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**Elias states that Barnes truly believes in the righteousness of America's cause in Vietnam, so [[WellIntentionedExtremist his cruelty and violence serves a purpose]], at least in his own mind. This makes him morally different from mindless psychopaths like Bunny who just like to kill and cause mayhem for its own sake.
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* MemeticMutation: The CrucifiedHeroShot is parodied to [[IncrediblyLamePun death]] in Website/{{Pixiv}}.

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* MemeticMutation: The CrucifiedHeroShot is parodied to [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} death]] in Website/{{Pixiv}}.
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: Edged out just barely by ''Film/ApocalypseNow''.
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** [[Film/WallStreet This wouldn't be the last time Charlie Sheen and John C. McGinley starred in a movie together]].
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* CatharsisFactor: Taylor executing Barnes without hesitation.
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* AwardSnub: While walking away with Best Picture and Best Director is no small accomplishment, the film was completely snubbed in the acting awards category. With Creator/TomBerenger and Creator/WillemDafoe (Who were the only actors nominated for the movie) both losing Best Supporting Actor to Creator/MichaelCaine for the much less memorable ''Film/HannahAndHerSisters''.

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* AwardSnub: While walking away with Best Picture and Best Director is no small accomplishment, the film was completely snubbed in the acting awards category. With Creator/TomBerenger and Creator/WillemDafoe (Who were the only actors nominated for the movie) both losing Best Supporting Actor to Creator/MichaelCaine for the much less memorable ''Film/HannahAndHerSisters''.
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** Creator/JohnCMcGinley later played a character who had a far more acrimonious relationship with a superior named Bob
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** When he attempts to kill Chris, there's a closeup of his eyes with [[RedEyesTakeWarning his pupils taking a dull glowing red]], showing the madness that had consumed him just before a bomb explodes behind him before he could complete the job.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: It can be argued that Barnes did care for the men in his command, but used extreme tactics to do so. All he wanted was for them all to survive, and to hell with anybody else.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: It can be argued that Barnes did care for the men in his command, but used extreme tactics to do so. All he wanted was for them all to survive, and to hell with anybody else. Dale Dye, who both portrayed Captain Harris in the movie and served as Oliver Stone's military advisor, offered another take on Barnes' character on the DVD commentary: that he was a man so broken by war that he ''became'' war, but understood that his war crimes were unforgivable and became a DeathSeeker for it, hence his (ultimately successful) attempts to goad Chris and his allies into killing him.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Just in case we didn't get the subtle subtext involved in Creator/OliverStone placing an evil sergeant and a good sergeant in charge of Taylor as the devil and angel on his shoulder, Stone has him provide a wildly anvilicious voiceover monologue at the end of the movie. "I felt like a child born of these two fathers fighting over my soul." Alternatively counts as SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Just in case we didn't get the subtle subtext involved in Creator/OliverStone placing an evil sergeant and a good sergeant in charge of Taylor as the devil and angel on his shoulder, Stone has him provide a wildly anvilicious voiceover monologue at the end of the movie. "I felt like a child born of these two fathers fighting over my soul." Alternatively counts as SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped."
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* AwardSnub: While walking away with Best Picture and Best Director is no small accomplishment, the film was completely snubbed in the acting awards category. With Creator/TomBerenger and Creator/WillemDafoe (Who were the only actors nominated for the movie) both losing Best Supporting Actor to Creator/MichaelCaine for the much less memorable ''Film/HannahAndHerSisters''.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: For some incomprehensible reason, this game got an NES adaptation. It's most famous for the first stage being an impossibly complex maze that has to be solved ''three separate ways'' in order to complete it.

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: For some incomprehensible reason, this game film got an NES adaptation. It's most famous for the first stage being an impossibly complex maze that has to be solved ''three separate ways'' in order to complete it.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: For some incomprehensible reason, this game got an NES adaptation. It's most famous for the first stage being an impossibly complex maze that has to be solved ''three separate ways'' in order to complete it.
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** Creator/TomBerenger would later mentor Creator/CharlieSheen in ''Film/MajorLeague''.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: ''Adagio for Strings'', used during and after the more intense moments in the film.

