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* ContestedSequel: The remake. The original sequels too, to an extent.
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* ContinuityError: Famously, the year of the "present" in ''Beneath'' is given as roughly 20 years earlier than the year that was declared the "present" when Taylor landed in the original movie. And then ''Escape'' uses the same date for Taylor & Brent's doomed expeditions given in ''Beneath''.
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* FridgeLogic: Nothing explains how the horses came to the planet in the 2001 remake.
** Or, for that matter, how the ape population grew as large as it did when there are relatively few apes [[spoiler: on Leo's ship.]]
*** It's implied [[spoiler:from the ship's log that the surviving scientists used genetic manipulation to make the apes what they became in the film. It's possible they increased the breeding process as well]].
** Original Movie: The chronometer showing Earth time is still working after the rest of the ship's power fails (in plot terms, Taylor has to see it immediately before he leaves the ship).
** Escape from the Planet of the Apes: The humans learn that in the future, apes will talk and treat humans like animals. So they want to prevent Cornelius and Zira from having descendants as their descendants would probably be talking apes. [[ItWasHisSled They fail]]. But does this mean that Cornelius and Zira are their own ancestors?
** No, because the origin story they told (of an ape slave who one day said to humans what had been said to him a thousand times over - "no") is different from what came to be after they traveled back in time - their son Milo/Caesar became the [[MessianicArchetype savior of the apes]] instead.
** Probably not. Other chimps evolve by the time of the next film, after all.
** And their son, Milo [[spoiler:who becomes Caesar in that next film]] [[spoiler:loses his son by the time of the fifth and final Ape movie. It doesn't say he and his wife had more children.]]
** Or, for that matter, how the ape population grew as large as it did when there are relatively few apes [[spoiler: on Leo's ship.]]
*** It's implied [[spoiler:from the ship's log that the surviving scientists used genetic manipulation to make the apes what they became in the film. It's possible they increased the breeding process as well]].
** Original Movie: The chronometer showing Earth time is still working after the rest of the ship's power fails (in plot terms, Taylor has to see it immediately before he leaves the ship).
** Escape from the Planet of the Apes: The humans learn that in the future, apes will talk and treat humans like animals. So they want to prevent Cornelius and Zira from having descendants as their descendants would probably be talking apes. [[ItWasHisSled They fail]]. But does this mean that Cornelius and Zira are their own ancestors?
** No, because the origin story they told (of an ape slave who one day said to humans what had been said to him a thousand times over - "no") is different from what came to be after they traveled back in time - their son Milo/Caesar became the [[MessianicArchetype savior of the apes]] instead.
** Probably not. Other chimps evolve by the time of the next film, after all.
** And their son, Milo [[spoiler:who becomes Caesar in that next film]] [[spoiler:loses his son by the time of the fifth and final Ape movie. It doesn't say he and his wife had more children.]]
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* FridgeLogic: FridgeLogic:
** ''Planet of the Apes 2001'': Nothing explains how the horses came to the planet in the 2001 remake.
** *** Or, for that matter, how the ape population grew as large as it did when there are relatively few apes [[spoiler: on Leo's ship.]]
*** It's]] However, it's implied [[spoiler:from the ship's log that the surviving scientists used genetic manipulation to make the apes what they became in the film. It's possible they increased the breeding process as well]].
**Original Movie: ''Planet Of the Apes 1978'': The chronometer showing Earth time is still working after the rest of the ship's power fails (in plot terms, Taylor has to see it immediately before he leaves the ship).
**Escape ''Escape from the Planet of the Apes: Apes'': The humans learn that in the future, apes will talk and treat humans like animals. So they want to prevent Cornelius and Zira from having descendants as their descendants would probably be talking apes. [[ItWasHisSled They fail]]. But does this mean that Cornelius and Zira are their own ancestors?
** *** No, because the origin story they told (of an ape slave who one day said to humans what had been said to him a thousand times over - "no") is different from what came to be after they traveled back in time - their son Milo/Caesar became the [[MessianicArchetype savior of the apes]] instead.
** *** Probably not. Other chimps evolve by the time of the next film, after all.
** *** And their son, Milo [[spoiler:who becomes Caesar in that next film]] [[spoiler:loses his son by the time of the fifth and final Ape movie. It doesn't say he and his wife had more children.]]
** ''Planet of the Apes 2001'': Nothing explains how the horses came to the planet in the 2001 remake.
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** Original Movie: The chronometer showing Earth time is still working after the rest of the ship's power fails (in plot terms, Taylor has to see it immediately before he leaves the ship).
** Escape from the Planet of the Apes: The humans learn that in the future, apes will talk and treat humans like animals. So they want to prevent Cornelius and Zira from having descendants as their descendants would probably be talking apes. [[ItWasHisSled They fail]]. But does this mean that Cornelius and Zira are their own ancestors?
