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* BrokenBase: The timeline debates - was it an endless loop, or did history change?

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* BrokenBase: The timeline debates - was it an endless loop, or did history change?change, and which is preferable? The [[AmbiguousEnding ambiguously]] SurprisinglyHappyEnding of the fifth film is either a shocking betrayal of the brilliantly dark endings of the first three films, or the only thing that salvages the original franchise from falling victim to AngstAversion.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: It was much more successful in Britain than at home (although it took until the '90s for the series to get a network screening - in its initial run and repeats thereafter it was shown in every Creator/{{ITV}} region except STV (Scottish Television, in Central Scotland); Creator/Channel4 gave it its first UK-wide airing in the mid-90s, and both the series ''and'' the [[CompilationMovie Compilation Movies]] regularly turn up on cable TV).

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: It was much more successful in Britain than at home (although it took until the '90s UsefulNotes/TheNineties for the series to get a network screening - in its initial run and repeats thereafter it was shown in every Creator/{{ITV}} region except STV (Scottish Television, in Central Scotland); Creator/Channel4 gave it its first UK-wide airing in the mid-90s, and both the series ''and'' the [[CompilationMovie Compilation Movies]] regularly turn turned up on cable TV).

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* CompleteMonster:
** [[YMMV/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes Koba]]. See that page for details.
** ''Film/{{Planet of the Apes|2001}}: The Human War'', written by Ian Edginton: [[BigBad Minister Shiva]], the granddaughter of General Thade, seeks the [[GeneralRipper near-annihilation of humanity and all their ape supporters at any cost]]. Willing to pointlessly sacrifice the lives of her soldiers in battle, Shiva's sadism extends to having a prisoner ape tortured to death and his body crucified to lure his brother into a trap. Committing treason by trespassing into Calima, Shiva reveals her true goals to use the unfamiliar technology to undo and remake ape society [[InTheirOwnImage in her own image]], regardless of how many lives are lost in the process.
** ''Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes'' prequel comic, by Michael Moreci et al.: [[BigBad Pope]] is a brutal chimpanzee and the commander of Caesar's ape soldiers. [[MightMakesRight Believing that Caesar's rule has made the ape society weak]], Pope desires to wrest power from the Ape King through any means necessary. Subjugating a tribe of primal apes by killing their alpha, Pope forces them to undergo vicious {{training|From Hell}} to mold them into loyal soldiers with which to use to conquer Caesar's colony. Demonstrating his cruelty by having a dissenting ape tortured and fed to a polar bear, Pope proceeds to have dozens of humans and apes alike rounded up and caged with the intention of using them as slave fodder. When confronted about his inhumane treatment towards his fellow apes, Pope casually decries them as not apes, but mere "dumb animals".

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* CompleteMonster:
** [[YMMV/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes Koba]].
CompleteMonster: See that page for details.
** ''Film/{{Planet of the Apes|2001}}: The Human War'', written by Ian Edginton: [[BigBad Minister Shiva]], the granddaughter of General Thade, seeks the [[GeneralRipper near-annihilation of humanity and all their ape supporters at any cost]]. Willing to pointlessly sacrifice the lives of her soldiers in battle, Shiva's sadism extends to having a prisoner ape tortured to death and his body crucified to lure his brother into a trap. Committing treason by trespassing into Calima, Shiva reveals her true goals to use the unfamiliar technology to undo and remake ape society [[InTheirOwnImage in her own image]], regardless of how many lives are lost in the process.
** ''Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes'' prequel comic, by Michael Moreci et al.: [[BigBad Pope]] is a brutal chimpanzee and the commander of Caesar's ape soldiers. [[MightMakesRight Believing that Caesar's rule has made the ape society weak]], Pope desires to wrest power from the Ape King through any means necessary. Subjugating a tribe of primal apes by killing their alpha, Pope forces them to undergo vicious {{training|From Hell}} to mold them into loyal soldiers with which to use to conquer Caesar's colony. Demonstrating his cruelty by having a dissenting ape tortured and fed to a polar bear, Pope proceeds to have dozens of humans and apes alike rounded up and caged with the intention of using them as slave fodder. When confronted about his inhumane treatment towards his fellow apes, Pope casually decries them as not apes, but mere "dumb animals".
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* {{Anvilicious}}: The television show. Each episode has a moral of the week, although SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: The reboot movies are far more bleaker that the originals and and have gotten the most praise.