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** Barnes himself is made of Nightmare Fuel. His overall appearance is unnerving and those facial scars are the stuff of nightmares. His actions in the film make him more terrifying than the Vietcong.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Just in case we didn't get the subtle subtext involved in Stone placing an evil sergeant and a good sergeant in charge of plastic-faced Charlie Sheen's raw recruit as the devil and angel on his shoulder, Stone has Sheen provide a wildly anvilicious voiceover monologue at the end of the movie. "I felt like a child born of these two fathers fighting over my soul." Alternatively counts as SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Just in case we didn't get the subtle subtext involved in Stone Creator/OliverStone placing an evil sergeant and a good sergeant in charge of plastic-faced Charlie Sheen's raw recruit Taylor as the devil and angel on his shoulder, Stone has Sheen him provide a wildly anvilicious voiceover monologue at the end of the movie. "I felt like a child born of these two fathers fighting over my soul." Alternatively counts as SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.



* HilariousInHindsight: [[spoiler:Elias' CrucifiedHeroShot during his death scene. Creator/WillemDafoe would later star as Jesus in ''Film/TheLastTemptationOfChrist'']].
** [[Film/MajorLeague This wouldn't be the last time Tom Berenger played a mentor role to Charlie Sheen]].
** As stated in other entries the film was most definitely not backed by the Pentagon and was an anvilicious anti-war movie. Then years later Keith David would provide the voice over for Navy recruitment commercials for about a decade.

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[[spoiler:Elias' CrucifiedHeroShot during his death scene. Creator/WillemDafoe would later star as Jesus in ''Film/TheLastTemptationOfChrist'']].
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Creator/CharlieSheen in ''Film/MajorLeague''.
** As stated in other entries the film was most definitely not backed by the Pentagon and was an anvilicious anti-war movie. Then years later Keith David Creator/KeithDavid would provide the voice over for Navy recruitment commercials for about a decade.



* NightmareFuel: The village scene. Also the deleted scene where Taylor has a dream where the platoon stands in front of a Buddha statue. One by one the soldiers disappear until there's only Barnes.

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** [[ObligatoryWarCrimeScene Bunny]] is a psychopathic scumbag who quickly graduates from a particularly nasty {{jerkass}} to a full-blown monster. When he and his squad invade a Vietnamese village, Bunny happily beats a disabled teenage boy to death, before doing the same to the boy's mother. Following this, Bunny leads the gang-rape of two [[WouldHurtAChild young girls]], mocking Taylor for not joining in. By the end of the film, Bunny giddily mows down enemy soldiers with a smile on his face, proclaiming that he feels as if he's done nothing wrong and that war is true freedom, [[ForTheEvulz enabling people like him in to indulge in whatever wicked acts their hearts desire]].

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** [[ObligatoryWarCrimeScene [[AxCrazy Bunny]] is a psychopathic scumbag who quickly graduates from a particularly nasty {{jerkass}} to a full-blown monster. When he and his squad invade a Vietnamese village, Bunny happily beats a disabled teenage boy to death, before doing the same to the boy's mother. Following this, Bunny leads the gang-rape of two [[WouldHurtAChild young girls]], mocking Taylor for not joining in. By the end of the film, Bunny giddily mows down enemy soldiers with a smile on his face, proclaiming that he feels as if he's done nothing wrong and that war is true freedom, [[ForTheEvulz enabling people like him in to indulge in whatever wicked acts their hearts desire]].