** No, because the origin story they told (of an ape slave who one day said to humans what had been said to him a thousand times over - "no") is different from what came to be after they traveled back in time - their son Milo/Caesar became the [[MessianicArchetype savior of the apes]] instead.
** Probably not. Other chimps evolve by the time of the next film, after all.
** And their son, Milo [[spoiler:who becomes Caesar in that next film]] [[spoiler:loses his son by the time of the fifth and final Ape movie. It doesn't say he and his wife had more children.]]
*** On another point, it strains credibility (to say the least) that Dr. Milo would be able to raise Taylor's ship from the lakebed, ''refit its blown hatches'' and get it working again, just in time to escape the Earth's destruction. Of course, without that rather huge implausibility there'd be no movie, so...
** Escape from the Planet of the Apes: The humans learn that in the future, apes will talk and treat humans like animals. So they want to prevent Cornelius and Zira from having descendants as their descendants would probably be talking apes. [[ItWasHisSled They fail]]. But does this mean that Cornelius and Zira are their own ancestors?
** No, because the origin story they told (of an ape slave who one day said to humans what had been said to him a thousand times over - "no") is different from what came to be after they traveled back in time - their son Milo/Caesar became the [[MessianicArchetype savior of the apes]] instead.
** Probably not. Other chimps evolve by the time of the next film, after all.
** And their son, Milo [[spoiler:who becomes Caesar in that next film]] [[spoiler:loses his son by the time of the fifth and final Ape movie. It doesn't say he and his wife had more children.]]
*** On another point, it strains credibility (to say the least) that Dr. Milo would be able to raise Taylor's ship from the lakebed, ''refit its blown hatches'' and get it working again, just in time to escape the Earth's destruction. Of course, without that rather huge implausibility there'd be no movie, so...
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* RootingForTheEmpire: You actually want the apes to take over in ''Conquest of the Planet of the Apes''. Especially after Armando's suicide.
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** "A planet where APES evolved from MEN?!"
** "That is/is not Ape Law!"
** "That is/is not Ape Law!"
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: See the entry under AwesomeMusic/JerryGoldsmith's great score, especially the track "The Hunt".
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* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: The scene where Landon is shown to have been lobotomized.
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* InternetBackdraft: Just try saying you like the remake on an 'Apes' forum.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Roddy [=McDowall=] (Cornelius) was reluctant to take the part, because he was worried that no-one would recognize him under all that make-up. Instead, he became the only actor to appear in all the sequels and spin-offs, and (unfortunately) is all most people remember him for.
** Not entirely true. McDowell was busy during "Beneath" and except for possibly the original film footage in the beginning, he doesn't appear in the film. And I don't think he was in the 2001 remake. Definitely not the reboot, as he died.
** Not entirely true. McDowell was busy during "Beneath" and except for possibly the original film footage in the beginning, he doesn't appear in the film. And I don't think he was in the 2001 remake. Definitely not the reboot, as he died.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Roddy [=McDowall=] (Cornelius) was reluctant to take the part, because he was worried that no-one would recognize him under all that make-up. Instead, he became the only actor to appear in all the sequels sequels[[hottip:*:though only in archive footage in ''Beneath'' as he was busy]] and spin-offs, TV series, and (unfortunately) is all most people remember him for.
** Not entirely true. McDowell was busy during "Beneath" and except for possibly the original film footage in the beginning, he doesn't appear in the film. And I don't think he was in the 2001 remake. Definitely not the reboot, as he died.for.
** Not entirely true. McDowell was busy during "Beneath" and except for possibly the original film footage in the beginning, he doesn't appear in the film. And I don't think he was in the 2001 remake. Definitely not the reboot, as he died.
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** Not entirely true. McDowell was busy during "Beneath" and except for possibly the original film footage in the beginning, he doesn't appear in the film. And I don't think he was in the 2001 remake. Definitely not the reboot, as he died.
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* HellIsThatNoise: In the TV series, hoofbeats, as that can only mean that gorilla soldiers are approaching.
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* TheyJustDidntCare: The TV series was determined to exemplify this trope. We see ape surgeons wearing surgical masks, which indicates that they understand modern germ theory...except that, in "The Cure," they suddenly don't. Again, we see an ape wearing spectacles, so they must have some basic knowledge about glass-making, optics and lens grinding. Well, until Galen has suddenly never seen glass or heard of a magnifier. They've got advanced metal-working skills, but have never heard of fish nets. The list goes on.
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* LoveItOrHateIt: The 2001 remake.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: The television show. Each episode has a moral of the week, although SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.
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* ValuesDissonance: In-universe example in the TV series. In "The Gladiators," Burke refuses to kill Tolar after he defeats him in the ring. Tolar is ''furious.''
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* TearJerker: [[spoiler: Cornelius and Zira's deaths]].
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* TearJerker: [[spoiler: Cornelius and Zira's deaths]].deaths. The most likeable, ''human'' characters in the entire series]].