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* TrueArtIsAngsty: The reboot movies are far more bleaker that the originals and and have gotten the most praise.
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* AdaptationDisplacement: Few people (at least outside of France, and even then) are aware that the film was an adaptation at all.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: Few people (at least outside of France, and even then) are aware that the first film was an adaptation at all.
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* AdaptationDisplacement: The original book by Pierre Boulle.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: The original book by Pierre Boulle.
Few people (at least outside of France, and even then) are aware that the film was an adaptation at all.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Creator/RicardoMontalban's character in the third and fourth films.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Creator/RicardoMontalban's character Armando in the third and fourth films.

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** ''Film/{{Planet of the Apes|2001}}: The Human War'', written by Ian Edginton: [[BigBad Minister Shiva]], the granddaughter of General Thade, seeks the [[GeneralRipper near-annihilation of humanity and all their ape supporters at any cost]]. Willing to pointlessly sacrifice the lives of her soldiers in battle, Shiva's sadism extends to having a prisoner ape tortured to death and his body crucified to lure his brother into a trap. Committing treason by trespassing into Calima, Shiva reveals her true goals to use the unfamiliar technology to undo and remake ape society [[InTheirOwnImage in her own image]], regardless of how many lives are lost in the process.



** ''Film/PlanetOfTheApes2001: The Human War'', written by Ian Edginton: [[BigBad Minister Shiva]], the granddaughter of General Thade, seeks the [[GeneralRipper near-annihilation of humanity and all their ape supporters at any cost]]. Willing to pointlessly sacrifice the lives of her soldiers in battle, Shiva's sadism extends to having a prisoner ape tortured to death and his body crucified to lure his brother into a trap. Committing treason by trespassing into Calima, Shiva reveals her true goals to use the unfamiliar technology to undo and remake ape society [[InTheirOwnImage in her own image]], regardless of how many lives are lost in the process.

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** ''Planet of the Apes: The Human War'', written by Ian Edginton: [[BigBad Minister Shiva]], the granddaughter of General Thade, seeks the [[GeneralRipper near-annihilation of humanity and all their ape supporters at any cost]]. Willing to pointlessly sacrifice the lives of her soldiers in battle, Shiva's sadism extends to having a prisoner ape tortured to death and his body crucified to lure his brother into a trap. Committing treason by trespassing into Calima, Shiva reveals her true goals to use the unfamiliar technology to undo and remake ape society [[InTheirOwnImage in her own image]], regardless of how many lives are lost in the process.

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** ''Planet of the Apes: ''Film/PlanetOfTheApes2001: The Human War'', written by Ian Edginton: [[BigBad Minister Shiva]], the granddaughter of General Thade, seeks the [[GeneralRipper near-annihilation of humanity and all their ape supporters at any cost]]. Willing to pointlessly sacrifice the lives of her soldiers in battle, Shiva's sadism extends to having a prisoner ape tortured to death and his body crucified to lure his brother into a trap. Committing treason by trespassing into Calima, Shiva reveals her true goals to use the unfamiliar technology to undo and remake ape society [[InTheirOwnImage in her own image]], regardless of how many lives are lost in the process.
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** ''Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes'' prequel comic, by Michael Moreci et al.: [[BigBad Pope]] is a brutal chimpanzee and the commander of Caesar's ape soldiers. [[MightMakesRight Believing that Caesar's rule has made the ape society weak]], Pope desires to wrest power from the Ape King through any means necessary. Subjugating a tribe of primal apes by killing their alpha, Pope forces them to undergo vicious {{training|From Hell}} to mold them into loyal soldiers with which to use to conquer Caesar's colony. Demonstrating his cruelty by having a dissenting ape tortured and fed to a polar bear, Pope proceeds to have dozens of humans and apes alike rounded up and caged with the intention of using them as slave fodder. When confronted on his inhumane treatment towards his fellow apes, Pope casually decries them as not apes, but mere "dumb animals".

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** ''Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes'' prequel comic, by Michael Moreci et al.: [[BigBad Pope]] is a brutal chimpanzee and the commander of Caesar's ape soldiers. [[MightMakesRight Believing that Caesar's rule has made the ape society weak]], Pope desires to wrest power from the Ape King through any means necessary. Subjugating a tribe of primal apes by killing their alpha, Pope forces them to undergo vicious {{training|From Hell}} to mold them into loyal soldiers with which to use to conquer Caesar's colony. Demonstrating his cruelty by having a dissenting ape tortured and fed to a polar bear, Pope proceeds to have dozens of humans and apes alike rounded up and caged with the intention of using them as slave fodder. When confronted on about his inhumane treatment towards his fellow apes, Pope casually decries them as not apes, but mere "dumb animals".

