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* BrokenBase: Many readers were up in arms after Shirou [[spoiler:defeats and kills Lancer on his own.]] This completely shattered suspension of disbelief for many, given how it's even stated in-canon that he would lose badly to any Servant that wasn't Gilgamesh in one-on-one combat. This is especially grievous given that [[spoiler:Cú Chulainn is considered a hero among heroes on par with Heracles who easily kicked Archer's ass in the original ''Fate/stay night''.]]
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* BrokenBase: Many readers were up in arms after Shirou [[spoiler:defeats and kills Lancer on his own.]] This completely shattered suspension of disbelief for many, given how it's even stated in-canon that he would lose badly to any Servant that wasn't Gilgamesh in one-on-one combat.

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* BrokenBase: Many readers were up in arms after Shirou [[spoiler:defeats and kills Lancer on his own.]] This completely shattered suspension of disbelief for many, given how it's even stated in-canon that he would lose badly to any Servant that wasn't Gilgamesh in one-on-one combat. This is especially grievous given that [[spoiler:Cú Chulainn is considered a hero among heroes on par with Heracles who easily kicked Archer's ass in the original ''Fate/stay night''.]]
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* BrokenBase: Many readers were up in arms after Shirou [[spoiler:defeats and kills Lancer on his own.]] This completely shattered suspension of disbelief for many, given how it's even stated in-canon that he would lose badly to any Servant that wasn't Gilgamesh in one-on-one combat.
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** [[spoiler: Angra Mainyu, with Shirou dreaming about someone being mercilessly victimized and tortured as TheScapegoat. Poor shmuck was sobbing and pleading his torturers all this time, repeating he ''didn't'' want to become the embodiment of evil. As if he couldn't be more pitiful...]]

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** [[spoiler: Angra Mainyu, with Shirou dreaming about someone being mercilessly victimized and tortured as TheScapegoat. Poor shmuck was sobbing and pleading his torturers all this time, repeating he ''didn't'' want to become the embodiment of evil. As if he couldn't be more pitiful...]]]]
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The feelings of some readers once the Holy Grail War starts in earnest. While it was known from the ActionPrologue that the Fifth Holy Grail War was a ForegoneConclusion, many feel that the story was at its best when it was a SuperFic and focused on Shirou being a vigilante. Now the story seems to be barely distinguishable from the other myriad of "Shirou comes to the War more competent" fanfics, removing the originality of story that made it appealing to readers in the first place.
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* GoodBadBug: The unlikely circumstances behind [[spoiler:Saber's summoning]], given the otherwise decent foresight of [[CrazyPrepared the Grail System's dev team]]. To wit: [[spoiler:Saber answers Shirou's calling as it happens in canon, but he formed a contract with a Master-less Servant (Caster) before he could do the same with Saber, which leaves the latter without an anchor to the real world until another Master (Rin) tries to summon a Servant.]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: Taiga actually took pictures of a half-naked Shirou in an attempt to get him some girlfriends. In [[Manga/FateKaleidLinerPrismaIllya episode six of Prisma Illya 2ewi Herz]], it's revealed that Irisiviel did the same thing, though she was being her usual [[TheGadfly teasing self.]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: Taiga actually took pictures of a half-naked Shirou in an attempt to get him some girlfriends. In [[Manga/FateKaleidLinerPrismaIllya episode six of ''[[Manga/FateKaleidLinerPrismaIllya Prisma Illya 2ewi Herz]], 2wei Herz]]'', it's revealed that Irisiviel Irisviel did the same thing, though she was being her usual [[TheGadfly teasing self.]]

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* TheWoobie: Matou Sakura.

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* TheWoobie: TheWoobie:
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Matou Sakura.Sakura, as per canon.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Taiga actually took pictures of a half-naked Shirou in an attempt to get him some girlfriends. In [[Manga/FateKaleidLinerPrismaIllya episode six of Prisma Illya 2ewi Her, it's revealed that Irisiviel did the same thing.]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: Taiga actually took pictures of a half-naked Shirou in an attempt to get him some girlfriends. In [[Manga/FateKaleidLinerPrismaIllya episode six of Prisma Illya 2ewi Her, Herz]], it's revealed that Irisiviel did the same thing.]] thing, though she was being her usual [[TheGadfly teasing self.]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: Taiga actually took pictures of a half-naked Shirou in an attempt to get him some girlfriends. In [[Manga/FateKaleidLinerPrismaIllya episode six of Prisma Illya 2ewi Her, it's revealed that Irisiviel did the same thing.]]
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** [[spoiler:Kenta's father went nuts after his mother died giving birth to him, and he ends up being possessed and killing his caretaker, who loved him like she was his own mother.]]