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** It can be argued that Taylor blew up the entire planet because of Zaius' hypocritical viewpoint that humans are violent... just as an army of apes shoot Brent.
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** It can be argued that Taylor blew up the entire planet because of Zaius' hypocritical viewpoint that humans are violent... just as [[NotSoDifferent an army of apes shoot Brent.Brent]].
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* FridgeLogic: Nothing explains how the horses came to the planet in the 2001 remake.
*** It's implied [[spoiler:from the ship's log that the surviving scientists used genetic manipulation to make the apes what they became in the film. It's possible they increased the breeding process as well]].
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* MemeticMutation: '''YOU''' '''''MANIACS!''''' '''YOU BLEW IT UP!!!'''
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Dr. Zaius's [[ScienceIsBad anti-scientific]], [[LuddWasRight technophobic]] and [[FantasticRacism anti-human]] worldview doesn't seem so crazy when Taylor uses a human-built bomb to ''blow up the entire damn planet'' at the end.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Dr. Zaius's [[ScienceIsBad anti-scientific]], [[LuddWasRight technophobic]] and [[FantasticRacism anti-human]] worldview doesn't seem so crazy when Taylor uses a human-built bomb to ''blow up the entire damn planet'' at the end.
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** Or, for that matter, how the ape population grew as large as it did when there are relatively few apes [[spoiler: on Leo's ship.]]
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* TaintedByThePreview: ''Rise of the Planet of the Apes'', even before the first trailer was released. Primarily for existing and secondarily for creating the apes with [=CGI=].
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** Actually, it seems that the POTA movies have the reverse of the StarTrekMovieCurse - the odd-numbered ones (the original, Escape, and Battle) are quite good, while the even-numbered ones (Beneath, Conquest, and the remake) kinda suck. If this pattern continues, we should look forward to the prequel coming out this year...
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* LargeHam: Charlton Heston ("''It's a '''MAAAAAAADHOOOOUSE!!!'''''") Severn Darden as Kolp.
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* AdaptationDisplacement: the original book by Pierre Boulle.
* CompleteMonster: In the remake, General Thade.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: "Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ''ape!''"
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Jerry Goldsmith's great score, especially the track "The Hunt".
* CompleteMonster: In the remake, General Thade.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: "Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ''ape!''"
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Roddy [=McDowall=] (Cornelius) was reluctant to take the part, because he was worried that no-one would recognize him under all that make-up. Instead, he became the only actor to appear in all the sequels and spin-offs, and (unfortunately) is all most people remember him for.
* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: The scene where Landon is shown to have been lobotomized.
* HilariousInHindsight: [[FranchiseZombie In spite of Heston's request...]]
* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: The scene where Landon is shown to have been lobotomized.
* HilariousInHindsight: [[FranchiseZombie In spite of Heston's request...]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: For the apes, [[spoiler: Aldo killing Cornelius is seen as this. Only Caesar seems particularly upset after Aldo dies]].
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* {{Sequelitis}}: The previous three had redeeming features, but ''Battle For the Planet of the Apes''...
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Dr. Zaius's [[ScienceIsBad anti-scientific]], [[LuddWasRight technophobic]] and [[FantasticRacism anti-human]] worldview doesn't seem so crazy when Taylor uses a human-built bomb to ''blow up the entire damn planet'' at the end.
* TearJerker: [[spoiler: Cornelius and Zira's deaths]].
* TooGoodToLast: ''Return to the Planet of the Apes''. Fourteen episodes were made, and only thirteen were aired.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: The previous three had redeeming features, but ''Battle For the Planet of the Apes''...
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Dr. Zaius's [[ScienceIsBad anti-scientific]], [[LuddWasRight technophobic]] and [[FantasticRacism anti-human]] worldview doesn't seem so crazy when Taylor uses a human-built bomb to ''blow up the entire damn planet'' at the end.
* TearJerker: [[spoiler: Cornelius and Zira's deaths]].
* TooGoodToLast: ''Return to the Planet of the Apes''. Fourteen episodes were made, and only thirteen were aired.
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** Uh...no. "Most fans" deny the ''remake'' exists. "Most fans" deny the ''last two sequels'' exist. ''Beneath'' and ''Escape'', however, are generally regarded to be on par with the original.
** Uh...no. "Most fans" deny the ''remake'' exists. "Most fans" deny the ''last two sequels'' exist. ''Beneath'' and ''Escape'', however, are generally regarded to be on par with the original.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Most fans Many deny that the sequels exist.
** Uh...no. "Most fans" deny the ''remake'' exists. "Most fans" deny the ''last two sequels'' exist. ''Beneath'' and ''Escape'', however, are generally regarded to be on par with the original.and/or remake exist.
** Uh...no. "Most fans" deny the ''remake'' exists. "Most fans" deny the ''last two sequels'' exist. ''Beneath'' and ''Escape'', however, are generally regarded to be on par with the original.
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