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** [[ColonelKilgore Staff Sergeant Robert "Bob" Barnes]] is a sociopathic brute who believes himself to be the ideal that all American soldiers should strive to be. Already showing himself to be an unforgiving fanatic by [[DrillSergeantNasty regularly degrading his own troops]], even as they die all around him, Barnes shows his truly vicious personality when, while leading a raid onto a small Vietnamese village, he kills numerous villagers who are too slow in complying with his orders, before shooting an innocent woman in the head for irritating him. Holding an [[WouldHurtAChild innocent child at gunpoint]] in an attempt to force her father to answer his questions, Barnes develops a seething hatred toward [[OpposingCombatPhilosophies Sergeant Elias]] for halting his crimes, and later guns him down to eliminate the only one who would incriminate him for his murders. In the end, Barnes ruthlessly attempts to murder the only other man willing to stand up to him, [[TheProtagonist Chris Taylor]], and goads Taylor into killing him to prove his point that war and conflict is the true state of humankind.
** [[ObligatoryWarCrimeScene Bunny]] is a psychopathic scumbag who quickly graduates from a particularly [[{{Jerkass}} nasty prick]] to a full-blown monster. When he and his squad invade a Vietnamese village, Bunny happily beats a disabled teenage boy to death, before doing the same to the boy's mother. Following this, Bunny leads the gang-rape of two [[WouldHurtAChild young girls]], mocking Taylor for not joining in. By the end of the film, Bunny giddily mows down enemy soldiers with a smile on his face, proclaiming that he feels as if he's done nothing wrong and that war is true freedom, [[ForTheEvulz enabling people like him in to indulge in whatever wicked acts their hearts desire]].

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** [[ColonelKilgore Staff Sergeant Robert "Bob" Barnes]] is a sociopathic brute who believes himself to be the ideal that all American soldiers should strive to be. Already showing himself to be an unforgiving fanatic by [[DrillSergeantNasty regularly degrading his own troops]], even as they die all around him, Barnes shows his truly vicious personality when, while leading a raid onto a small Vietnamese village, he kills numerous villagers who are too slow in complying with his orders, before shooting an innocent woman in the head for irritating him. Holding an [[WouldHurtAChild innocent child at gunpoint]] in an attempt to force her father to answer his questions, Barnes develops a seething hatred toward [[OpposingCombatPhilosophies Sergeant Elias]] for halting his crimes, and later guns him down to eliminate the only one who would incriminate him for his murders. In the end, Barnes ruthlessly attempts to murder the only other man willing to stand up to him, [[TheProtagonist Chris Taylor]], Taylor, and goads Taylor into killing him to prove his point that war and conflict is the true state of humankind.
** [[ObligatoryWarCrimeScene Bunny]] is a psychopathic scumbag who quickly graduates from a particularly [[{{Jerkass}} nasty prick]] {{jerkass}} to a full-blown monster. When he and his squad invade a Vietnamese village, Bunny happily beats a disabled teenage boy to death, before doing the same to the boy's mother. Following this, Bunny leads the gang-rape of two [[WouldHurtAChild young girls]], mocking Taylor for not joining in. By the end of the film, Bunny giddily mows down enemy soldiers with a smile on his face, proclaiming that he feels as if he's done nothing wrong and that war is true freedom, [[ForTheEvulz enabling people like him in to indulge in whatever wicked acts their hearts desire]].
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* HoYay: It's only ever implied, but Taylor and Elias seem to have the potential to make quite a couple. This particularly comes out in the stoned scene, when Elias [[IndirectKiss blows smoke into Taylor's mouth]] through the [[PhallicWeapon barrel of a gun.]]
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** As stated in other entries the film was most definitely not backed by the Pentagon and was an anvilicious anti-war movie. Then years later Keith David would provide the voice over for Navy recruitment commercials for about a decade.
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* HilariousInHindsight: [[spoiler:Elias' CrucifiedHeroShot during his death scene. Creator/WillemDafoe would later star as Jesus in ''Film/TheLastTempatationOfChrist'']].