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** [[spoiler:Kenta's father went nuts after his mother died giving birth to him, and he ends up being possessed and killing his caretaker, who loved him like she was his own mother.]]
** [[spoiler: Angra Mainyu, with Shirou dreaming about someone being mercilessly victimized and tortured as TheScapegoat. Poor shmuck was sobbing and pleading his torturers all this time, repeating he ''didn't'' want to become the embodiment of evil. As if he couldn't be more pitiful...
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** [[spoiler:Kenta's father went nuts after his mother died giving birth to him, and he ends up being possessed and killing his caretaker, who loved him like she was his own Mother.]]

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** [[spoiler:Kenta's father went nuts after his mother died giving birth to him, and he ends up being possessed and killing his caretaker, who loved him like she was his own Mother.mother.]]
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* GoodBadBug: The unlikely circumstances behind [[spoiler:Saber's summoning]], given the otherwise decent foresight of [[DevelopersForesight the Grail System's dev team]]. To wit: [[spoiler:Saber answers Shirou's calling as it happens in canon, but he formed a contract with a Master-less Servant (Caster) before he could do the same with Saber, which leaves the latter without an anchor to the real world until another Master (Rin) tries to summon a Servant.]]

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* GoodBadBug: The unlikely circumstances behind [[spoiler:Saber's summoning]], given the otherwise decent foresight of [[DevelopersForesight [[CrazyPrepared the Grail System's dev team]]. To wit: [[spoiler:Saber answers Shirou's calling as it happens in canon, but he formed a contract with a Master-less Servant (Caster) before he could do the same with Saber, which leaves the latter without an anchor to the real world until another Master (Rin) tries to summon a Servant.]]
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* GoodBadBug: The unlikely circumstances behind [[spoiler:Saber's summoning]], given the otherwise decent foresight of [[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything the Grail System's dev team]]. To wit: [[spoiler:Saber answers Shirou's calling as it happens in canon, but he formed a contract with a Master-less Servant (Caster) before he could do the same with Saber, which leaves the latter without an anchor to the real world until another Master (Rin) tries to summon a Servant.]]

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* GoodBadBug: The unlikely circumstances behind [[spoiler:Saber's summoning]], given the otherwise decent foresight of [[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything [[DevelopersForesight the Grail System's dev team]]. To wit: [[spoiler:Saber answers Shirou's calling as it happens in canon, but he formed a contract with a Master-less Servant (Caster) before he could do the same with Saber, which leaves the latter without an anchor to the real world until another Master (Rin) tries to summon a Servant.]]
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* ArcFatigue: The Misaki City Arc. Once Satsuki's story ends, the plot only gets side tracked and meanders into a murder mystery that is a boring compared to what came before it. Outside of a specific {{Reveal}} at the end of the arc, nothing actually relevant or interesting to the overall plot of the story happens. Readers might come to wish Shirou finally comes back to Fuyuki City where the rest of the cast is OutOfFocus. Even the author admitted to not being happy with how it turned out.

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* ArcFatigue: The Misaki City Arc. Once Satsuki's story ends, the plot only gets side tracked and meanders into a murder mystery that is a boring compared to what came before it. Outside of a specific {{Reveal}} at the end of the arc, nothing actually relevant or interesting to the overall plot of happens, to the story happens. Readers point readers might come to wish Shirou finally comes back to Fuyuki City where the rest of the cast is OutOfFocus. Even the author admitted to not being happy with how it turned out.
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* ArcFatigue: The Misaki City Arc. Once Satsuki's story ends, the plot only gets side tracked and meanders into a murder mystery that is a boring compared to what came before it. Outside of a specific {{Reveal}} at the end of the arc, nothing actually relevant or interesting to the overall plot of the story happens. Readers might come to wish Shirou finally comes back to Fuyuki City where the rest of the cast is OutOfFocus. Even the author admitted to not being happy with how it turned out.
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* AlasPoorVillain: Jin and Jun trying to writhe over to each other so that they may be TogetherInDeath when Caster moves in for the kill. [[TearJerker She then freezes them so they stay apart.]] [[spoiler:Luckily for them, [[BigDamnHeroes Waver manages to pull off a trope aversion.]]

