Ash's childhood, history of Pallet Town, and the state of the world at large.

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* FanficFuel: The books are considered an AlternateContinuity by most fans for a couple of reasons (tone, anime conflicts info conflicting with the info within, etc.) however it's still used as a source of ideas, especially concerning works that mention Ash's father, the family history of Delia and the Oak family, what Pallet Town is like, Ash's childhood, history of Pallet Town, and the state of the world at large.
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** Historic records?
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Despite being written by Takeshi Shudo (whom many fans agree [[MyRealDaddy was the only top creative mind who wanted to do more]] than plug merchandise with [[StrictlyFormula an episodic formula]]), seeing his [[DarkerAndEdgier darker and generally]] [[BuffySpeak crapsack-ier]] interpretation of the ''Pokémon'' world (in which, for example, Gym Leaders are disqualified for losing three times and as such bribe challengers to lose for large amounts of money) can be rather off-putting for some, even those who enjoy the episodes and movies he wrote.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Despite being written by Takeshi Shudo (whom many fans agree [[MyRealDaddy was the only top creative mind who wanted to do more]] than plug merchandise with [[StrictlyFormula an episodic formula]]), seeing his [[DarkerAndEdgier darker and generally]] [[BuffySpeak crapsack-ier]] DarkerAndEdgier interpretation of the ''Pokémon'' world (in which, for example, Gym Leaders are disqualified for losing three times and as such bribe challengers to lose for large amounts of money) can be rather off-putting for some, even those who enjoy the episodes and movies he wrote.
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* FanficFuel: The books are considered an AlternateContinuity by most fans for a couple of reasons (tone, anime conflicts, with the info within, tec) however it's still used as a source of ideas, especially concerning works that mention Ash's father, the family history of Delia and the Oak family, what Pallet Town is like, Ash's childhood, history of Pallet Town, and the state of the world at large.

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* FanficFuel: The books are considered an AlternateContinuity by most fans for a couple of reasons (tone, anime conflicts, conflicts with the info within, tec) etc.) however it's still used as a source of ideas, especially concerning works that mention Ash's father, the family history of Delia and the Oak family, what Pallet Town is like, Ash's childhood, history of Pallet Town, and the state of the world at large.
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* FanficFuel: The books are considered an AlternateContinuity by most fans, however it's still used as a source of ideas, especially concerning works that mention Ash's father,

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* FanficFuel: The books are considered an AlternateContinuity by most fans, fans for a couple of reasons (tone, anime conflicts, with the info within, tec) however it's still used as a source of ideas, especially concerning works that mention Ash's father,father, the family history of Delia and the Oak family, what Pallet Town is like, Ash's childhood, history of Pallet Town, and the state of the world at large.
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* FanficFuel: The books are considered an AlternateUniverse by most fans, however it's still used as a source of ideas, especially concerning works that mention Ash's father,

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* FanficFuel: The books are considered an AlternateUniverse AlternateContinuity by most fans, however it's still used as a source of ideas, especially concerning works that mention Ash's father,
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* FanficFuel: The books are considered an AlternateUniverse by most fans, however it's still used as a source of ideas, especially concerning works that mention Ash's father,
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I feel that is more fair to the other writers past and present.


* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Despite being written by Takeshi Shudo (whom many fans agree [[MyRealDaddy was the only writer who wanted to do more]] than plug merchandise with [[StrictlyFormula an episodic formula]]), seeing his [[DarkerAndEdgier darker and generally]] [[BuffySpeak crapsack-ier]] interpretation of the ''Pokémon'' world (in which, for example, Gym Leaders are disqualified for losing three times and as such bribe challengers to lose for large amounts of money) can be rather off-putting for some, even those who enjoy the episodes and movies he wrote.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Despite being written by Takeshi Shudo (whom many fans agree [[MyRealDaddy was the only writer top creative mind who wanted to do more]] than plug merchandise with [[StrictlyFormula an episodic formula]]), seeing his [[DarkerAndEdgier darker and generally]] [[BuffySpeak crapsack-ier]] interpretation of the ''Pokémon'' world (in which, for example, Gym Leaders are disqualified for losing three times and as such bribe challengers to lose for large amounts of money) can be rather off-putting for some, even those who enjoy the episodes and movies he wrote.
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* FridgeHorror: The first novel states that Misty has only ever had bad luck with men, and considering the novelization also specifies that ten-year-olds are legally considered adults, [[BrainBleach that probably doesn't mean anything good...]]

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Despite being written by Takeshi Shudo (whom many fans agree [[MyRealDaddy was the only writer who wanted to do more]] than plug merchandise with [[StrictlyFormula an episodic formula]]), seeing his [[DarkerAndEdgier darker and generally]] [[BuffySpeak crapsack-ier]] interpretation of the Pokémon world (in which, for example, Gym Leaders are disqualified for losing three times and as such bribe challengers to lose for large amounts of money) can be rather off-putting for some, even those who enjoy the episodes and movies he wrote.

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* AngstWhatAngst: Her husband ran off, just like her father had years ago, yet Delia doesn't seem to mind. It's mentioned that she no longer loves her husband, but she hasn't divorced him and turns down suitors.
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Despite being written by Takeshi Shudo (whom many fans agree [[MyRealDaddy was the only writer who wanted to do more]] than plug merchandise with [[StrictlyFormula an episodic formula]]), seeing his [[DarkerAndEdgier darker and generally]] [[BuffySpeak crapsack-ier]] interpretation of the Pokémon ''Pokémon'' world (in which, for example, Gym Leaders are disqualified for losing three times and as such bribe challengers to lose for large amounts of money) can be rather off-putting for some, even those who enjoy the episodes and movies he wrote.
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* FridgeLogic: If real animals aren't supposed to exist in the world Pokémon, then to whom is Prof. Oak differentiating Pokémon from?
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Despite being written by Takeshi Shudo (whom many fans agree [[MyRealDaddy was the only writer who wanted to do more]] than plug merchandise with [[StrictlyFormula an episodic formula]]), seeing his [[DarkerAndEdgier darker and generally]] [[BuffySpeak crapsack-ier]] interpretation of the Pokémon world (in which, for example, Gym Leaders are disqualified for losing three times and as such bribe challengers to lose for large amounts of money) can be rather off-putting for some, even those who enjoy the episodes and movies he wrote.
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