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* HilariousInHindsight: [[spoiler:Elias' CrucifiedHeroShot during his death scene. Creator/WillemDafoe would later star as Jesus in ''Film/TheLastTempatationOfChrist'']].''Film/TheLastTemptationOfChrist'']].
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** Barnes himself is made of Nightmare Fuel. His overall appearance is unnerving and those facial scars are the stuff of nightmares. His actions in the film make him more terrifying then the Vietcong.

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** Barnes himself is made of Nightmare Fuel. His overall appearance is unnerving and those facial scars are the stuff of nightmares. His actions in the film make him more terrifying then than the Vietcong.
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** [[ColonelKilgore Staff Sergeant Robert "Bob" Barnes]] is a sociopathic brute who believes himself to be the ideal that all American soldiers should strive to be. Already showing himself to be an unforgiving fanatic by [[DrillSergeantNasty regularly degrading his own troops]], even as they die all around him, Barnes shows his truly vicious personality when, while leading a raid onto a small Vietnamese village, he kills numerous villages who are too slow in complying with his orders, before shooting an innocent woman in the head for irritating him. Holding an [[WouldHurtAChild innocent child at gunpoint]] in an attempt to force her father to answer his questions, Barnes develops a seething hatred toward [[OpposingCombatPhilosophies Sergeant Elias]] for halting his crimes, and later guns him down to eliminate the only one who would incriminate him for his murders. In the end, Barnes ruthlessly attempts to murder the only other man willing to stand up to him, [[TheProtagonist Chris Taylor]], and goads Taylor into killing him to prove his point that war and conflict is the true state of humankind.

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** [[ColonelKilgore Staff Sergeant Robert "Bob" Barnes]] is a sociopathic brute who believes himself to be the ideal that all American soldiers should strive to be. Already showing himself to be an unforgiving fanatic by [[DrillSergeantNasty regularly degrading his own troops]], even as they die all around him, Barnes shows his truly vicious personality when, while leading a raid onto a small Vietnamese village, he kills numerous villages villagers who are too slow in complying with his orders, before shooting an innocent woman in the head for irritating him. Holding an [[WouldHurtAChild innocent child at gunpoint]] in an attempt to force her father to answer his questions, Barnes develops a seething hatred toward [[OpposingCombatPhilosophies Sergeant Elias]] for halting his crimes, and later guns him down to eliminate the only one who would incriminate him for his murders. In the end, Barnes ruthlessly attempts to murder the only other man willing to stand up to him, [[TheProtagonist Chris Taylor]], and goads Taylor into killing him to prove his point that war and conflict is the true state of humankind.
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** [[Film/MajorLeague This wouldn't be the last time Tom Berenger played a mentor role to Charlie Sheen]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: [[spoiler:Elias' CrucifiedHeroShot during his death scene. Creator/WillemDafoe would later star as Jesus in ''Film/TheLastTempatationOfChrist'']].

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** [[ColonelKilgore Staff Sergeant Robert "Bob" Barnes]] is a sociopathic brute who believes himself to be the ideal that all American soldiers should strive to be. Already showing himself to be an unforgiving fanatic by [[DrillSergeantNasty regularly degrading his own troops]], even as they die all around him, Barnes shows his truly vicious personality when, while leading a raid onto a small Vietnamese village, he kills numerous villages who are too slow in complying with his orders, before shooting an innocent woman in the head for irritating him. Holding an [[WouldHurtAChild innocent child at gunpoint]] in an attempt to force her father to answer his questions, Barnes develops a seething hatred toward [[OpposingCombatPhilosophies Sergeant Elias]] for halting his crimes, and later guns him down to eliminate the only one who would incriminate him for his murders. In the end, Barnes ruthlessly attempts to murder the only other man willing to stand up to him, [[TheProtagonist Chris Taylor]], and goads Taylor into killing him to prove his point that [[BloodKnight war and conflict is the true state of humankind]].