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* CompleteMonster: [[YMMV/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes Koba]]. See that page for details.

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[[YMMV/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes Koba]]. See that page for details.details.
** ''Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes'' prequel comic, by Michael Moreci et al.: [[BigBad Pope]] is a brutal chimpanzee and the commander of Caesar's ape soldiers. [[MightMakesRight Believing that Caesar's rule has made the ape society weak]], Pope desires to wrest power from the Ape King through any means necessary. Subjugating a tribe of primal apes by killing their alpha, Pope forces them to undergo vicious {{training|From Hell}} to mold them into loyal soldiers with which to use to conquer Caesar's colony. Demonstrating his cruelty by having a dissenting ape tortured and fed to a polar bear, Pope proceeds to have dozens of humans and apes alike rounded up and caged with the intention of using them as slave fodder. When confronted on his inhumane treatment towards his fellow apes, Pope casually decries them as not apes, but mere "dumb animals".
** ''Planet of the Apes: The Human War'', written by Ian Edginton: [[BigBad Minister Shiva]], the granddaughter of General Thade, seeks the [[GeneralRipper near-annihilation of humanity and all their ape supporters at any cost]]. Willing to pointlessly sacrifice the lives of her soldiers in battle, Shiva's sadism extends to having a prisoner ape tortured to death and his body crucified to lure his brother into a trap. Committing treason by trespassing into Calima, Shiva reveals her true goals to use the unfamiliar technology to undo and remake ape society [[InTheirOwnImage in her own image]], regardless of how many lives are lost in the process.

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* ValuesDissonance: In-universe example in the TV series. In "The Gladiators", Burke refuses to kill Tolar after he defeats him in the ring. Tolar is ''furious.''
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* SpecialEffectsFailure:
** In "The Good Seeds", when the chimpanzee Anto grabs a chicken, the actor Geoffrey Deuel's very human forearms can be seen.
** The blackened teeth of the actors playing apes can often be seen behind their prosthetics.
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** Michael Conrad played Janor in "The Tyrant".
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** David Naughton, the younger brother of the series' star James Naughton, played Dr. Stole in "The Surgeon".

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** David Naughton, the James Naughton's younger brother of the series' star James Naughton, David Naughton played Dr. Stole in "The Surgeon".



* ValuesDissonance: In-universe example in the TV series. In "The Gladiators," Burke refuses to kill Tolar after he defeats him in the ring. Tolar is ''furious.''

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* ValuesDissonance: In-universe example in the TV series. In "The Gladiators," Gladiators", Burke refuses to kill Tolar after he defeats him in the ring. Tolar is ''furious.''
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** David Naughton, the younger brother of the series' star James Naughton, played Dr. Stole in "The Surgeon".
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** Creator/JackieEarlHaley played Kraik in "The Legacy".