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* AlasPoorVillain: Jin and Jun trying to writhe over to each other so that they may be TogetherInDeath when Caster moves in for the kill. [[TearJerker She then freezes them so they stay apart.]] [[spoiler:Luckily for them, [[BigDamnHeroes Waver manages to pull off a trope aversion.]]]]]]
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* AlasPoorVillain: Jin and Jun trying to writhe over to each other so that they may be TogetherInDeath when Caster moves in for the kill. [[TearJerker She then freezes them so they stay apart.]] [[spoiler:Luckily for them, [[BigDamnHeroes Waver arrives and convinces Caster to stand down]] so that the both of them may tend to their wounded (the mercenaries for Waver, Shirou for Caster).]]

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* AlasPoorVillain: Jin and Jun trying to writhe over to each other so that they may be TogetherInDeath when Caster moves in for the kill. [[TearJerker She then freezes them so they stay apart.]] [[spoiler:Luckily for them, [[BigDamnHeroes Waver arrives and convinces Caster manages to stand down]] so that the both of them may tend to their wounded (the mercenaries for Waver, Shirou for Caster).pull off a trope aversion.]]
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* GrowingTheBeard: The first few chapters are rougher than the rest of the story. The quality of the writing improves noticably around ''Stirring Shadows'', when the author acquires a beta-reader.

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* GrowingTheBeard: The first few chapters are rougher than the rest of the story. The quality of the writing improves noticably noticeably around ''Stirring Shadows'', when the author acquires a beta-reader.



** [[spoiler:Satsuki, as a result of her unwilling vampirification.]] It's not helped by the fact that she impulsively snuck out of her house to avoid worrying or burdening her parents, [[ATragedyOfImpulsiveness so they don't even realize she's gone.]]

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** [[spoiler:Satsuki, as a result of her unwilling vampirification.vampirism.]] It's not helped by the fact that she impulsively snuck out of her house to avoid worrying or and burdening her parents, [[ATragedyOfImpulsiveness so they don't even they'll likely never realize why or where she's gone.]]
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* GoodBadBug: The unlikely circumstances behind [[spoiler:Saber's summoning]], given the otherwise decent foresight of [[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything the Grail System's dev team]]. To wit: [[spoiler:Saber answers Shirou's calling as it happens in canon, but he formed a contract with a Master-less Servant (Caster) before he could do the same with Saber, which leaves the latter without an anchor to the real world until another Master (Rin) tries to summon a Servant.]]

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* GrowingTheBeard: The first few chapters are rougher than the rest of the story. The quality of the writing improves noticably around chapter 5 or 6, when the author acquires a beta-reader.
* TheWoobie: Sakura, naturally. Also, [[spoiler:Satsuki, as a result of her unwilling vampirification.]] Not helped by the fact that she snuck out of her house so as to not worry her parents [[ATragedyOfImpulsiveness so they don't even realize she's gone.]]

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* GrowingTheBeard: The first few chapters are rougher than the rest of the story. The quality of the writing improves noticably around chapter 5 or 6, ''Stirring Shadows'', when the author acquires a beta-reader.
* TheWoobie: Sakura, naturally. Also, Matou Sakura.
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[[spoiler:Satsuki, as a result of her unwilling vampirification.]] Not It's not helped by the fact that she impulsively snuck out of her house so as to not worry avoid worrying or burdening her parents parents, [[ATragedyOfImpulsiveness so they don't even realize she's gone.]]
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* GrowingTheBeard: The first few chapters are rougher than the rest of the story. The quality of the writing improves noticably around chapter 5 or 6, when the author acquires a beta-reader.
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** [[spoiler:Kenta's father went nuts after his mother died giving birth to him, and he ends up being possessed and killing his caretaker, who loved him like she was his own Mother.]]
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* TheWoobie: Sakura, naturally. Also, [[spoiler:Satsuki, as a result of her unwilling vampirification.]] Not helped by the fact that she snuck out of her house so as to not worry her parents [[ATragedyOfImpulsiveness so they don't even realize she's gone.]]
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* CompleteMonster: Vincent Guilford [[spoiler:the former Master of Caster]] certainly qualified.
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*AlasPoorVillain: Jin and Jun trying to writhe over to each other so that they may be TogetherInDeath when Caster moves in for the kill. [[TearJerker She then freezes them so they stay apart.]] [[spoiler:Luckily for them, [[BigDamnHeroes Waver arrives and convinces Caster to stand down]] so that the both of them may tend to their wounded (the mercenaries for Waver, Shirou for Caster).]]

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* CompleteMonster: Vincent Guilford [[spoiler:the Master of Caster]] certainly qualifies.

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* CompleteMonster: Vincent Guilford [[spoiler:the Master of Caster]] certainly qualifies.

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