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** [[ColonelKilgore Staff Sergeant Robert "Bob" Barnes]] is a sociopathic brute who believes himself to be the ideal that all American soldiers should strive to be. Already showing himself to be an unforgiving fanatic by [[DrillSergeantNasty regularly degrading his own troops]], even as they die all around him, Barnes shows his truly vicious personality when, while leading a raid onto a small Vietnamese village, he kills numerous villages who are too slow in complying with his orders, before shooting an innocent woman in the head for irritating him. Holding an [[WouldHurtAChild innocent child at gunpoint]] in an attempt to force her father to answer his questions, Barnes develops a seething hatred toward [[OpposingCombatPhilosophies Sergeant Elias]] for halting his crimes, and later guns him down to eliminate the only one who would incriminate him for his murders. In the end, Barnes ruthlessly attempts to murder the only other man willing to stand up to him, [[TheProtagonist Chris Taylor]], and goads Taylor into killing him to prove his point that [[BloodKnight war and conflict is the true state of humankind]].humankind.

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** [[ColonelKilgore Staff Sergeant Robert "Bob" Barnes]] is a sociopathic brute who believes himself to be the ideal that all American soldiers should strive to be. Already showing himself to be an unforgiving fanatic by [[DrillSergeantNasty regularly degrading his own troops]], even as they die all around him, Barnes shows his truly vicious personality when, while leading a raid onto a small Vietnamese village, he kills numerous villages who are too slow in complying with his orders, before shooting an innocent woman in the head for irritating him. Holding an [[WouldHurtAChild innocent child at gunpoint]] in an attempt to force her father to answer his questions, Barnes develops a seething hatred toward [[OpposingCombatPhilosophies Sergeant]] [[OpposedMentors Elias]] for halting his crimes, and later guns him down to eliminate the only one who would incriminate him for his murders. In the end, Barnes ruthlessly attempts to murder the only other man willing to stand up to him, Charlie Taylor, and goads Taylor into killing him to prove his point that [[BloodKnight war and conflict is the true state of humankind]].

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** [[ColonelKilgore Staff Sergeant Robert "Bob" Barnes]] is a sociopathic brute who believes himself to be the ideal that all American soldiers should strive to be. Already showing himself to be an unforgiving fanatic by [[DrillSergeantNasty regularly degrading his own troops]], even as they die all around him, Barnes shows his truly vicious personality when, while leading a raid onto a small Vietnamese village, he kills numerous villages who are too slow in complying with his orders, before shooting an innocent woman in the head for irritating him. Holding an [[WouldHurtAChild innocent child at gunpoint]] in an attempt to force her father to answer his questions, Barnes develops a seething hatred toward [[OpposingCombatPhilosophies Sergeant]] [[OpposedMentors Sergeant Elias]] for halting his crimes, and later guns him down to eliminate the only one who would incriminate him for his murders. In the end, Barnes ruthlessly attempts to murder the only other man willing to stand up to him, Charlie Taylor, [[TheProtagonist Chris Taylor]], and goads Taylor into killing him to prove his point that [[BloodKnight war and conflict is the true state of humankind]].
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The fat soldier in the FinalBattle who appears for a few seconds before dying.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The fat fat, heavily sunburnt American soldier in the FinalBattle who appears for a few seconds before dying.

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* EpilepticTrees[=/=]EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory: Some have interpreted the Elias-like guy who asks Taylor for a light from a DeletedScene as Death himself.

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* EpilepticTrees[=/=]EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory: EpilepticTrees: Some have interpreted the Elias-like guy who asks Taylor for a light from a DeletedScene as Death himself.



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** Barnes crosses it firmly by [[spoiler: shooting the village chief's unarmed wife and taking their child hostage]].

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** Barnes crosses it firmly by [[spoiler: shooting the village chief's unarmed wife and taking their child hostage]]. If that's still rather iffy for you, then Barnes ''definitely'' crosses it one more time by [[spoiler:shooting Elias to save his own ass from court-martial.]]

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