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** Creator/JackieEarlHaley Creator/JackieEarleHaley played Kraik in "The Legacy".
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* RetroactiveRecognition:
** Marc Singer played Dalton in "The Gladiators".
** Creator/JackieEarlHaley played Kraik in "The Legacy".
** Sondra Locke played Amy in "The Cure".
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* CompleteMonster: [[YMMV/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes Koba]]. See that page for details.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: Until ''Dawn'', no sequel had nearly as warm a reception as the original (''Escape'' coming the closest), with ''Battle'' at the bottom.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: Until ''Dawn'', no sequel had nearly as warm a reception as the original (''Escape'' (''Rise'' coming the closest), with ''Battle'' at the bottom.
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** "Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape!"
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Many deny that the sequels and/or remake exist. The reboot prequel series mostly managed to avert this, with ''Dawn'' and ''War'' in particular being seen as the only film to rival the original.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: Many deny that the sequels and/or remake exist. The reboot prequel series mostly managed to avert this, with ''Dawn'' and ''War'' in particular being seen as the only film films to rival the original.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Many deny that the sequels and/or remake exist. The reboot prequel series mostly managed to avert this, with ''Dawn'' in particular being seen as the only film to rival the original.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: Many deny that the sequels and/or remake exist. The reboot prequel series mostly managed to avert this, with ''Dawn'' and ''War'' in particular being seen as the only film to rival the original.
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* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMe Koba]] is a [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenophobic ape of the highest order]]. Initially loyal to Caesar, Koba is disgusted with the fact that Caesar would bring humans into their territory. After being told off by Caesar for the last time, Koba decides to betray his leader and take matters into his own hands. Displaying his callousness by murdering two helpless guards, Koba raids the armory of the human city, [[spoiler:returning to shoot Caesar and burn down his former home. Pinning the blame on the humans,]] Koba rallies the misguided apes into attacking San Francisco, slaughtering dozens of innocents. He doesn't tolerate being compared to Caesar: he demonstrates this by [[spoiler:[[KickTheDog cruelly tossing the young Ash to his death]]]] when he refuses to kill defenseless people in Caesar's name. Upon [[TyrantTakesTheHelm taking over the city]], Koba imposes his rule on both humans and apes alike, trapping the humans in cages, imprisoning the apes still loyal to Caesar in chains, and turning the rest into fanatically loyal soldiers who are still under the impression Caesar is dead. When finally confronted by Caesar, Koba tries to savagely beat him to death with a metal bar, proclaiming that he is the stronger ape. When defeated, [[VillainousBreakdown Koba snaps and starts gunning down his former comrades, even as Caesar is trying to help them]]. Even though Koba had an [[FreudianExcuse excuse]] in the form of [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil science-related torture]], Koba was far from the only ape to have been tortured, and yet none of the others turned out evil. [[spoiler:Caesar ultimately decides it's perfectly reasonable to drop the traitorous [[SeldomSeenSpecies bonobo]] to his death, stating that he is [[NoTrueScotsman "not ape."]]]] [[ItsAllAboutMe Selfish]] and brutal, Koba perfectly represented the savagery found in both humans and apes alike.
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* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMe Koba]] is a [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenophobic ape of the highest order]]. Initially loyal to Caesar, Koba is disgusted with the fact that Caesar would bring humans into their territory. After being told off by Caesar for the last time, Koba decides to betray his leader and take matters into his own hands. Displaying his callousness by murdering two helpless guards, Koba raids the armory of the human city, [[spoiler:returning to shoot Caesar and burn down his former home. Pinning the blame on the humans,]] Koba rallies the misguided apes into attacking San Francisco, slaughtering dozens of innocents. He doesn't tolerate being compared to Caesar: he demonstrates this by [[spoiler:[[KickTheDog cruelly tossing the young Ash to his death]]]] when he refuses to kill defenseless people in Caesar's name. Upon [[TyrantTakesTheHelm taking over the city]], Koba imposes his rule on both humans and apes alike, trapping the humans in cages, imprisoning the apes still loyal to Caesar in chains, and turning the rest into fanatically loyal soldiers who are still under the impression Caesar is dead. When finally confronted by Caesar, Koba tries to savagely beat him to death with a metal bar, proclaiming that he is the stronger ape. When defeated, [[VillainousBreakdown Koba snaps and starts gunning down his former comrades, even as Caesar is trying to help them]]. Even though Koba had an [[FreudianExcuse excuse]] in the form of [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil science-related torture]], Koba was far from the only ape to have been tortured, and yet none of the others turned out evil. [[spoiler:Caesar ultimately decides it's perfectly reasonable to drop the traitorous [[SeldomSeenSpecies bonobo]] to his death, stating that he is [[NoTrueScotsman "not ape."]]]] [[ItsAllAboutMe Selfish]] and brutal, Koba perfectly represented the savagery found in both humans and apes alike.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: It was much more successful in Britain than at home (although it took until the '90s for the series to get a network screening - in its initial run and repeats thereafter it was shown in every {{ITV}} region except STV (Scottish Television, in Central Scotland); Creator/Channel4 gave it its first UK-wide airing in the mid-90s, and both the series ''and'' the [[CompilationMovie Compilation Movies]] regularly turn up on cable TV).

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: It was much more successful in Britain than at home (although it took until the '90s for the series to get a network screening - in its initial run and repeats thereafter it was shown in every {{ITV}} Creator/{{ITV}} region except STV (Scottish Television, in Central Scotland); Creator/Channel4 gave it its first UK-wide airing in the mid-90s, and both the series ''and'' the [[CompilationMovie Compilation Movies]] regularly turn up on cable TV).
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: The reboot movies are far more bleaker that the originals and and have gotten the most praise.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Creator/RicardoMontalban's character in the third and fifth films.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Creator/RicardoMontalban's character in the third and fifth fourth films.
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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Ricardo Montalban's character in the third and fifth films.

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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Ricardo Montalban's EnsembleDarkhorse: Creator/RicardoMontalban's character in the third and fifth films.

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